20 Awesome Cars You Won't Believe are ULEZ Compliant !

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  • Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
  • With the London Ultra Low Emissions Zone (ULEZ) set to expand to cover all London Boroughs in August 2023 here is a list of 20 awesome, fun and in some cases unbelievable cars that comply to the ULEZ emissions standard and will be able to be driven in the ULEZ zone without incurring a £12.50 per day fine.
    Huge thanks to my mate Paul Lewis (Instagram @bispal) for taking the time to research and compile the list. Which car would you have ?
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    Video Contents
    00:00 - Introduction
    03:36 - No. 20
    04:02 - No.19
    04:29 - No.18
    04:53 - No. 17
    05:21 - No. 16
    05:50 - No. 15
    06:31 - No.14
    06:54 - No. 13
    07:31 - No. 12
    08:04 - No. 11
    08:42 - No. 10
    09:21 - No. 9
    09:58 - No. 8
    10:34 - No. 7
    11:14 - No. 6
    11:59 - No. 5
    13:08 - No. 4
    13:47 - No. 3
    14:44 - No. 2
    15:41 - No. 1
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  • @PetrolPed
    @PetrolPed  Год назад +19

    Which car would you have from my Top 20 ULEZ compliant cars ?

    • @briangriffiths114
      @briangriffiths114 Год назад +2

      The Mini or the Renault because I prefer small cars. The next step is zero emission zones that will probably be introduced more quickly around the UK than presently anticipated and is the reason why I drive an EV.

    • @NunoxFerreira
      @NunoxFerreira Год назад +2

      If i had the money ( in the Uk 😅) i would pick a Continental GT...😍

    • @coltoncleveringa8004
      @coltoncleveringa8004 Год назад +1

      E46 m3 or the TVR

    • @wordreet
      @wordreet Год назад +1

      Lotus Elise S1 !!!!!!!!!
      Holy crepe, who would have thought that little beast would be ULEZ compliant!!??

    • @bertiewooster3326
      @bertiewooster3326 Год назад +9

      1961 Ford Anglia greenest car around like all classics !

  • @BillyBob-rm3ve
    @BillyBob-rm3ve Год назад +80

    The answer is not to find a way around the stupid, money grabbing ULEZ charge, the answer is to oppose it and not let it happen! 😡

    • @taipizzalord4463
      @taipizzalord4463 Год назад +1

      As someone who lives in London I would approve if it had the effect of actually reducing traffic congestion and increasing trains into london so it is safe for kids to cycle to school etc. But it does not even do that. Trains are too expensive and do not go everywhere so it is not an alternative. It is purely as money raising exercise. And since London is a net taxpayer to the rest of the country as it is far richer, and because the Tory government deliberately underfunds local authorities there is a perception of all right lets get back the cash the Tories are taking from us slowing down new tube for London etc. And they want people from the home counties to pick up the tab as retribution. But those people are not that affluent, especially with inflation. It's really sad state of affairs.

    • @BAC_Mono
      @BAC_Mono 8 месяцев назад

      It’s a pollution measure not a congestion charge

  • @SuperEjep
    @SuperEjep Год назад +78

    I have a 2002 Range Rover L322 V8 petrol running LPG which is arguably better than Euro 4. Last year I checked on line and was told it was ULEZ exempt. I drove into London and was subsequently fined. The fine came when I was overseas and by the time I was aware of it, it had escalated to £240. Its a con and money grab!

    • @nhilfamine1876
      @nhilfamine1876 Год назад

      I wonder how my 1977 F150 XLT Ranger with a 351 would be dinged for

    • @SuperEjep
      @SuperEjep Год назад +3

      @Nhil famine As it is over 40 years old and, if it is registered as historic, it is ULEZ exempt. I have a 77 Rolls Royce Shadow and that is exempt but my Range Rover, it seems, isn't

    • @Harassed247
      @Harassed247 Год назад +1

      I'm confused, I thought this wasn't starting until August of this year so how did you get a fine, or am I missing something..

    • @SuperEjep
      @SuperEjep Год назад +2

      @@Harassed247 ULEZ has been operational for a number of years. The proposal is to increase the catchment area this year

    • @tomriley5790
      @tomriley5790 Год назад

      Send them a copy of the recommendation that it was compliant - Also though you can register to pay automatically - at least it doesn't then add up...

  • @itspart
    @itspart Год назад +49

    The BIG cash cow of ULES. Fight the change 💪 this is all about control

    • @robertolombardi3698
      @robertolombardi3698 Год назад

      You just wait until cities start banning cars from their centres . And other restrictions on where cars can go.

  • @edwowen
    @edwowen Год назад +102

    Great list!
    It really shows what a load of nonsense this ULEZ system is!

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  Год назад +7

      Yep 👍

    • @nigel.w
      @nigel.w Год назад +7

      The argument is that they're relatively green compared to non-compliant cars, and they actually are. The data is particularly clear for diesels. And the data for the current ULEZ zone within the north/south circular roads is also pretty clear, while the data in favour of the expanded zone is pretty much non-existent. What is also pretty clear is that this is actually a greener list than buying an EV, because a) EVs currently pre-load up to 90k miles of equivalent emissions into the atmosphere before they drive out of the showroom, and b) the cars on this particular list are unlikely to be driven the average number of miles a year.

