One thing I do when I use a mag drill is drill holes closer to the edge first so that you continually pull the drill away from the shavings and cutting oil. It keeps the bottom of the mag drill clean has a better hold. Fantastic video
Appreciate 👏 the work u guys r doing, educating and sharing knowledge on structural steel fabrication process, excepting a much more things in fabrication. Thank you 😊 👍
Great video! What sized bolts would you use for joining a 178 x 102 steel beam together? It has a 7.8mm flange, 4.8mm web so I thought a 10mm plate would be appropriate. The beam will only be about 3.3m and be holding up roof trusses (wooden beams would have left less head room than preferred) and will be easily strong enough for the job. The splice would be very close to one end, it will make instillation a lot easier. Cheers.
You’d need to run that by a structural engineer Albert for the exact calculations. Splice plates are usually, minimum 1.5x the flange thickness. And at a guess 16mm bolts. But as I said, Always get your calcs and loads sorted by an engineer for exact detailing.
On the iron worker punch, I could see you touching off to get the center of the hole, but I couldn't tell how you were zeroing in with the magnetic drill. Were you touching down first before applying the magnet? Anyway, some pretty awesome stuff on big structural members. Pretty cool to see. With much appreciation.
Why dont you centre punch the marking.on your plates then use the punch locator to make it easier and more accurate for your holes if you know what i mean
Thanks for watching. I’m controlling the punch on a foot pedal. So can adjust accordingly. Nothing wrong with centre popping then punching. Which I also do. And as you say. The punch finds the pop. These plates were temporary, and for the shop fit only,
Thanks for watching. There would be pros and cons for both depending upon the individual and specific requirements of the Job. Location, accessibility,. Suitability of welding on site/in position compared to ease of bolting. All spliced joints would be designed and calculated by a structural engineer to suit the loads required irrespective of the joint method. Normally bolted for us.
Unsure to be honest. The splice joint is calculated by a structural engineer (not us) for the loads to which it is required. So plate thickness/ size and number bolts / type of bolts. It would be made to be sufficient / in excess for that which the original beam was deemed / calculated suitable for
I don’t know for your iron worker but normally you can set the stops for it so the tip stays below the guard. This way you can hold you punch against the center point and don’t have to do the touch offs
Hey Santino thanks for your comments. Yes you can edge it down. If the Holes are centre popped then the punch will find centre to an extent as there is a dimple in the centre of the punch. Or raise your material to the dimple and punch, bringing it down once aligned.
Thanks for watching. The Splices are designed/calculated by a structural engineer. Usually flat plate for both web and flange connections Which would keep to the existing beam profile - as close as possible. I’m sure Channel or PFC would work also.
The machine that punches holes in metal that thick, if you could theoretically use it as a demonstration to prove the existence of God 🙏 for those struggling with the issue, everyone would be like oooohh, now I see.😅... Looking to extend the beam holding up my first floor which is also carrying the load in one point for my second floor and the floor to my attic. The guys that installed the beam put the post too close to the basement toilet. Could make it work, but, I'm leaning towards this idea. I will build the wall for the bathroom and that can take some load, and if I disguise some extra 2x4's to make thick shelves alongside the wall just in case. I'm surprised a splice as small as this would work, I had in mind 2 piece's of metal an inch thick on the sides and like a couple of feet long. I just need 4 1/2 more 🐾.
Amen to the Geka metalworker. Get your loadings calculated by a structural engineer Jason. He’ll then tell you what you need for your specific situation. Depending on the span/load
At 3.52 you laid out your flange holes using the centre line of the flange when you should be using the cntr line of your web and working out from that because your web is never cntr off your flanges
One thing I do when I use a mag drill is drill holes closer to the edge first so that you continually pull the drill away from the shavings and cutting oil. It keeps the bottom of the mag drill clean has a better hold. Fantastic video
Valid point Cameron. Thanks for watching
Dude thank you for doing these videos more steel fabrication than welding. Def looking forward to more
Thanks very much for watching Julio 👍
Appreciate 👏 the work u guys r doing, educating and sharing knowledge on structural steel fabrication process, excepting a much more things in fabrication. Thank you 😊 👍
Thank you for watching 👍
I was doing this last week, didn’t do a video like this homie did. Good job there.
thank you so much T M F G.......REALLY ENJOY ...shese short and to the point videos are fantastic, cheers from Florida USA
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i wish the shop i worked at was this quiet haha
Yes small workshop and the radio is off during the videos because of copyright
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Great video! What sized bolts would you use for joining a 178 x 102 steel beam together? It has a 7.8mm flange, 4.8mm web so I thought a 10mm plate would be appropriate. The beam will only be about 3.3m and be holding up roof trusses (wooden beams would have left less head room than preferred) and will be easily strong enough for the job. The splice would be very close to one end, it will make instillation a lot easier. Cheers.
