Just want to thank you for sharing such a beast of a process. It is very educative and high quality material you cannot stumble randomly. Appreciate it!
Amazing David. Thanks for taking the time to create this. Coming from the process control industry it's nice to see how some of the technologies I worked on are utilized.
Reminds me of working with cold header machines to make bolts and screws. Except we were feeding the wire in, running it through the straighteners, and then hauling buckets of screws off at the end.
Manufacturer: "you said you wanted what again?" Printed Solid, Inc: "the most annoying alarm notification system you have.. you know just to let me know the machine is running properly... all the time." Manufacturer: "ok, but it's going to go off every other 30 seconds"
I worked on extruded lines with dura cables our extrudes had a scantron which automatically speeds up and slows down if the outside diameter goes out of tolerance
Would it be possible to run out of spec (larger) filament through some heated rollers to reshape the entire roll into spec? Also seems that you could thread the machine with a "string" and then attach it to the beginning extruded filament so you don't have to walk the filament through the entire machine at each startup wasting that first length with time critical threading when you could be adjusting the quality of the extrude during that time. Pretty impressive operation I must say. As for that first roll I would think you could just feed it back into the grinder/hopper at the input?
Very cool. Do you run the waste spools through a pelletizer or shredder so that it can be remelted in the extruder and recycled? It's all totally clean and containment-free after all!
Is the alarm for "the diameter/ovality is out of spec" or "you are approaching the finger crusher"? Also, what do you do with the trash filament? Like, do/can you recycle it?
@@printedsolid K. Still waiting to find a good filament recycling place for filament. Between this video and the follow up, I'm assuming there is gonna be someone full time staffing this machine.
@@printedsolid Why can't it be recycled? Every single plastic molding and extrusion process I've worked with has run 10-25% internal recycle material or "regrind." If it's a question of color, black dye covers all sins. If it's a question of Nature Works telling you not to run regrind, they are wrong. We do it all the time without issue. So do most large scale PLA processors. Eitherway, contact me @ howcanwehelp@polymerforge3D.com or poke Max Mcgrumpy on Facebook.
@@Lordoffail Recycled filament works for most people, but if you want the best properties you should never recycle filament. You should always use virgin plastic pellets. The cost savings of using regrinds is negligible on the professional scale. It is better to save them and utilize them for a lower quality run, or even just selling the scraps by weight for someone else like a hobbyist to deal with.
@@dansmith5505 we can recyle it ,equip a set of pelletizer , please contact me if you are interested.Whatsapp/Wechat:+86 18151606635 Email:sales6@njgsmach.com
Muy bien David si quisiera poner algo de esto las dos últimas máquinas y la primera con una canaleta qué precio sería también una de las que van por encima con todo lo que tienes cuánto costaría gracias un saludo
Who knew you needed so many machines to extrude filament. Love to know the cost (about) of the setup. Also why dont you recycle the filament that fell on the floor? is it contaminated?
Hello, Dear friend ,this is Wendy comes from Nanjing GS-mach Extrusion Equipment Co.Ltd.Which is a professional machinery designer and manufacturer. please contact me if you are interested.Whatsapp/Wechat:+86 18151606635 Email:sales6@njgsmach.com
We used a system like that to tension wires between a sport fencer's back and the wall at the end of the fencing strip, where the scoring machine was hooked up. It's a block and tackle arrangement where the spring tension pulls the pulleys apart to take up the filament, and then will feed it back out according to the torque on the filament spool. Tensioning is just getting the accumulator spring force in the proper ratio with the take-up spool torsion. It's a pity he didn't continue the video to show a reel being replaced. That would have shown what the accumulator's job was. It would continue to gather product while the spool was being swapped.
Hello David! I appreciate the work you've done here, thanks. We are setting up a similar business in Turkey and i don't know if you produce ABS but we have problems with the rounding of the ABS. Those tools you use in the water tank for rounding, are they also applicable for ABS? What is it how can we find it? If not too much can we have your e-mail address?