    • @rtfazeberdee3519
      @rtfazeberdee3519 Год назад

      That depends if you live in the area, I live for the day when i can walk down a London street and smell the flowers in the gardens and not the smelly ICE vehicles (like it was in the first lockdown when no-one was driving). Hopefully it'll accelerate EV adoption in the mass market and commercial market then the one off dirty ICE should be allowed to exist for the real petrolheads

    • @Rugbyman269
      @Rugbyman269 Год назад +3

      It’s all about money and the poorest people will pay the most . Get rid if khan

    • @user-qq2mo1ek2r
      @user-qq2mo1ek2r Год назад

      @@rtfazeberdee3519 What a crock of shit .... what flowers in central London gardens? even the electric black cabs aren't green as most drivers live outside London, they run the taxi into London on their battery then drive around London using their petrol engines. I've been in enough of them to talk to the drivers.

  • @robertolombardi3698
    @robertolombardi3698 Год назад +91

    You just know TFL will keep moving the goal posts and these cars mentioned will eventually finally succumb to ULEZ 😢

    • @regbarnard2866
      @regbarnard2866 Год назад +2

      Sorry you missed the point in this video..
      This is just the thin edge of the wedge, next year Euro5m, Euro6 then Euro8 and on. All the cars you mentioned will be axed very soon.
      WE NEED TO FIGHT This NOW or the eco Fascists will drive all non EV cars off the road.

    • @robindumpleton3742
      @robindumpleton3742 Год назад +4

      But will Khanage ban the Royal Rolls. Will he be driven in an EV, at the side of a London bus full of enough Hydrogen to take out four full blocks in the event of a terrorist attack. Only pointing out, that on a day to day basis, diesel cars are much safer. How would you even armour an EV? They have already lost electric buses

    • @DigiDriftZone
      @DigiDriftZone Год назад +13

      Yes, my 70MPG super green blue efficiency mercedes C class, which I bought because it's super efficient and green is no longer ULEZ compliant, I guess I'll get a 15mpg range rover to save the planet? - that one seems fine still. Logic train has left the station.

    • @MrMaxLions
      @MrMaxLions Год назад

      My thoughts exactly. Soon the ban will cover most cars then all cars with internal combustion engines. First it was Red Ken Congestion charger, then it was lying theiving Boris now it's Ulez Khan. All different cheeks of the same ass

    • @chevchelios8582
      @chevchelios8582 Год назад +12

      If the goal is to stop pollution or save the environment it’s illogical. If the goal is to decimate car ownership and freedom of movement it’s a brilliant scheme.

  • @jamest5149
    @jamest5149 Год назад +40

    The problem is ULEZ will change in future years to become more stringent.

    • @douglasb.5601
      @douglasb.5601 Год назад +4

      100%.
      The G40 cities (of which London is one of the leading cities) ambitious target for 2030 is Zero cars per 1000 people. 😠

    • @patrick2536
      @patrick2536 Год назад +1

      The fascist, tax raid creep always starts slowly and before you know it, gallops away. Do not comply, object to it now or it will be too late. Anyone fancy driving Tuc Tucs around in our climate?

    • @HowardKlein1958
      @HowardKlein1958 11 месяцев назад

      Not if we refuse to comply

  • @steveburland624
    @steveburland624 Год назад +61

    As someone who currently living in the current ulez zone it isn't to bad but I would be more fearful of what Oxford's 15 minute city could mean for drivers in other cities.🤔

    • @chevchelios8582
      @chevchelios8582 Год назад +8

      ULEZ cameras & LTN’s are for 15 minute cities. They are just working there one screw turn at a time because London is such a large important city. Next stages will be tightening of the standards, then road charging.

    • @andyxox4168
      @andyxox4168 Год назад +5

      Sure, not bad for you as your car is compliant!

    • @patthewoodboy
      @patthewoodboy Год назад +8

      someone who has bent over to the control and now has a sore a hole

    • @douglasb.5601
      @douglasb.5601 Год назад +6

      Thin end of the wedge sadly...look into G40 cities...Sadiq is the leader of the movement! 😢

    • @oomz1975
      @oomz1975 Год назад +6

      Dont worry, they will decide your house isn't compliant soon.

  • @AnthonyTeasdale
    @AnthonyTeasdale Год назад +11

    My Land Rover Ninety is nearly 40 years old. Looking forward to driving a old diesel around a ULEZ at no cost.

  • @SF-xj5nr
    @SF-xj5nr Год назад +44

    The cars listed might be compliant at this moment in time🤔 but once the money starts rolling in what’s stopping Euro 4 changing to Euro 5 as a minimum. Once the extended zone comes into force, what’s stopping other councils who are being hard pressed for government funds introducing zones of there own?

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  Год назад +3

      Indeed 😢

    • @markgarnett3521
      @markgarnett3521 Год назад

      I can just remind you these rules are intended to nudge us away from polluting towards zero emission. I’m all for keeping classic cars but not as daily drivers; most the pollution is odourless and colourless yet the smell in most of London is horrendous. Better in recent years but a long way to go.

    • @SF-xj5nr
      @SF-xj5nr Год назад +8

      @@markgarnett3521 , Hi Mark I can understand the reasoning behind the requirement to reduce the Pollution levels but the Motorists isn’t the only culprit in the production of the Toxic fume / particular issue. To my knowledge there hasn’t been any mention of limiting the use of Household Gas Boilers within the ULEZ zone or the imposition of an extra daily charge to heat your home within the Zone. ( Did you know that the manufacture of Gas Boilers was being fazed out? )
      The manufacture of an EV creates far more pollution than an equivalent ICE vehicle and at the moment the production of the ever increasing amount of Electricity to power these EVs requires the use of fossil fuels.
      It’s a real shame that more emphasis hasn’t been placed on the mass production of synthetic fuels allowing the continued use of all these perfectly serviceable vehicles for many years to come.