You’d need to run that by a structural engineer Albert for the exact calculations. Splice plates are usually, minimum 1.5x the flange thickness.
And at a guess 16mm bolts. But as I said, Always get your calcs and loads sorted by an engineer for exact detailing.
@@TheMetalFabGuy OK thanks! I'll do that😉
On the iron worker punch, I could see you touching off to get the center of the hole, but I couldn't tell how you were zeroing in with the magnetic drill. Were you touching down first before applying the magnet? Anyway, some pretty awesome stuff on big structural members. Pretty cool to see. With much appreciation.
Usually, anular cutters have a center pin that floats inside the cutter and protrudes to a point. Can't tell if this one has it, but that's my guess.
Exactly that with the mag drill.
Josh is also spot on.
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does that punch have a cenring point on it?
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Centre punch holes lot more accurate than guessing !!!!
Why dont you centre punch the marking.on your plates then use the punch locator to make it easier and more accurate for your holes if you know what i mean
Thanks for watching. I’m controlling the punch on a foot pedal. So can adjust accordingly.
Nothing wrong with centre popping then punching. Which I also do. And as you say. The punch finds the pop. These plates were temporary, and for the shop fit only,
Great video, new subscriber.
Thank you for watching, and thank you for the sub. 👍
May we know the reason behind why heads of bolts for the flanges splices are placed inside the web?
No specific reason in this instance
what's more durable, welded or bolted?
Thanks for watching.
There would be pros and cons for both depending upon the individual and specific requirements of the Job.
Location, accessibility,. Suitability of welding on site/in position compared to ease of bolting.
All spliced joints would be designed and calculated by a structural engineer to suit the loads required irrespective of the joint method.
Normally bolted for us.
Are you using metric over imperial?
Yes. 99.9 % of the time Metric.
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About how much would that joint be sufficient for? Are you compromising the I beam or making it stronger.
Unsure to be honest. The splice joint is calculated by a structural engineer (not us) for the loads to which it is required.
So plate thickness/ size and number bolts / type of bolts.
It would be made to be sufficient / in excess for that which the original beam was deemed / calculated suitable for
Metric - phoeee, them damn yanks 🤣🤣
What drill machine did you use to drill the beam?
JEI Mini beast
I don’t know for your iron worker but normally you can set the stops for it so the tip stays below the guard. This way you can hold you punch against the center point and don’t have to do the touch offs
Hey Santino thanks for your comments.
Yes you can edge it down.
If the Holes are centre popped then the punch will find centre to an extent as there is a dimple in the centre of the punch. Or raise your material to the dimple and punch, bringing it down once aligned.
Nice work man, thanks for sharing
Thank you. And Thank you for watching 👍
Sir please tell me size of beam,drill calculation
Hi. It’s a 203x203uc46. M22 holes M20 bolts.
Good ❤
I would like to ask you about bolt diameter ,Sir.
20mm on this (M20)
@@TheMetalFabGuy thank you so much sir.
Thank you for watching
Good for learning 😁👍
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Hello .. How much does the drilling machine cost in dollars .. Thank you very much .. Can the WhatsApp store buy one like it?
Hi, thanks for watching. Approximately 500 USD 👍
@@TheMetalFabGuy link?
www.jeiuk.com/products/minibeast
that tape would have been in the bin 6 months ago, buy a new one and while you are at it buy an adjustable/combo square
lovely, i design these splices
I occasionally do this kind of installation node
Why not fish plate with some c Chanel
Thanks for watching. The Splices are designed/calculated by a structural engineer. Usually flat plate for both web and flange connections Which would keep to the existing beam profile - as close as possible.
I’m sure Channel or PFC would work also.
Name of Drill Machine
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Size 6beam
The machine that punches holes in metal that thick, if you could theoretically use it as a demonstration to prove the existence of God 🙏 for those struggling with the issue, everyone would be like oooohh, now I see.😅... Looking to extend the beam holding up my first floor which is also carrying the load in one point for my second floor and the floor to my attic. The guys that installed the beam put the post too close to the basement toilet. Could make it work, but, I'm leaning towards this idea. I will build the wall for the bathroom and that can take some load, and if I disguise some extra 2x4's to make thick shelves alongside the wall just in case. I'm surprised a splice as small as this would work, I had in mind 2 piece's of metal an inch thick on the sides and like a couple of feet long. I just need 4 1/2 more 🐾.
Amen to the Geka metalworker.
Get your loadings calculated by a structural engineer Jason. He’ll then tell you what you need for your specific situation.
Depending on the span/load
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At 3.52 you laid out your flange holes using the centre line of the flange when you should be using the cntr line of your web and working out from that because your web is never cntr off your flanges
Hole size Tel me bro
18mm
hea 200 profile
Those bolts should have washers on both ends just sayin newbie
Grade 8.8 structural bolt assemblies only come with one bolt, one washer and one nut..
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