10 Doctor Who Characters More Important Than You Realised
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- In 60 years of time and space, there's NOBODY in Doctor Who that isn't important.
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Vincent - the Doctor knew he couldn't save him ... but also knew he could show he was appreciated ...
@davidioanhedges Not only appreciated, but loved as his artwork showed and the people that had gathered to view it.
And you can be great, good, and broken.
When I sawr the Van Gogh exhibit at the LA County Museum of Art back in 1998, I found myself wondering what if he would standing in this room, would he think, what could one say to him to let him know what he did. Then that episode came along and did the very thing, I wished I could do.
Guess it was a Fixed Point but The Doctor didn't want to bring that up after the last Non Fix Point had gone so badly for Amy
I regularly re-watch DW and this episode still makes me cry. I do know firsthand what it's like to have people just think you are mad when really what you have is depression, I guess that's why it affects me so much. This episode is easily one of my favourites.
I think Lobus Caecilius from the fires of Pompeii should get a mention. The lesson the Doctor learned from him , to do what is moral instead of what is right, inspired the 12th Doctor to take his face as a reminder.
yes!
And since John Frobisher was Caecilius’ descendant, Torchwood Season 3 might’ve gone a completely different way
I have bi polar disorder & so did Vincent... That episode was perfection. So beautiful. People don't realize that mental illness sometimes is terminal like other diseases - I've heard doctors in my bi polar clinic cal bipolar disorder the cancer of mental illness, when I'm doing well I go into remission. I'm stable for long periods of time. But it never goes away. Watching that episode done with such respect to the character - and we are alot of us- artistic, talented, writers, singers, I always say it's because we are missing a layer of skin ., everything gets in, the good.,. And the bad ...
I'm tearing up just remembering the Vincent and the Doctor episode. It's my all time favorite episode. I've watched it so many times. I still cry every time the music starts. I tell everyone I don't think I'll ever stop watching because for me it's a show that means more to me than just a story or entertainment value. It's what helped me get through my divorce. I was just going through divorce proceedings with my abusive ex when David strolls out of the TARDIS and loudly says, I don't know, after being asked who he was. It's a moment I won't ever forget, I sat down and couldn't take my eyes off the screen. I've been hooked ever since. Even though David is the best actor,(I literally watch anything hes in, even got to meet him once) I love Matt, he's hands down the best doctor for me. He became my best friend when I was lonely and depressed. When I watched the one with Vincent I just fall in love with it all over again. I love how Amy is sad, but she doesn't know why, I think that sometimes as an adult we have so much going on, and only those who are feeling the same way or stop to pay attention will notice our sadness even when we don't. It's just a well written episode.
Never realised that lorna bucket from a good man goes to war is also La'an Noonien-Singh so the first time I saw her in something was doctor who
Me either🤯
I knew I recognised her from somewhere!
Yip. Totally didn't realise until I spotted the thumbnail
@@MrMann0123 Thumbnail brought me here too.
See I saw the thumbnail and thought I'd look on Christina Chong's TV and Movies on Google and this wasn't on here. Thanks for confirming what Google didn't.
Adric will always be one of my favorite companions. I was a few years younger then him at the time but I looked up to the character. Very sad when he died.
I always remember Lorna as the character who confused me for years! I thought from everything she said in Good Man Goes to War that the Gamma Forest was where Melody was taken and the Doctor meets her there when trying to find Melody! I was very confused when Lets Kill Hitler totally contradicted that!
I was convinced that when she got shot, instead of dying she was going to regenerate into Alex Kingston.
@@Colin4763 That would have been really interesting!
I remember hazily a scene in Doctor who where he yells to a girl in a forest to run, but I think it was with Tennant and it was weird back then, because the scene had zero connection to the rest of the episode as far as I remember.
@@mistercomment1622 What episode is that from?
It's not lorna bucket, it's bouquet 😂😂
aka Hyacinthe.
😂😂😂😂😂
with her white slim line telephone that has NO relation to the chinese takeaway 😁 and i would have LOVED to see Hyacinth complain about the shoddy police box in her neighborhood!
I knew I was going to like Vincent and The Doctor cos I’m a bit of a Van Gogh nerd but I didn’t realise I would love it so much. I watched it again recently and cried buckets!
