In family, medical, and religious situations I just do the Ron Swanson and hand them my permit that reads "I can do what I want." Jokes aside, nobody I've known cares and several people at my church and in my family smoke pipes and cigars.
I’ve smoked a pipe for over a decade, from the mountains of Afghanistan to the plains of Nebraska and everywhere in between. I’ve yet to come in contact with someone who did not either admire or reflecting fondly on a memory of a relative who also smoked a pipe. Keep on piping, keep the flame alive! 🔥
I’ve been getting into pipe smoking in the past months, and I’m incredibly grateful that I attend a wonderful Anglican Church where we can meet and fellowship with pipes and cigars! This video is great, and as Spurgeon said “I will smoke to the glory of God!”
Thank you Wilson. Just happened upon your channel. I am a man of 68. Been enjoying pipe smoking since I was in my teens. Never flaunted it. I usually light up when I am alone or at home. Been working the same job for 15 years now and for the most part my workmates have no clue of my hobby. If I was going to get a failing medical condition from it I'm sure that I'd be aware of it long ago. My PCP says that I should quit it just for the fact that it could effect my health. But so could drinking a diet coke. As a matter of fact I feel that it has helped me in life more than hurt me with just the fact of slowing down, sitting, relaxing and pondering about my life, my decisions and life's challenges ahead of me.
I started smoking a pipe last year when I turned 50. I have never smoked anything before, but had always been fascinated by pipes and the smell of pipe tobacco. I am an undertaker by trade, and so I see life from a different perspective. My argument is that one day I am going to die, and I am good with this. I think it's better to die having lived a life you have enjoyed, than living to very old age and suffering with dementia or alzheimers. My pipe journey is proving to be a wonderful journey of discovery, not only learning what I enjoy, but also what I really don't. I accept that my health may be impacted one day, and there is empirical scientific evidence to support that there increased risks of esophageal cancers associated with pipe smoking. But I am not going to live forever, so I accept that. Alan Harrelson made a great video a few months ago with the message that children ask permission, men don't, and I agree with that. However we must also be respectful of other peoples air, space and environment, and set the example. Pipe smokers should act as gentlemen and be courteous. By educating those around us, as to why we enjoy our pipes we can also perpetuate the idea among others. Here in the UK pipe smokers seem to be a rare thing now, and brick and mortar stores are few and far between. So I am grateful to the YTPC, for the great videos that we share.
I couldn't have put it better myself. I've smoked a pipe on and off for 40 years and am aware of the risks. As one gets older l think it is important to grab life by the horns in the knowledge that death will come sooner rather than later. I think that a life lived in fear is a life half- lived. In other words, carpe diem, in the sure and certain knowledge that the Grim Reaper will get us in the end. Having a religious faith, Christian or otherwise, seems to mitigate this fear.
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I grew up with the "I don't drink, smoke, or chew or hang out with those who do" mentality. I choose not to drink alcohol, have never been drunk or high. But I have always been fascinated by pipes. I've had the guilty feelings about it too. But I do it so infrequently I'm not really concerned. God knows my heart and he can read my mind. I only do it at home or maybe on vacation.
I mentioned my interest in cigars and pipes to my very dear Reformed friend in Ukraine, and she thought it was interesting. She shared with me that a couple years ago she began smoking cigarettes about once a week, and occasionally drinking alcohol as usual. But with the war and relationship problems, she took to cigarettes and alcohol as an unhealthy coping mechanism, and it became a daily thing for her. She quit cigarettes and now again only drinks in moderation for the flavors and smells. But it's a great illustration of what you're talking about. There's a huge difference between partaking in alcohol and tobacco as an art and way to explore the incredible flavors and scents God has created, and just using them mindlessly and as an escape. I think it does a lot of good for kids too, to see adults partaking of these things as a thing of art and responsibility, not just seeing it as a means to getting drunk or something to do to look cool. Instead of telling people to avoid it at all costs because you might misuse them, show people how to NOT abuse them and how to glorify God with them. Giving people maturity instead of limitations. Same as you don't teach people sex is bad and you should never do it because it can be abused, you instead teach them about marriage and train them in the spiritual and relational skills they need for marriage.
With pipe smoking, as with other things, moderation is the key. It is not sinful if we remember to use moderation (as with alcohol). But I have never seen a "chain" pipe smoker or anyone who has become addicted to the tobacco pipe. Unfortunately, many people equate pipe smoking with cigarettes, where there is no comparison to make. God bless brother.
Excellent discussion, Wilson! I especially appreciate your emphasis on approaching people with some grace, the chance for education, and honesty about the risks. My sister was so concerned because her father-in-law died from COPD after a lifetime of very heavy cigarette smoking. So nicotine addicted that when he was forced to quit he had to constantly chew nicotine gum, even while falling asleep. She was surprised to learn that pipe and cigar smokers don’t normally inhale, and many of us avoid getting too much nicotine because it can make us feel unwell. Unlike cigarettes, it’s pretty hard to weave pipe smoking into our days enough to become addicted. Proof? If I can’t smoke a pipe every day I’m not jonesing for a hit of nicotine. Finally, I pointed out that our uncles who smoked pipes lived long lives and eventually succumbed to diet issues, not tobacco. Learning this allayed her concerns. Learning this allayed her concerns.
Sry to hear that one of your family members died due to cigarettes. Fortunately your uncles chose pipes over cigarettes and lives. Cigarettes have tarnished all so I'm trying to extract negative images on pipes and cigars. It's really hard step though I always post 'Don't ever inhale. Even though it's vaping' on my blog . Well I smoke cigarettes as well.. ironically. But I only smoke 1mg tar cigarettes now.
@@JinnYoungKim thank you! Long ago I smoked cigarettes, started smoking a pipe 31 years after I quit cigarettes. It would be hard not to inhale if I was used to inhaling cigarette smoke. I guess it is good I took a break for 31 years! 😂
I'm a pretty sarcastic guy and when my mother in law tried to press me on pipe smoking I had to shut her down. She said something along the lines of "thats how it starts" and I shot back with "yeah, I already plan to slam heroine next!" Haha she didn't think it was very funny but she got the point
I recently started pipe smoking and was texting my cousin who has been a pipe smoker for many moons when I asked him why he started pipe smoking. His response (in jest) was, "Because I wanted to get into meth so I figured I need to start with something more accessible first." My mother-in-law and I are on really good terms so I think I could get away with this kind of response to slow down the guilt trip then have a real discussion.
If someone asks me why I'm smoking a pipe (in a condescending way), I just say back to them "so I can live longer than you." Then I watch in amusement as their eyes glaze over while desperately trying to rationalize such a bold statement that violates a lifetime of programming on every level. It's like watching a robot get caught in a feedback loop. Honestly, they're some of my favorite interactions...just another perk to add to the long list of pipe smoking.
