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Gunn said ",,,Loved comics" Loved is past tense BTW. He like's very off center and irreverent comics and characters in many cases bends characters into that mold. That's why he hasn't been loved by in large for taking on this job. IMHO he only made one good comic book film and now sadly I'm looking at that one as a fluke and that was the first Guardians of the Galaxy. This first slate is just not good. By the way. Snyder wasn't trying to "catch up to the Marvel movies. The greedy executives were just coveting what was on another companies plate and ruined what they had. Gunn is in no way fixing it. It is the Gunn verse because he and his partner created the slate not the director or writer. The Director whomever THEY pick still has to paly in the continuity. They are shackled. This is not gonna work. They need to do a COMPLETE reboot. None of these on this slate will make a billion is my prediction.
I really don’t understand how some people can’t see that Dc is in the best position it’s been in in a while, or probably ever. They have 3 things there last regime didn’t: structure, leadership, and a plan. 2 people who are running a studio who are good at their respective jobs, and actually are out for the best interest of the universe. This was the best case scenario for DC. And I can’t wait to see where it goes.
Because I loved the Snyderverse that's why and I don't want a new Batman again when we have Robert Pattinson playing an amazing version of the character
@@SRT_IncTX The Snyderverse failed. I liked aspects of it, but it failed. Just cause you loved it doesn’t mean it didn’t have problems. Do I love there being 2 Batman? Yes and no. Wish there was a definitive, but I’ll take it. They’re going about it the best they can with what they have. You don’t have to pay attention to what they’re doing if the Snyderverse being gone hurts that badly. And really, You didn’t fight for the Snyderverse nearly as much as you all claim you did. If that were the case, MOS, BVS, Black Adam, and JL would’ve been more successful. But they weren’t. Move on, or continue wishing a broken universe could’ve been salvaged by watching everything snyder made since it happened already.
@@NoirNameless I literally watched all in theaters and bought them. I can't give them millions I don't have lol. We all know the characters so the way Snyder went about it to me was good. WB sadly got in their own way. The one thing keeping me from having hope I'm the new universe is Batman brave and the bold being more child friendly. Matt reaves made a hell of a movie and he deserves to continue in the main continuity. And in my opinion is good enough for kids to watch as well. I don't need kiddy Batman.
@@SRT_IncTX I’d agree with you there, we already had Robert Pattison’s Batman on screen we didn’t need another Batman, we needed Supes and the other league in Matt Reeves universe
#securethecrisps The different tones is exactly what comic book movies need in my opinion. I think the new slate offers a ton of promise with the variety of characters and stories referenced by Gunn during the announcement. Plus a Swamp Thing horror film! Lets Go!
I trust James Gunn.. I really do think he’s going to make a difference with DC massively. Letting directors have their vision is so important into the material that they have. My only concern is the amount of humor this universe will get, the humor needs to be very subtle and I hope each director gets that.
Give him a chance. His a proven talent. Personally I think the new project choices are great. Supes, Brave and the bold, booster gold, supergirl, and Lanterns. What's the problem. The other choices I'm OK with.
I completely agree with boba here, let's let Gunn actually make some stuff or at least get a trailer or two out before we jump the "Gunn" and assume it'll be bad.
what i love about Gunn is that he actually loves comics and isn't ashamed many people love comic book characters, but when it comes to adapting them to film a lot of them are just embarrassed of the medium and try to distance the fact that they're essentially making comic book movies
I am very excited for the changes that JG is bringing to the DCU. At the very least they have direction now that never existed before and there is no one to throw interference into the mix as had been done on past films. Just listen to Kevin Smith talk about his experience with WB if you want to know what kind of idiots use to run that company. The more I hear about Gunn's approach to all this, the more optimistic I have been for the future of DC.
If James Gunn gets this right, it would not only change the way studios make superhero movies, but movies as a whole. Having these movies be different can avoid superhero fatigue and show that people don't want universes, they want to watch movies. Marvel has been failing as for everyone trying to replicate marvel.
I think we should at least give James a chance. He has potential. I mean yes its a shame Calvil isn't casted, but that doesn't mean he could return for an elseworlds project. Getting tired of the fire James Gunn garbage. There is hope, we just got to give him a chance. Rn the projects seems interesting. Just voicing my opinion.
What do you think about James Gunn writing projects but not directing them? I love his writing and he's clearly prolific at it but directing takes a LOT of time and I worry that if he tries to do too much (writing, directing, Co-CEO of the entire DC Studios) it will push projects back which will frustrate everyone. But if he sticks to writing the scripts and then allowing others to direct the projects (with his oversight, of course) then he can have as much control over the story, tone and development as possible while still allowing others to put their imprint on it via directing and projects can come out on time.
