I have to say that what makes this product really useful is the ability to use bits and sockets. This will make my job easier. About the weaknesses, I can just use it manually to start, then push the button. I think it is the right way to use any cordless ratchet.
A Japan made USB electric bit ratchet? That is so, so cool! I've been using the Vessel electric screwdriver (280/2Nm) all over the house for electrical. It's so useful, it's like a dream.
I like this a lot actually. I does what i would like my milwaukee would do. Thighten and loosen by hand and then spin the rest FAST free with the push of a button. The switchen socket for the directions makes it super neat for thight spaces where i usually have to do it by hand and the milwaukee is to big for
That was quick! Mine will be here end of week. You make a lot of valid points. I can see this being useful for minor assembly work with common fastener types and light automotive work. Keep in mind this is their first attempt at a power ratchet as corded, electric assembly screwdrivers are what they are known for in the manufacturing industry. I think they will learn from this and make a gen 2 / gen 3 with more power and better work flow performance like they are doing with the dragon ball line of light cordless screwdrivers. Great job on the video and thanks for your feedback.
@@FLASH-lu6ti I used Blackship, a third party shippping company located in Yokohama. BZEUG has done a few video's on how to setup an account and how this works. After the first few go arounds, this is super easy. Blackship is awesome!
I love the concept of this, however i think it needs some refining. I can just imagine how annoying it must be to constantly have to switch the sockets around with their adaptors to tighten and loosen.
A great first try. but they have left themselves open for the competition to come in, and improved almost everything about the ratchet. Ryobi has a nice small battery platform, so does any other major brand.
I know somw of the other wood handle rachet sets at least part of them including sockets and extensions were made in China/Taiwan. They have a loose standing of made in Japan like that bit set you showed case is made in China. That being said it should have been 1/4 in drive and when I get it I probably use use a gearwrench 1/4 in square adapter. It has a nub out the back that you could push to change direction easly and came with the bit rachets. This is a pure thread runner and I think in the right context it's great. I do wonder if it can handle 1/4 and 5/16 nylock nuts maybe test that for us? Still jealous you got it already and looking forward to getting it! Gearwrench 81038 is the adapter if you wanna try it for me.
It should definitely have come with a 1/4" adapter and 4-14mm sockets. I doubt it will do nylock nuts. I have ordered the 1/4" ryobi 4v ratchet, wonder how they will compare. May have to order the vessel as well to test them both 😂
Great review! Thanks for taking your time, explaining in depth. I was going to buy this as soon asbthey were back in stock...Think ill wait for an updated version or the harbor freight version. 😅
I like your presentation, detailed as always. Interesting tool, but with weak points and torque. Maybe the gen2 will be better. This one is for very light work. The speed is ok.
Kinda a let down for two reasons- Not toggle for forward and reverse, not everything is made in Japan. Might wait for version 2.0 to drop to see if they make those improvements.
I think Japan has less stringent restrictions on “made in” claims than the USA. TONE ratchets come from Taiwan same as Carlyle and other brands but are labeled Japan. It is likely imported and assembled back in Japan before going to retail. USA requires “significant transformation” which could just entail chrome plating stamping and assembly for brands like Snap-On that share forging with Bahco.
Thoes tone compacts that arnt rebuildable are scary close to that one off duralast that people love. The duralast was made in Taiwan the tone is claimed made in Japan but look exactly the same.
I just ordered one from japan, I'm not worried about the torque as long as it's enough to spin the bolt in/out after being broken loose. Should make doing timing chain jobs on FWD's and stuff like that way less annoying
Or dash/interior work. Perfect for plugs,oil pan bolts/nuts. Or starting any nut/bolt where's it's hard to get at, it doesn't have enough power to strip the threads. This tool would make my life easier and make me more money ..People think a cheap little ratchet gonna break loose a lug nut.
That 1/4 hex to 3/8 square adaptor is really low profile, if they make a 1/4 hex to 1/4 square version I want one to convert my bit ratchet! Edit: I should have watched to the end, that Tone adaptor also looks very low profile and has decent retention. I've googled but can't find it, what's the part number, or did you cover it in a video already?