    • @garyrobinson6247
      @garyrobinson6247 Год назад +4

      @@markgarnett3521 We all need to consider the cradle to grave footprint of all vehicles. Is it really greener to buy a new EV than to continue to run an existing ULEZ compliant vehicle doing 5 or 6K miles per yer for the next 10 years? To get an EV that would pull my caravan would cost me £50k plus and with the price of public charging cost me more to get from A to B than using my Euro 6 compliant diesel, it would also take significantly longer and have you ever considered charging an EV with a caravan attached? I'm sure the 'towing' use case isn't the only one that isn't practical.
      The human cost of getting the lithium and cobalt out of the ground and the carbon footprint for the sourcing of components and manufacture of that EV is far greater than continuing to use my existing Euro 6 diesel. Add to that the limited longevity of EVs compared to ICE vehicles and we are looking at at least two EV batteries to keep that EV going for the same number of miles as an ICE vehicle. We should be exploring synthetic fuels so that the existing distribution infrastructure can be used and the same vehicles can be used rather than encouraging the manufacture of new vehicles at massive cost to the environment. This push towards EVs is just another way of taking money from the poor to give to the already rich.

    • @sambrooks7862
      @sambrooks7862 Год назад

      That's almost certainly the intention, remember when the government gave us cash incentives to ditch our petrol cars and buy diesels?

  • @slaphead55
    @slaphead55 Год назад +26

    My brother lives just outside the boundary in Kent but comes into London a lot and was delighted and surprised to find out that his 20 year old fuel guzzling, rotary engine Mazda RX8 is ULEZ compliant. Happy days.

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  Год назад +1

      Very cool 👌

    • @jasper7126
      @jasper7126 Год назад

      @@dennisaca1358 GB isn’t part of the EU anymore so it would be strange to implement their emission standards.

    • @luckyrobp
      @luckyrobp Год назад

      @@jasper7126 I wouldn’t put money on it though!!!

    • @mattlawton4715
      @mattlawton4715 Год назад

      I know ye it's all retarded they are actually letting dirty engines in and some cleaner ones can't 🤣 hay I'm not complaining you can buy a chappy old dirty car and be compliant happy days 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍

    • @brynleytalbot778
      @brynleytalbot778 11 месяцев назад

      It’s all about diesel particulate emissions controls rather than choking on petrol fuel fumes. But the insanity of that is dieselgate which has rendered the ULEZ criteria obsolete. I appealed a fine on such grounds but was overturned. Retrospective engine management upgrades can make non compliant cars compliant but the dinosaur system is based on emissions at the point of the cars production. The idiocy needs to end.

  • @garyminion9610
    @garyminion9610 Год назад +17

    Okay i dont live anywhere near London and never will, however as you pointed out these restrictions are coming to a city near you, sooner or later, i was of the understanding that this ulez exstention was being challenged by many of the councils its going to affect and that recently karn had been up in front of a committee and is under suspicion of destroying over 5000 objections to his ulez exstention, so hopefully it may not come into force. Whilst an interesting list it probably doesn't help those who are on a budget but that said maybe us petrol heads should get together in our compliant gas guzzling cars and have a trip around this proposed zone on mass. I dont like the big brother attitude that seems to be attacking every corner of peoples lives these days, you cant drive, you cant order fatty or sweet foods, stop drinking, dont smoke and on it goes. 👍

    • @bispal
      @bispal Год назад +2

      Too late, a done deal, no way Sadiq will back track now or hes out.

    • @altspitfire
      @altspitfire Год назад

      @@bispal He's up for the chopping block anyway

    • @sambrooks7862
      @sambrooks7862 Год назад +1

      Of course if everyone removed their numberplate before driving into the zone they would need to recruit a hell of a lot more coppers to find them? Just saying!

  • @bispal
    @bispal Год назад +16

    Fantastic, thanks for sharing with a bigger audience with all your usual enthusiasm 🙂 When I started doing this it was to replace my NA MX5 I have owned for 8 years as it is my daily driver. I didn't want to give Sadiq £87.50 a week for me to use my pride and joy. What I wanted was a modern classic that pre-dated the September 2005 Euro 4 cut off (on 1st Jan 2006 depending which regulation you read) , and, please correct me if I am wrong, but all the 20 cars do pre-date 2006. I almost bought a 1977 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow and briefly considered an MGB GT V8, but the daily driver aspect meant i wanted something newer. I have settled on another 986 but I have plans for perhaps another car too, maybe a V8 (or a Sagaris - the only complaint TVR ). Thanks again, was great to watch my list come to life 🙂

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  Год назад +1

      If you get a Sagaris I would love to review it 👍

  • @timcoop6227
    @timcoop6227 Год назад +8

    My biggest surprise is not the Bentley Continental, but the Boeing 747 from the 1970’s is compliant……. JUST WOW!!!

  • @leehollyer1017
    @leehollyer1017 Год назад +95

    Please don’t trivialise the ULEZ extension, it’s an appalling restriction of freedom about to forced onto hundreds of thousands of people. There’s a big push to try and get it overturned, your platform would be better used help the cause. That list just reinforces the fact it’s a tax on the average person while favouring the elitist few

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  Год назад +7

      I’m not trivialising it at all. I mentioned about the level of resistance to it 🤷‍♂️

    • @leehollyer1017
      @leehollyer1017 Год назад +8

      Sorry I disagree, this is the sort of attention the ULEZ extension should be getting ruclips.net/video/araJvpI5qGw/видео.html Suggesting someone buys a Bentley, Ferrari or Porsche to avoid the charge seems quite, …crass in comparison

    • @bertiewooster3326
      @bertiewooster3326 Год назад +4

      You need to take to the streets and sort it !