And your point is? I don’t mean to antagonize you and I mean this with respect, but what are you implying here? Now, to counteract your last premise and play devil’s advocate, is it more important to construct a film slate for DC fans or one that has mass appeal? Especially considering that WB is struggling financially at the moment? I wish Gunn all the luck with his plan, but it does concern me that is not going to work out as he wants given that many of the projects announced may not bring the necessary cash to sustain it
Cher’s Wigmaker - point is Snyderverse isn’t a reflection of what those characters are.. the fans of the Snyderverse are fans of Snyder as much as they are DC comics and characters
You just realized this. I knew this the second they hired on Nolan and Snyder to make DC cinema. If you just listen to them.. you’ll quickly realize they don’t know much about what they are “adapting” and some cases it’s beyond indifference and straight up dislike what the characters are. You should’ve known this at the latest after MoS that the creators and the fans of that project don’t actually like DC at all or even know anything about it… they just like the power sets and wanna see hard punches, super speed, and murder. They want superpowered action figures and not the DC characters (HEROES).
@BobaTalks YOU ARE PREACHING IN THIS DAMN VIDEO 🤣🤣🤣 I totally agree the decision of making Gunn being one of the Heads of the DCU is not a bad a decision AT ALL! He definitely does deserve this role and after his story I do have faith in him. I think people need to let them work and we can judge later. It really gave me real excitement when he talk about every writer and Director for the different projects are gonna be able to do their own thing because that’s EXACTLY how it is in the comics 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾. Which is huge first step in the right direction, unlike the MCU which all there movies feel and setup the same. I still think he could’ve used bigger Ip’s to help Batman and Superman, however he did kill it with Guardians and Suicide Squad, so I’m still not worried lol. I truly can’t wait
The same mistakes aren't being made and people need to know that. Gunn is creating the foundation of the DC Universe to step into while at the same time not repeating the same things we've seen before and giving the people what they deserve. Which means a Superman with longevity, Batman with the Bat Family finally on the big screen, new elements like The Authority and Creature Commandos to expand the DCU and create new interest and storyline, background storyboarding that support the Gods and Monsters theme of the first chapter and much more. I just finished reading Justice League: The Darkseid War and in that, they mention the phrase, "Gods and Monsters". This chapter is a full-on establishing of the DCU and setting up for a cohseive saga that is fresh for our characters we know and love. All good things. Gunn certainly has to prove himself but ultimately Gunn is giving the cinematic DCU what it needs, injecting what he does best, and writing the vision and making it plain. Good video. Stay hopeful my DC friends.
I love the approach to the new Wonder Woman franchise. Paradise Lost should definitely take inspo from Wonder Woman: Historia books for Diana’s origin and Phil Jimenez’s arc where the Bana-Mighdall Amazon tribe fought with Themyscirans. Maybe this show will be the origin of the other tribe(s) and how they split from the island
One thing that I personally wanted to see is Bruce and Dick go against the Joker… a lot of people want to see this!! As excited as I am about this new DCU, man it’s just some things that I want to see in my life time.
Hey boba another great video. I was just wandering what are some more obscure DC characters that you would like to see, or even can imagine that we get to see introduced into this new universe somewhere down the line? Cheers and keep it up!
There were talks of Geoff Johns and Greg Berlanti having James Gunn and Peter Safran's jobs and I fear that they got rid of the competition when they took over.
I'm cautiously optimistic for James Gunn's DCU. I hope it's successful and I hope we'll see the best possible versions of these characters/stories. I feel like we're all witnessing the (re)birth of the DCU and we're going to be a part of that journey.
When people complain about origin story or early career stories I don’t think they realize there is time to get to the stories they want told, the main issue I had with Snyder was that since Batman was so old everything happened and they were already talking about his replacements there was no build up for emotional stories
Yessssss. People are complaining about the age difference of batman and superman in this universe but they forget Superman and Batman met for the first time when Batman was Dark Knight Returns batman
What if JG is setting up The Batman Who Laughs: The Infected. Keeping Shazam and Blue Beatle. Adding Supergirl and the Bat family. It would be a completely different direction. 🤷🏻♂️. Time will tell.
I'm down for the future they are trying to do!! Also as a Snyder fan!!! Just want some awesome stories and movies to go with my love for the DC universe!!!
Gunn/Safran want to create something fun and exciting. They are willing to bring new ideas and characters to screen. But for some reason there are fans who just can’t let go of the past. They’re like some guy who gets introduced to someone new then spends all their time talking about their past relationship.