I have an old 1980s I think Black and Decker electric ratchet that is 1/4" it is bigger than this tool for sure but it has some good power and a normal anvil with directional control. Would be awesome if Vessel came out with a modern version of it. BOY would I buy that fast or what
The weak detent makes sense in that you don't want the adapter coming out every time you change socket, I'm assuming you can press your thumb on the backside to pop the adapter out with the socket attached to change direction. Would have been better if they had bundled it with some nut driver style 1/4" drive sockets, some low profile ones would be a unique selling point. Does it have enough torque to spin a nylon locking nut, and up to what size?
is there similar product in the market that comes with a hex drive? the closest I can find is the Hercules 1/4 electric ratchet that fits my needs, slim and long reach to work in very narrow spaces.
I have the M12 brushed ratchet. It’s way, way larger. You rotate a thing on the back of the head to change directions. It’s got a variable speed trigger. It’s so much larger, and doesn’t accept hex bits. I can’t imagine really using both of them for the same thing.
The screwdriver was a great deal at around 50 Euro. This looks undercooked and would cost around 100 Euro. I like that they're trying to make a small electronic ratchet and made it strong enough for 60Nm of torque, but it also looks like it could get stuck if a bolt has some friction to it, the ratchet has no center locked position for fine adjustment and a weird button placement. Vim Tools just came out with a ratchet that can be converted to a t-handle and that has a speed sleeve, maybe that's the way to go for a small, speedy ratchet until Vessel irons out those kinks?
Think of the dreaded bolt that is in a tight spot and is too tight to do up by hand but too loose for ratchet to work. This one would probably just stop working when you want it the most lol.
Very ambitious trying to make an electric ratchet the same size as a normal one but i think if they would have made it a bit bigger to make it reversible it would be twice the tool. Might be good for a bike mechanic paired with 1/4 sized sockets with sizes below 8mm. About 1/50th the torque of Milwaukee's cheapest brushed ratchet (250 rpm at 35ftlbs or 47.5nm)
I do like Vessel, and I also like ratchets, so this is right up my weird alley. I've been waiting to see which company would start making electric ratchet that look more like regular ones. It's another cool little plaything I may need. Eh, maybe not. Looks like the fitments are too loose and wobbly for me.
Wera sockets are very different. They have additional milling on them and they claim to be made in the Czech Republic. What is similar is the knurling and the color band but that's about it.
As much as i want it, it just doesn’t have enough torque on the electric mode for me to justify a purchase. Their compo handle ratchets are quite nice however
The main problem with this design is the lack of reversing. In the circumstances this would be most useful, removing a bolt or nut in a low clearance situation you'll find yourself between a rock and a hard place with no way to run the fastener back in to get unstuck.
Very cool, very cute to see. But unfortunately, this seems more like a consumer gimmick than a professional tool. Fingers crossed for V2 having the details right, if they make a V2. Re: the sockets, I was thinking it would be cool if they collaborated with Ko-ken or KTC. But all in all, I think getting everything right + collaborating with another brand would double the price at least.
That's an interesting tool. I'm not sure what Vessel is really used for. Their powered Screwdrivers are pretty weak, too. Maybe electronic work? Build computers, etc. But then you throw this tool in the mix... an extremely low torque 3/8 drive. Very weird. Thanks for the video.
I’ve been wanting something like this for awhile. Low profile hex, electric. The lack of speed control means it will be really aggressive on screws in plastic. And the lack of forward and reverse is going to annoy me to no end. Sadly, gonna have to take a pass.
I'm a heavy duty diesel mechanic in a shop of 30 guys. Me and the boys all use this ratchet daily building and rebuilding DD15s Detroits and I SX15 Cummins. All of us except for Danny but he's a fruit cake, wears skinny jeans and those weirdo ear piercings. Anyway that's a man's man tool you got there champ.
Danny says you're an over compensating bore who's suffering with fragile masculinity and low self esteem. No doubt you drive a big pick up and tell everyone who'll listen how alpha male you are. Stop trying so hard, Joey boy.