I personally enjoy the leaf of all kinds and tbh i pray regularly i handle my thing with god most times when im alone thinking i end up talking to him and giving the praise of the session to him amd thank him for the lovely bowl and the talk iv even hoped there could come a time where i could sit with my father in heaven and maybe share a pipe if only once and talk about life existance and the human experience maybe thats wrong idk im just a man but its my personal experience
Well done man. You are spot on. Don't flaunt it. Don't hide it. My wife doesn't love it, but we both give to compromise with one another. She doesn't raise a stink at me smoking. And I try not to raise a stink at her with my smoking (I smoke outside, good hygiene, keeping pipes in boxes to avoid smell, etc). It's working well since we both respect the other.
Same. She knows that it helps to center me. I wasn't a pipe smoker when we met but I did like the occasional cigar. Sometimes I'll smoke an aromatic (I smoke in the basement with the door open) and she'll come down, I'll say "smells pretty good huh?" and she'll always say, "no, it smells like smoke". But she doesn't complain.
I’d like to do the same, not hide from the wife that is. I have a large shoe box where I keep my pipes to avoid smell and my handful of jars sit on my office windowsill shaded from the sun. Like Wilson said, I’m probably imagining friction when there won’t be. She’s likely to be more upset that it’s hidden than that it’s being done
Thanks for the video, Wilson. I just turned 60 last month and have been pipe smoking for the past couple of years. I’d tried it in my 20’s but stopped because I felt guilty. I grew up in a church that preached against, smoking, drinking, playing cards or pool, or going to the movies. I used to feel guilty about all of those things. I remember once, going to see “Jaws” when it first came out. My mom even told me, “Don’t say anything to your grandma about going to the movies.” Anyway, I said all of that just to say that it’s that type of guilt, not anything found in the Bible that has affected me my whole life. So, I’m the only 60 year old on the planet who doesn’t know how to play cards, feels guilty when tasting alcohol, and even when I smoke my pipe! So, thanks again for your thoughts on this. Keep up the good work and God Bless you brother! Oh, and my mom, who will be 80 in June still doesn’t like my pipe smoking and lays a guilt trip on my if I talk about being discouraged with my local church (which I grew up in.) Some things never change!
My wife and I found a new church when ours became more about religion and rules than about a relationship with the Lord. The one we attend now preaches from the Bible. I think any church has be rooted in God's word. But I'm learning how to walk with God seven days a week in spite of my shortcomings, and not just feeling guilty on Sunday morning. I'm not an expert on Christianity, far from it. But I do know that we are all flawed and imperfect in His sight. In my former churches I used to think I was the only one who was screwed up. But I'm learning that God loves us and wants to be in relationship with us even with our flaws. At Cedar Creek Church we like to say that we are all messed up, broken people but together we are helping each other find our way back to God. That works for me. I pray that you will find this for yourself too brother!
These are among the most informative and intelligent discussions I have heard in a long, long time. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience.
Spot on Wilson. God knows the heart, and as you say it's not what goes into our mouth but rather what proceeds from it which concerns Him most. May we remove the 2X4 in our own eye before pointing out the splinter in our neighbors.' All things made by God are good when used in moderation. Peace be with you brother!
Wilson, it’s amazing to me that they feel the need to voice their opinion to me. I certainly don’t, for instance California chased the tobacco industry out of their state. I have a friend who’s retired now because of this movement. He still lives there and I asked him what those people who questioned the pipes and cigars, think of the Marijuana smoking that they voted in to legalize just about everywhere. He said good question, he had no answer he said I had a good point he had never thought of it. Now we have nearly all the states have legalized it, and yet my pipe or cigar is the problem. Over half our population is morbidly overweight but I don’t shame them when the order a supersize meal w/ a Diet Coke. Maybe will learn to get along without (preaching) no pun intended our feelings about everyone else’s choices they make…. Good video 😎
Really appreciate you sharing your honest and authentic take on this topic - especially from both the health and faith perspectives. I’ve recently had the conversation with my young daughter about the difference in cigarette and pipe/cigar smoking when she asked why one was ‘bad’ and the latter ‘good’. Really appreciate you adding some more ‘real life’ discussions to your channel, in addition to your how-tos and reviews!
The discussion of health has been one that comes up between my wife and I. I think the important thing, as you essentially said, when broaching these topics is to handle them like Paul says in Ephesians 4, “to walk in a manner that is worthy of the calling you have been called to” He goes on to layout that humility, gentleness, patience and eagerness to maintain the unity of the Spirit are key aspects of living out our lives in a way that is worthy of the calling. Grace of course being part of that patience and gentleness. Thanks for your content.
Thankful for the video. I like how Spurgeon is said to have handled questions about his cigar smoking. I've even used him as an example when people questioned beards.
I am not a pastor or a theologist, but I do recall certain parts of the bible that say in summary everything to moderation. Alcohol was consumed at the last supper. There seems to be no issues with alcohol being flavored, alcohol being consumed. I am also fairly sure some of the burnt offerings and incense that got inhaled wasn't that great of stuff either. I also don't recall smoking a pipe impairing my judgement and allowing me to slam into a bus full of kids head-on. However do not destroy the holy temple God gave you which full inhalation would do. My mother got onto me about it and I told her that in my solitude with a pipe I probably spend more time talking to God and furthering my relationship with him than most do at night before bed, at meals, etc... Pipe smoking is a 30+ minute event and I have not personally witnessed anyone praying for that long. Plus the big factor, God knows what is in our hearts and in mine is not destroy or impede others. Just enjoy life, nature, friends, family and the simple yet totally fulfilling gifts we have in this world. There's my 2 pennies worth of thought.
I’m an Orthodox Christian who smokes cigars and is looking to get into pipes, my parish priest smokes a pipe. There are several elders, readers, deacons in my church who smoke pipes and/or cigars. One of them is a doctor, a Gastrointestinal physician, and he has told me that much of the highly processed crap food we eat is *way* more likely to give us diseases and the polluted air we breathe in cities than occasionally smoking a pipe or cigar. We should be more worried about if we are living an accordance with Christ’s commands and separating ourselves from the rest of the world to be closer to Him, not if we smoke pipes and cigars. It’s just silly and it is born out of ignorance and arrogance. God bless you, Pastor. I pray for your health and that the Holy Spirit guides you so that you may guide your local flock on the right path.
Very blessed that my wife supports my hobby, something I don't take for granted for sure. One thing i find interesting is that the people that are quick to be critical of pipe smoking also drink copius amounts of alcohol, processed foods, and the like.
Good conversation to have with the younger generation , pipe smoking goes back to 1910 in my family , my great grandfather 👴 used to smoke pipe , and they lived healthy and a prosperous life . My mom is 78 and when I sit with her while I'm smoking my pipe or even filling it , she would say your grandfather did this and that too. From 1995 when laws were been made on where to smoke and become a so called bad habit even our preachers and people of the church should smoke pipe , I'm talking about the things that happen in S.A and if you did not smoke you were not a man who cared for the land , 95 percent of farmers smoked some type of a tobacco product and we were proud . The Keyser pipe was made for the farmers of S.A which is a London based company pipe . I can speak on this topic for hours because of the intense research I've done on pipe smoking in MY country , the pros and cons 😅 Greetings and cheers 🍻 , God bless 🙌 and enjoy piping from a fellow pipe smoker in south africa 🇿🇦 ❤️
Thanks for your perspective on this it was a great help. doctors always ask now not if you smoke cigarettes but tobacco products. I try to educate them that I don't inhale and it brings your stress level down.