    • @gavinlewis3049
      @gavinlewis3049 Год назад +11

      @leehollyer1017 get a life, he's a youtuber, he's here for information and entertainment, if you don't like the vid then don't watch it's as simple as that.

    • @sophiawoods6748
      @sophiawoods6748 Год назад

      Tyrannical governments for the last 3 years with the Unelected world economic forum causing all these issues in the name of climate scam no doubt. Good channel anyone

  • @DW-dd4iw
    @DW-dd4iw Год назад +11

    The goal is net zero by 2030, so the restrictions will get harder and harder each year.
    I assume their end game is no cars or just electric cars (if you can afford one and if have a place to charge it).

  • @matthewstanton9633
    @matthewstanton9633 Год назад +1

    Just typed in my 2011 5.3 litre V12 Aston Martin Virage and it IS!! ULEZ COMPLIANT.... Mental!!!

  • @garysmith1477
    @garysmith1477 Год назад +2

    ULEZ compliant today but tomorrow, they’ll change the rules again to include more cars. The charge will increase quickly too. Slippery slope downwards from here.

  • @jamiep61
    @jamiep61 Год назад +3

    I was socked to hear you say that all Bentley Continental GT’s came In at 17th place. Thank you for taking the time to Film the Video 😊

  • @antj29
    @antj29 Год назад +5

    Not seen any protests on this , scary thing is it’s being stealthily rolled out to the the rest of the country, I have. Even warning my mates who think they can keep all their old classics forever (I mean things like 90’s cars), told them we’ll be taxed off the road

    • @chevchelios8582
      @chevchelios8582 Год назад +4

      The cameras are for road user charging (pay per mile). All cars will be charged. They want us out of our cars.

    • @vikingsmb
      @vikingsmb Год назад +1

      @@chevchelios8582 same in wales, the only vehicles dickford wants on the road are the mobility cars who are his core voters (labour)

  • @watchcommander2012
    @watchcommander2012 Год назад +6

    If you think the London ULEZ is bad how about a proposal by Bath City Council to charge all Vehicles entering the City regardless of any emissions compliance. I fear the anti car/vehicle brigade are on the march.

  • @TonyEdwards-km6qj
    @TonyEdwards-km6qj Год назад +3

    Also ran into the ULEZ problem.....live outside the area but work for the NHS in West London. I am now the proud owner of a very clean 2005 350SLK Merc 🙂

  • @robinoconnor1203
    @robinoconnor1203 Год назад +1

    Some surprises there, I am happy my cars are ULEZ compliant. Not everyone's favourite car, despite being a great car, you know because you tested one. My 2016 Porsche Cayenne 4.2 V8 Twin Turbo Diesel, is ULEZ compliant.

  • @garethedwards2883
    @garethedwards2883 Год назад +5

    I know quite a few people who work at Heathrow airport which in August will be inside the ULEZ zone causing them to sell their vehicles due to the staff car parks also being inside the zone.

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  Год назад +2

      No way 😳🥲

    • @lent7614
      @lent7614 Год назад +1

      Are aircraft and helicopters ULEZ compliant, asking for a friend. 😁😁😁

    • @garethedwards2883
      @garethedwards2883 Год назад

      @@lent7614 I think you know the answer to that one which I totally agree does not make sense to me why it is inside the ULEZ 🤔🤔

  • @Hambleite
    @Hambleite Год назад +6

    Thanks for the run-down and list. I've always been amazed that my Mercedes SLK 320 from 2003 is ULEZ compliant. I reckon on about 17 mpg in Town...!

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  Год назад +1

      😂😂😂

    • @DigiDriftZone
      @DigiDriftZone Год назад

      Mercedes C Class Blue Efficiency 70mpg 2013 is not ULEZ :( - and the price on it dropped by 4 grand because of this nonsense compared to a crappier, less efficient petrol version. You can't make this shit up. I guess I'll get an older E class that has more power/torque but someone is better for the planet?

  • @matthewjenkins1161
    @matthewjenkins1161 Год назад +3

    I live in the zone with a compliant X350 gen Jaguar XJ6.
    Only the diesels are non-compliant, so the 400bhp supercharged XJR would be my dream upgrade.

  • @jeffabbott463
    @jeffabbott463 Год назад +4

    Great work Paul! Bet the rule setters didn’t think they would see those cars in London later in the year!!!

  • @user-qq2mo1ek2r
    @user-qq2mo1ek2r Год назад +1

    Just checked on the TFL app and can confirm my 2009 4.3 V8 Vantage is LEZ and ULEZ compliant !!! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @johnbrown3951
    @johnbrown3951 Год назад +3

    I was a bit surprised the other day when big signs appeared on the M8 through Glasgow about a new ULEZ Zone in the city. It doesn't really affect me that much as I live 5 mins from the railway station & I would normally take the train into the city but it is a rare occasion that I do. What does affect me is if I travel to see my son in Edinburgh but then I will have to take the i-Pace or so I will tell Mrs B as she will be none the wiser. With regards the MG on your list my little sister was driven to her wedding by her bridesmaid in an MGF with the top down even in Scotland. I was a little jealous as I was a fan having owned an MG ZR and a ZS 180 V6 so not that jealous really. That was a very interesting list.