Always a good day when there's a new whoculture video
True dat.
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I like how there is a translate button when i view this on my phone
Not Who related but someone in one of my Trek groups posted from North Ireland because he was trying to decide which of his Starfleet uniforms he should wear and I said "you should ask Sean F! He has just about every one" 😊🖖🏼
YESSSS
I think this is (Please) a list that deserves a part two!
As always thank you so very much all for the videos.
Among the many scenes* I like to revisit/watch regularly
(*scenes I regularly watch: Tom Baker, "You know, I really think you might". John Hurt, "But for now, for this moment, I am The Doctor again." Peter Capaldi, "Hello Sweetie". Peter Capaldi, "Finally, it's my go. Oh... my... God!!! Huh... it's bigger... one the inside..." Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman "You're going to help me?" "Well, why wouldn't I help you?" Matt Smith, "... but just in case, Pond put some trousers on." David Tennant "The hat, the coat, the crickety cricket stuff, the stick of celery...", )
(Sorry, I went off on a tangent.... not related to much loved characters who were important to me (I realised!)) (But as (my favorite) The Doctor (Jon Pertwee) said "A straight line may be the shortest distance between two points, but it is by no means the most interesting.")
Sara Kingdom also had a horrible death, when she died of accelerated old age, in the Daleks' Master Plan
Honestly I thought Susan would be on this list: because Susan’s enigmatic background makes her an intriguing figure like the Doctor. From the undecided reasons and even very little reasons why they left Gallifrey, from her own spin off stories and her status as the first female companion of the Doctor. Especially the 1sts
If "Melody" was translated as "Song" and "Pond" was translated as "River", how would "Williams" have been translated if baby Melody had taken her father's last name?
Going by the Oxford English Dictionaries definition of "Will": "expressing the future tense" or "expressing inevitable events". So "Song of the Inevitable Future", maybe?
@@krisgonynor689 And obviously ignoring the rest of the surname. Rory isn't just Will, he's Williams. It's really hard to guess, what would the word Williams be translated into the language of the people of Gamma, but in English the surname originates from the name William, Williams obviously means "in the possession of (someone called) William" (as in William's, they eventually took the apostrophe away to create the surname), so perhaps the people of Gamma would translate it in such way, that would express a possession of a certain William, if they even have such name. So perhaps Melody Williams could sound something like a Song of a William.
It's also good to notice, that Melody's name and surname are in the Gamma language shuffled. River Song should in fact be called Song River, as Song = Melody, River = Pond. Perhaps Moffat turned it around to express the Doctor's and Melody's timelines going in the opposite direction, who knows, who nose?
Williams. The TARDIS wouldn't have translated it.
Nice to see my favorite companion getting some love. I hadn’t realised that Adric save humanity TWICE!
Just popped into my head new head cannon Glyn Williams is related to Rory Williams, which is where Melody Pond’s Mels regeneration came from.
I've recently been rewatching some episodes of Who and I was very pleasantly surprised to see Christina Chong as Lorna Bucket because it had been so long since I'd watched much Who. And she wasn't the only actor I recognized who have gone on to have great success elsewhere. I noticed Daniel Kaluuya in "Planet of the Dead" and Chukwudi Iwuji in "The Impossible Astronaut."
So you're telling me the Silurians had to bury underground for millenia because Adric dropped a Cyberman ship through time by remote control
It was an earth fighter not a Cyberman ship & in Torchwood season 2 final episode Captain Jack is sent back in time and sees the asteroid and it's just an asteroid.
@@DanBen07 like all sci fi series, dr who has trouble maintaining continuity 🙃
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More then one asteroid
Idk
@@plantainsame2049 also many points in time fluctuate while some are fixed
@@VanBoat Yeah, but Now I want A book of Captain Jack somehow saving adric
I would have said big finish but I Have heard John beverman is a bit Is controversial for reasons I don't fully understand so let's do it without him
You ended on the right note. Thank you.
The moment you realise, La'an Noonien-Singh was in Doctor Who and stitched River Song's name on a piece of cloth 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
Even just the mention of Vincent van Gogh off in the show made me cry just now.
I honestly wish Duggan would've became a full-time companion.
Great video! Nice list!