It never made sense nor was it ever explained why the heroes were hiding or in the shadows in the last decade or so. Wonder Woman was active in World War I, but destroyed cameras to act in secret for decades. Why!? Batman has a reason to conceal and/or use shadows to evoke fear- that’s not the standard for every DC character. I love the feel of a bigger universe with various aspects being displayed. DC has some wonderful character which have survived for decades without being held up by Batman. The characters have strong stories and personalities that drive the universe. Bring on good stories!
I think the biggest thing for this universe is that if he is going to keep characters from the snyderverse he should only keep minor characters ie waller, maybe harley quinn, etc, but if they keep jason mamoa and ezra miller but get rid of the rest it is extremely unfair because they are all around the same age with the exception of miller soi they cant use that excuse. I really think that they need to recast every major character or else there is absolutely zero reason to recast superman and batman but keep the rest. edit- you made a valid point where ben affleck probs wouldn't want to sign a long deal. I think you're right however I do think henry cavill would be down. I am excited for it but apprehensive.
Zaslov is definitely getting a bang for his buck hiring Gunn and what’s his name. Gunn should change his name to “Hmmm, wonder who should write the script for this thing??? Ahhhhh just messing with ya, you know it’s going to be me!”
i really dig the plan, but i just can't stop thinking going straight to damian is such a wasted opportunity. sure you can do all the robins later, but how batman treats each very differently across very different periods in his career is such an important aspect of the family. what will it matter when damian has a chip on his shoulder because he sees dick as the golden boy? i know, you know, the remaining 7 billion people don't. i hate how we keep stripping the batman concept of the key components that make him so much better in comics
As a fellow Missourian (Chiefs Kingdom). I will give him the benefit of the doubt. But, Kansas City hates St. Louis. So if turns out to be horrible. We will destroy St. Louis
No. All the real places in our world exist in there’s. Think of it like The Real World + More. It’s not a completely fantasy world, it’s the real world at the base then it’s layered and added to with a series of fictional places and elements. The difference between them and Marvel is tht DC uses its cities (the lot of fictional ones) as characters too, right along with their fictional celebrities and heroes. It’s still America, it just America has a few more big cities and altered history than what we are used to in the real world. Same with a few fictional countries and places and world history.
It's crazy that the MCU is the most successful franchise in the history of cinema-- more billion dollar films than any other and more total and worldwide gross and all based on superheroes--- that blows my mind! No one would've guessed that to be the case 15 yrs ago! WB/DC saw all that happening and asked the right questions, "why can't we have similar success"-- of course the execution was wrong and the rest is history! First off I don't get ur criticisms of the MCU being all the same-- Spider-Man trilogy, Captain America trilogy and the Thor trilogy are nothing alike and all have totally different themes. Same goes with Eternals, Shang Chi and Wakanda Forever-- all very u IW ur feels. And I can post for u director after director all saying they were free to create the movie/show they wanted and weren't part of a machine contrary to false popular beliefs. No need to talk down the MCU to prop up DCU-- I love both and hate when peeps do that and this isn't ur first video doing that! As for the new SC slate I say bring it on-- sounds super exciting a new fresh start! I wishing them all the luck and most looking forward to the Green Lantern show!! Let's GOOOO!!!
I'm really hopeful for this because they seem to have learned a lot from mistakes made with the Snyderverse. Let me just say I respect Snyder as a director and I love a lot of his work outside of these movies but looking at the snyderverse his best film is Man of Steel by far and I think that's because as much as Snyder may have respect for Batman as a character he doesn't seem to like him much. Having Batman be a killer from the beginning is like an elseworlds approach to the character and what they should have done is have Snyder start on Man of Steel 2 while Ben Affleck could make his own Batman movie. Now with Reeves he said before he wanted to make The Batman a personal and grounded story if the studio then force him to add superman the least grounded character there is, literally and figuratively, it would harm his vision. Reeves would also just refuse, he said that during his pitch to WB for The Batman he told the executives "I respect that Batman is your property so if you don't like my pitch don't hire me find someone else but if you hire me leave me alone to do what I think is best" I'm paraphrasing there but that was the jist of it. The way things are happening now in the DCU is a much more logical and cleaner way to build a universe you have a team of people with a clear vision for the universe then directors and actors can come in and maybe put their twist on it but they only come in if they fit the wider scheme of things rather than trying to push a director into building an entire universe in 4 movies all by themselves.
I can't understand all this sensible, rational talk you're spewing. Cautious optimism? Let's not condemn it until we see a film or two? What is all this guarded hope I'm hearing? So confusing to hear a cautiously positive attitude instead of a leap to judgement!