    • @ln5747
      @ln5747 Год назад

      What a joke.

  • @nicholasdavis657
    @nicholasdavis657 Год назад +20

    Great video. It's surprising some of the cars that are compliant if you look hard enough! I'm in the new zone and I'm pleased that my 2007 Jaguar XK 4.2 V8 is compliant. I'm sure it's not the sort of car the Mayor wants us to be driving but I'll stick with it while I can.

    • @helenbaker2614
      @helenbaker2614 Год назад +8

      Bearing in mind that Khan is driven in a Range Rover with a heavy weight security which weighs a lot heavier than a normal car. So his vehicle is produces a hell of a lot more crap than a normal vehicle

    • @PJD4875
      @PJD4875 Год назад

      @@helenbaker2614 exactly, and fuck anyone telling you where yiu can't drive your own car that you've worked for

    • @0000stuart
      @0000stuart Год назад

      I just checked my jaguar xjr x350 & it seems to be compliant.
      I've got a old BMW e34 540 which isn't & a euro 5 light truck which isn't either

    • @sambrooks7862
      @sambrooks7862 Год назад

      @@0000stuart you would think that all commercial vehicles would be exempt? If I have to drive into one of these zones to work at your house who is paying the charge? Me? No chance, your bill has just gone up. More likely that trades will just decide that it's too much hassle and give cities a wide bearth. Given how much time you spend sitting in traffic not earning I reckon that's the best option anyway.

    • @0000stuart
      @0000stuart Год назад +1

      @@sambrooks7862 yes it's the customer that has to pay the extra charges via a bigger bill .

  • @pd1596
    @pd1596 9 месяцев назад +2

    You know... When you read this list out loud it shows how ridiculous the whole ULEZ expansion is. I don't even live in London and, ffs, I'm having to look at getting a new car, with a loan. So no mortgage for me 😂 btw, what's the noise cameras all about? This is news to me 😂

  • @nekite1
    @nekite1 Год назад +2

    My favourite ULEZ compliant car is a bit of a sleeper - a 1st generation Saab 9-5 Aero with a stage 1 remap.

  • @danielheathcote5625
    @danielheathcote5625 Год назад +6

    The world has gone absolutely mad. My sister lives in the current zone. My parents can take their 3 year old mini countryman but can’t take their 2013 mark 7 golf diesel. I’m stunned yu can take Bentley continental, Range Rover, Ferrari, Porsche etc in. I’m actually holding my head in my hands at the thought of an sl55 amg! Anne no idea how the t r is anywhere near compliant!What is ultra low emission about these cars?

  • @henryhol8538
    @henryhol8538 Год назад +6

    I did a search when the original ULEZ zone was introduced and was relieved to find out my Alfa GT was compliant. I do feel for those with earlier Modern Classics and still hope it doesnt go ahead for Greater London.

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  Год назад +2

      There is a lot of opposition 😢

  • @dangreasley7934
    @dangreasley7934 Год назад +1

    Well that made a change. How surprising... Cool video Pedro, cheers

  • @worigami
    @worigami Год назад +2

    It is surprising what is and isn't ULEZ compliant and seems to make a mockery of its purpose. I own a 2008 Mercedes CLK 320, an aging 3.2 diesel which on the TFL ULEZ checker: "This vehicle meets the ULEZ emissions standards". We've taken it into central London, well into the ULEZ zone, several times despite doubts on whether the web site was mistaken. Never had a ticket.

    • @bispal
      @bispal Год назад +1

      They must have an anomaly as the 320CDi is definitely not ulez. I checked a 2007 and it wasn't but a 2008 is. That's the first non Euro 6 diesel i have heard that passes. Mind you I have not looked into diesels. More research required. Thanks

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 Год назад +1

    Great video mate

  • @richardkeane3051
    @richardkeane3051 Год назад +1

    Love a 996 GT3 as would a lot of us but I can vouch for the Golf GTi. Had one as a loan car back in the day with a DSG. Smooth drive. Great blog and food for thought…👍

  • @dingopisscreek
    @dingopisscreek Год назад +1

    I drive a 13 year old Yaris and it is ulez compliant. But there is more chance of me driving to the moon than there is of me driving TO London, let alone INTO London!!!

  • @d.c.Jones70
    @d.c.Jones70 Год назад +2

    Even if your car is deemed not fit for the ULEZ zone it is possible to get a certificate of compatibility with the ULEZ from the manufacturer.
    Contact there head office have the test if it’s deemed compatible you send the certificate details to TFL and your good to go.
    Obviously won’t work for everyone but could keep some cars within the zone.

  • @lostgps3005
    @lostgps3005 Год назад +4

    Just picked up an R53, when i checked if it was compliant i was shocked and happy

  • @markschraider
    @markschraider Год назад +6

    Some of those might be more expensive to run than just paying the daily charge (Conti, P38, F360) 😂 Just shows how ridiculous the whole ULEZ thing is !

  • @blacktiger955i
    @blacktiger955i Год назад +2

    With all the bus lanes and cycle lanes going in, pavements getting wider, narrowing the roads and increasing congestion, this list should be about which cars are best to sit in for hours on end going nowhere. It won't be long before the congestion charge is also expanded outwards.