They are pushed by insurance companies to ask because insurance gets to charge a higher premium and/or the doctor or dentist can find a "sign" of cancer and push you to a specialist and get a kickback.
When I run into the "why do you smoke a pipe?" my usual response is "if it was good enough for Einstein, Tolkein a Lewis its good enough to me. That usually shuts them up fairly quickly.
Hey man. Just getting into pipe smoking and I've been watching your videos to learn (great stuff btw!). One thing that would be helpful to a viewer is that when you recommend videos for us other videos on your channel to watch, leaving a link to that video in your description would be awesome! For instance, you talk about the video where you brought in experts to talk about health of pipe smoking. Would be awesome to see a link to that video in the description. Keep up the good work. My first pipe (that I can call my own) should be coming in the mail tomorrow. Super exciting stuff! God bless!
In the 1960s, the Surgeon General fell short of recomending pipe smoking for a healthy life style. An old episode of NWPipesmoker, he's reading the report. Very entertaining.
I have hosted some cigar gatherings at youth ministry conferences over the years. I've found plenty of closeted cigar/pipe aficionados that will join in because they love gathering with others with the same enjoyment! Unfortunately there are always a few people that can get upset. The beautiful thing is that I don't think I've ever had a bad conversation at a cigar lounger or with brothers of the leaf! Blessings my Reformed brother!
For sure the lack of knowledge is an issue. The Government has a lot to do with it unfortunately.. One thing that gets me is alcohol is deemed acceptable but there are numerous health risks involved. Just like anything though the more you partake the worse it is for you
Even alcohol is not a problem… Jesus himself had not problem turning the water into wine…if tobacco was in use those days, I’m sure he would have turned a bale of straw into an excellent blend! 😂
Pipe smoking also conveys some benefits--it gifts us with a simple pleasure, it can provide moments of true relaxation/focus/reflection, and it even can expand our social circle. Illuminating our opponents with these considerations can help ease the objections.
I read a scientific paper, a study on nonsmokers vs cigar smokers who smoke no more then 2 cigars a day. The study found no difference between the two groups when it comes to disease. This study I found had to be suppressed to do anti smoking agendas not pure science. Live in Florida. Anti tobacco tv commercials that are titled " Tobacco Free Florida "
People have generally been accepting in my experience. Any situation where I might have lit up a cigarillo a couple years ago, I can start up a pipe instead and any comments I get about it will be friendly and playful. Much the same as when I was mostly smoking cigars. I had a boss who was a pastor that always told my colleagues who smoked cigarettes that they should quit, but when asked why he never said much to me he replied that cigars are different. Picking up the pipe has been more of the same. In fact a lady friend who objected to my cigar smoking was more open to my pipe smoking. The only negative interaction I had about it was from some random stranger who passed me in a roundabout and questioned why I was smoking a pipe while driving. Which is wierd because if you have a candle or pipe lighter handy smoking a pipe is safer to do while driving than smoking a cigarette. And people smoke cigarettes all the time.
only been pipe smoking for a year. I'm a regular cigar smoker though. Either way it's hard in California haha ..pipes seem to be a little more acceptable since aromatics smell better to most people. I like them because I can set it down and continue smoking later (ex. at work) and the fact pipes look cool and classy lol
I ask them if they believe dementia is worth waiting for? Id rather cancer at 65 than dementia at 68. Plus with cancer, the gov do not get your assets when you need care. Over here in the UK atleast.
Very fortunate that only my doctor tries to get me to stop pipe smoking. Have instructed her that it is not cigarette tobacco, and I don't inhale very often. Also fortunate that the nurse I'm dating now...her late husband was a pipe smoker. I refuse to smoke in her home or when we are in her vehicle. She will allow, and enjoys the aroma of pipe tobacco. Just me trying to be courteous to everyone. I do smoke when we are at my house or we are in my vehicle. Pipe smoking is a very relaxing to me and does help me from abusing other substances such as alcohol.
Big fan of your content. You put this video out the same day I got my pipe and tobacco. The first night I smoked my pipe my wife blasted me about 1 Corinthians, I'm gonna get cancer, how disgusting it is, saying it's the exact same thing as smoking. She told me she's never gonna kiss me again if I keep smoking. I appreciate the fact that you are a pastor and I can use your examples of grace to try to get through this issue with my wife. I believe this video was a divine appointment to help me get through this gracefully. Any more advice on how to calm a quarrelsome wife would be appreciated. Keep up the good work. God bless brother.
My answer to your difficult question would be to get your wife smoking a pipe! Yes, there are lots of women who enjoy the total experience of pipe-smoking! I belong to a pipe club in which there are female members. Good luck!
Personally I don't smoke around people. So nobody knows. I don't tell folks at church I enjoy pipe tobacco. So it is a private relaxing time for me. I have been smoking about a year and a half. Most of my life I didn't use it and most of my life is over I will not live as long as I have lived. So I enjoy the taste and reflecting on my day or think about things I need to do tomorrow. I enjoy your talks and I saw you on the pipe cottage.
Great Video! You made some excellent points in this video! People are going to condemn, no matter what that is just the human nature! It does not make it right, it is just people being people! There was only one perfect man & look at what they did to him! It is hard when someone is judging you or condemning you, I face it a lot of times over smoking a pipe! THANKS FOR SHARING WILSON! We ( the pipe smoking community) APPRECIATE YOU!
Hiyas Wilson, a great topic for thoughtful discussion. I definitely do not flaunt my pipe smoking. I don't hide it either, I am comfortable with my decision to be a committed piper. I too carefully watch what I eat and I exercise daily. Constant, uncontrollable high levels of stress and anxiety are far more dangerous to one's physical and mental well being in my humble opinion. ¡Moderation in all things! Malcolm Guite just posted a wonderful video on pipe smoking that I highly recommend. A great chat my friend, thank you. Serene piping, Gary
I saw a copy of a S. Renihan book in one of your thumbnails and just wanted to stop by and say I've been enjoying your videos the last few weeks as I've jumped back into smoking my pipe after a break. I'm a 1689 Federalist and especially enjoy seeing ways you sneak different books into the videos/thumbnails. I'm guessing you've seen C.S. Lewis' quote on the joys of working through a bit of tough theology with a pipe in your teeth and a pencil in your hand. It's one of my favorites.
Thank you. I am still waiting for the “financial” perspective on pipe smoking. I have recently learned about the “ tobacco surcharge” under the ACA. Care to comment?
People don't shame me for riding snowmobiles or dirt bikes or any other high risk hobby... but these things are way more likely to kill me than a pipe... I don't think pipe smoking is 100% safe of course, but people's reaction to these things is completely emotionally compromised and has nothing to do with facts. They just have been brainwashed into thinking tobacco is all bad.
Wilson, I look forward to your extended video on smoking and the Bible. Our Church bans me from leading a Bible class/group because I "smoke" a pipe; lol at my age I have no desire to do that anyway.
