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I must admit the Pyle PDMIC78 sounds very good for the price; slightly less full than the SM57 (in other words, more scooped/pronounced around the 3K range), surprisingly. Many thanks for a great video!
I'm just here for a 5 year update on the Pyle's and Stagg's that I've had since before this video, and they're still holding up fine with zero issues so far (knock on wood). I've done 100's of recordings and even some live shows with them just to see how they perform and handle in real world scenario's and have had no complaints yet. Of course they don't replace my higher priced mics, but still very useable and worth the price to me. I lean towards the Pyle's more than the Stagg's, I mostly play a heavy rock and metal style of music, but either way I can't complain.
Thank you for the comparisons,I'm blown away in hearing that you somehow made them sound the same,I'm filled with joy knowing that we are capable of doing more on budget
I think the stagg sounded the best overall. The Shure lacked a bit of the high-end that the other 2 had a nice amount of, and the Pyle had a little less low mid. Ultimately, I would use the Shure on a snare drum, anyday, and the Stagg for everything else. I would not knock the Pyle at all, though. The fact that a $30 mic can hold its own against an sm57 is brilliant. It also goes to show that it's a LOT more affordable for people to get into audio production than we are lead to believe. Just this Pyle, a computer and an interface is all you need to start making great sounding music.
I'm kinda shocked at this comparison! The Shure sound's muddy on all tests! The Stagg was the best sounding, what a steal at that price! Who knows how long the Stagg would last mind you! Great video. Thanks
Most will want the SM57 ...because it has the name.. and a bit of midrange boost (muddy)... the first thing they do i to add treble on the EQ.. that puzzles me.. why not get the Stagg (for the case), and leave the trebel alone.. less noise.. more power..
@Zush hmm disagree... a lot... just bought 4 SubZero SZM-10.. sound better than my SM57... blind tested them.. and let others judge.. 57's are now in the drawer as backup. 4 SZ = 1 sm57 .. well .. maybe we can agree on: its a matter of how they sound.. not the price :-)
+1 for Pyle, we use the Pyle as a boom mic for capturing vocals + ukelele home recordings for our channel, and we are happy for our modest needs. Nice comparison video, very helpful.
The Pyle sounds the best actually in all tests. The Stagg sounds like a cheap toy karaoke mic with its more harsh high end response (which some mistakenly call "clarity"). It does, however, have the best "pop" protection from breath & wind noise, I'll give it that much. The Pyle has no transformer like the SM57 does & as such sounds better on guitar/bass cabinets & drums because having no transformer really opens up the frequency response & sensitivity a bit & makes it sound more like an SM57 with the famous "TapeOp" mod in which you remove the transformer from an SM57. The downside to this is that you have to remember NOT to let the Pyle mic (or a modded SM57) receive any phantom power whatsoever or you will burn out the voice coil in it with from the 48V that phantom power supplies. The Pyle gets my vote because I can tell you that the frequency response is basically perfect in just about every live & studio mix I've tried it on when the EQ is set to flat. The Bragg & the SM57 have to be tweaked each & every time from my experience. I have over 40 years recording & playing experience. The Pyle is an amazing bang for the buck! Perfect solution for drummers on a budget yet delivers pretty much better results than a set of SM57s. The Pyle also delivers a fatter mid-low end which really helps drums, basses & guitars sit perfectly in the mix. The only real way to compare mics and anything else is in a full-band live or recording mix, but this video was really good. By the way, the DSL20HR has been my main amp for everything for about a year now. What an amazing amp for the money. I even get compliments all the time from guys running TSLs & the overhyped, overpriced & overkilled JVMs. A DSL20HR with a 2x12 loaded with Celestion Vintage 30s is all a guitarist should ever need. The days of the 50 pound 100 watt dinosaur amps & 120 pound 4x12 cabinets are long gone. Only a fool would now choose to break his back (and bank account) to torture his body & mind chasing the tone that the DSL20HR delivers in spade - and then some!
Heh? that's not how phantom power works... You have +48v on the hot wire and also +48v on cold wire so the potential difference between the two is zero volts. If a microphone wants to make use of phantom power then it will use the ground pin on the XLR for that to get 48v. DISCLAIMER: DYOR, NO ELECTRIC ADVICE!
The pyle was a little shrill. And lacked a touch of the low end of the Stagg. I'm not certain that the shure and stagg aren't closer than they seem because I'm biased in favor of the shure and this isn't a blind test. Assuming the stagg has a touch less range on each end of the frequency spectrum than the shure, as it seemed to me, the price difference is hardly justified. That being said the pyle is a bargain at 15 bucks or whatever. If you want a hotter sound and don't mind dealing with EQ etc, then the pyle is a damn good home recording option. Can you imagine a $ 15 mic sounding that good just a few years ago?
I wasn't a big fan of the pyle, but I really was impressed by the Stagg! Sound as goo as the Shur, but different. Here in Brazil we don't have much aquisitive power and the price difference between the Stagg and the shure is HUGE, so this really helped me out because I can't afford a legit 57 and now I'll be able to record on my incoming home studio, Thanks for this video!
@@landonbailey Me too! It's like a Gibson x Epiphone comparison. A Gibson is 10x the price, and for shure it's better, but not 10x better! We actually pay tons of money for the brands instead of the product itself
The Shure will sound "muddy" and be heavier in comparison because it has a transformer where the Pyle and Stagg (I assume) do not. This would make them seem flimsier/lighter and also create a treble lift. Some people take out their transformers in their 57s to get this sound.
Indeed the Pyle/Stagg is transformerless and there are people that actually mod them with either a generic transformer or an sm57 transformer which I think is kind off silly really. I heard a shootout and the Pyle sounded better without the transformer. For that matter, I am one of those people you mentioned that likes the sound of SM57's with the transformer removed.