Honestly, The ZACK SNYDER DCEU was GREAT and if only it could have been TOTALLY GREENLIGHTED but since it couldn't continue for various reasons and they dropped the ball on SUPERMAN and BATMAN continuing with those actors -- (I love THE BATMAN/REEVES) But that's an ELSEWORLD'S FILM and not the regular BATMAN figure; therefore, too much time had elapsed, WARNER BROS went against THE SNYDER and that's not a good idea: then new ownership came in but now we have a great brand new opportunity (let's be thankful) with two incredibly creative and wonderful guys. Let's see the dawning light of greatness on the horizon: it's HERE!
The comment from James Gunn is very telling, and simultaneously the problem with how modern people think about Superman... he is more of an ideal than a character that people want to see and follow along. Watching him in action is only interesting for a few moments before it gets boring because it's so idealized... and idealized characters...can be very boring because they are predictable. That is part of the reason why some people gravitated towards the Snyderverse Superman because they tried to change him a bit from the classic ideal of Superman
The problem is that we've heard all this before... even though I loved Peacemaker quite a bit, his "The Suicide Squad" failed to move me honestly and didn't do that well in the Box Office so this could go either way for DC to have him helm DC entertainment
Hey Boba, We are all talking about the new slate, but I feel like we are pretending to be excited. When I heard the highly anticipated Gunn announcement my first reaction was.... Eh.🫤 Am I wrong for thinking that? Is these obscure projects really something to be excited about?
Not at all. There's been a lot of ups and down with DC over the past several years when it comes to a connected universe. I think for a lot of people they're getting to a near point of apathy, and as I go on to mention in the video, they'll needs to see it to believe it with some of these projects. It would be interesting to know what you think would have excited you though?
@@BobaTalks So ive always been a DC fanatic since i was a kid, so obviously I thought that there would be the trinity FOR SURE. But I guess i was wrong. I love Green Lantern so i wished that wouldve been a movie, And for the most part, these all seem like characters that nobody besides for hardcore fans know.... its just a wierd strategy and I was hoping for more heavy hitters i suppose.
@@BobaTalks I think it looks exact opposite. It looks bland and that's good cause if it becomes banger it will be considered as a comeback from bottom. Having marginal hype is best thing given what happened to Star wars and MCU. Even I remember not many people were excited for TDK trilogy but we got better than expected. Everyone was simping Clooney's Batman before movie dropped and we all know that it almost killed the franchise. Everything does not need to be hyped. it could be subtle and something good to watch And even to revisit
I love the approach to the new Wonder Woman franchise. Paradise Lost should definitely take inspo from Wonder Woman: Historia books for Diana’s origin and Phil Jimenez’s arc where the Bana-Mighdall Amazon tribe fought with Themyscirans. Maybe this show will be the origin of the other tribe(s) and how they split from the island
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Gunn said ",,,Loved comics" Loved is past tense BTW. He like's very off center and irreverent comics and characters in many cases bends characters into that mold. That's why he hasn't been loved by in large for taking on this job. IMHO he only made one good comic book film and now sadly I'm looking at that one as a fluke and that was the first Guardians of the Galaxy. This first slate is just not good. By the way. Snyder wasn't trying to "catch up to the Marvel movies. The greedy executives were just coveting what was on another companies plate and ruined what they had. Gunn is in no way fixing it. It is the Gunn verse because he and his partner created the slate not the director or writer. The Director whomever THEY pick still has to paly in the continuity. They are shackled. This is not gonna work. They need to do a COMPLETE reboot. None of these on this slate will make a billion is my prediction.
I really don’t understand how some people can’t see that Dc is in the best position it’s been in in a while, or probably ever. They have 3 things there last regime didn’t: structure, leadership, and a plan. 2 people who are running a studio who are good at their respective jobs, and actually are out for the best interest of the universe. This was the best case scenario for DC. And I can’t wait to see where it goes.
Because I loved the Snyderverse that's why and I don't want a new Batman again when we have Robert Pattinson playing an amazing version of the character
@@SRT_IncTX The Snyderverse failed. I liked aspects of it, but it failed. Just cause you loved it doesn’t mean it didn’t have problems. Do I love there being 2 Batman? Yes and no. Wish there was a definitive, but I’ll take it. They’re going about it the best they can with what they have. You don’t have to pay attention to what they’re doing if the Snyderverse being gone hurts that badly. And really, You didn’t fight for the Snyderverse nearly as much as you all claim you did. If that were the case, MOS, BVS, Black Adam, and JL would’ve been more successful. But they weren’t. Move on, or continue wishing a broken universe could’ve been salvaged by watching everything snyder made since it happened already.
