No form or anything given to the coach. Write a note on a lineup card or piece of paper with the coach's name, the game situation, and briefly the violation. After the game, you email it to your assignor with more detail
Ejection reports write themselves. First offense, they get the hand as a stop sign. 2nd offense, coach this is a verbal warning for…xyz if you continue you will be ejected. 3rd offense, coach this is a written warning for…xyz if you continue you will be ejected. 4th offense, coach you are restricted to the dugout for the remainder of the game for…xyz if you continue you will be ejected. 5th offense, coach you are ejected. (By rule, if egregious enough on ANY offense, we can eject immediately.) By following this template and keeping notes of how things escalated, what was said and how you reacted…the ejection report writes itself. I’ve never written an ejection report of more than 4 sentences and I’ve never had a supervisor or state authority question whether I should have ejected the coach. They eject themselves, really.
@@1969ETypeyou've got too many steps there. the written warning IS the dugout restriction. officially there are only 3 steps: verbal warning (MUST use the word "Warning"), written warning with dugout restriction, and ejection. anything else may be a courtesy and good game management that keeps a coach in the game, or may be bad game management that lets a situation escalate when the coach should be gone already. (also, there should only be one "if you continue you will be ejected"; you've got four of them, but apparently didn't mean it)
@@davej3781 No, I don’t have too many steps. You know how I know that? Because my umpire brothers who trained me and my umpires brothers who sign my checks…THAT is how they were told by our state athletic association to manage progressive discipline. Your mileage may vary… The point is not to hunt ejections. The point is to shut down the behavior and complete the baseball game. We also have rules under FED that allow us to immediately restrict or even immediately eject any coach who leaves a base coach’s box or the dugout to dispute umpire judgement. So, please…don’t fret yourself. We handle our market.
Correct me if i am wrong, you state that by rule, a player cannot be restricted to the dugout, other than illegal subs. However, the POE specifically states that an offender may be warned verbally, written (which involves restriction), or ejected. This is based on rule 3-3-1f., which is when a coach, PLAYER, substitute, attendant, or bench personnel shall not f. Commit any unsportmanlike act to include but not limited to items 1-7. Item 2 happens to be profanity. The Note after this rule tells you the penalty is the umpire may warn the offender, if warning is written, offender is restricted.
Sounds like Patrick dropped the ball. The written warning is effective because everyone sees you take out your line- up card holder- write the warning down, and then warn the coach and restrict the coach to his dugout. The demonstrative act is good communication. I’ve never restricted a coach. If the abuse is bad enough to restrict, it’s bad enough to eject. I will warn, for sure, but never restrict. Pack your bag and get on the bus Gus.
@@rayray4192 we have been instructed by our state office to use the warn, restrict, then eject template. Unless the actions are blatant. If you use the template the state office will unhold every ejection. If you do t, they very well may not. Now if you are ejecting coaches and the state doesn't uphold the ejection, now you have a coach that thinks he can do any thi g because the ejection has no teeth. No fine or game suspension associated with an ejection that isn't upheld.
@@bryonweatherford1772 I don’t care about your state template. A coach can be legally ejected at any time. I ejected a coach at 8:01 AM after one pitch. Bitch about the first pitch of the game and you got to pack your shit and go.
@@rayray4192 they just want you to warn restruct and eject. That way when you eject, the coach has basically ejected himself as he had 3 trys. But yes, the FED book supports that process. Unless it is a sever case then eject immediately.
…and remember brothers, if you are breaking up an on field conference at which a coach is present, you approach him from 90 degrees never from directly behind. You get close enough so they can hear you in a normal tone of voice and you ask, “Coach, what would you like to do?” If you are breaking up a players only conference, you simply come to the edge of the dirt circle, take off your mask and say firmly, “Ok players…here we go…” put your mask back on and return to your pre-pitch spot behind F2.
One example of malicious contact here that should never be allowed in baseball - a runner who runs to first base and spikes with the feet at a 1st baseman's ankles with the intentional intent to injure that fielder. Jackie Robinson was a victim of that. The guilty party of that should be ejected (not just be retired) AND suspended some games to make that offender learn that lesson.
Okay, but that's not correct by rule, obviously. Runner on second, catcher goes to pitcher to change up the signs. And you think you're going to charge a coach defensive conference? 🙄
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Use 7-3-1 proactively and you will never have a problem. I have enforced it ONCE in over 1,500 games. No need if you're proactive.
So true! We don't have to enforce it immediately, but usually mentioning it to the batter once gets the point across.
What constitutes a "written warning?" Is there a form to complete and hand to the coach/player?