I could hear a difference with every sm57 test. The SM57 just has more body and definition. The others are Ok for the price. You'll just have to EQ more.
We can generally “make it work” with any mic these days, but unless you need a set of 5 to 10 mics for a big project, the savings aren’t that big anyway since the Shure SM57 isn’t that expensive. And it’s definitely an industry standard and good reference for comparison. So if I had to buy a mic now, it would still be the Shure SM57 - Just add a Shure KSM313 and you’re set to record guitars ;) PS: Yes, I do prefer the KSM313 to the industry standard Royer R121 :D
good that you can buy the more expensive options and not have to think about it. But for the rest of us with a limited budget to spend, objective comparisons like this video are necesary for the best bang for the buck.
The shure wins. Particularly for the electric guitar. Warmer/thicker.. better construction. We all know you can hammer in tent pegs with them. The others clones wouldnt last squat.
Hello Lando,.for me according your clips there is no clear difference on vocals, distorted & clean electric guitar but when you play acoustic guitar the Stagg seems wider in response, more clear in trebles and bass and Pyle more midrangy. Questions: (1) I see the position of both microphones is different. Is the Stagg slightly more focussed to the acoustic guitar hole?Could be? (2)The Stagg comes with XLR-XLR and Pyle XLR- PLUG cable.When you plug in the 1/4 connector on the Scarlett 212 ...does it consider it as LINE or MIC? because there are impedance differences that can affect to the frequency response . (3kohm for mic, 52kohm for line) (3)the Stagg polar pattern specified is cardioid and Pyle´s is specified as unidirectional but the graphic in the booklet is the same as cardioid.(a bit confusing). Are both unidirectional , cardioid or what?This can affect how each mic react to slight differences in position. For me your opinion of what you experienced can help to know their differences.Thank you
If you listen through a good set of Bose headphones as I did, there is actually quite a difference in sound between the 3. Close but definitely a difference.
the mic placement on acoustic guitar section differ on all 3, it will give you different sounds especially when you mic it so close to the sound hole like that.
Wow, I’m very surprised. The real 57 sounded noticeably darker than the copies to me, and also a little too hot. Seems like the Stagg would be the best all around bang for the buck, especially since it comes with a nice case, and XLR to XLR cable. But for 14 clams, the Pyle is pretty darn impressive as well.
I actually thought the Pyle had a warmer sound, although very close to the Stagg. All sounded good and more importantly, very similar. I do think the Sure had a slightly thinner sound. Any one of these mics can be made to sound good with proper EQ settings at the console. For me, considering the $80 price difference, the Pyle wins.
Well I read a lot of comments and confirm actually the most with Your's. I found the Pyle pretty good on the electric guitar (in both comparrisons I watched), the Stagg sounded the best on the accoustic and for the voice I'd liked the shure best.
The Pyle has a good upper frequency range. which I prefer for my vocals. The Shure wins for cab miking though, but with some EQ, you could probably get them to sound near identical. For how cheap the Pyle is. I'd say you can't go wrong. And I don't mind the XLR to 1/4 inch, personally
Diet Guitar talking about the xlr to quarter inch, would you be able to use that to connect to an usb interface with quarter inch input instead of using xlr
Pyle= had less low end and more responsive highend, more effected by plosives Stagg= more rounded low & high end Handled plosives a bit better Shure= bit more mid range resposnse similar low end to the stagg,high end was in between pyle and stagg.
I can almost guarantee that the Pyle and the Stagg are actually the exact same mic, made in the same factory in China somewhere with the same components and then different names were slapped on them. They sound virtually identical (accounting for minor movements on the amp is the only reason I say virtually and the possibility that the QC may not be the greatest and one to the next, may be a little different) and the SM57 sounds clearly different. Having said that, the Pyle/Stagg has a big boost in the highs, which can actually be cool. I heard the Pyle against a 57 and a 421 on a rack tom and I actually thought the Pyle sounded better than both. It had the low end of the 421, which an SM57 does not have and it had more high end and therefore more attack on a tom than the 57 or the very dark by comparison 421. The Pyle (I'm just grouping the Pyle and Stagg as one mic because I guarantee they're the same components and built in the same Chinese factory) definitely is a bit shrill in the high end on certain sources. It's definitely not going to be great for everything, but I'm tempted to buy one and just give it a go on snare top or bottom or anything that would benefit from the sorta smiley face frequency response it puts out.
Seems like the sure has warmer mids, the pyle has better lows and high treble, but harsher mids...but i think that could be easily warmed up with a parametric eq...the stagg seemed to grab the nasty of the distortion unpleasantly ....idk,i think ppl could easily get away with recording with any of these mics. The shure is the most balanced easily. All depends on what sound your looking for. Im thinking of grabbin some of these pyle mics for drums bc they have better low end and the clarity is there better.....they sound like they would be great for drums!
Just so you know, the microphones were all in different positions when you were mic’ing the acoustic. It’s pretty hard to judge what the mics sound like from different positions.
I own a few of these Pyle mics and they work great. They are as good as the sm57. So far they have lasted 4 years with no problems. I just think SM57 costs more because of the brand name. I’m happy with the Pyle mics. I use them to record and to gig with.