@@NoirNameless I literally watched all in theaters and bought them. I can't give them millions I don't have lol. We all know the characters so the way Snyder went about it to me was good. WB sadly got in their own way. The one thing keeping me from having hope I'm the new universe is Batman brave and the bold being more child friendly. Matt reaves made a hell of a movie and he deserves to continue in the main continuity. And in my opinion is good enough for kids to watch as well. I don't need kiddy Batman.
How do you know Gunn is good at running a movie studio. If you say because he makes good movies that's stupid.
@@SRT_IncTX I’d agree with you there, we already had Robert Pattison’s Batman on screen we didn’t need another Batman, we needed Supes and the other league in Matt Reeves universe
#securethecrisps
The different tones is exactly what comic book movies need in my opinion. I think the new slate offers a ton of promise with the variety of characters and stories referenced by Gunn during the announcement. Plus a Swamp Thing horror film! Lets Go!
I trust James Gunn.. I really do think he’s going to make a difference with DC massively. Letting directors have their vision is so important into the material that they have. My only concern is the amount of humor this universe will get, the humor needs to be very subtle and I hope each director gets that.
@Avian 😏
Just as long as the humor is done well and in the right projects, (booster gold and the like) I would be on board
I agree.
@@aaronmoyer4722 i mean james gunn is quite literally a master at balancing humor, violence and emotion together. So i think he will do well
Give him a chance. His a proven talent.
Personally I think the new project choices are great.
Supes, Brave and the bold, booster gold, supergirl, and Lanterns. What's the problem.
The other choices I'm OK with.
Exactly.No project ain't release yet and people are losing their shit.
You can see the excitement and respect he has for the position he’s in getting giddy with his announcements.
Booster Gold is one of my favorite characters, so I’m looking forward to it.
I completely agree with boba here, let's let Gunn actually make some stuff or at least get a trailer or two out before we jump the "Gunn" and assume it'll be bad.
Respect the opinion but not the pun lol
what i love about Gunn is that he actually loves comics and isn't ashamed
many people love comic book characters, but when it comes to adapting them to film a lot of them are just embarrassed of the medium and try to distance the fact that they're essentially making comic book movies
Everything i've heard so far is really encouraging and exciting
i think most people mad about this is are stynder fans being butt hurt about syderverse is dead
Literally, it’s just them.
@@firstlast9846 i genuinely find that f*ckin hilarious 🤣
I am very excited for the changes that JG is bringing to the DCU. At the very least they have direction now that never existed before and there is no one to throw interference into the mix as had been done on past films. Just listen to Kevin Smith talk about his experience with WB if you want to know what kind of idiots use to run that company. The more I hear about Gunn's approach to all this, the more optimistic I have been for the future of DC.
If James Gunn gets this right, it would not only change the way studios make superhero movies, but movies as a whole. Having these movies be different can avoid superhero fatigue and show that people don't want universes, they want to watch movies. Marvel has been failing as for everyone trying to replicate marvel.
I think we should at least give James a chance. He has potential. I mean yes its a shame Calvil isn't casted, but that doesn't mean he could return for an elseworlds project. Getting tired of the fire James Gunn garbage. There is hope, we just got to give him a chance. Rn the projects seems interesting. Just voicing my opinion.
I’m #TrustJamesGUNN all the way!!! Will he be successful? I hope so! We’ll find out and that’s what’s so exciting!
What do you think about James Gunn writing projects but not directing them? I love his writing and he's clearly prolific at it but directing takes a LOT of time and I worry that if he tries to do too much (writing, directing, Co-CEO of the entire DC Studios) it will push projects back which will frustrate everyone. But if he sticks to writing the scripts and then allowing others to direct the projects (with his oversight, of course) then he can have as much control over the story, tone and development as possible while still allowing others to put their imprint on it via directing and projects can come out on time.
*I’ve seen people say* ,
“This doesn’t look interesting” then mention their interest in the “Snyderverse” and then I realise they’re not even DC fans
And your point is? I don’t mean to antagonize you and I mean this with respect, but what are you implying here? Now, to counteract your last premise and play devil’s advocate, is it more important to construct a film slate for DC fans or one that has mass appeal? Especially considering that WB is struggling financially at the moment? I wish Gunn all the luck with his plan, but it does concern me that is not going to work out as he wants given that many of the projects announced may not bring the necessary cash to sustain it
Cher’s Wigmaker - point is Snyderverse isn’t a reflection of what those characters are.. the fans of the Snyderverse are fans of Snyder as much as they are DC comics and characters
You just realized this. I knew this the second they hired on Nolan and Snyder to make DC cinema. If you just listen to them.. you’ll quickly realize they don’t know much about what they are “adapting” and some cases it’s beyond indifference and straight up dislike what the characters are. You should’ve known this at the latest after MoS that the creators and the fans of that project don’t actually like DC at all or even know anything about it… they just like the power sets and wanna see hard punches, super speed, and murder. They want superpowered action figures and not the DC characters (HEROES).