I am an extruder operator and the tools in the water tanks have ONLY one use is to old off water when the tanks fill up . The shape always have to start from the die then to keep the form you have to play with speed , cold pressure air between the die and the water tanks or you can add a die with a vacuum system in the water tanks to keeps the shape
Hello, Dear friend ,this is Wendy comes from Nanjing GS-mach Extrusion Equipment Co.Ltd.Which is a professional machinery designer and manufacturer. please contact me if you are interested.Whatsapp/Wechat:+86 18151606635 Email:sales6@njgsmach.com
hi sir i'am a mechanical engineering student why do you use 2 long tanks of water for cooling ? why you don't use 1 or air cooling ? and why the distance between them ? please i need your answer for my research
According raw material melting and forming process . some raw material need Air cooling some one need water cooling . to keep producing good tolerance filament
@@marclanglais9812 I think its celcius, because it needs to be heated. And it think it isnt heated to 65 fahrenheid (or there need to be polarbears inside)
probably some chinese people when Americans and Europeans should be manufacturing such machines for a 1/3 of the costs ONLY for domestic transactions but instead they jack up the prices on domestic products that leave us with no choice but to buy Globalist's imports since they own shares of China.
wow this process has so much waste! also so much work damn no wonder PLA costs 25$ a KG lol. can't you recycle the first spool or use it in house for non-important projects?
its nuts because hes calibrating machines that are dependant on other machines lol imagine how much waste that was initially starting it up and fiddling with everything to get the numbers right like how did he figure out the winding speed to not destroy the filament capacitor lol
shame it got cut off. That's quite a bit of waste, and quite an line. Seems like running it 24/7 makes more sense than restarting it daily. That is quite a bit of wasted plastics.
that machine looks new(ish) but why does the worker have to do so much of the process themselves qhen soany other extruders do all of it on their own 😭😭😭
Just want to thank you for sharing such a beast of a process. It is very educative and high quality material you cannot stumble randomly. Appreciate it!
Amazing David. Thanks for taking the time to create this. Coming from the process control industry it's nice to see how some of the technologies I worked on are utilized.
Amazing! Takes all that work, machinery and technical know how to keep an entire spool of filament at 1.75mm diameter!
Reminds me of working with cold header machines to make bolts and screws. Except we were feeding the wire in, running it through the straighteners, and then hauling buckets of screws off at the end.
Thanks for the vid! I work as an interpreter and your work really helped me to understand the process.
Manufacturer: "you said you wanted what again?"
Printed Solid, Inc: "the most annoying alarm notification system you have.. you know just to let me know the machine is running properly... all the time."
Manufacturer: "ok, but it's going to go off every other 30 seconds"
I worked on extruded lines with dura cables our extrudes had a scantron which automatically speeds up and slows down if the outside diameter goes out of tolerance
Would it be possible to run out of spec (larger) filament through some heated rollers to reshape the entire roll into spec? Also seems that you could thread the machine with a "string" and then attach it to the beginning extruded filament so you don't have to walk the filament through the entire machine at each startup wasting that first length with time critical threading when you could be adjusting the quality of the extrude during that time.
Pretty impressive operation I must say.
As for that first roll I would think you could just feed it back into the grinder/hopper at the input?
Giant team of one, congratulations.
Very cool. Do you run the waste spools through a pelletizer or shredder so that it can be remelted in the extruder and recycled? It's all totally clean and containment-free after all!
the buffer is really cool!
Where do you source your dies for cooling trough? Can you explain more about why you need dies etc..
Can I get to know where you purchase and assemble this set of machine? And, how much will it cost?
Is the alarm for "the diameter/ovality is out of spec" or "you are approaching the finger crusher"?
Also, what do you do with the trash filament? Like, do/can you recycle it?
@@printedsolid K. Still waiting to find a good filament recycling place for filament.
Between this video and the follow up, I'm assuming there is gonna be someone full time staffing this machine.
@@printedsolid Why can't it be recycled? Every single plastic molding and extrusion process I've worked with has run 10-25% internal recycle material or "regrind."
If it's a question of color, black dye covers all sins.
If it's a question of Nature Works telling you not to run regrind, they are wrong. We do it all the time without issue. So do most large scale PLA processors.