That's promising hearing & realizing that you got 4 years out of a $ 15 mic that has the same 1 year warranty that a Shure has when you posted your response and that was 11 months prior to my post. 5 years so far, assuming nothing has changed since your post and they are still as functionally operational as they were out of the box. I ended up getting the PDMIC59, which is a SM58S with the On/Off switch instead of the SM57-ish microphones. Shure upgrades their warranty to 10 years at registration, but if your Pyle PDMIC78's are effectively 5 years and still going strong, how disingenuous is it to upgrade a warranty to 10 years if the Pyles are already 1/2 way there for 1/6 the MSRP ? The Pyles have really lived up to & beyond expectations. I don't like that something as affordable as the Pyles are generally discounted as cheap & throw away & disposable. If you take care of the microphone, they should last as long as the weakest part internally. I don't know why, but end up trying to validate my purchase, but the validation is in how long it lasts and cost for that time period. I will say I thought the Shure had the darker smoldering tone, but I also think that can be EQ'ed to identical. Would be interesting to see them graphed and determine what resistor could end up being soldered into the wiring on the way out of the body and prior to the 3 pin XLR to really make them identical ?
SM57 sound more "dark" than other two, the 2 cheap seems more air sound. stagg seems cutting more the bass frequencies, in fact on the speaking test he "pop" much less than pyle and the shure. i tryed the pyle and SM57 reamping on my bandit 112 (just for personal test and compare different mics) and on high gain metal tone sound better the pyle (both was mixed with a cardioid mic). the SM57 made the history like his brother SM58 but thinking about be on stage and get robbed by someone, better use a pyle or a stagg, SM57 just for studio recording or live if u always keep one eye on your gear. If i remember well, the 2 cheap mic are more light cause they dont have the phantom killer. if u attack them with phantom power on u risk to burn them. can u confirm that?
Yeah I been listening to these mics and I think this mics have similar sound, for voice for me all 3 sounded pretty same, on SM you had your mouth closer to the mic and you could her the difference getting lover frequencies when you had talk to it, so as well when you had played electrical guitar you couldn't hear so much difference, all 3 picked sound very well, for my taste all 3 were high, maybe there was more middle on SM, on acoustic same thing similar sounding only for me Stagg had the best sound;Pyle was to high, Stagg exactly perfect, SM like I all ready wrote has little bit more of middle or bass to it, for singing best sounding for me was Pyle because it didn't pick "P" other 2 Stagg and SM did and this is something that singer has to learn to avoid, so for singing in this contest of this 3 mics the best was Pyle, for Acoustic was Stagg, for electrical guitar it is up to who ever plays it to fix the sound, maybe SM had that middle cleaner sound but Stagg is not behind with sound, Pyle is there as well but it is to high, so my conclusion is you never say to any mic it is original, all 3 of this mics are original, only SM is the oldest and probably by now it is Made in China. So to get back to my conclusion to this how I had heard it, Pyle sounded most impressive for vocals, for acoustic Stagg sounded most impressive, for electrical guitars all 3 can do the job, it is up to you to make your sound on your amp, so I would save up money and get Stagg for instrumental use, you even get this nice plastic bag and it is all thought Made in Belgium but doesn't matter where what it is made if you are satisfied with the sound and you don't look on trade marks, it is totally up to you, of cause SM57 is legendary Mic because it is the oldest one on the scene, still it is up to you what is sounding for you better to get it and what you can afford, it has nothing to do with price or trade mark, it only has to do with your sound that is up to you, even Pyle did sound most impressive for vocals I would not get it, because here where I live they don't have it for sale, so it means I would if they had. So what I would do and how I would do that it is - I would get Stagg for instruments and SM for Voice that is my conclusion and the way to save some money and still to have good sound because all 3 sound similar. Thank You for reading my comment, best wishes wishes you DAMIR and enjoy what ever is your choice, that is only how I think, it is up to you....Cheers...
For Vocals i like Stagg, for amp work Pyle ,for classic gain Shure and for acoustic giutar Shure!! I missed the most use of this type of mic the drums and exactly the snare but the total image is that is difficult to set some real and unbusted things to say witch is better!!! I think i judge them for the price and yes i think the Stagg has win with that sound at the one quarter of the Shure's price is deffinitelly the winner but and the Pyle i think is nice too!!!
I think the real test is durability: it's easy to emulate the function of the Shure, but using cheap materials might shorten the lifespan significantly. Or the Shure is overpriced because of marketing and fame; I don't know. But I'd be curious to see how each mic holds up to punishment.
I agree, I'm not sure the cheaper MICs would stand up to gigging, and club/bar usage. But for home recording they should be a good option. sm57s and 58s are known to take a beating and still work.
Hello, I wonder if the PYLE PDMIC78 and STAGG SDM70 are the same product but with different brands because I cannot hear differences in sound. Please could you confirm this? Do they have any physical differences inside (cables,etc) ??? ..Would be interesting to know it. Thank you!
Nice presentation! Comprehensive and very helpful. I found a four pack of the PDMIC78 delivered to my home for $26! So drop the mic and toss me a new one. My wallet has never been happier. And my ears ain't complaining either. Thanks for helping make the decision an INFORMED one. Oh yeah, good performance too!
Personally not much in them I'm guessing the Shure is the only one with a isolation transformer. Although I can hear a difference between the Pyle and Stagg I'm guessing they come out of the same Chinese factory just different branding and packaging.. I do a bit of PA work and have boxfuls of 57 copies that I use in front of amps and touch wood have not had any problems with them, unlike vocal mics they are generally static so no feedback issues. Regarding vocals I only have a couple of dearer mics one SM58 and a Sennheiser and Live I really don't hear much difference between them and and my Samson Q7s .
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I want to try the Shure, I got the Steren MIC-1057, at the first one the plastic inside had the Shure label, the second one that I bought doesn't have it XD
The 2 cheaper models are transformerless, hence the weight difference and sound difference. Ironically, there are those who MOD their SM57's and remove the transformers so they sound more like the cheaper mics! The Pyles are really a great deal for the money if you like to mod stuff. The Pyle's need to be rewired for XLR (simple mod) out of the box and phase, although I hear they are now manufacturing them that way. I have a couple of Pyles and they are excellent for the money. For a clone that is spot on check out the OSP DL - 330, it has a transformer and is sonically identical in build and sonics to the 57. It goes for around $30.
