All It Takes Is One Attack to Cast My Deck with Kylox | Budget-ish Magic
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- How much of our deck can we cast with a single attack from Kylox, Visionary Inventor in Historic Brawl? Let's find out!
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That first opponent had the patience of a saint. God bless them and the smoldering crater that is their corpse.
Yeah, one of the drawbacks of the deck is that you don't actually get to see the full combo that often because people scoop, shout out to our opponent for sitting through that one.
@@MTGGoldfish Suffering From Success 😢
That harrow copy into opponent scoop was hilarious.
I liked the shameful "demolish the indestructible land" scoop, lol
I need to make a compilation video of brawl players scooping, there are some good ones.
@@MTGGoldfishplease do. Scoop comps send my sides into orbit
@@MTGGoldfish That would make for an awesome video!
"Melek is only a 12/12" vs Mono Green is a mood.
Izzet always has the craziest combos
So many combos, all the same result: My Deck, your face
i dunno if I’m just too eternal-brained but when someone says izzet combo I just think sneak n’ show
they ARE the craziest guild, it just makes sense!
This is such a flavorful "mad wizard" deck.
As an Izzet player it's all about chasing the moon the wonder of the biggest explosion possible by creating most bonkers synergy combo deck. The more insane theoretically impossible scenario the better. And all complex and absurd interactions of the stack.
And then there's green, all your lands are in play and you cast a big thing, draw a million cards for no reason, and make hundreds of life because all that wasn't enough.
@@Red_Mag3 both true 🤣
oh my god, I lent someone one of my decks and the synergies were so amazing they one-shot me with a crackle with power. It was really funny too since neither of us knew if there was a finisher. By the end he as casting 4 cost spell for one mana.
As Mizzet always wanted.
Least maniacal Izzet player
you slept on rielle, powers the discard theme and adds power for only 3 mana
I was looking for this comment exactly, great thought my guy!
Rielle is so fun in edh. Underworld breach combo and wheels? Yessir lol
Like for shame scoop after "destroying" indestructible land 🤣🤣🤣
Of note, Seth, due to the way that the mechanics were changed in Lord of the Rings, the amass mechanic was changed, so anytime you amass, all of the counters go on the same token, and Dreadhorde Invasion specifically turns it into a zombie, meaning you can easily get a giant army token that is a zombie, which will also trigger the second side of Dreadhorde Invasion to make the 6+ power token lifelinking. Between the equipment that equips cheaper to a token and the additional amass card, I think the opponent was building into an army theme for their particular Sauron deck.
Kinda wanted that last opponent to respond to everything with a Weather the Storm.
Seth's unbridled joy is a thing of beauty.
Always love the bugling for the rats!
I'm enjoying the fact that as WotC keeps printing duals with land types the snarls get easier to play untapped.
Yaaay, the monthly-ish Brawl stream is here. Glad that format keeps finding a home for fun deck ideas.
I always love watching Seth because he's just having a good time. It makes it so fun to see what craziness he's up to
Budget for historic brawl I think is 10 rares/mythics max. That being said, I’d enjoy seeing full power decks with budget versions in the accompanying articles.
I think Ovika was criminally under rated as an overcost izzet legend. It came out in the same set as Graaz, and you can just fill your deck with ramp, card draw, and polymorphs to murder people with 20 5/3's on turn 5-7. Even if Graaz gets removed, there's some sick backup wincons like stryxhaven stadium that make the deck go brrrrrrr into a nice short game.
Also, I would suggest running Wash Away in Blue Historic Brawl decks, it has never disappointed me.
Seth I love how you keep calling it Bugler Rat when it's Burger Rat.
In terms of budget, being singleton means you’ll passively collect or craft a lot of these staple cards anyways playing arena and you have access to every mana base you’ve ever used.
It does require some grinding, (and sometimes some rare drafting) but it’s not like you’re burning playsets of niche wildcards. If you need to substitute a card you don’t want to craft, you’ll draw it less often also.
Good to have one-of playables for midrange piles, midweek magic singleton, and gladiator too.