Imho, I'd love to see the DCU as the superheroic equivalent of A24
If James Gunn could make Peacemaker, who was the most hated character in TSS lovable, he could make anything great.
@BobaTalks YOU ARE PREACHING IN THIS DAMN VIDEO 🤣🤣🤣 I totally agree the decision of making Gunn being one of the Heads of the DCU is not a bad a decision AT ALL! He definitely does deserve this role and after his story I do have faith in him. I think people need to let them work and we can judge later. It really gave me real excitement when he talk about every writer and Director for the different projects are gonna be able to do their own thing because that’s EXACTLY how it is in the comics 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾. Which is huge first step in the right direction, unlike the MCU which all there movies feel and setup the same. I still think he could’ve used bigger Ip’s to help Batman and Superman, however he did kill it with Guardians and Suicide Squad, so I’m still not worried lol. I truly can’t wait
The same mistakes aren't being made and people need to know that. Gunn is creating the foundation of the DC Universe to step into while at the same time not repeating the same things we've seen before and giving the people what they deserve. Which means a Superman with longevity, Batman with the Bat Family finally on the big screen, new elements like The Authority and Creature Commandos to expand the DCU and create new interest and storyline, background storyboarding that support the Gods and Monsters theme of the first chapter and much more. I just finished reading Justice League: The Darkseid War and in that, they mention the phrase, "Gods and Monsters". This chapter is a full-on establishing of the DCU and setting up for a cohseive saga that is fresh for our characters we know and love. All good things. Gunn certainly has to prove himself but ultimately Gunn is giving the cinematic DCU what it needs, injecting what he does best, and writing the vision and making it plain. Good video. Stay hopeful my DC friends.
I love the approach to the new Wonder Woman franchise. Paradise Lost should definitely take inspo from Wonder Woman: Historia books for Diana’s origin and Phil Jimenez’s arc where the Bana-Mighdall Amazon tribe fought with Themyscirans. Maybe this show will be the origin of the other tribe(s) and how they split from the island
One thing that I personally wanted to see is Bruce and Dick go against the Joker… a lot of people want to see this!! As excited as I am about this new DCU, man it’s just some things that I want to see in my life time.
I think that at least this time there's SOME sort of plan. So I'm hopeful.
Hey boba another great video. I was just wandering what are some more obscure DC characters that you would like to see, or even can imagine that we get to see introduced into this new universe somewhere down the line? Cheers and keep it up!
Totally agree with you Boba. Really hope that everything turns out amazing! And James gunn proves everyone wrong❗️💥
There were talks of Geoff Johns and Greg Berlanti having James Gunn and Peter Safran's jobs and I fear that they got rid of the competition when they took over.
Superman: Legacy, I Can Not Wait
Good points. It might all work out.
I'm cautiously optimistic for James Gunn's DCU. I hope it's successful and I hope we'll see the best possible versions of these characters/stories. I feel like we're all witnessing the (re)birth of the DCU and we're going to be a part of that journey.
When people complain about origin story or early career stories I don’t think they realize there is time to get to the stories they want told, the main issue I had with Snyder was that since Batman was so old everything happened and they were already talking about his replacements there was no build up for emotional stories
Yessssss. People are complaining about the age difference of batman and superman in this universe but they forget Superman and Batman met for the first time when Batman was Dark Knight Returns batman
What if JG is setting up The Batman Who Laughs: The Infected. Keeping Shazam and Blue Beatle. Adding Supergirl and the Bat family. It would be a completely different direction. 🤷🏻♂️. Time will tell.
Trust THE GUNN.
I think I’m fully on board with James Gunn and his vision! I mean the guardian movies, peacemaker and The suicide squad were all amazing
I'm down for the future they are trying to do!! Also as a Snyder fan!!! Just want some awesome stories and movies to go with my love for the DC universe!!!
Innovative Creative Design That Doesn't Hold Back And Doesn't Coddle Or Venerate the Material Too Much. Just Saying..