The Shure was a little darker tone to my ears. But I felt both the Pyle & Stagg were there trading punches. In that case if I were scoring the rounds like a boxing match, they were even rounds, there's a 3 way draw at the end of this prize fight. And in that case our new heavyweight champion of the world is the Pyle PDMIC78. You really have to do the math on what the Stagg cost above & beyond to include a case vs the Pyle. So, the Shure doesn't come with a cable, that's extra, so the clip is what it is. The Stagg had the XLR-M => XLR-F cable, but no clip. The Pyle had neither case nor clip, but came with a XLR-F => TS cable. They all left an item or two that a 1st time buyer might need to circle back to and pick up the right or desired accessory. i would think for the additional cost the Shure was on comparison, that they would 've at least offered a cable of at least the same quality as the Pyle or even the Stagg ? So that's another disappointment. The Pyle & Stagg offered enough value that I simply found not having a clip to be comical. I think the reason the clip was excluded, they felt that was a part of the mic stand that one is most likely getting as a separate purchase.
right, given that it clearly there is a distinctive quality improvement going up the price range (at least that) I'd say that there is much more increase in value per $ going from the pyle to the Stagg than from Stagg to classic Shure, which in my mind makes the Stagg the best per-(your currency)-pick.
Hello, how are you? I'm from Brazil, and congratulations for your video, everything here costs a lot of money, so I found this SDM70 from Stagg, and I bought it, it still has not arrived, I'm anxious, waiting for the order, lol, for your video I had a good idea, and I made my choice, thank you very much, hug.
How has the stagg treated you? Thinking of getting one cause ive just found a cheap scarlet interface and I'm on a budget due to Christmas. Could look in to a proper sm57 early next year sometime.
i have 2 stagg . sure are not realy worth it , you can get 3 or 4 stag for price of sure , and you get also cable and case with it , and the sound difference is unnoticeable
Handling noise? Pickup pattern? Both of these extremely important aspects of a mic no spoken about. A lot of the 57/58 clones have excessive handling noise and a useless pickup pattern.
Hello there nice job man!!! A super comparison video!!I wanna ask you something if you know about it ! The Wish.com mobile app gives the real (they say is real original!!) Shure SM57 for almost 18 to 24 $ allready new!! Can you check it or know if it's the same mic or a big super budget buy??Thank you for your time!!Greetings from Greece!!
I think the 57 is a lousy mic especially in comparison to a Beyerdynamic M201. So comparing lo price 57-wannabes to a real 57 is something weird. But ok - it may be appreciated by homerecording guys on a budget.
Pyle sounds clean and bright. Shure sounds muffled. Stagg sounds like someone took a shotgun to the midrange. All three need a pop filter for vocal use due to plosives. I have spoken.
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Which MIC did you like more? FYI: Timestamps are in the description, And yes I know, that ending is terrible :) :P
I must admit the Pyle PDMIC78 sounds very good for the price; slightly less full than the SM57 (in other words, more scooped/pronounced around the 3K range), surprisingly.
Many thanks for a great video!
Well, is it scooped or pronounced?😂
I'm just here for a 5 year update on the Pyle's and Stagg's that I've had since before this video, and they're still holding up fine with zero issues so far (knock on wood). I've done 100's of recordings and even some live shows with them just to see how they perform and handle in real world scenario's and have had no complaints yet. Of course they don't replace my higher priced mics, but still very useable and worth the price to me. I lean towards the Pyle's more than the Stagg's, I mostly play a heavy rock and metal style of music, but either way I can't complain.
Thank you for the comparisons,I'm blown away in hearing that you somehow made them sound the same,I'm filled with joy knowing that we are capable of doing more on budget
I think the stagg sounded the best overall.
The Shure lacked a bit of the high-end that the other 2 had a nice amount of, and the Pyle had a little less low mid.
Ultimately, I would use the Shure on a snare drum, anyday, and the Stagg for everything else.
I would not knock the Pyle at all, though. The fact that a $30 mic can hold its own against an sm57 is brilliant.
It also goes to show that it's a LOT more affordable for people to get into audio production than we are lead to believe.
Just this Pyle, a computer and an interface is all you need to start making great sounding music.
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I'm kinda shocked at this comparison! The Shure sound's muddy on all tests! The Stagg was the best sounding, what a steal at that price! Who knows how long the Stagg would last mind you! Great video. Thanks
hey thanks! ya sound quality is one part, and durability is the unknown 😊👍🎙
Thank you for making this video: microphone shootout/comparison, because I had not known of the Stagg SDM70 until this video.
hey no problem Jason!
Most will want the SM57 ...because it has the name.. and a bit of midrange boost (muddy)... the first thing they do i to add treble on the EQ.. that puzzles me.. why not get the Stagg (for the case), and leave the trebel alone.. less noise.. more power..
@Zush hmm disagree... a lot... just bought 4 SubZero SZM-10.. sound better than my SM57... blind tested them.. and let others judge.. 57's are now in the drawer as backup.
4 SZ = 1 sm57 .. well .. maybe we can agree on: its a matter of how they sound.. not the price :-)
No mid range boost at all
+1 for Pyle, we use the Pyle as a boom mic for capturing vocals + ukelele home recordings for our channel, and we are happy for our modest needs. Nice comparison video, very helpful.
The Pyle sounds the best actually in all tests. The Stagg sounds like a cheap toy karaoke mic with its more harsh high end response (which some mistakenly call "clarity"). It does, however, have the best "pop" protection from breath & wind noise, I'll give it that much.