Thank you for your practical wisdom about pipe smoking .. perhaps you could help me with something that, as a Christian, I've been asking myself, namely .. Is the immense enjoyment I get from smoking a great tobacco out of a great pipe - a gift from God? .. Is it a divine blessing upon me and upon my family, friends and world? .. and, if it is .. should I be bowing in prayer and giving thanks every time I am about to light my pipe? .. Do you give thanks before you light your pipes? Many thanks for your continuing gentle guidance. - seraphim
Great discussion. Thank you! Sometimes its helpful to do the research. So, weight is an independent risk factor and smoking is a vaso-constrictor. Those are both facts. That said, eating fatty pulled pork is unhealthy. Too much dark chocolate has issues, and too much milk chocolate has other issues. Wine is tasty and so is beer, but there are downsides. So, you know, life is to be lived in balance. I smoke one to two pipes a day. This is statistically far less harmful than the average pack of cigarettes. We don’t tend to inhale. We tend to be welcomed when people are around us - that’s either an interesting latakia-forward blend, or a cozy aromatic. Is smoking one or two pipefulls a day harmful? Sure. Maybe. So is anxiety. So is a lot of eating in America. I went to a major theological seminary, graduated with a M.Div. and was a pastor for 24 years. I am confused about how the Bible enters into any discussion of tobacco use. Why do we get so out of balance? The judgment of other people is killing us. The people who say ‘should’ or ‘ought’ all the time, who speak ‘for’ God or the universe. This is always an issue of boundaries. People with loose boundaries who somehow think they get to speak to someone else about stuff that is not in their lane. I appreciate the video.
I look forward to your vid on Christian liberty, I’m a former Pres (pca) elder, I love that you say we need to handle their concerns with Grace, most people in our lives say something because they care, however misguided or ignorant. Even that they care enough to be willing to offend is beautiful thing. Thank you for your content. God bless.
Kinda funny to hear ya say that hamburgers are bad for you, that you don’t have to be a doctor to know that hamburgers aren’t good for your health. I’m 43. I was a vegan/vegetarian for 12 years, and only started eating meat again around age 38. When vegetarian, I ate very healthy - salads, lots of veggies, etc. Not much of the processed garbage. Now, I eat high-quality grass-fed beef, and I’ve never felt better in my life. Any physical issue I had before has disappeared. My cholesterol (and other health factors) is just about as good as could be. My siblings and father (all vegetarian), on the other hand, have high cholesterol and blood pressure issues. I don’t buy the “beef is bad” argument for a second. 😊
Quick question SP, how do we approach pipe smoking when it comes to Romans 14-15 in catering to the weaker brother? Is that just when it comes to spiritual matters?
How could the Bible be against (or even pro) pipe smoking, when tobacco wasn’t in use when those texts were written😅 (at least in the old world) As you’ve mentioned Mark 7:18 is as clear as can be.
Everything God made is good. Tobacco is a natural God made thing. End of argument. Be yourself. You’ll never be able to please everyone….nor should you try.
I had to explain that I neither need nor require their approval. Of course after over 30 years of piping off and on, they knew it was a snake when they picked it up.
So, the Church I’ve been going to has literally performed an intervention on one of their members to stop him from smoking a pipe. They’ve done something very similar to me when I was engaged to someone they didn’t approve of. I want to be faithful to Jesus but, I think this Church will basically say, “It’s Jesus or the pipe.” That might be coming soon too.
Well done sir. Concerning 1Cor. 6:19, I've had that one brought up often - usually for anything that someone else is doing that they don't like. 😁 As I was told by one of my teachers many years ago: The first 3 rules of Biblical interpretation are: Context, Context, and Context. So when Paul brings up the subject of our body being a temple of the Holy Spirit, what is the context of that statement? It's the idea of a believer being in a sexual relationship with a non believer outside of marriage (In this case, a prostitute). And how that relationship is actually attempting to bring the very Spirit of God into an unholy alliance if you will. And what does he say before that? "12 All things are lawful for me, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be mastered by anything. 13 Food is for the stomach and the stomach is for food, but God will do away with both of them. Yet the body is not for immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord is for the body." That verse that they so often quote is very specific in it's application. And it shouldn't be used like a bludgeon to enforce their own Pharisaic prejudices. But they do... Anyway, God bless you and yours.
I would love for you to talk about Christian liberty. I'm reformed now, but coming up in a broader evangelical context, anything to do with tobacco was a sin. I think Christians in general are very confused about law and gospel, and Christian liberty. I know I sure was until I began to be reformed.
My wife has been a little worried because I just started pipe smoking. But we came to a compromise that makes her feel better about it. I can only do it on the weekends. And she can cut me off if she thinks it's becoming a problem.
Life is a very short stretch.. some pass young without notice and yes, from cancers while never smoking.. some live over 90 while smoking.. tomorrow is not a guarantee. you do you.. as popeye always said, I Yam What I Yam...
In family, medical, and religious situations I just do the Ron Swanson and hand them my permit that reads "I can do what I want." Jokes aside, nobody I've known cares and several people at my church and in my family smoke pipes and cigars.
Words to live by.
That is hilarious. I love him lol
I’ve smoked a pipe for over a decade, from the mountains of Afghanistan to the plains of Nebraska and everywhere in between. I’ve yet to come in contact with someone who did not either admire or reflecting fondly on a memory of a relative who also smoked a pipe.
Keep on piping, keep the flame alive! 🔥
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I’ve been getting into pipe smoking in the past months, and I’m incredibly grateful that I attend a wonderful Anglican Church where we can meet and fellowship with pipes and cigars! This video is great, and as Spurgeon said “I will smoke to the glory of God!”
I just smile, raise my pipe and nod like you would in a greeting or good morning and carry on puffing
Thank you Wilson. Just happened upon your channel.
I am a man of 68. Been enjoying pipe smoking since I was in my teens. Never flaunted it. I usually light up when I am alone or at home. Been working the same job for 15 years now and for the most part my workmates have no clue of my hobby. If I was going to get a failing medical condition from it I'm sure that I'd be aware of it long ago. My PCP says that I should quit it just for the fact that it could effect my health. But so could drinking a diet coke. As a matter of fact I feel that it has helped me in life more than hurt me with just the fact of slowing down, sitting, relaxing and pondering about my life, my decisions and life's challenges ahead of me.
I started smoking a pipe last year when I turned 50. I have never smoked anything before, but had always been fascinated by pipes and the smell of pipe tobacco. I am an undertaker by trade, and so I see life from a different perspective. My argument is that one day I am going to die, and I am good with this. I think it's better to die having lived a life you have enjoyed, than living to very old age and suffering with dementia or alzheimers. My pipe journey is proving to be a wonderful journey of discovery, not only learning what I enjoy, but also what I really don't. I accept that my health may be impacted one day, and there is empirical scientific evidence to support that there increased risks of esophageal cancers associated with pipe smoking. But I am not going to live forever, so I accept that. Alan Harrelson made a great video a few months ago with the message that children ask permission, men don't, and I agree with that. However we must also be respectful of other peoples air, space and environment, and set the example. Pipe smokers should act as gentlemen and be courteous. By educating those around us, as to why we enjoy our pipes we can also perpetuate the idea among others. Here in the UK pipe smokers seem to be a rare thing now, and brick and mortar stores are few and far between. So I am grateful to the YTPC, for the great videos that we share.