I think it counts as budget, but Historic brawl is also my favorite format on Arena. also, thanks for reminding me of slang ill
Also, you're much more likely to randomly have 1-ofs of high rarity cards than full playsets.
All those bugling burglars
This brawl deck was so entertaining to watch! Good job Seth
I consider it budget. As a newer-ish player who is EXTREMELY collection locked when it comes to making decks, pretty much all brawl decks feel budget due to only needing 1 of each card. Yes, I "should" be spending these rare wildcards on building up a standard friendly manabase first, but getting up single copies of important cards still feels very nice. You feel like you are accomplishing something by getting that first copy compared to crafting a 3rd and 4th copy for a 60-card format deck.
been playing urabrask in brawl, and i think he's a great budget commander. all you need is basic mountains and red cantrips/burn spells. i spent 1 mythic on blood moon, which wins games on its own--the rest is pretty much random commons and uncommons that cantrip, scry, deal damage, or buff creatures for sneaky early combat wins. i usually win turn 5.
"I swear this opponent typed discard into card search and added all the results" I did this when brainstorming for a Tinybones, The Pickpocket deck.
I do this for every deck build 😅
The best part about Izzet Combo decks is that you literally cannot play optimally. You must do the weirdest things with the vague promise of a win and wait for it all to resolve.
So basically Kylox is an expensive fling.
Plus an egregious amount of card draw and mana advantage
At 9:28 a fun trick would be casting the Pact of Negation targeting Mizzix's Mastery. This would up the storm count by one, but Mizzix's Mastery would resolve and go to the graveyard, leaving Pact with no target and consequently no 3UU tax for you next turn
I feel like I manifested this video. I was hoping you'd do an AtO with Kylox lol. Thanks for reading my mind Seth! Sorry about the myriad atrocities you no doubt also saw.
Niv-Mizzet would be so proud of him
I love love love Storm! I would be thrilled to see more :D
Guess I should look forward to seeing this on Arena, lol.
*Thanks for the Content!*
Thought you might appreciate knowing that I ran into your Tiamat Giants deck in Historic Brawl queue yesterday. : )
Love your Brawl videos
I have the same deck in commander and it's absolutely fun! I slotted some creatures with myriad to abuse Kylox's ability, along with extra turns, burn and Worldfire.
I love making my opponents scoop, that's the most amount of fun in MTG Arena.
Seth playing Historic Brawl? YES PLEASE!
Staples work a little different for the purposes of budget on Arena, since you don't want extra copies of stuff like pricey lands like with a paper EDH deck, so if you're getting into the format, it's almost always correct to craft part of a fetch/shock manabase whenever you get the chance. Maybe only pay too much mind to non-lands and give a little flexibility where stuff like Bolt that goes in every deck that can play it is concerned?
I am so excited! I wanna see!
Could you do an Astarion Historic Brawl deck next? I think it would be so fun to watch.
This deck is very budget and love it
Well as somebody who owns two Klyox (one in both art styles) from random pulls I have to say I'm delighted to see you make it work in Brawl! Gives me some hope of trying to find a recipe that works in actual Commander.
So a rule of thumb I use for determining if a deck qualifies as budget is: does the land base consist of mostly tap lands or does the rare ratio out number the mythic ratio. The other thing that can work instantly is "what rarity is my commander". For example most people think all Urza Decks are anti budget but there's always Powerstone Prodigy who is uncommon and probably THE HARDEST ONE to make work XD Like you can toss in a bunch of broken stuff and even then somehow he'll still find a way to be the worst Urza most of the time. At least in Brawl you can kind of redeem him with Alchemy Prototypes.
Got to feel bad for christopher, who tried to blow up an indestructible land.
That was beautiful.
I think I have played against one Grand Master of Flowers deck before, as my Grand Master of Flowers. Bahamut is absolutely amazing for super stupid slow mono white control prison stax.
Hey Seth, love your content ! Against the Muldrotha deck you could have played Melek, then played seize the storm from hand thanks to the reduction from Melek and then played Kylox, it would have been even more explosive :)
Standard Kylox might be a bit more doable with plot cards in Thunder Junction since you can plot a creature to cast same turn as Kylox.