If it isn't stamped with a COO, you know that means that it's not made anywhere worth stamping. It's frustrating because the whole kit is labeled made in Japan. It worries me that because Japanese tools are becoming so popular and sought after, that they might start cutting corners and quality could take a hit. I truly hope that does not become the case. Like another reviewer mentioned, this item certainly needs some work.
If it isn't stamped, you know that means that it's not made anywhere worth stamping. It's frustrating because the whole kit is labeled made in Japan. It worries me that because Japanese tools are becoming so popular and sought after, that they might start cutting corners and quality could take a hit. I truly hope that does not become the case. Like another reviewer mentioned, this item certainly needs some work.
The whole thing is not made in Japan Maybe the bits are They are made in Taiwan and China and being assembled in Japan I know all the factory making this product
You're review stoppede from my impulse to buy this thing. Thank you
I have to say that what makes this product really useful is the ability to use bits and sockets. This will make my job easier. About the weaknesses, I can just use it manually to start, then push the button. I think it is the right way to use any cordless ratchet.
I want one for the junk i work on. would be great for tight spots.
A Japan made USB electric bit ratchet? That is so, so cool! I've been using the Vessel electric screwdriver (280/2Nm) all over the house for electrical. It's so useful, it's like a dream.
I like this a lot actually. I does what i would like my milwaukee would do. Thighten and loosen by hand and then spin the rest FAST free with the push of a button. The switchen socket for the directions makes it super neat for thight spaces where i usually have to do it by hand and the milwaukee is to big for
Which Milwaukee do you have? I have the high speed 3/8” and I love it but it is unformfortable to change directions without the aftermarket switch
That was quick! Mine will be here end of week. You make a lot of valid points. I can see this being useful for minor assembly work with common fastener types and light automotive work. Keep in mind this is their first attempt at a power ratchet as corded, electric assembly screwdrivers are what they are known for in the manufacturing industry. I think they will learn from this and make a gen 2 / gen 3 with more power and better work flow performance like they are doing with the dragon ball line of light cordless screwdrivers. Great job on the video and thanks for your feedback.
Hey how did you get yours, like the whole adding ur address process on Amazon for Japan?
@@FLASH-lu6ti I used Blackship, a third party shippping company located in Yokohama. BZEUG has done a few video's on how to setup an account and how this works. After the first few go arounds, this is super easy. Blackship is awesome!
Mechanism and also the 3/8" Adapter looks like the Deen Rotary Ratchet (which looks extremley similar to beta, facom and a lot of others)
It's probably a similar license/modified design. Deen doesn't own the design and they are just a brand name. Regardless it's super cool.
I love the concept of this, however i think it needs some refining. I can just imagine how annoying it must be to constantly have to switch the sockets around with their adaptors to tighten and loosen.
Dealbreaker for me. I'm fine with my bigger Makita 18V ratchet. It has an adapter to switch between 1/4" and 3/8" as well.
A great first try. but they have left themselves open for the competition to come in, and improved almost everything about the ratchet. Ryobi has a nice small battery platform, so does any other major brand.
It seems to be a neat, light-duty ratchet.
I know somw of the other wood handle rachet sets at least part of them including sockets and extensions were made in China/Taiwan. They have a loose standing of made in Japan like that bit set you showed case is made in China. That being said it should have been 1/4 in drive and when I get it I probably use use a gearwrench 1/4 in square adapter. It has a nub out the back that you could push to change direction easly and came with the bit rachets. This is a pure thread runner and I think in the right context it's great. I do wonder if it can handle 1/4 and 5/16 nylock nuts maybe test that for us? Still jealous you got it already and looking forward to getting it! Gearwrench 81038 is the adapter if you wanna try it for me.
It should definitely have come with a 1/4" adapter and 4-14mm sockets. I doubt it will do nylock nuts. I have ordered the 1/4" ryobi 4v ratchet, wonder how they will compare. May have to order the vessel as well to test them both 😂
Great review! Thanks for taking your time, explaining in depth. I was going to buy this as soon asbthey were back in stock...Think ill wait for an updated version or the harbor freight version. 😅
Great video and review! Thanks!
I like your presentation, detailed as always. Interesting tool, but with weak points and torque. Maybe the gen2 will be better. This one is for very light work. The speed is ok.