I couldn't have put it better myself. I've smoked a pipe on and off for 40 years and am aware of the risks. As one gets older l think it is important to grab life by the horns in the knowledge that death will come sooner rather than later.
I think that a life lived in fear is a life half- lived. In other words, carpe diem, in the sure and certain knowledge that the Grim Reaper will get us in the end. Having a religious faith, Christian or otherwise, seems to mitigate this fear.
😊Great Comment ! I'm glad you took up Pipe Smoking at 50 u won't regret it , between us it's Little Rewarding Life Hack ! It puts a Balance on everything , makes Things better ! especially what job you do ! it's Happy Hobby isn't it , also I'm In the UK as well & there are more Pipeys than we know ! I know a good few 100 in here in the UK ...I just wanted to reach out & say hi & welcome to "THE PIPE LIFE & YTPC.✋😤☝️
I’m 52 never smoked a day in my life. I’m starting this pipe journey now, and I love it.
I grew up with the "I don't drink, smoke, or chew or hang out with those who do" mentality. I choose not to drink alcohol, have never been drunk or high. But I have always been fascinated by pipes. I've had the guilty feelings about it too. But I do it so infrequently I'm not really concerned. God knows my heart and he can read my mind. I only do it at home or maybe on vacation.
I mentioned my interest in cigars and pipes to my very dear Reformed friend in Ukraine, and she thought it was interesting. She shared with me that a couple years ago she began smoking cigarettes about once a week, and occasionally drinking alcohol as usual. But with the war and relationship problems, she took to cigarettes and alcohol as an unhealthy coping mechanism, and it became a daily thing for her. She quit cigarettes and now again only drinks in moderation for the flavors and smells. But it's a great illustration of what you're talking about. There's a huge difference between partaking in alcohol and tobacco as an art and way to explore the incredible flavors and scents God has created, and just using them mindlessly and as an escape.
I think it does a lot of good for kids too, to see adults partaking of these things as a thing of art and responsibility, not just seeing it as a means to getting drunk or something to do to look cool. Instead of telling people to avoid it at all costs because you might misuse them, show people how to NOT abuse them and how to glorify God with them. Giving people maturity instead of limitations. Same as you don't teach people sex is bad and you should never do it because it can be abused, you instead teach them about marriage and train them in the spiritual and relational skills they need for marriage.
With pipe smoking, as with other things, moderation is the key. It is not sinful if we remember to use moderation (as with alcohol). But I have never seen a "chain" pipe smoker or anyone who has become addicted to the tobacco pipe. Unfortunately, many people equate pipe smoking with cigarettes, where there is no comparison to make.
God bless brother.
Excellent discussion, Wilson! I especially appreciate your emphasis on approaching people with some grace, the chance for education, and honesty about the risks. My sister was so concerned because her father-in-law died from COPD after a lifetime of very heavy cigarette smoking. So nicotine addicted that when he was forced to quit he had to constantly chew nicotine gum, even while falling asleep. She was surprised to learn that pipe and cigar smokers don’t normally inhale, and many of us avoid getting too much nicotine because it can make us feel unwell. Unlike cigarettes, it’s pretty hard to weave pipe smoking into our days enough to become addicted. Proof? If I can’t smoke a pipe every day I’m not jonesing for a hit of nicotine. Finally, I pointed out that our uncles who smoked pipes lived long lives and eventually succumbed to diet issues, not tobacco. Learning this allayed her concerns. Learning this allayed her concerns.
Sry to hear that one of your family members died due to cigarettes.
Fortunately your uncles chose pipes over cigarettes and lives.
Cigarettes have tarnished all so I'm trying to extract negative images on pipes and cigars. It's really hard step though I always post 'Don't ever inhale. Even though it's vaping' on my blog .
Well I smoke cigarettes as well.. ironically. But I only smoke 1mg tar cigarettes now.
@@JinnYoungKim thank you!
Long ago I smoked cigarettes, started smoking a pipe 31 years after I quit cigarettes. It would be hard not to inhale if I was used to inhaling cigarette smoke. I guess it is good I took a break for 31 years! 😂
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Why do you care about convincing others it's ok? Just find yourself a spot to enjoy , don't subject others to your smoke,
We don’t have to leave people ignorant of the differences, even if we aren’t swayed by their concerns.
I'm a pretty sarcastic guy and when my mother in law tried to press me on pipe smoking I had to shut her down. She said something along the lines of "thats how it starts" and I shot back with "yeah, I already plan to slam heroine next!" Haha she didn't think it was very funny but she got the point
I recently started pipe smoking and was texting my cousin who has been a pipe smoker for many moons when I asked him why he started pipe smoking. His response (in jest) was, "Because I wanted to get into meth so I figured I need to start with something more accessible first."
My mother-in-law and I are on really good terms so I think I could get away with this kind of response to slow down the guilt trip then have a real discussion.
If someone asks me why I'm smoking a pipe (in a condescending way), I just say back to them "so I can live longer than you." Then I watch in amusement as their eyes glaze over while desperately trying to rationalize such a bold statement that violates a lifetime of programming on every level. It's like watching a robot get caught in a feedback loop. Honestly, they're some of my favorite interactions...just another perk to add to the long list of pipe smoking.
I personally enjoy the leaf of all kinds and tbh i pray regularly i handle my thing with god most times when im alone thinking i end up talking to him and giving the praise of the session to him amd thank him for the lovely bowl and the talk iv even hoped there could come a time where i could sit with my father in heaven and maybe share a pipe if only once and talk about life existance and the human experience maybe thats wrong idk im just a man but its my personal experience
Thank you for taking the Christian approach and not being afraid to discuss it on RUclips!
Well done man. You are spot on. Don't flaunt it. Don't hide it.
My wife doesn't love it, but we both give to compromise with one another. She doesn't raise a stink at me smoking. And I try not to raise a stink at her with my smoking (I smoke outside, good hygiene, keeping pipes in boxes to avoid smell, etc). It's working well since we both respect the other.
Same. She knows that it helps to center me. I wasn't a pipe smoker when we met but I did like the occasional cigar. Sometimes I'll smoke an aromatic (I smoke in the basement with the door open) and she'll come down, I'll say "smells pretty good huh?" and she'll always say, "no, it smells like smoke". But she doesn't complain.
I’d like to do the same, not hide from the wife that is. I have a large shoe box where I keep my pipes to avoid smell and my handful of jars sit on my office windowsill shaded from the sun. Like Wilson said, I’m probably imagining friction when there won’t be. She’s likely to be more upset that it’s hidden than that it’s being done
Our Anglican Vicar pretty much keeps it on the down low, but when the church men get together and cook meat, pipes spring alive as we fellowship!