20:00 i think the mana base doesn’t really effect the long term budget of eternal format deck especially brawl because after building a few decks you should have solid mana base options already
I think its budget because its easy to get one offs of alot of rares from the packs you get, while you almost always need to craft to get 4 of a card, so i think almost every brawl deck is pretty cheap.
d00t d00t d00t dooooo - love the dispirited bugling :)
Supreme Will over Confounding Riddle?
"Pew, pew"
- Seth, probably better known as SaffronOlive, 2024
Honestly I don't care if it's a "budget" deck, if I have the good lands in my collection I'm putting them in the deck
I built a deck like this a week ago but I thought kylex exiled equal to the number of creatures so I focused on putting a bunch of tokens on the field. I've had it for a week and I just realized it's based on power. The card has so much text I built a deck and played it a ton without reading all of it. Anyways, I'll leave it as is, it's pretty strong.
Grade A shame scope on that indestructible land.
Honestly, I love the Snarl lands. Also, don't be dissing my boi Homelands. Homelands, Fallen Empires, and The Dark are my legit all time favourite sets. Next to the Lorwyn-Shadowmoor Block.
Seth, are you wearing an Amigo the Devil shirt? Super cool if so
you should build an arjun mill deck, its kinda budget friendly and has some fun jank
9:40 you could have pacted mastery. mastery would have left the stack, so you would have gotten one additional storm count without the need to pay for the upkeep trigger or missing out on any of the other spells
I play Ragavan because I'm free to play. But the flavor works because I've just cobbled together a bunch of junk i've managed to get my hands on and it's got like a 75% win rate. Just like the tricky munke. To be fair at least 20% of that win rate is salty scoops who see Ragavan or get their first two creatures burned and peace out.
Are you dissing on my land that grants "Bands with Other Legends"? 42:35
Do you think you’ll try a nonbudget(ish) version of this deck on Commander Clash?
"Is xxx number of mythic/rares budget?" - I mean, that kinda depends: are those mythic rares called Sheoldred, the Apocalypse or Admiral Brass, Unsinkable?
Because in Arena, the Sheoldred would be more budget as you probably already wildcarded her.
Considering the size of a brawl vs other constructed formats (100 vs 60 or 75), and the budget limit (15) as a percentage in those formats (25 or 20 percent), I wouldn't consider 29 rare budget. That's not even factoring the less competitive nature of brawl, which would lead me to consider 20 rares/mythics the limit on a historic brawl deck.
Twinferno is a strictly-better* Doublecast.
* Unless you really want a sorcery-speed version of the same effect that is harder to cast because of double red pips and doesn't have a mode that can give a creature Double Strike.
I actually think Brawl is pretty budget-friendly just because it's a singleton deck. You don't need to spend four wildcards for a playset of a card you'll only play in one deck, but you find a collection of cards you can use in multiple decks instead. So I think year, 30 rares for this deck is pretty budget-okay.
Definitely a card that most embraces the Izzet ethos: Okay, _if_ this works its going to be _spectacular_!
Personal opinion: I prefer Snarls over Pathways, by many many times.
Also I would consider a copy of Introduction to Annihilation in this deck. You rightfully pointed out that Izzet has a lot of trouble dealing with Enchantments, and the Lesson gives you an out to that.
Since Budget Magic is 20% of the list (if you count sideboards - 15/75) or 25% (if you don't count them - 15/60), I would assume a Budget Brawl deck still falls in that same range, so in the 20-25 Rares+Mythics range.
I hate Snarls.
@@MTGGoldfish I noticed :D But I think half my problem with Pathways is that they were Rare, and IMO Rare Duals should always be able to tap for either colour at any time. The fact that they don't - but Common duals do! - makes them feel like SUCH a feel bad to me. I might as well replace them with, idk.. Fabled Passage or Terramorphic Expanse or something similar! Snarls can tap for either colour when you need it and can potentially enter untapped, so I'd rather have that over a Pathway any day.