Eitherway, contact me @ howcanwehelp@polymerforge3D.com or poke Max Mcgrumpy on Facebook.
@@Lordoffail Recycled filament works for most people, but if you want the best properties you should never recycle filament. You should always use virgin plastic pellets. The cost savings of using regrinds is negligible on the professional scale. It is better to save them and utilize them for a lower quality run, or even just selling the scraps by weight for someone else like a hobbyist to deal with.
@@dansmith5505 we can recyle it ,equip a set of pelletizer , please contact me if you are interested.Whatsapp/Wechat:+86 18151606635 Email:sales6@njgsmach.com
Muy bien David si quisiera poner algo de esto las dos últimas máquinas y la primera con una canaleta qué precio sería también una de las que van por encima con todo lo que tienes cuánto costaría gracias un saludo
In my extrusion production (not filament), we placed a mark on the end, so we know where to look from.
Interested in buying a machine
For PLA production what is the process
Regarding materials? A 1KG of raw material gives me a 1KG of filament?
On this subject, it is attainable. Interested:
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Email: sales2@njgsmach.com
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almost,the waste of the raw material is little .
please contact me if you are interested.Whatsapp/Wechat:+86 18151606635 Email:sales6@njgsmach.com
We can produce filament machine . sales1@mq-extrusion.com
David , can u tell me the temperature setups for petg extrusion ?
Melting temp. or water temp. i can let you know
Who knew you needed so many machines to extrude filament. Love to know the cost (about) of the setup. Also why dont you recycle the filament that fell on the floor? is it contaminated?
I'm pretty sure it would be out of spec and contaminated.
Hello, Dear friend ,this is Wendy comes from Nanjing GS-mach Extrusion Equipment Co.Ltd.Which is a professional machinery designer and manufacturer. please contact me if you are interested.Whatsapp/Wechat:+86 18151606635 Email:sales6@njgsmach.com
about $30,000.00 paper fiat.
Cool vid what is the pallet grinder you are using or do you buy in pre made coloured stock ?
cant you just 3d print pellets using the out of spec filament roll?
How much does a line like this cost today?
20-30k$
3:33 can you explain more in depth what you are doing here? and what you mean by tensioning the accumulator? How does that work?
We used a system like that to tension wires between a sport fencer's back and the wall at the end of the fencing strip, where the scoring machine was hooked up. It's a block and tackle arrangement where the spring tension pulls the pulleys apart to take up the filament, and then will feed it back out according to the torque on the filament spool. Tensioning is just getting the accumulator spring force in the proper ratio with the take-up spool torsion. It's a pity he didn't continue the video to show a reel being replaced. That would have shown what the accumulator's job was. It would continue to gather product while the spool was being swapped.
How much would an hourly rate be to have someone do this for you
15-20kg per hour
Thanks. Nice video
Hello David! I appreciate the work you've done here, thanks. We are setting up a similar business in Turkey and i don't know if you produce ABS but we have problems with the rounding of the ABS. Those tools you use in the water tank for rounding, are they also applicable for ABS? What is it how can we find it? If not too much can we have your e-mail address?
I am an extruder operator and the tools in the water tanks have ONLY one use is to old off water when the tanks fill up . The shape always have to start from the die then to keep the form you have to play with speed , cold pressure air between the die and the water tanks or you can add a die with a vacuum system in the water tanks to keeps the shape
ABS and ASA are cooled first with an air table then a water table the dies are a different size if your still in need ?
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awesome video - just wondering how do you shut down the line ? is it shut down every day and start over tomorrow?
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Hello, Dear friend ,this is Wendy comes from Nanjing GS-mach Extrusion Equipment Co.Ltd.Which is a professional machinery designer and manufacturer. please contact me if you are interested.Whatsapp/Wechat:+86 18151606635 Email:sales6@njgsmach.com
have you tried extruding ultem/peek?
those seem to have a lot of profit. a huge difference between the pellet/filament
Peek has ip I believe
How much does extruder operator make?