The Pyle has no transformer like the SM57 does & as such sounds better on guitar/bass cabinets & drums because having no transformer really opens up the frequency response & sensitivity a bit & makes it sound more like an SM57 with the famous "TapeOp" mod in which you remove the transformer from an SM57. The downside to this is that you have to remember NOT to let the Pyle mic (or a modded SM57) receive any phantom power whatsoever or you will burn out the voice coil in it with from the 48V that phantom power supplies.
The Pyle gets my vote because I can tell you that the frequency response is basically perfect in just about every live & studio mix I've tried it on when the EQ is set to flat. The Bragg & the SM57 have to be tweaked each & every time from my experience. I have over 40 years recording & playing experience.
The Pyle is an amazing bang for the buck! Perfect solution for drummers on a budget yet delivers pretty much better results than a set of SM57s.
The Pyle also delivers a fatter mid-low end which really helps drums, basses & guitars sit perfectly in the mix.
The only real way to compare mics and anything else is in a full-band live or recording mix, but this video was really good.
By the way, the DSL20HR has been my main amp for everything for about a year now. What an amazing amp for the money. I even get compliments all the time from guys running TSLs & the overhyped, overpriced & overkilled JVMs. A DSL20HR with a 2x12 loaded with Celestion Vintage 30s is all a guitarist should ever need. The days of the 50 pound 100 watt dinosaur amps & 120 pound 4x12 cabinets are long gone. Only a fool would now choose to break his back (and bank account) to torture his body & mind chasing the tone that the DSL20HR delivers in spade - and then some!
My man you just saved me from blowing up my Pyle, thanks!
Heh? that's not how phantom power works...
You have +48v on the hot wire and also +48v on cold wire so the potential difference between the two is zero volts.
If a microphone wants to make use of phantom power then it will use the ground pin on the XLR for that to get 48v.
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The pyle was a little shrill. And lacked a touch of the low end of the Stagg. I'm not certain that the shure and stagg aren't closer than they seem because I'm biased in favor of the shure and this isn't a blind test. Assuming the stagg has a touch less range on each end of the frequency spectrum than the shure, as it seemed to me, the price difference is hardly justified. That being said the pyle is a bargain at 15 bucks or whatever. If you want a hotter sound and don't mind dealing with EQ etc, then the pyle is a damn good home recording option. Can you imagine a $ 15 mic sounding that good just a few years ago?
Thanks for the comparison! I'll get the Stagg!
From my understanding the clones dont have an output transformer, open them up and look.
None of them do, they are not condenser mics , they are Dynamics 🤷🙄
Hey I just wanted to thank you. You have the only video I believe comparing these 3 mics with an acoustic guitar. I went with the Shure.
I wasn't a big fan of the pyle, but I really was impressed by the Stagg! Sound as goo as the Shur, but different. Here in Brazil we don't have much aquisitive power and the price difference between the Stagg and the shure is HUGE, so this really helped me out because I can't afford a legit 57 and now I'll be able to record on my incoming home studio, Thanks for this video!
I think the Stagg is the best value
@@landonbailey Me too! It's like a Gibson x Epiphone comparison. A Gibson is 10x the price, and for shure it's better, but not 10x better! We actually pay tons of money for the brands instead of the product itself
The Shure will sound "muddy" and be heavier in comparison because it has a transformer where the Pyle and Stagg (I assume) do not. This would make them seem flimsier/lighter and also create a treble lift. Some people take out their transformers in their 57s to get this sound.
did not know that! thanks for the info! :)
Indeed the Pyle/Stagg is transformerless and there are people that actually mod them with either a generic transformer or an sm57 transformer which I think is kind off silly really. I heard a shootout and the Pyle sounded better without the transformer. For that matter, I am one of those people you mentioned that likes the sound of SM57's with the transformer removed.
I could hear a difference with every sm57 test. The SM57 just has more body and definition. The others are Ok for the price. You'll just have to EQ more.
We can generally “make it work” with any mic these days, but unless you need a set of 5 to 10 mics for a big project, the savings aren’t that big anyway since the Shure SM57 isn’t that expensive. And it’s definitely an industry standard and good reference for comparison. So if I had to buy a mic now, it would still be the Shure SM57 - Just add a Shure KSM313 and you’re set to record guitars ;)
PS: Yes, I do prefer the KSM313 to the industry standard Royer R121 :D
good that you can buy the more expensive options and not have to think about it. But for the rest of us with a limited budget to spend, objective comparisons like this video are necesary for the best bang for the buck.
The Shure mic is the only one that have buzzing noise.
what do you mean?
The shure wins. Particularly for the electric guitar. Warmer/thicker.. better construction. We all know you can hammer in tent pegs with them. The others clones wouldnt last squat.
they are rock solid!
Hello Lando,.for me according your clips there is no clear difference on vocals, distorted & clean electric guitar but when you play acoustic guitar the Stagg seems wider in response, more clear in trebles and bass and Pyle more midrangy. Questions:
(1) I see the position of both microphones is different. Is the Stagg slightly more focussed to the acoustic guitar hole?Could be?