5:50 points to Explosive Welcome, calls it Mizzix's Mastery. Mistake or troll to get comments. Well played, sir. Well played.
The lack of thousand year storm in this makes me sad.
Any room for experimental overload in here?
I'm forever calling shame scooping, shooping
I think 20-25 rares is the top end of Budget Brawl decks.
Personally I would call 20 rares and mythics, outside of the mana base a budget deck
damn i’ve been reading kylox wrong this entire time xd thought it was based off the number of creatures not power
I think in 2nd game concede was a correct play, seeing a copy spell used this way suggests there are a lot of copy spells and having the copy deck be ahead in mana the odds of winning plummet. You have to respect your time and since the game didn't even begin why not reset and go for more even playing field.
lol it's not a competitive format, fishing for wins makes no sense.
@@jeffe2267 It's not fishing for wins, it's going for even playing field. Sometimes you get no lands or all lands draws, no reason to stay. This game copy deck getting this of an advantage means no hope of winning, you're playing for someone else. Games are most fun when winning chance is at 50%, not at 10% or 90%
20 R/M is probably the line for budget Brawl
Yeah, that might be a good cut off for a 100 card deck.
@@MTGGoldfishdoes budget mean minimum amount of rares to be competitive in the format or amount of rares non-whale players find reasonable to spend?
If it's the latter then I would expect the rare budget to stay the same across formats, right?
not casting grapeshot at a stormcount of 29 should be illegal
Hello Seth
why not copy minds desire?
9:20 Noooooo! Copy the Mizzix's Mastery again!
Wtf is Bugler Rat?
Insane how quick arena zoomers scoop lol. Arifact destruction fizzled after ramping 4 more mana out than your opponent? Gotta scoop
I’d say budget for 100 would be 20-25, personally, but you’re probably gonna get 50 different answers.
That player probably runs The End specifically as rats hate.
at 9:18 why not Mind's Desire and then Expansion it?
Expansion can only copy a cmc 4 or less. Even if it could though, the copy isn’t cast so instead it’s better to draw 2 make 2 treasure in case the minds desire just hits another land
@@anthonyellison5998 ahhhh, ty
bugler does not equal burglar
honestly the purposefully bad mana-base kind of makes it a little less entertaining I think people know if they want to make a more budget version they should look at the manabase first but I guess maybe to not misrepresent what your showcasing it's a necessary evil regardless good video I just get disappointed when easily castable cards are uncastable and the manabase being so tapped for little reason
Omg first how
Not playing 1000 year storm...
The problem with 1000 year storm is that it's an enchantment. He plays a lot of expensive instants and sorceries because he has ways of casting them for free. 1000 year storm costs too much and doesn't synergize with his combo in a way that's worth sacrificing a card slot for it instead of a spell that'll add to his storm count, especially since his spells don't storm well without his combo due to their price. The biggest downside of 1000 year storm is that it just happens to be the worst card type for storming, Necropotence being an exception to this rule.
"You can get away with playing cheaper cards" nah, you cant. People are more sweaty and tryhard on Arena than even in Vintage.
Anyone else sick of playing against Mythweaver Poq and Verdant Rejuvenation?
Lol game 2
I would never play this in paper
In my opinion budget for historical brawl should be :
At most 6 mythic
At most 12 rare
Around 24 uncommon
Around 48 common
At least 10 basic lands
I find the idea of doing budget Historic Brawl to be an absolute nerf for you. You go in there with all the cards you've collected and try to have either a degen combo deck, something insane, or whatever. So hearing you do budget for this format makes no sense, just like an old school player limiting themselves with EDH.
DAY ONE OF ASKING TO DO THE CALEBDAR PLUS AL WILL BE ONE
What?
I don’t give a shit about budget personally. I want to see good cards and stupid hard to pull off nonsense.
Was playing some historic brawl this morning and opponent rush Planeswalker Ral ultimate with the deal 4 damage to target emblem whenever you cast a spell. Unfortunately they didn’t respect my leyline of sanctity and I chose not to play anything targetable so they ended up killing themselves