Richard Curtis: shows up, makes one of the best DW episodes ever, leaves
Great video as always! Thanks Sean and Who Culture! 😊😊
I always kinda saw Duggan as Dirk Gently
Who else noticed the sneaky little reference to the Melody Pond/River Song reveal in the CIN mini episode on Friday, with the revelation that The Doctor accidentally gave the daleks their name by way of a bootstrap paradox and “dalek” being an anagram of “kaled” was just a coincidence, just like how he gave River Song her name in the same way and the whole “The Gamma forest has no ponds, just rivers” explaination was also just a coincidence.
I’ve got to wonder whether that could be a little bit of foreshadowing for who one of the “redacted” characters in Wild Blue Yonder will be…
Always thought Duggan would make a good companion. My siblings and I discussed this at length back when we first saw it in the early 1980s.
Learning this about the author of your #1 pick is powerful. It makes a beautiful episode all the better.
Glyn Williams' astronaut suite was also later used for the character Bosk in The Empire Strikes Back. Hey, that's a good idea for a future video, Doctor Who props and costumes that were later repurposed for other media! How about it, WhoCulture?
Old Moxxie is significant in another way. He/She/It was the first character to use the phrase, "Bad Wolf".
If by important you mean representation-wise, then I think that Tommy from Planet of the Spiders deserves a mention. He was the young man working at the house that Lupton and his followers were. He had the mind of a child which was because of learning difficulties, I think also a good early representation of people with those in TV while also being an ally of the Doctor. Captain Mike Yates in The Daemons also might have appeared to imply he is a lesbian when he asked Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart to dance. Also, Ace served as the prototype for the modern Doctor Who companion.
Capt. Mike Yates is a lesbian? OK then. 😂
Christina Chong, so close to joining the Sci Fi trifecta of Doctor Who, Star Wars and Star Trek, only to have all her scenes cut in Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
That police man in the first doctor episode is amazing, and possibly could have interesting possibilities for an episode again or maybe with the 60th celebrations could be his about to be revealed as part of something about the tardis has been hiding deep inside the centre of the core of itself. Remember the doctors wife episode? Well, where did she come from anyway, and it is likely she could take on different looks and genders and oddly each version of the doctor, the tardis changes as well this means the police man is possibly all the same AI and part of the tardis memories a syndication of sort, the tardises guardian a holographic AI that is actually a life a shape shifting AI. TARDIS AI a series in that?
When I saw Lorna Bucket, I thought she might be Christina Chong from Star Trek Strange New Worlds. The actresses look eerily alike, they could play sisters.
Somebody actually pronounced Vincent Van Gogh properly! Goff and Goh are both so wrong.
It's definitely a lot closer than the American "Go"!
But technically the surname starts & ends with a gutteral "ch" sound, the latter being said a bit longer than the first. G isn't pronounced as G in Dutch, it's more like the ch of "loch" (as in Ness). The O is closer to the O in pot.
I just looked it up in Wikipedia, and in the International Phonetic Alphabet, it's 'ɣɔx which probably doesn't help most people much! They do have an - I assume - Dutchman saying his name "Vincent Willem Van Gogh" if you press the speaker button.
Having said that, Seán's version is by far the best non-Dutch-speaker's way of pronouncing it! (I'm learning Dutch, and whereas it's easier than German, it's so gutteral that I get a sore throat after a while! 😂 I'm from S Wales and speak more nasally - French is the easiest language for me to speak, physically that is!)
At first I was upset that Kamelion wasn't on the list, then I realized we all know how important they are
As a Queer person of the same age, I absolutely read Ace as family. 💜
The Vincent van Gogh episode is one of most favourites of the show.
My boy Moxx finally getting the shine he deserves!
City of death is probably the jewel in Doctor who crown
Blue meanie? Does he live in a yellow submarine? Has he invaded pepper land?
if one extrapolates Adrics race from the episode Full Circle one could argue that Adric was the kick off of mammalian evolution.Makes the 5th Doctor's response to Nissa and Tegan's pleas to go back and pull Adric off the ship before the crash make more sense
I think about 90% of the people The Doctor has saved The Doctor has not been formally introduced to. so he gets a little slack for not remembering people.