Thanks for the video, Wilson. I just turned 60 last month and have been pipe smoking for the past couple of years. I’d tried it in my 20’s but stopped because I felt guilty. I grew up in a church that preached against, smoking, drinking, playing cards or pool, or going to the movies. I used to feel guilty about all of those things. I remember once, going to see “Jaws” when it first came out. My mom even told me, “Don’t say anything to your grandma about going to the movies.” Anyway, I said all of that just to say that it’s that type of guilt, not anything found in the Bible that has affected me my whole life. So, I’m the only 60 year old on the planet who doesn’t know how to play cards, feels guilty when tasting alcohol, and even when I smoke my pipe! So, thanks again for your thoughts on this. Keep up the good work and God Bless you brother! Oh, and my mom, who will be 80 in June still doesn’t like my pipe smoking and lays a guilt trip on my if I talk about being discouraged with my local church (which I grew up in.) Some things never change!
My wife and I found a new church when ours became more about religion and rules than about a relationship with the Lord. The one we attend now preaches from the Bible. I think any church has be rooted in God's word. But I'm learning how to walk with God seven days a week in spite of my shortcomings, and not just feeling guilty on Sunday morning. I'm not an expert on Christianity, far from it. But I do know that we are all flawed and imperfect in His sight. In my former churches I used to think I was the only one who was screwed up. But I'm learning that God loves us and wants to be in relationship with us even with our flaws. At Cedar Creek Church we like to say that we are all messed up, broken people but together we are helping each other find our way back to God. That works for me. I pray that you will find this for yourself too brother!
@@robsmart5843 thanks so much!
These are among the most informative and intelligent discussions I have heard in a long, long time. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience.
You have dealt with difficult topics in a very sensitive way. Congratulations, a well done video
I would recommend two reads:
- “Tobacco and the Soul” Foley, 1997
- “Toward a Theology of Pipe Smoking” Yunker, 1970
Spot on Wilson. God knows the heart, and as you say it's not what goes into our mouth but rather what proceeds from it which concerns Him most. May we remove the 2X4 in our own eye before pointing out the splinter in our neighbors.' All things made by God are good when used in moderation. Peace be with you brother!
Wilson, it’s amazing to me that they feel the need to voice their opinion to me. I certainly don’t, for instance California chased the tobacco industry out of their state. I have a friend who’s retired now because of this movement. He still lives there and I asked him what those people who questioned the pipes and cigars, think of the Marijuana smoking that they voted in to legalize just about everywhere. He said good question, he had no answer he said I had a good point he had never thought of it. Now we have nearly all the states have legalized it, and yet my pipe or cigar is the problem. Over half our population is morbidly overweight but I don’t shame them when the order a supersize meal w/ a Diet Coke. Maybe will learn to get along without (preaching) no pun intended our feelings about everyone else’s choices they make…. Good video 😎
Well said Wilson. Not agreeing because I'm a pipe smoker, but these are simply the facts. Thanks for the video man, always good to see you.
Really appreciate you sharing your honest and authentic take on this topic - especially from both the health and faith perspectives. I’ve recently had the conversation with my young daughter about the difference in cigarette and pipe/cigar smoking when she asked why one was ‘bad’ and the latter ‘good’. Really appreciate you adding some more ‘real life’ discussions to your channel, in addition to your how-tos and reviews!
Very well done and most definitely something that needs to be discussed.
The discussion of health has been one that comes up between my wife and I. I think the important thing, as you essentially said, when broaching these topics is to handle them like Paul says in Ephesians 4, “to walk in a manner that is worthy of the calling you have been called to” He goes on to layout that humility, gentleness, patience and eagerness to maintain the unity of the Spirit are key aspects of living out our lives in a way that is worthy of the calling. Grace of course being part of that patience and gentleness. Thanks for your content.
Thankful for the video. I like how Spurgeon is said to have handled questions about his cigar smoking. I've even used him as an example when people questioned beards.
I received ridicule when I took up the pipe at age 16, im now 71, I ignored them at 16, and nothing has changed.
I am not a pastor or a theologist, but I do recall certain parts of the bible that say in summary everything to moderation. Alcohol was consumed at the last supper. There seems to be no issues with alcohol being flavored, alcohol being consumed. I am also fairly sure some of the burnt offerings and incense that got inhaled wasn't that great of stuff either. I also don't recall smoking a pipe impairing my judgement and allowing me to slam into a bus full of kids head-on. However do not destroy the holy temple God gave you which full inhalation would do. My mother got onto me about it and I told her that in my solitude with a pipe I probably spend more time talking to God and furthering my relationship with him than most do at night before bed, at meals, etc... Pipe smoking is a 30+ minute event and I have not personally witnessed anyone praying for that long. Plus the big factor, God knows what is in our hearts and in mine is not destroy or impede others. Just enjoy life, nature, friends, family and the simple yet totally fulfilling gifts we have in this world. There's my 2 pennies worth of thought.
I’m an Orthodox Christian who smokes cigars and is looking to get into pipes, my parish priest smokes a pipe. There are several elders, readers, deacons in my church who smoke pipes and/or cigars. One of them is a doctor, a Gastrointestinal physician, and he has told me that much of the highly processed crap food we eat is *way* more likely to give us diseases and the polluted air we breathe in cities than occasionally smoking a pipe or cigar. We should be more worried about if we are living an accordance with Christ’s commands and separating ourselves from the rest of the world to be closer to Him, not if we smoke pipes and cigars. It’s just silly and it is born out of ignorance and arrogance.
God bless you, Pastor. I pray for your health and that the Holy Spirit guides you so that you may guide your local flock on the right path.
100% agree. I have a doctor in my congregation and he has made the same statement.
I appreciate the support!
From own pastor to another I appreciate you taking on the topic it needed a discussion....you covered it will
Very blessed that my wife supports my hobby, something I don't take for granted for sure.
One thing i find interesting is that the people that are quick to be critical of pipe smoking also drink copius amounts of alcohol, processed foods, and the like.
Good conversation to have with the younger generation , pipe smoking goes back to 1910 in my family , my great grandfather 👴 used to smoke pipe , and they lived healthy and a prosperous life .
My mom is 78 and when I sit with her while I'm smoking my pipe or even filling it , she would say your grandfather did this and that too. From 1995 when laws were been made on where to smoke and become a so called bad habit even our preachers and people of the church should smoke pipe , I'm talking about the things that happen in S.A and if you did not smoke you were not a man who cared for the land , 95 percent of farmers smoked some type of a tobacco product
and we were proud . The Keyser pipe was made for the farmers of S.A which is a London based company pipe . I can speak on this topic for hours because of the intense research I've done on pipe smoking in MY country , the pros and cons 😅 Greetings and cheers 🍻 , God bless 🙌 and enjoy piping from a fellow pipe smoker in south africa 🇿🇦 ❤️
I appreciate your sensitivity about the subject. How we handle others concerning our own liberties really matters before the LORD.
This topic was very helpful.
As a newer pipe smoker, i'll be having these discussions more and more. Appreciated your insight!
Thanks for your perspective on this it was a great help. doctors always ask now not if you smoke cigarettes but tobacco products. I try to educate them that I don't inhale and it brings your stress level down.
I just say no now. I told one at the time I smoke a cigar maybe 5 times a year. OH Youre still a smoker!! Whatever.
I've had the opposite-only ask about cigarettes
They are pushed by insurance companies to ask because insurance gets to charge a higher premium and/or the doctor or dentist can find a "sign" of cancer and push you to a specialist and get a kickback.