(2)The Stagg comes with XLR-XLR and Pyle XLR- PLUG cable.When you plug in the 1/4 connector on the Scarlett 212 ...does it consider it as LINE or MIC? because there are impedance differences that can affect to the frequency response . (3kohm for mic, 52kohm for line)
(3)the Stagg polar pattern specified is cardioid and Pyle´s is specified as unidirectional but the graphic in the booklet is the same as cardioid.(a bit confusing). Are both unidirectional , cardioid or what?This can affect how each mic react to slight differences in position. For me your opinion of what you experienced can help to know their differences.Thank you
the biggest difference is the build quality. sm57 and the Stagg are on top
If you listen through a good set of Bose headphones as I did, there is actually quite a difference in sound between the 3. Close but definitely a difference.
the mic placement on acoustic guitar section differ on all 3, it will give you different sounds especially when you mic it so close to the sound hole like that.
ah damn! I'm firing my production assistant 😊👍
Wow, I’m very surprised. The real 57 sounded noticeably darker than the copies to me, and also a little too hot. Seems like the Stagg would be the best all around bang for the buck, especially since it comes with a nice case, and XLR to XLR cable. But for 14 clams, the Pyle is pretty darn impressive as well.
ya I think the Stagg is a good value
I actually thought the Pyle had a warmer sound, although very close to the Stagg. All sounded good and more importantly, very similar. I do think the Sure had a slightly thinner sound. Any one of these mics can be made to sound good with proper EQ settings at the console. For me, considering the $80 price difference, the Pyle wins.
exactly my thoughts - the mid-low warmth on the Pyle is a winner
Well I read a lot of comments and confirm actually the most with Your's. I found the Pyle pretty good on the electric guitar (in both comparrisons I watched), the Stagg sounded the best on the accoustic and for the voice I'd liked the shure best.
What interface do you use? Is it budget too? Cause I have the stagg sdm70 and I need a (budget) interface for it
The Pyle has a good upper frequency range. which I prefer for my vocals. The Shure wins for cab miking though, but with some EQ, you could probably get them to sound near identical.
For how cheap the Pyle is. I'd say you can't go wrong. And I don't mind the XLR to 1/4 inch, personally
hey cool, thanks for the feedback! 🎸👍
Diet Guitar talking about the xlr to quarter inch, would you be able to use that to connect to an usb interface with quarter inch input instead of using xlr
Voice = All of them (depends on your voice)
Electric Guitar = Shure > Pyle
Acoustic = Pyle > Stagg.
I would still get all 3 of them.
I agree the Stagg sounded terrible on the acoustic. Harsh high end
“Don’t you know you might find “ 😊
Pyle= had less low end and more responsive highend, more effected by plosives
Stagg= more rounded low & high end
Handled plosives a bit better
Shure= bit more mid range resposnse similar low end to the stagg,high end was in between pyle and stagg.
good variety from each. thanks for listening and the feedback 👍🎸
I was surprised about the Stagg, had a bit more clarity (IMO) than the SM57
I think it's a pretty good mic. good value
I can almost guarantee that the Pyle and the Stagg are actually the exact same mic, made in the same factory in China somewhere with the same components and then different names were slapped on them. They sound virtually identical (accounting for minor movements on the amp is the only reason I say virtually and the possibility that the QC may not be the greatest and one to the next, may be a little different) and the SM57 sounds clearly different. Having said that, the Pyle/Stagg has a big boost in the highs, which can actually be cool. I heard the Pyle against a 57 and a 421 on a rack tom and I actually thought the Pyle sounded better than both. It had the low end of the 421, which an SM57 does not have and it had more high end and therefore more attack on a tom than the 57 or the very dark by comparison 421. The Pyle (I'm just grouping the Pyle and Stagg as one mic because I guarantee they're the same components and built in the same Chinese factory) definitely is a bit shrill in the high end on certain sources. It's definitely not going to be great for everything, but I'm tempted to buy one and just give it a go on snare top or bottom or anything that would benefit from the sorta smiley face frequency response it puts out.
They don't feel the same physically
@@landonbailey how so?
Very Cool and Helpful Comparison. Thankyou
Glad it was helpful!
Seems like the sure has warmer mids, the pyle has better lows and high treble, but harsher mids...but i think that could be easily warmed up with a parametric eq...the stagg seemed to grab the nasty of the distortion unpleasantly ....idk,i think ppl could easily get away with recording with any of these mics. The shure is the most balanced easily. All depends on what sound your looking for. Im thinking of grabbin some of these pyle mics for drums bc they have better low end and the clarity is there better.....they sound like they would be great for drums!
i picked up the stagg mics at my local music store buy one get 2 free! Can't wait to start using them for recording
Nice!
Just so you know, the microphones were all in different positions when you were mic’ing the acoustic. It’s pretty hard to judge what the mics sound like from different positions.
ya I guess we'll never know
I own a few of these Pyle mics and they work great. They are as good as the sm57. So far they have lasted 4 years with no problems. I just think SM57 costs more because of the brand name. I’m happy with the Pyle mics. I use them to record and to gig with.
cool! thanks for sharing your experiences with them
That's promising hearing & realizing that you got 4 years out of a $ 15 mic that has the same 1 year warranty that a Shure has when you posted your response and that was 11 months prior to my post. 5 years so far, assuming nothing has changed since your post and they are still as functionally operational as they were out of the box. I ended up getting the PDMIC59, which is a SM58S with the On/Off switch instead of the SM57-ish microphones. Shure upgrades their warranty to 10 years at registration, but if your Pyle PDMIC78's are effectively 5 years and still going strong, how disingenuous is it to upgrade a warranty to 10 years if the Pyles are already 1/2 way there for 1/6 the MSRP ? The Pyles have really lived up to & beyond expectations. I don't like that something as affordable as the Pyles are generally discounted as cheap & throw away & disposable. If you take care of the microphone, they should last as long as the weakest part internally. I don't know why, but end up trying to validate my purchase, but the validation is in how long it lasts and cost for that time period.
I will say I thought the Shure had the darker smoldering tone, but I also think that can be EQ'ed to identical. Would be interesting to see them graphed and determine what resistor could end up being soldered into the wiring on the way out of the body and prior to the 3 pin XLR to really make them identical ?