  • @MrStevecrasher
    @MrStevecrasher Год назад +1

    I would need to double check to be sure but we serviced an Audi A4 2 litre petrol a few weeks ago which was shown to be EU4 and was a 2000 model. Also the Golf 4 1.8T GTI with the AUM engine and Octavia 1U VRS with the AUQ, both from 2002 onwards, are EU4

  • @tidysampler585
    @tidysampler585 Год назад +1

    Great video explaining the simplicity of this current situation.
    Oddly my 20 plate KIA Sportage 1.6T (180bhp) AWD petrol model is compliant..

  • @vedelcarby773
    @vedelcarby773 Год назад +1

    Great info in this video ped

  • @statustrade4901
    @statustrade4901 Год назад +2

    People need to write to their local mp, there is huge resistance to this from local councils and it’s not a done deal yet so don’t panic and sell your car, contact the GLA and your local mp to voice your objection, the interesting thing is TFL don’t own all the roads so local councils are saying they will not give TFL permission to put the cameras up on the roads causing TFL to seek a court order to install the cameras on the roads, also google the information that the mayor of London manuipulated the constitution figures
    Please don’t rollover all and accept this nail in the coffin for your motoring freedoms, worth a bit of effort to fight back against this TFL motoring tax

    • @neiljay
      @neiljay Год назад +1

      London borough of Harrow are refusing to implement any ULEZ cameras within their borders :). Now, if other outer London boroughs were to do the same....

    • @bispal
      @bispal Год назад

      11 boroughs are considering legal action but they will fail and ultimately, as Sutton have discovered, while they can say they will block it they have no actual power over the GLA to stop them on TFL red routes. There is no way Sadiq will back track now or his tenure as mayor will be over. Sadiq will just extend the scrappage scheme as compensation and the Boroughs will roll over or get their funding cut. You have to ask why the boroughs are protesting after it was ratified at city hall rather than before? its mostly political fighting between non labour boroughs and a labour mayor.

  • @RB-lt8kt
    @RB-lt8kt Год назад +1

    miss my 1980' Celica lift back, it was so different to all the XR3 (i) about.

  • @grahamknibbs5481
    @grahamknibbs5481 Год назад +5

    I’m truly surprised by some of the models that are compliant! BUT The Bentley Continental GT most certainly is the biggest surprise of all.

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  Год назад

      I know right 🤷‍♂️😂

    • @Supraboyes
      @Supraboyes Год назад

      hang on there sir, so my 1.6 hdi 2012 pug 5008 isnt. but a bentley GT is. the worlds gone mad.

  • @eltonkingsley5617
    @eltonkingsley5617 Год назад +4

    The Range Rover 4.0 Thor engine is a TFL website mistake before you rush out and buy one. The Thor 4.0 and Later 4.6 GEMS are both definitely Euro 2.

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  Год назад

      Oh really. Thanks for the update 👍

    • @bispal
      @bispal Год назад

      They are but after extensive research and reading forums it would seem TFL have made an error on the Thor engine cars and not been bothered to correct it. They could take its ULEZ compliant status away but the impact would be so tiny they probably cant be bothered. Perhaps Sadiq Khans dad drives a p38 ;-)

    • @FranzTraininand
      @FranzTraininand Год назад

      @@PetrolPed the L322 supercharged V8 is ULEZ compliant

  • @Renegade1127
    @Renegade1127 Год назад

    My old SMART FORFOUR 1.3 petrol is ULEZ compliant - for now.
    19 years old, 1332cc VVT Mitsubishi engine, 40 mpg urban, 95bhp to pull very little weight.

  • @mikadavies660
    @mikadavies660 Год назад +4

    I commute daily into London and when the first ULEZ zone was introduced I even had to change my motorcycle!! Imagine my motorcycle was not ULEZ compliant but all Bentleys are!!!! A more sceptical person would think the rules are bent...

    • @bispal
      @bispal Год назад +1

      My Vespa did not comply!!!!!

    • @mikadavies660
      @mikadavies660 Год назад +1

      @@bispal Whilst you Vespa & My Honda didn't comply... A Bentley GT does!!! Shows you WHO made the ULEZ rules!!

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  Год назад

      No way 😳

    • @mikadavies660
      @mikadavies660 Год назад

      @@PetrolPed Really the truth
      I use a 4 stroke 600cc Super Scooter daily. Actually now on the 3rd one as the other two passed 100,000 miles each.

  • @keithmyerscough9900
    @keithmyerscough9900 Год назад +1

    Just checked my old merc ml 350. 3.7 v6 petrol. 137k miles on it. Yep it’s compliant , not that I fancy going to London these days. 👍👍👍👍

  • @DoubleDeckerAnton
    @DoubleDeckerAnton Год назад +1

    A lot of surprises here.
    I've seen some late registered Y reg and 51 plate classic Impreza turbo GC8s are ulez compliant when the reg plates go in. They come up as Euro 3 and not Euro 2.