Gunn/Safran want to create something fun and exciting. They are willing to bring new ideas and characters to screen. But for some reason there are fans who just can’t let go of the past. They’re like some guy who gets introduced to someone new then spends all their time talking about their past relationship.
It never made sense nor was it ever explained why the heroes were hiding or in the shadows in the last decade or so. Wonder Woman was active in World War I, but destroyed cameras to act in secret for decades. Why!? Batman has a reason to conceal and/or use shadows to evoke fear- that’s not the standard for every DC character.
I love the feel of a bigger universe with various aspects being displayed. DC has some wonderful character which have survived for decades without being held up by Batman. The characters have strong stories and personalities that drive the universe.
Bring on good stories!
I'm honestly very excited, the plan so far sounds fresh and thought out
Very ready for a game of thrones style dc project along with the swamp thing horror movie
I think the biggest thing for this universe is that if he is going to keep characters from the snyderverse he should only keep minor characters ie waller, maybe harley quinn, etc, but if they keep jason mamoa and ezra miller but get rid of the rest it is extremely unfair because they are all around the same age with the exception of miller soi they cant use that excuse. I really think that they need to recast every major character or else there is absolutely zero reason to recast superman and batman but keep the rest.
edit- you made a valid point where ben affleck probs wouldn't want to sign a long deal. I think you're right however I do think henry cavill would be down. I am excited for it but apprehensive.
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I really love your videos Boba
Keep up the great work Boba!
Zaslov is definitely getting a bang for his buck hiring Gunn and what’s his name. Gunn should change his name to “Hmmm, wonder who should write the script for this thing??? Ahhhhh just messing with ya, you know it’s going to be me!”
Think they will give us NIGHTWING AND RED HOOD??
Why is no one talking about how John Stewart’s a yellow lantern or have I missed something?
i really dig the plan, but i just can't stop thinking going straight to damian is such a wasted opportunity. sure you can do all the robins later, but how batman treats each very differently across very different periods in his career is such an important aspect of the family. what will it matter when damian has a chip on his shoulder because he sees dick as the golden boy? i know, you know, the remaining 7 billion people don't. i hate how we keep stripping the batman concept of the key components that make him so much better in comics
I'm really neutral about all of this. But I am hopeful for the future.
Like I said when this was all announced I will give it a chance because I am excited about a few things so I just hope he doesn't disappoint us all
GREAT Hands.
Maybe This New Direction Is Akin To DC52?
That was the Snyderverse but its dead and buried
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As a fellow Missourian (Chiefs Kingdom). I will give him the benefit of the doubt. But, Kansas City hates St. Louis. So if turns out to be horrible. We will destroy St. Louis
I don’t know a lot about comics. Is Kansas one of the only real places in DC?
No. All the real places in our world exist in there’s. Think of it like The Real World + More. It’s not a completely fantasy world, it’s the real world at the base then it’s layered and added to with a series of fictional places and elements. The difference between them and Marvel is tht DC uses its cities (the lot of fictional ones) as characters too, right along with their fictional celebrities and heroes. It’s still America, it just America has a few more big cities and altered history than what we are used to in the real world. Same with a few fictional countries and places and world history.
@@ez6888 thanks! Appreciate that . 👍🏻
I'm *glad* we're not doing origins again. Too much exposition! Create a good arch instead and introduce new dudes as needed.
There s Kansas in DC..
It's crazy that the MCU is the most successful franchise in the history of cinema-- more billion dollar films than any other and more total and worldwide gross and all based on superheroes--- that blows my mind! No one would've guessed that to be the case 15 yrs ago!
WB/DC saw all that happening and asked the right questions, "why can't we have similar success"-- of course the execution was wrong and the rest is history!
First off I don't get ur criticisms of the MCU being all the same-- Spider-Man trilogy, Captain America trilogy and the Thor trilogy are nothing alike and all have totally different themes. Same goes with Eternals, Shang Chi and Wakanda Forever-- all very u IW ur feels. And I can post for u director after director all saying they were free to create the movie/show they wanted and weren't part of a machine contrary to false popular beliefs. No need to talk down the MCU to prop up DCU-- I love both and hate when peeps do that and this isn't ur first video doing that!
As for the new SC slate I say bring it on-- sounds super exciting a new fresh start! I wishing them all the luck and most looking forward to the Green Lantern show!! Let's GOOOO!!!