SM57 sound more "dark" than other two, the 2 cheap seems more air sound. stagg seems cutting more the bass frequencies, in fact on the speaking test he "pop" much less than pyle and the shure. i tryed the pyle and SM57 reamping on my bandit 112 (just for personal test and compare different mics) and on high gain metal tone sound better the pyle (both was mixed with a cardioid mic). the SM57 made the history like his brother SM58 but thinking about be on stage and get robbed by someone, better use a pyle or a stagg, SM57 just for studio recording or live if u always keep one eye on your gear. If i remember well, the 2 cheap mic are more light cause they dont have the phantom killer. if u attack them with phantom power on u risk to burn them. can u confirm that?
I don't think running phantom power hurts them
Yeah I been listening to these mics and I think this mics have similar sound, for voice for me all 3 sounded pretty same, on SM you had your mouth closer to the mic and you could her the difference getting lover frequencies when you had talk to it, so as well when you had played electrical guitar you couldn't hear so much difference, all 3 picked sound very well, for my taste all 3 were high, maybe there was more middle on SM, on acoustic same thing similar sounding only for me Stagg had the best sound;Pyle was to high, Stagg exactly perfect, SM like I all ready wrote has little bit more of middle or bass to it, for singing best sounding for me was Pyle because it didn't pick "P" other 2 Stagg and SM did and this is something that singer has to learn to avoid, so for singing in this contest of this 3 mics the best was Pyle, for Acoustic was Stagg, for electrical guitar it is up to who ever plays it to fix the sound, maybe SM had that middle cleaner sound but Stagg is not behind with sound, Pyle is there as well but it is to high, so my conclusion is you never say to any mic it is original, all 3 of this mics are original, only SM is the oldest and probably by now it is Made in China. So to get back to my conclusion to this how I had heard it, Pyle sounded most impressive for vocals, for acoustic Stagg sounded most impressive, for electrical guitars all 3 can do the job, it is up to you to make your sound on your amp, so I would save up money and get Stagg for instrumental use, you even get this nice plastic bag and it is all thought Made in Belgium but doesn't matter where what it is made if you are satisfied with the sound and you don't look on trade marks, it is totally up to you, of cause SM57 is legendary Mic because it is the oldest one on the scene, still it is up to you what is sounding for you better to get it and what you can afford, it has nothing to do with price or trade mark, it only has to do with your sound that is up to you, even Pyle did sound most impressive for vocals I would not get it, because here where I live they don't have it for sale, so it means I would if they had. So what I would do and how I would do that it is - I would get Stagg for instruments and SM for Voice that is my conclusion and the way to save some money and still to have good sound because all 3 sound similar. Thank You for reading my comment, best wishes wishes you DAMIR and enjoy what ever is your choice, that is only how I think, it is up to you....Cheers...
wow thanks for the feedback! take care
For Vocals i like Stagg, for amp work Pyle ,for classic gain Shure and for acoustic giutar Shure!! I missed the most use of this type of mic the drums and exactly the snare but the total image is that is difficult to set some real and unbusted things to say witch is better!!! I think i judge them for the price and yes i think the Stagg has win with that sound at the one quarter of the Shure's price is deffinitelly the winner but and the Pyle i think is nice too!!!
cool thanks for your feedback and opinions!
I thought I’d already subscribed awhile back. LOL I’m actually doing a video on this same topic very soon. Thanks for the great video Lando!
All good! thanks Robert!
I think the real test is durability: it's easy to emulate the function of the Shure, but using cheap materials might shorten the lifespan significantly.
Or the Shure is overpriced because of marketing and fame; I don't know. But I'd be curious to see how each mic holds up to punishment.
I agree, I'm not sure the cheaper MICs would stand up to gigging, and club/bar usage. But for home recording they should be a good option. sm57s and 58s are known to take a beating and still work.
Agreed. We've had 4 sm57's for 8 years. Today was the fist time one of them malfunctioned.
that's a pretty good track record!
Thanks for the review. I went with the Stagg.
Do you ever asked yourself why they buildt the SM58 with foam inside ?
every single day
the stagg sounds very good, my fav on this VS'
cool thanks for the feedback!
Hello, I wonder if the PYLE PDMIC78 and STAGG SDM70 are the same product but with different brands because I cannot hear differences in sound. Please could you confirm this? Do they have any physical differences inside (cables,etc) ??? ..Would be interesting to know it. Thank you!
They're definitely not the same
Nice presentation! Comprehensive and very helpful. I found a four pack of the PDMIC78 delivered to my home for $26! So drop the mic and toss me a new one. My wallet has never been happier. And my ears ain't complaining either. Thanks for helping make the decision an INFORMED one. Oh yeah, good performance too!
Hi, please compare them to the behringer sl 75c
Personally not much in them I'm guessing the Shure is the only one with a isolation transformer. Although I can hear a difference between the Pyle and Stagg I'm guessing they come out of the same Chinese factory just different branding and packaging.. I do a bit of PA work and have boxfuls of 57 copies that I use in front of amps and touch wood have not had any problems with them, unlike vocal mics they are generally static so no feedback issues. Regarding vocals I only have a couple of dearer mics one SM58 and a Sennheiser and Live I really don't hear much difference between them and and my Samson Q7s .
I want to try the Shure, I got the Steren MIC-1057, at the first one the plastic inside had the Shure label, the second one that I bought doesn't have it XD
Who liked the stagg better than the 57 too?
The 2 cheaper models are transformerless, hence the weight difference and sound difference. Ironically, there are those who MOD their SM57's and remove the transformers so they sound more like the cheaper mics! The Pyles are really a great deal for the money if you like to mod stuff. The Pyle's need to be rewired for XLR (simple mod) out of the box and phase, although I hear they are now manufacturing them that way. I have a couple of Pyles and they are excellent for the money. For a clone that is spot on check out the OSP DL - 330, it has a transformer and is sonically identical in build and sonics to the 57. It goes for around $30.
thanks for the info on them!
guys, which of these three would you recommend for recording a bass amp?