When I run into the "why do you smoke a pipe?" my usual response is "if it was good enough for Einstein, Tolkein a Lewis its good enough to me. That usually shuts them up fairly quickly.
Entertaining idiots is bad for your health.
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If somebody is going to go with the our bodies being a temple argument I would explain how the temple was filled with smoke and burning incense. 😁
I've only ever smoked Briers but after this video I will definitely try a Meerschum one of these days. Thanks for the videos.
I love how you have been doing the lighting lately. It looks great.
Hey man. Just getting into pipe smoking and I've been watching your videos to learn (great stuff btw!). One thing that would be helpful to a viewer is that when you recommend videos for us other videos on your channel to watch, leaving a link to that video in your description would be awesome! For instance, you talk about the video where you brought in experts to talk about health of pipe smoking. Would be awesome to see a link to that video in the description. Keep up the good work. My first pipe (that I can call my own) should be coming in the mail tomorrow. Super exciting stuff! God bless!
Good recommendation Alex. I used to be better at doing that and got out of the habit.
I'll aim at doing that going forward
Great video. Thank you very much. I found this very helpful and it's a much needed subject that is rarely covered. Thanks for all you do.
In the 1960s, the Surgeon General fell short of recomending pipe smoking for a healthy life style. An old episode of NWPipesmoker, he's reading the report. Very entertaining.
I just tell people you do you and I do me!
I have hosted some cigar gatherings at youth ministry conferences over the years. I've found plenty of closeted cigar/pipe aficionados that will join in because they love gathering with others with the same enjoyment! Unfortunately there are always a few people that can get upset. The beautiful thing is that I don't think I've ever had a bad conversation at a cigar lounger or with brothers of the leaf! Blessings my Reformed brother!
Great chat and points. Thanks for sharing brother
Thank you, this helped looking forward to seeing more videos.
For sure the lack of knowledge is an issue. The Government has a lot to do with it unfortunately.. One thing that gets me is alcohol is deemed acceptable but there are numerous health risks involved. Just like anything though the more you partake the worse it is for you
Five percent of all deaths are alcohol related. Not to put a pun on it, but pack that in your pipe and smoke it!
Even alcohol is not a problem… Jesus himself had not problem turning the water into wine…if tobacco was in use those days, I’m sure he would have turned a bale of straw into an excellent blend! 😂
Pipe smoking also conveys some benefits--it gifts us with a simple pleasure, it can provide moments of true relaxation/focus/reflection, and it even can expand our social circle. Illuminating our opponents with these considerations can help ease the objections.
I read a scientific paper, a study on nonsmokers vs cigar smokers who smoke no more then 2 cigars a day. The study found no difference between the two groups when it comes to disease. This study I found had to be suppressed to do anti smoking agendas not pure science. Live in Florida. Anti tobacco tv commercials that are titled " Tobacco Free Florida "
People have generally been accepting in my experience. Any situation where I might have lit up a cigarillo a couple years ago, I can start up a pipe instead and any comments I get about it will be friendly and playful. Much the same as when I was mostly smoking cigars. I had a boss who was a pastor that always told my colleagues who smoked cigarettes that they should quit, but when asked why he never said much to me he replied that cigars are different. Picking up the pipe has been more of the same. In fact a lady friend who objected to my cigar smoking was more open to my pipe smoking.
The only negative interaction I had about it was from some random stranger who passed me in a roundabout and questioned why I was smoking a pipe while driving. Which is wierd because if you have a candle or pipe lighter handy smoking a pipe is safer to do while driving than smoking a cigarette. And people smoke cigarettes all the time.
Good video cuz my girl.....whoooooo. thank you.
only been pipe smoking for a year. I'm a regular cigar smoker though. Either way it's hard in California haha ..pipes seem to be a little more acceptable since aromatics smell better to most people. I like them because I can set it down and continue smoking later (ex. at work) and the fact pipes look cool and classy lol
I ask them if they believe dementia is worth waiting for? Id rather cancer at 65 than dementia at 68. Plus with cancer, the gov do not get your assets when you need care. Over here in the UK atleast.
Very well put
Thanks for the video!
Very fortunate that only my doctor tries to get me to stop pipe smoking. Have instructed her that it is not cigarette tobacco, and I don't inhale very often. Also fortunate that the nurse I'm dating now...her late husband was a pipe smoker. I refuse to smoke in her home or when we are in her vehicle. She will allow, and enjoys the aroma of pipe tobacco. Just me trying to be courteous to everyone. I do smoke when we are at my house or we are in my vehicle. Pipe smoking is a very relaxing to me and does help me from abusing other substances such as alcohol.
I inhale pipe smoke and most other pipe smokers I smoke with do as well. But we all use to smoke cigarettes...
Big fan of your content. You put this video out the same day I got my pipe and tobacco. The first night I smoked my pipe my wife blasted me about 1 Corinthians, I'm gonna get cancer, how disgusting it is, saying it's the exact same thing as smoking. She told me she's never gonna kiss me again if I keep smoking. I appreciate the fact that you are a pastor and I can use your examples of grace to try to get through this issue with my wife. I believe this video was a divine appointment to help me get through this gracefully. Any more advice on how to calm a quarrelsome wife would be appreciated. Keep up the good work. God bless brother.
My answer to your difficult question would be to get your wife smoking a pipe! Yes, there are lots of women who enjoy the total experience of pipe-smoking! I belong to a pipe club in which there are female members. Good luck!
Personally I don't smoke around people. So nobody knows. I don't tell folks at church I enjoy pipe tobacco. So it is a private relaxing time for me. I have been smoking about a year and a half. Most of my life I didn't use it and most of my life is over I will not live as long as I have lived. So I enjoy the taste and reflecting on my day or think about things I need to do tomorrow.
I enjoy your talks and I saw you on the pipe cottage.
Excellent video thank you
Great Video! You made some excellent points in this video! People are going to condemn, no matter what that is just the human nature! It does not make it right, it is just people being people! There was only one perfect man & look at what they did to him! It is hard when someone is judging you or condemning you, I face it a lot of times over smoking a pipe! THANKS FOR SHARING WILSON! We ( the pipe smoking community) APPRECIATE YOU!
Helpful video, thank you.
I just say do what makes you happy and id people dont like it, they can piss off 😅 being my age i have earned the right to feel that way.❤
Awesome video!
We’ll spoke pastor.
Thanks that was great 👍.
Hiyas Wilson, a great topic for thoughtful discussion. I definitely do not flaunt my pipe smoking. I don't hide it either, I am comfortable with my decision to be a committed piper. I too carefully watch what I eat and I exercise daily. Constant, uncontrollable high levels of stress and anxiety are far more dangerous to one's physical and mental well being in my humble opinion. ¡Moderation in all things! Malcolm Guite just posted a wonderful video on pipe smoking that I highly recommend.
A great chat my friend, thank you.
Serene piping,
Gary
Our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit......and temples should have some incense smoke rising to the heavens and offering our prayers to God ;)
Thank You !