I always wished someone had sat young Mels down and said : You can't always rely on someone else to solve problems or to be your hero. Sometimes to need to roll up your selves and be your own hero who fixes problems. Although she did learn that lesson.
02:18 - It's La'an!
Every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don't always soften the bad things, but vice-versa, the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things and make them unimportant.
Nice!
I love Douglas Adams as a writer, his stories are always so convoluted then right at the end he brings it all together, and makes you say WFT LOL! Thank you, thank you, thank you. Vincent and The Doctor, is my favorite Matt Smith episode. I thought Tony Curran played Van Gogh brilliantly.
"I've never met anyone who wasn't important."
Holy crap. I knew Cristina Chong looked familiar, but I somehow totally missed the Dr. Who spot.
Number 4 shows the the asteroid that destroyed the dinosaurs was actually a freighter but at the end of Torchwood season 2 Jack is back in Time and sees the asteroid and it's an asteroid not a freighter.
Hologram disguise isk
the actress who plays Launa bucket is in star trek strange new worlds and she can sing as well its a shame they killed her off in dr who she would have made a great companion
Could Lorna be a distant descendant of Hyacinth Bucket, from Keeping up Appearances? (It was pronounced 'bouquet', but only by her alone) Her son Sheridan could have had a child with his male partner after all...
a distinct possibility!
@@omega311888 I think it just became head canon for me. 🙂
Qual o nome do episódio que aparece no começo do vídeo alguém sabe responder?
Is that Christina Chong from Star Trek: SNW playing Lorna the giver of River Song's name? Cool.
As a Trekkie/Whovian/Star Wars etc... it never seems right when Sean is doing the Who videos or Ellie the Trek... I notice you couldn't resist the Lorna Bucket--> La'an aside.
Ellie, Sean and now Crispy all do WhoCulture. Any 2 person one will be Ellie and Sean, I agree Ellie is more regular but Sean is a regular on the WhoCulture ones!
Ponderous???....The 4th Doctor was Ponderous???......NO Jelly Babies for you...=((
Time travellers: Crashes an entire cyberman ship into the ground killing the dinosaurs
Humans: 10 Doctor Who Characters More Important Than You Realised
Lorna Bucket is played by the great Christina Chong from Star Trek Strange New Worlds, I knew this way before you said it. She along with Jess Bush are my favorite new Trek actors.
Dr. Who was, and should be still, a T.V. show for children. There is no need whatsoever to bombard them either directly or indirectly by use of bombardment of subliminal messaging. There is always Torchwood for more adult story lines.
I'd always hoped that there were other stories with Duggan when I first heard of the Big Finish stories. Sad to know there aren't.
adric was the kid on doctor who, i was an infant, but had cousins his age as a kid i related most to this charicter
I kinda thought that the soldier girl in Demon's Run was Jenny from The Doctor's Daughter Episode from Season 4 when she regenerated
_The Doctor’s Daughter_ isn’t a Season 4 episode.
Ahhh.... Mr. Copper. I hoped he enjoyed his time on Earth. I hoped he was also able to avoid women named after flowers!
Harriet Jones??? Yes......we know who she is.
It's also difficult to forget Christina Chong when she was on 24, but the producers managed it. She got a raw deal in that show
Big thumbs up for the No 1.
An amazing list Sean!!
Did you say Harry Sullivan tried to steal a bit of the Great Wall Of China with his boyfriend?
Also, can you PLEASE be more choosy with your ads?
You can set choices in your account. I can't be the only one fed up with Temu and TikTok crap!
Is it Bucket, or is Lorna descended frpm Hyacinth Bu-cket ?
Only if she's seen standing next to a Tower of Pimps.
Me: Ace is my favorite classic companion.
H0m0phobe: But she was going to be a lesbian!!
Me: I already said she's my favorite. You don't need to sell it to me.
HOLY CRAP! I never realized that Christina Chong was Lorna Bucket!!
Van gogh is such a wonderful episode.
Millington and Judson are NOT the first LGBTQ characters to appear in Doctor Who. Stewart Hyde beat them to it by 17 years when he appeared in 1972's 'The Time Monster'. Hyde is coded as a gay man in his dress, his language, his attitudes and his actions, and was played by an LGBTQ actor, Ian Collier (later the second Omega). It's so blatant that it almost becomes text rather than subtext, and was later confirmed by the production team.