I wonder which mic rejects feedback the best...?
1st- Shure SM57, 2nd- Pyle-Pro PDMIC78
thanks for the feedback!
In my opinion the sm57 has more of a rich sound with even h highs and smoother Lows
cool thanks for the feedback!
Is it just me or did the sm57 have a really high pitched buzzing noise when you were speaking
The Shure was a little darker tone to my ears. But I felt both the Pyle & Stagg were there trading punches. In that case if I were scoring the rounds like a boxing match, they were even rounds, there's a 3 way draw at the end of this prize fight. And in that case our new heavyweight champion of the world is the Pyle PDMIC78. You really have to do the math on what the Stagg cost above & beyond to include a case vs the Pyle. So, the Shure doesn't come with a cable, that's extra, so the clip is what it is. The Stagg had the XLR-M => XLR-F cable, but no clip. The Pyle had neither case nor clip, but came with a XLR-F => TS cable. They all left an item or two that a 1st time buyer might need to circle back to and pick up the right or desired accessory. i would think for the additional cost the Shure was on comparison, that they would 've at least offered a cable of at least the same quality as the Pyle or even the Stagg ? So that's another disappointment. The Pyle & Stagg offered enough value that I simply found not having a clip to be comical. I think the reason the clip was excluded, they felt that was a part of the mic stand that one is most likely getting as a separate purchase.
right, given that it clearly there is a distinctive quality improvement going up the price range (at least that) I'd say that there is much more increase in value per $ going from the pyle to the Stagg than from Stagg to classic Shure, which in my mind makes the Stagg the best per-(your currency)-pick.
clearly ?
i dont hear shit
Super nice works great
Thank you very much
Shure sounds more compressed which can be fixed on the cheaper options for free. 😊
Great video!!! I with 40€ buy 2 Behringer SL 75C. Amazing
Nice!
Hello, how are you? I'm from Brazil, and congratulations for your video, everything here costs a lot of money, so I found this SDM70 from Stagg, and I bought it, it still has not arrived, I'm anxious, waiting for the order, lol, for your video I had a good idea, and I made my choice, thank you very much, hug.
thanks for watching! take care
What Peavey amp head behind you?
Peavey Classic 20
got the stagg, thanks for helping us musicians out!
no problem!
How has the stagg treated you? Thinking of getting one cause ive just found a cheap scarlet interface and I'm on a budget due to Christmas. Could look in to a proper sm57 early next year sometime.
Is the SM57 not a budget mic? :O
ya it's not too expensive, but those other mics are a fraction of the price
Is not cheap but is the reference o.or
the sure has a transformer which can easily be added to the budget mics
cool thanks for the tip!
the phantom killer, tha is not present on the other two. without phantom killer it is possible to damage them
funny how I actually liked the pyle on an acustic guitar
0:50 its called stagg(that horse sound) 😂😂
The stagg and Pyle are probably rebrands from the same factory, they sound identical
I'd say the build quality is superior on the Stagg
Yes. All Chinese mic clones use the same cartridges from the same factory.
i have 2 stagg . sure are not realy worth it , you can get 3 or 4 stag for price of sure , and you get also cable and case with it , and the sound difference is unnoticeable
WAS NOT EXPECTING DONT LOOK BACK IN ANGER!!?!
I agree with joseph .. they sounded prettymuch the same .. but more so the stagg almost didnt sound any diffrent then the shure
Handling noise? Pickup pattern? Both of these extremely important aspects of a mic no spoken about. A lot of the 57/58 clones have excessive handling noise and a useless pickup pattern.
I feel like the Stagg has a bit more mids and less noise than the Pyle
thanks for the feedback!
I compare 3 more !! The bcmaster, t-bone and the behringer 8500!!!
In all the reviews of the PDMIC78 I've seen, the housing seems to be always loose!
I've bought 3 of those things and every one arrived loose. They work fine anyway
Can't really compare due to your mic placements
Hello there nice job man!!! A super comparison video!!I wanna ask you something if you know about it ! The Wish.com mobile app gives the real (they say is real original!!) Shure SM57 for almost 18 to 24 $ allready new!! Can you check it or know if it's the same mic or a big super budget buy??Thank you for your time!!Greetings from Greece!!
ya I would doubt that's the real MIC from Shure. Probably a Chinese clone
I think the 57 is a lousy mic especially in comparison to a Beyerdynamic M201. So comparing lo price 57-wannabes to a real 57 is something weird. But ok - it may be appreciated by homerecording guys on a budget.
The stagg and pyle sounded about the same, the sm57 had a high mid bump lol. Non of them sounded BAD per se...
PDMIC78 for me...
Video prof that you get what you pay for, you really can't beat a shure sm57 under it's price range
The Stagg sounds better than the Shure !
you have to put WINDSCREEM for a real demo mannnnnn
whatever that is!
All very similar...
Stagg all the way,price n packing too
Stagg - the best.
Hardly any difference
Pyle sounds clean and bright.
Shure sounds muffled.
Stagg sounds like someone took a shotgun to the midrange.
All three need a pop filter for vocal use due to plosives.
I have spoken.
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6:08 6:25 6:43
Thanks for timestamping, but they are already done in the description
Medium Stagg.
stagg is good) $)
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Bro u need to stop singing
I'm not singing while replying to this comment. just kidding I am!
Hi! Please tell me if the Stagg could be connected somehow to iphone as well?? I need to make some videos while playing....thank you so much!
Unfortunately not
@@landonbailey :-( thanks a lot!