Really wish they would have made it passthru style.
Yeah they're probably missing about a quarter of the market that would find such a thing worth carrying.
Kinda a let down for two reasons- Not toggle for forward and reverse, not everything is made in Japan. Might wait for version 2.0 to drop to see if they make those improvements.
I think Japan has less stringent restrictions on “made in” claims than the USA. TONE ratchets come from Taiwan same as Carlyle and other brands but are labeled Japan. It is likely imported and assembled back in Japan before going to retail. USA requires “significant transformation” which could just entail chrome plating stamping and assembly for brands like Snap-On that share forging with Bahco.
Thoes tone compacts that arnt rebuildable are scary close to that one off duralast that people love. The duralast was made in Taiwan the tone is claimed made in Japan but look exactly the same.
I just ordered one from japan, I'm not worried about the torque as long as it's enough to spin the bolt in/out after being broken loose. Should make doing timing chain jobs on FWD's and stuff like that way less annoying
this is the exact reason i was looking at this lol
Or dash/interior work. Perfect for plugs,oil pan bolts/nuts. Or starting any nut/bolt where's it's hard to get at, it doesn't have enough power to strip the threads. This tool would make my life easier and make me more money ..People think a cheap little ratchet gonna break loose a lug nut.
Vessel has released a version of the 220+ for the US market. Looks like it will take E6 bits, 5 included. Amazon has it priced around $100.
That 1/4 hex to 3/8 square adaptor is really low profile, if they make a 1/4 hex to 1/4 square version I want one to convert my bit ratchet!
Edit: I should have watched to the end, that Tone adaptor also looks very low profile and has decent retention. I've googled but can't find it, what's the part number, or did you cover it in a video already?
I have the Facom ... I can't really see a place for this.
I have an old 1980s I think Black and Decker electric ratchet that is 1/4" it is bigger than this tool for sure but it has some good power and a normal anvil with directional control. Would be awesome if Vessel came out with a modern version of it. BOY would I buy that fast or what
shame i cant find it in uk or anywhere!
The low torque doesn't really bother me since this is obviously meant for hand tightening. The retention is obnoxious, though.
The weak detent makes sense in that you don't want the adapter coming out every time you change socket, I'm assuming you can press your thumb on the backside to pop the adapter out with the socket attached to change direction. Would have been better if they had bundled it with some nut driver style 1/4" drive sockets, some low profile ones would be a unique selling point. Does it have enough torque to spin a nylon locking nut, and up to what size?
Yea that's my thought is a nylock nut too much for the powered side if so that could be limiting.
is there similar product in the market that comes with a hex drive? the closest I can find is the Hercules 1/4 electric ratchet that fits my needs, slim and long reach to work in very narrow spaces.
This is a review I was waiting for! Is there any other small slim electric ratchet that is more accurate in torque?
That thing would be great for undoing the collar on my pet flea.
if you've used one of the other battery ratchets how does it compare? Like the m12.
I have the M12 brushed ratchet. It’s way, way larger. You rotate a thing on the back of the head to change directions.
It’s got a variable speed trigger.
It’s so much larger, and doesn’t accept hex bits. I can’t imagine really using both of them for the same thing.
I have the brushed m12 too. I use 1/4” hex adapter for driving torx bits etc.
This is such a strange product. It seems like it’s not meant to be used in a shop.
Torque specs
No 1/4 adapter
Please make a video trying different hex to square adapters with this thing until you find one that has acceptable hold
Where do I get one bro I can’t find it online
That looks like the TONE CR3000T Electric Ratchet Handle 3/8, shame that neither are pass through.
Oh, interesting. I didn't know about the TONE electric ratchet.
How do you order? Do I have a make a Japan Amazon account?
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The screwdriver was a great deal at around 50 Euro. This looks undercooked and would cost around 100 Euro. I like that they're trying to make a small electronic ratchet and made it strong enough for 60Nm of torque, but it also looks like it could get stuck if a bolt has some friction to it, the ratchet has no center locked position for fine adjustment and a weird button placement.