1 worker run one production line
what dyes do you use?
hi sir i'am a mechanical engineering student why do you use 2 long tanks of water for cooling ? why you don't use 1 or air cooling ? and why the distance between them ? please i need your answer for my research
According raw material melting and forming process . some raw material need Air cooling some one need water cooling . to keep producing good tolerance filament
@@plasticextruder66 thanks for your help ❤️
Love this.
What is the temperature of water? I'm curious to know :)
The water temperature , it according the raw material ,PLA around 65 degree
@@plasticextruder66 65°F in the first water bath?
@@marclanglais9812 Yes
@@marclanglais9812 I think its celcius, because it needs to be heated. And it think it isnt heated to 65 fahrenheid (or there need to be polarbears inside)
Hello, I am producing 3D filament in Azerbaijan, but I am experiencing problems during production. Can you help me?
Hello,
I have a couple questions. what is the finished size you are producing and what are the sizes of the dies you use to keep the shape?
1.75MM-3MM, please contact me if you are interested.Whatsapp/Wechat:+86 18151606635 Email:sales6@njgsmach.com
If Rube Goldberg was a 3D printing nerd. Can I work here lol
2:00 Why having these wheels?
Wow! What is this filament extruder and where did you get it? It is beautiful.
Thank you . More information , pls contact with me .
We can produce filament machine . sales1@mq-extrusion.com
How many kilos can you produce per day?
1000KG Tel: 0086 18151621522 (wechat/whatsapp)
Email: sales2@njgsmach.com
15-25kg per hour with neat winding system
@@plasticextruder66 how much Kw does the total system use?
@@sam-cj8tf 45kw
@@plasticextruder66 is 45kw the max power usage or the average power usage?
Where did you source everything from besides the extruder?
probably some chinese people when Americans and Europeans should be manufacturing such machines for a 1/3 of the costs ONLY for domestic transactions but instead they jack up the prices on domestic products that leave us with no choice but to buy Globalist's imports since they own shares of China.
ruclips.net/channel/UCOH5sHzZtI4wiVFjNQaSQCA
I never imagined it was such a process to make a plastic string
Hi. thank you for your video. Can you please tell me why do you cool the Filament with the Water and not with the Air(For Example PC FAN)?
No wonder that creepy cheap Amazon filament snaps, crackles and pops…
Thats too much sh_t to worry about for me. But thats still Cool. You are very skilled.
wow this process has so much waste!
also so much work damn no wonder PLA costs 25$ a KG lol.
can't you recycle the first spool or use it in house for non-important projects?
Same question here.
Nice process, no room for laziness though 😅
Why water I thought filament is meant to be dehydrated.
bro i was wondering why my filament is wet
its nuts because hes calibrating machines that are dependant on other machines lol imagine how much waste that was initially starting it up and fiddling with everything to get the numbers right like how did he figure out the winding speed to not destroy the filament capacitor lol
shame it got cut off.
That's quite a bit of waste, and quite an line. Seems like running it 24/7 makes more sense than restarting it daily. That is quite a bit of wasted plastics.
Я не могу купить такую линию! Очень дорого! Делаю сам, для себя, с меньшими скоростями и не таким контролем всех процессов.
Machine from our company . pls contact with me
Show us the roundness
Very good
thank you
bang spill settingan buat hdpe bang
Grab the hot plastic with your bare hands like a real extrusion tech = P
ikr I do 350+ degree all day sometimes run high density pe which is upwards 475 degrees
I need ASA 🙂
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more like this videos
Wow
I guess it never settled in
cool stuff...
downside....
lot of made in china products..
This is the next step, even if it's not from the same recording. ruclips.net/video/yfWSnA0Y9KU/видео.html
Clean your water trays! Thank God your not making medical tubes...
Yawn….. try doing that with a 6 filament extruder head. That’s where the challenge is. And I did that 28 years ago.
Just imagine, in China there are children running these machines. Most are more skilled than this guy 😂
god you couldnt pay me enough to tolerate that alarm
that machine looks new(ish) but why does the worker have to do so much of the process themselves qhen soany other extruders do all of it on their own 😭😭😭