No form or anything given to the coach. Write a note on a lineup card or piece of paper with the coach's name, the game situation, and briefly the violation.
After the game, you email it to your assignor with more detail
@@UmpireClassroomThank you.
Ejection reports write themselves. First offense, they get the hand as a stop sign. 2nd offense, coach this is a verbal warning for…xyz if you continue you will be ejected. 3rd offense, coach this is a written warning for…xyz if you continue you will be ejected. 4th offense, coach you are restricted to the dugout for the remainder of the game for…xyz if you continue you will be ejected. 5th offense, coach you are ejected. (By rule, if egregious enough on ANY offense, we can eject immediately.) By following this template and keeping notes of how things escalated, what was said and how you reacted…the ejection report writes itself. I’ve never written an ejection report of more than 4 sentences and I’ve never had a supervisor or state authority question whether I should have ejected the coach. They eject themselves, really.
@@1969ETypeyou've got too many steps there. the written warning IS the dugout restriction. officially there are only 3 steps: verbal warning (MUST use the word "Warning"), written warning with dugout restriction, and ejection. anything else may be a courtesy and good game management that keeps a coach in the game, or may be bad game management that lets a situation escalate when the coach should be gone already.
(also, there should only be one "if you continue you will be ejected"; you've got four of them, but apparently didn't mean it)
@@davej3781 No, I don’t have too many steps. You know how I know that? Because my umpire brothers who trained me and my umpires brothers who sign my checks…THAT is how they were told by our state athletic association to manage progressive discipline. Your mileage may vary…
The point is not to hunt ejections. The point is to shut down the behavior and complete the baseball game. We also have rules under FED that allow us to immediately restrict or even immediately eject any coach who leaves a base coach’s box or the dugout to dispute umpire judgement. So, please…don’t fret yourself. We handle our market.
Correct me if i am wrong, you state that by rule, a player cannot be restricted to the dugout, other than illegal subs. However, the POE specifically states that an offender may be warned verbally, written (which involves restriction), or ejected. This is based on rule 3-3-1f., which is when a coach, PLAYER, substitute, attendant, or bench personnel shall not
f. Commit any unsportmanlike act to include but not limited to items 1-7. Item 2 happens to be profanity. The Note after this rule tells you the penalty is the umpire may warn the offender, if warning is written, offender is restricted.
Sounds like Patrick dropped the ball. The written warning is effective because everyone sees you take out your line- up card holder- write the warning down, and then warn the coach and restrict the coach to his dugout. The demonstrative act is good communication. I’ve never restricted a coach. If the abuse is bad enough to restrict, it’s bad enough to eject. I will warn, for sure, but never restrict. Pack your bag and get on the bus Gus.
@@rayray4192 we have been instructed by our state office to use the warn, restrict, then eject template. Unless the actions are blatant. If you use the template the state office will unhold every ejection. If you do t, they very well may not. Now if you are ejecting coaches and the state doesn't uphold the ejection, now you have a coach that thinks he can do any thi g because the ejection has no teeth. No fine or game suspension associated with an ejection that isn't upheld.
@@bryonweatherford1772 I don’t care about your state template. A coach can be legally ejected at any time. I ejected a coach at 8:01 AM after one pitch. Bitch about the first pitch of the game and you got to pack your shit and go.
@@bryonweatherford1772 where is your state template in the Federation rule book?
@@rayray4192 they just want you to warn restruct and eject. That way when you eject, the coach has basically ejected himself as he had 3 trys. But yes, the FED book supports that process. Unless it is a sever case then eject immediately.
…and remember brothers, if you are breaking up an on field conference at which a coach is present, you approach him from 90 degrees never from directly behind. You get close enough so they can hear you in a normal tone of voice and you ask, “Coach, what would you like to do?” If you are breaking up a players only conference, you simply come to the edge of the dirt circle, take off your mask and say firmly, “Ok players…here we go…” put your mask back on and return to your pre-pitch spot behind F2.
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One example of malicious contact here that should never be allowed in baseball - a runner who runs to first base and spikes with the feet at a 1st baseman's ankles with the intentional intent to injure that fielder.
Jackie Robinson was a victim of that.
The guilty party of that should be ejected (not just be retired) AND suspended some games to make that offender learn that lesson.
Easy fix for time management….player calls time defensively … count as a defensive conference
Okay, but that's not correct by rule, obviously.
Runner on second, catcher goes to pitcher to change up the signs. And you think you're going to charge a coach defensive conference? 🙄
@@MH-Tesla I know… I suggest changing the rule
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