  • @spongatejunction
    @spongatejunction Год назад +1

    This has inspired me to go ahead and learn to drive

  • @timnewbury1792
    @timnewbury1792 Год назад +1

    Thank you
    Pete
    Brilliant again
    Tim

  • @6643bear
    @6643bear Год назад

    Hi great vid Paul , thanks Christ my mgzs 180 is ok . Regards mark

  • @gm0hzi
    @gm0hzi Год назад +5

    just checked and my caterham csr 260 is compliant

  • @alanlewis2032
    @alanlewis2032 10 месяцев назад +1

    following some of the surprise cars shown thought, give it a check. Jaguar F-Type V8 R AWD is ulez compliant, Euro Category 6 CO2 emission rating M-269g / km

  • @howardlake6178
    @howardlake6178 Год назад +2

    Astonishing! Great video, but the S2000. Recently I looked up how big an achievement 240 odd ponies from 2 litres, is. Since 1999, the only cars that have beaten it are Porsches, Ferraris etc. You might want to do a video on engines that changed the world. That VTEC, in my opinion, is the engine of all time……you somewhat downplayed it 😂

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  Год назад

      Yeah an amazing unit. Not sure if it is still the same but when I owned mine at that time Honda had never had an engine failure globally 😮

  • @nigel.w
    @nigel.w Год назад +3

    No. 12 (1997 Porsche 911 993 Tiptronic) was the most surprising to me. Air-cooled 911, and Tiptronic makes a lot of sense for drving in London, at least within the existing ULEZ zone within the North/South Circular roards. That's the one I would personally go for from this list. It's also interesting that it's one year and only with the Tiptronic gearbox.
    [Update: I checked the only 97 993 Tip on AutoTrader with registration plates showing and it was not ULEZ compliant.]
    I also found it interesting to learn that 986 Boxsters are compliant, whereas pre-facelift 996 911s aren't. The other big surprise for me is the P38 4L Range Rover.
    I currently live within the existing ULEZ zone, just inside the North Circular, so ULEZ has become a big thing for me. And if you live in any of the main cities, there's either a central ULEZ zone already or such is planned.
    Some of the cars I would most like to own are sadly not ULEZ compliant, and living within the Zone has made me only consider compliant cars.
    While there are quite a lot of early 2000s cars that are ULEZ compliant, few are in any way exciting. And Euro 4 petrol compliance isn't assured until 2007, maybe even 2008. I also note that some diesels sold as late as 2017 are still not ULEZ compliant, such as, the Maserati VM Motori diesels, which means Euro 6 diesel compliance isn't assured until 2018.
    I think it is also rather poor that AutoTrader has removed the ULEZ compliance selection criteria, stating that it was not wholly accurate, while I note that most of the other information provided on AT is also not wholly accurate. This means you have to enter the registration plate into the TfL online checker, while many of the cars listed on AT don't show their rego plates. Of course, the TfL checker is an invaluable resource, and you always needed to check the rego to make sure, but if you're not looking for a specific model, the removal of the ULEZ compliance search criteria makes finding a ULEZ compliant car much more laborious.
    Anyway, this is an interesting list of cars that has something to appeal to many petrolheads, although it's hardly a list of cheap cars, and it's far from definitive. I knew most of these are ULEZ compliant, but a few surprised me, and I've been looking for ULEZ compliant modern classics for quite a while now.
    What I think would be interesting to a wider audience is a list of 20 modern classics that are ULEZ compliant that you can get a nice example of for less than say 10k, covering hot hatches, sports saloons, sports estates, and SUVs, excluding those cars that have horrendous economy and running costs.
    Another video that I'm not aware of any other RUclipsr having done is one in which you explore what cars are available to buy/lease for less than the cost of commuting in the ULEZ zone with a non-compliant car, which is a minimum of 275 pounds a month for someone who commutes five days a week and doesn't use their car at weekends, up to 387.50 pounds pm. I have seen new city cars for less than 200 a month, including EVs, such as the VW e-UP! and the Renault Zoe. If you showcased half-a-dozen city cars for up to 275pm and half-a-dozen family cars for up to 387.50 a month, I'm sure it would be well received. And you could also get sponsorship by the likes of a leasing company, a finance company, etc.

    • @chevchelios8582
      @chevchelios8582 Год назад

      The goalposts will move. The cameras & LTN’s are for ‘smart road user charging’ which is planned for ‘25-‘26. Basically pay per mile. You will be charged to drive any car that’s why ULEZ is wanted so badly.

    • @nigel.w
      @nigel.w Год назад +1

      @@chevchelios8582 That makes sense, because otherwise, I don't think the ULEZ expansion, especially its costs, makes sense. Of course, pay per mile will increase congestion on the main routes as it will act as a further disincentive to use longer but quicker routes. But, I guess it's all part of the plan to get the poor out of their cars and herded in.

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  Год назад +1

      Thanks for this 👍

  • @jondavies5885
    @jondavies5885 Год назад +1

    Thought the noise camera was a joke. Apparently not! Conti GT sounds comfy for crusing about. Always liked those in

    • @astragreen
      @astragreen Год назад

      What about the deliberately noise from those motorbikes!..

  • @stevencampbell1150
    @stevencampbell1150 Год назад +2

    Thankfully my diesel SUV which is Renault Kadjar is not only Euro 6 compliant but would if I lived in London be able to drive in there. Thing is that I live in Northern Ireland and we don't have emissions zones anywhere but what annoys me about said emissions zones in general is folk are now having to scrap their cars or offered scrappage for their cars when there's literally nothing wrong with them apart from not being emissions zone compliant and what it means is it good cars are going to be taken off the road for no other reason than that. I do accept that it will take the oldest cars off that are knackered and that's not a bad thing but for the cars that are in good condition other than that it's just wrong.

  • @cheetahkid
    @cheetahkid 9 месяцев назад +1

    As a disabled person, I am allow up to 7 years old car to drive, I am guessing they are automatically ULEZ compliances? I don't live in London. But I did notice there a camera in Yorkshire reassembled to the one of ULEZ in Barnsley... I have to check that out.