Vim Tools just came out with a ratchet that can be converted to a t-handle and that has a speed sleeve, maybe that's the way to go for a small, speedy ratchet until Vessel irons out those kinks?
Think of the dreaded bolt that is in a tight spot and is too tight to do up by hand but too loose for ratchet to work. This one would probably just stop working when you want it the most lol.
Very ambitious trying to make an electric ratchet the same size as a normal one but i think if they would have made it a bit bigger to make it reversible it would be twice the tool. Might be good for a bike mechanic paired with 1/4 sized sockets with sizes below 8mm. About 1/50th the torque of Milwaukee's cheapest brushed ratchet (250 rpm at 35ftlbs or 47.5nm)
I do like Vessel, and I also like ratchets, so this is right up my weird alley. I've been waiting to see which company would start making electric ratchet that look more like regular ones. It's another cool little plaything I may need. Eh, maybe not. Looks like the fitments are too loose and wobbly for me.
The finish on those sockets looks near identical to GedoreRED, Proxxon, Wera, etc.. all of which are made by the same factory in Taiwan.
Wera sockets are very different. They have additional milling on them and they claim to be made in the Czech Republic. What is similar is the knurling and the color band but that's about it.
As much as i want it, it just doesn’t have enough torque on the electric mode for me to justify a purchase. Their compo handle ratchets are quite nice however
It currently shows out of stock. What's the price?
For the entire set I paid:
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Shipping & Handling:￥4,773
Total:￥35,160
We’re did you get it from
Amazon Japan. Links in the description.
The main problem with this design is the lack of reversing. In the circumstances this would be most useful, removing a bolt or nut in a low clearance situation you'll find yourself between a rock and a hard place with no way to run the fastener back in to get unstuck.
Very cool, very cute to see. But unfortunately, this seems more like a consumer gimmick than a professional tool. Fingers crossed for V2 having the details right, if they make a V2.
Re: the sockets, I was thinking it would be cool if they collaborated with Ko-ken or KTC. But all in all, I think getting everything right + collaborating with another brand would double the price at least.
That's an interesting tool. I'm not sure what Vessel is really used for. Their powered Screwdrivers are pretty weak, too. Maybe electronic work? Build computers, etc. But then you throw this tool in the mix... an extremely low torque 3/8 drive. Very weird. Thanks for the video.
I'm going to say that the technology just isn't there yet.
I’ve been wanting something like this for awhile. Low profile hex, electric.
The lack of speed control means it will be really aggressive on screws in plastic.
And the lack of forward and reverse is going to annoy me to no end.
Sadly, gonna have to take a pass.
I'm a heavy duty diesel mechanic in a shop of 30 guys. Me and the boys all use this ratchet daily building and rebuilding DD15s Detroits and I SX15 Cummins. All of us except for Danny but he's a fruit cake, wears skinny jeans and those weirdo ear piercings. Anyway that's a man's man tool you got there champ.
Danny says you're an over compensating bore who's suffering with fragile masculinity and low self esteem. No doubt you drive a big pick up and tell everyone who'll listen how alpha male you are. Stop trying so hard, Joey boy.
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Tonka or Hot Wheels?
Quality seems a little underwhelming
If it isn't stamped with a COO, you know that means that it's not made anywhere worth stamping. It's frustrating because the whole kit is labeled made in Japan. It worries me that because Japanese tools are becoming so popular and sought after, that they might start cutting corners and quality could take a hit. I truly hope that does not become the case. Like another reviewer mentioned, this item certainly needs some work.
If it isn't stamped, you know that means that it's not made anywhere worth stamping. It's frustrating because the whole kit is labeled made in Japan. It worries me that because Japanese tools are becoming so popular and sought after, that they might start cutting corners and quality could take a hit. I truly hope that does not become the case. Like another reviewer mentioned, this item certainly needs some work.
Probably a bicycle tool
It's out of stock
It sounds like a wind up toy
What a bummer I'm a vessel fan boy but can't vibe with any of their power stuff.
The whole thing is not made in Japan
Maybe the bits are
They are made in Taiwan and China and being assembled in Japan
I know all the factory making this product
Thoroughly Unimpressed !
Nice review. Not impressed with the quality.