Excellent
I saw a copy of a S. Renihan book in one of your thumbnails and just wanted to stop by and say I've been enjoying your videos the last few weeks as I've jumped back into smoking my pipe after a break. I'm a 1689 Federalist and especially enjoy seeing ways you sneak different books into the videos/thumbnails.
I'm guessing you've seen C.S. Lewis' quote on the joys of working through a bit of tough theology with a pipe in your teeth and a pencil in your hand. It's one of my favorites.
Thank you David. Yes that Lewis quote stuck with me the first time I read it.
No doubt the food we eat is the biggest factor. I'm actually not convinced single ingredient (organic) tobacco is bad for us at all.
Louis Berkof I see,....nice.
Thank you. I am still waiting for the “financial” perspective on pipe smoking. I have recently learned about the “ tobacco surcharge” under the ACA. Care to comment?
People don't shame me for riding snowmobiles or dirt bikes or any other high risk hobby... but these things are way more likely to kill me than a pipe... I don't think pipe smoking is 100% safe of course, but people's reaction to these things is completely emotionally compromised and has nothing to do with facts. They just have been brainwashed into thinking tobacco is all bad.
I think you would really enjoy the book Life, Liberty & Property by Charles Weisman. He goes into Christianity and liberty good.
Wilson, I look forward to your extended video on smoking and the Bible. Our Church bans me from leading a Bible class/group because I "smoke" a pipe; lol at my age I have no desire to do that anyway.
What's wrong with hamburgers (other than the bun)
Thank you for your practical wisdom about pipe smoking .. perhaps you could help me with something that, as a Christian, I've been asking myself, namely .. Is the immense enjoyment I get from smoking a great tobacco out of a great pipe - a gift from God? .. Is it a divine blessing upon me and upon my family, friends and world? .. and, if it is .. should I be bowing in prayer and giving thanks every time I am about to light my pipe? .. Do you give thanks before you light your pipes?
Many thanks for your continuing gentle guidance. - seraphim
Could you please review Cornell & Diehl Midnight drive. English blend.
Would love to hear your opinion 😉
Great discussion. Thank you! Sometimes its helpful to do the research. So, weight is an independent risk factor and smoking is a vaso-constrictor. Those are both facts. That said, eating fatty pulled pork is unhealthy. Too much dark chocolate has issues, and too much milk chocolate has other issues. Wine is tasty and so is beer, but there are downsides. So, you know, life is to be lived in balance.
I smoke one to two pipes a day. This is statistically far less harmful than the average pack of cigarettes. We don’t tend to inhale. We tend to be welcomed when people are around us - that’s either an interesting latakia-forward blend, or a cozy aromatic. Is smoking one or two pipefulls a day harmful? Sure. Maybe. So is anxiety. So is a lot of eating in America.
I went to a major theological seminary, graduated with a M.Div. and was a pastor for 24 years. I am confused about how the Bible enters into any discussion of tobacco use. Why do we get so out of balance? The judgment of other people is killing us. The people who say ‘should’ or ‘ought’ all the time, who speak ‘for’ God or the universe.
This is always an issue of boundaries. People with loose boundaries who somehow think they get to speak to someone else about stuff that is not in their lane.
I appreciate the video.
I look forward to your vid on Christian liberty, I’m a former Pres (pca) elder, I love that you say we need to handle their concerns with Grace, most people in our lives say something because they care, however misguided or ignorant. Even that they care enough to be willing to offend is beautiful thing. Thank you for your content. God bless.
Kinda funny to hear ya say that hamburgers are bad for you, that you don’t have to be a doctor to know that hamburgers aren’t good for your health.
I’m 43. I was a vegan/vegetarian for 12 years, and only started eating meat again around age 38. When vegetarian, I ate very healthy - salads, lots of veggies, etc. Not much of the processed garbage. Now, I eat high-quality grass-fed beef, and I’ve never felt better in my life. Any physical issue I had before has disappeared. My cholesterol (and other health factors) is just about as good as could be. My siblings and father (all vegetarian), on the other hand, have high cholesterol and blood pressure issues. I don’t buy the “beef is bad” argument for a second. 😊
Quick question SP, how do we approach pipe smoking when it comes to Romans 14-15 in catering to the weaker brother? Is that just when it comes to spiritual matters?
The pastor of my church smoked a pipe. No problem. I smoke a pipe too.
good stuff. looking forward to your video on 1 Corinthians 'temple' objection
How could the Bible be against (or even pro) pipe smoking, when tobacco wasn’t in use when those texts were written😅 (at least in the old world)
As you’ve mentioned Mark 7:18 is as clear as can be.
Well spoken Wilson, great to see a fellow brother in Christ pipe smoker
If it comes up with my Christian friends, my prepared answer is CS Lewis and JRR Tolkien. Hasn’t come up yet though.
I would rather see people taking up pipe smoking any day over the cancer sticks 👍🏻👍🏻
Everything God made is good. Tobacco is a natural God made thing. End of argument. Be yourself. You’ll never be able to please everyone….nor should you try.
I had to explain that I neither need nor require their approval. Of course after over 30 years of piping off and on, they knew it was a snake when they picked it up.
So, the Church I’ve been going to has literally performed an intervention on one of their members to stop him from smoking a pipe. They’ve done something very similar to me when I was engaged to someone they didn’t approve of. I want to be faithful to Jesus but, I think this Church will basically say, “It’s Jesus or the pipe.” That might be coming soon too.
Find a different church. Without knowing anything else about it, that is a sign of an unhealthy church
@@TheSpurgeonPiper I will. Good Church is hard to find. You know, that fit? Anyways, thank you. I needed to hear that.
Well done sir.
Concerning 1Cor. 6:19, I've had that one brought up often - usually for anything that someone else is doing that they don't like. 😁 As I was told by one of my teachers many years ago: The first 3 rules of Biblical interpretation are: Context, Context, and Context.
So when Paul brings up the subject of our body being a temple of the Holy Spirit, what is the context of that statement? It's the idea of a believer being in a sexual relationship with a non believer outside of marriage (In this case, a prostitute). And how that relationship is actually
attempting to bring the very Spirit of God into an unholy alliance if you will.
And what does he say before that?
"12 All things are lawful for me, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be mastered by anything. 13 Food is for the stomach and the stomach is for food, but God will do away with both of them. Yet the body is not for immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord is for the body."
That verse that they so often quote is very specific in it's application.
And it shouldn't be used like a bludgeon to enforce their own Pharisaic prejudices. But they do...
Anyway, God bless you and yours.
I would love for you to talk about Christian liberty. I'm reformed now, but coming up in a broader evangelical context, anything to do with tobacco was a sin. I think Christians in general are very confused about law and gospel, and Christian liberty. I know I sure was until I began to be reformed.
Man, I feel lucky I've never dealt with naysayers, really. Mostly just people that think it's weird or old fashioned.
My wife has been a little worried because I just started pipe smoking. But we came to a compromise that makes her feel better about it. I can only do it on the weekends. And she can cut me off if she thinks it's becoming a problem.
Life is a very short stretch.. some pass young without notice and yes, from cancers while never smoking.. some live over 90 while smoking.. tomorrow is not a guarantee. you do you.. as popeye always said, I Yam What I Yam...