And yes, I know that Millington was played by Alfred Lynch, who was also LGBTQ - but Dinsdale Landon, playing Judson, was not.
I was looking at Lorna Bucket thinking, "Where the hell do I recongnise her from"? And then I found myself doing a George Costanza style "Laaaaaa'aaaaaaan" scream whilte pointing at my monitor.. LOL
I'm still going through SNW withdrawals, I may need to re-watch Christina Chong's appearance in Doctor Who!
Lorna didn't die, she was teleported to Star Trek Strange New Worlds. 😁
LOL I watched the rest of the clip. I should have known you would have referenced Christina. 😊❤
I clicked on this because the thumbnail looked so familiar and it is indeed Christina Chong.
Hey, it‘s Lt La‘an Noonian-Singh on the thumbnail
I totally clicked on this video for the Christina Chong thumbnail. 🙂
So the Chameleon circuit is responsible for Jo Martin's Doctor and Tardis...?
The story or Lorna meeting in the gamma forest happened after her death. It was in a comic. The might warrior meaning wasn't because of that event it what they believed he was based on his past history.
I knew i seen her, Lorina actress is on the new trek.
Vincent and the Doctor was is the Moffat era
Adric is the best classic who companion
Spicy take
@@danthemeegs8751 Yeah well hating child actors/characters is cruel, they get the privilege of being on TV and in response they get heckled by those who don't believe a child can do just as good a job as an adult - look at Harry Potter
Dugan was a great, fun character.
And then, of course, was the Moxx greeting by spitting in Rose's eye. The Doctor started it😁, breathing on reps of the Forrest of Cheem...
You know it's a good doctor who video when who do a list about something good and nothing from the 13 is on the list
OMG SEAN FERRICK IS HERE FROM WHOCULTURE
Wait... the fourth Doctor and Romana II were "ponderous"?
Adric was the first companion to die in an episode. Katrina was not in long enough to be considered one
How long they are there is immaterial. Katarina still counts as a companion.
@@DrWhoFanJ According to who? They are people who think Adam and Wilfred Mott are companions too.
They are not, you might as well say Kate Stewart is a companion
@@dazzle1545 Because all three of them are. Kate, however, is not.
whom*
No they are not@@DrWhoFanJ
@@dazzle1545 Yes, they are.
I love when a show about time travel treats certain events as immutable points. Going too far into the "what if" just negates their impact.
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Clara is way more important than Adric. The Impossible Girl, spread all through The Doctor's timeline, safeguarding him. Responsible for ensuring he picked the right TARDIS... sure, heavy retcon, I guess... but a much better one than what Chibnall did. Seems like you just hate modern Companions lol.
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About the first character supposedly being Harry Sullivan 's grandson . I'm confused . Sean said , Harry Sullivan tried to steal part of the Great Wall of China with his boyfriend . When did anyone say that Harry was homosexual ? Was Sean kidding ?
No, the first lgbt characters were Jamie and the 2nd Doctor (especially if subtext counts).
Were some of these people that important if no one knew. Intending to make someone important while not actually doing it is meaningless.
Duggan was the most important and then Adric was, make your mind up.
It was the Mr. Copper foundation, I don't think he actually invented the subwave network.
Doctor Who taught me that Brits mispronounce Van Gogh.
Americans do, too. It's a Dutch name, so it's actually more like, "Fan Hook."
As a direct descent of he's it is actually pronounced Fon GOth
@@JDKobra Isn't it rather van Chochoch? (possible Red Dwarf reference)
No, it's Van Gagh. Like the Klingon delicacy.
@@GabePuratekuta i think I know how to say my family name right and it is Fon Goth
@@JDKobra Don't ruin the bit.
It really winds me up when writers and directors try to reimagine the context of past episodes to insert DEI even now... It's just manipulative and condescending the way they try to tell you your memory is wrong it actually meant X... X being the current political and social narrative that didn't even exist in that form back then...
Their problem is, if they don't work like this, they would have to acknowledge, that homophobia never was as rampant as they claim it to be.
In the history of literature, L & G were always present, but there never was the need to make a fuss about it.