I'm really hopeful for this because they seem to have learned a lot from mistakes made with the Snyderverse. Let me just say I respect Snyder as a director and I love a lot of his work outside of these movies but looking at the snyderverse his best film is Man of Steel by far and I think that's because as much as Snyder may have respect for Batman as a character he doesn't seem to like him much. Having Batman be a killer from the beginning is like an elseworlds approach to the character and what they should have done is have Snyder start on Man of Steel 2 while Ben Affleck could make his own Batman movie. Now with Reeves he said before he wanted to make The Batman a personal and grounded story if the studio then force him to add superman the least grounded character there is, literally and figuratively, it would harm his vision. Reeves would also just refuse, he said that during his pitch to WB for The Batman he told the executives "I respect that Batman is your property so if you don't like my pitch don't hire me find someone else but if you hire me leave me alone to do what I think is best" I'm paraphrasing there but that was the jist of it.
The way things are happening now in the DCU is a much more logical and cleaner way to build a universe you have a team of people with a clear vision for the universe then directors and actors can come in and maybe put their twist on it but they only come in if they fit the wider scheme of things rather than trying to push a director into building an entire universe in 4 movies all by themselves.
I can't understand all this sensible, rational talk you're spewing. Cautious optimism? Let's not condemn it until we see a film or two? What is all this guarded hope I'm hearing? So confusing to hear a cautiously positive attitude instead of a leap to judgement!
Bahahhaha ya ok
Honestly, The ZACK SNYDER DCEU was GREAT and if only it could have been TOTALLY GREENLIGHTED but since it couldn't continue for various reasons and they dropped the ball on SUPERMAN and BATMAN continuing with those actors -- (I love THE BATMAN/REEVES) But that's an ELSEWORLD'S FILM and not the regular BATMAN figure; therefore, too much time had elapsed, WARNER BROS went against THE SNYDER and that's not a good idea: then new ownership came in but now we have a great brand new opportunity (let's be thankful) with two incredibly creative and wonderful guys. Let's see the dawning light of greatness on the horizon: it's HERE!
Snyder is garbage
All James Gunn needs now is to have Joss Whedon write these shows. That will certainly put the nail in DC's coffin.
Suicide Squad was bad but i really enjoyed Peacemaker so im somewhat optimistic
The comment from James Gunn is very telling, and simultaneously the problem with how modern people think about Superman... he is more of an ideal than a character that people want to see and follow along. Watching him in action is only interesting for a few moments before it gets boring because it's so idealized... and idealized characters...can be very boring because they are predictable. That is part of the reason why some people gravitated towards the Snyderverse Superman because they tried to change him a bit from the classic ideal of Superman
I beg to differ, Gunns roster is mediocre
What lineup would you preferred to have seen?
First!!
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I would never trust James Gunn.
Lol no.
The problem is that we've heard all this before... even though I loved Peacemaker quite a bit, his "The Suicide Squad" failed to move me honestly and didn't do that well in the Box Office so this could go either way for DC to have him helm DC entertainment
@yousefal-dulaijan5967 not even the virus. It's cuz of the same day and date release on HBO. Even Dune was a financial failure.
@@yarc9 it was also continuing 2016 Suicide Squad, which nobody liked
@@yarc9 it's a sorta reboot sorta sequel
Hey Boba, We are all talking about the new slate, but I feel like we are pretending to be excited. When I heard the highly anticipated Gunn announcement my first reaction was.... Eh.🫤
Am I wrong for thinking that? Is these obscure projects really something to be excited about?
Not at all. There's been a lot of ups and down with DC over the past several years when it comes to a connected universe. I think for a lot of people they're getting to a near point of apathy, and as I go on to mention in the video, they'll needs to see it to believe it with some of these projects. It would be interesting to know what you think would have excited you though?
@@BobaTalks So ive always been a DC fanatic since i was a kid, so obviously I thought that there would be the trinity FOR SURE. But I guess i was wrong.
I love Green Lantern so i wished that wouldve been a movie,
And for the most part, these all seem like characters that nobody besides for hardcore fans know.... its just a wierd strategy and I was hoping for more heavy hitters i suppose.
@@BobaTalks I think it looks exact opposite. It looks bland and that's good cause if it becomes banger it will be considered as a comeback from bottom. Having marginal hype is best thing given what happened to Star wars and MCU.
Even I remember not many people were excited for TDK trilogy but we got better than expected. Everyone was simping Clooney's Batman before movie dropped and we all know that it almost killed the franchise.
Everything does not need to be hyped. it could be subtle and something good to watch And even to revisit
I love the approach to the new Wonder Woman franchise. Paradise Lost should definitely take inspo from Wonder Woman: Historia books for Diana’s origin and Phil Jimenez’s arc where the Bana-Mighdall Amazon tribe fought with Themyscirans. Maybe this show will be the origin of the other tribe(s) and how they split from the island