  • @glynmoore3730
    @glynmoore3730 Год назад +1

    That was surprisingly interesting, and I live "up north", and some amazing cars on the list ..... but you didn't list Vauxhall Mokka Turbo !! amongst them.

  • @Rialas
    @Rialas Год назад +2

    Thanks for this. How was Paul able to confirm 993 tips (1997) being compliant? Much appreciated for any info to get the exemption.
    Edit, my tip is showing as non-compliant, so 12 may be incorrect. Hope not.

  • @jasonogara207
    @jasonogara207 Год назад +1

    Vauxhall/Holden VXR 8 and like the other big engine cars on Paul's list does not make sense how it can be but it is

  • @b25364
    @b25364 Год назад +2

    My supercharged Jaguar XKR is ULEZ compliant.

  • @peterthomas5792
    @peterthomas5792 10 месяцев назад

    My 2005 Honda S2000 is ULEZ-compliant and still fun - 2.0L 237bhp NA roadster - what's not to like?
    I love it to bits.

  • @steveabson2676
    @steveabson2676 Год назад +1

    I'm a little confused, my 2001 E46 M3 on some checkers is compliant but on the TFL isn't. Which one is correct?

  • @ginggur17
    @ginggur17 Год назад +1

    Evening my friend, thankfully it’s not really affective to me, we usually get the train down. 😨👍🇬🇧

  • @garyrobinson6247
    @garyrobinson6247 Год назад

    Great selection of future classics.
    I avoid London like the plague and would never knowingly contribute to the Khant tax. I've just discovered that my BMW530D from 2014 is Euro 6 compliant so I'm okay until the rules are changed again.
    I've had an E46 330i convertible which I loved and wish I still had. I think the M3, although fabulous, may not be the best daily driver. I've always promised myself a Porsche so with my limited budget, probably the boxster, having said that, the Alpha is very pretty, I drove a GTV6 back in the early 80s and was very impressed, it just seemed to pull and pull in every gear, it wasn't mine so I didn't need to worry about it going wrong :D

  • @ScenesThroughTravels
    @ScenesThroughTravels Год назад +1

    I can't believe these cars made it on the compliant list , WOW. This crazy ULEZ makes no sense whatsoever ! 👍👍👍👍

  • @RobertSmith-di5ll
    @RobertSmith-di5ll Год назад +1

    My Sl 320 from 1994 is not compliant - its kept off road bit if I rake it our and put it back on my drive it carries a daily chatge as I am regarded as not having left the zone - how do I get round this?

  • @andrewchatfield7754
    @andrewchatfield7754 Год назад +2

    Hi there I have a 2006 350z with the upreve engine and this is compliant , I'm not sure if the earliest DE version is compliant . The HR version is OK

  • @stippolyte
    @stippolyte Год назад +2

    For those so afflicted does this list also apply to Bristol, Birmingham and any other City zones, I'm assuming they're also emissions based not just congestion charge?

    • @HQBProductions
      @HQBProductions Год назад +2

      Bristol,and Birmingham are the same but with a twist. Unlike the other ULEZ , our 2011 Citroen C3 1.6 Hdi is NOT compliant despite being a 90 gram, zero RFL diesel that returns 60+ mpg. It is because it is Euro 5 and therefore charged but as I type, ONLY in Bristol/Birmingham. Bristol has a nasty boundary deliberately set up to catch people who use just 150m of affected road which is part of Bristol Portway. Be careful!!

  • @davidkruyer8048
    @davidkruyer8048 9 месяцев назад +1

    I bought a jaguar v8 3.5 2004 and is compliant its only done 70 000 miles with full service history for £7000 and is like new Inside and out

  • @southendparaquest
    @southendparaquest Год назад

    I've recently found out my 2001 Saab 93 (NG900) 2.0SE Turbo is compliant. Basically it's down to your NOx emissions. ULEZ limit is 0.08 g/km, my 93 shows on it's registration docs as emitting 0.01 g/km.
    If your vehicle doesn't have emissions figures in your Docs, then contact the manufacturer. THey may be able to supply you with a certificate of conformity. If not, do a web search for garages that can do emissions tests. We're having to do that with certain bikes. Bike limit is 0.15 g/km.

  • @philipparkes5682
    @philipparkes5682 Год назад +7

    Hi Ped
    Well done Paul, great research on your part. From your list the Boxster would be a good choice,
    as I could not afford the Bentley or the TVR. On a more serious note I really sympathise with
    People living & working within the ULEZ zone with non compliant vehicles. Where do they find
    the cash to change? Also we know from past experience politicians and their like are not to be
    trusted, so how long before the rules are tightened again to fund the bankrupt TFL.😬

    • @bispal
      @bispal Год назад +2

      Thanks and exactly, this is just the start. On the news today London Boroughs to tax cars that park and don't meet ULEZ!

    • @philipparkes5682
      @philipparkes5682 Год назад +1

      The sooner Khan is voted out the better. He has not listened to the majority and like ant dictator he is doomed to failure.

    • @robindumpleton3742
      @robindumpleton3742 Год назад

      Why not, you can pick up Continentals for £8K 😁

  • @qtube1980
    @qtube1980 Год назад +1

    I'll stick with my 77' P6 2200 thanks, but a nice selection of modern cars

  • @MVX11V
    @MVX11V Год назад

    My early 3L and 05 diesel jaguar stypes do not comply. Luckily my 02 V8 stype R does. I can only imagine that this is because it spends more time off the road broken than it does on it... actually driving, therefore reducing emissions considerably. I recently got rid of a land rover discovery 2 V8 which was also compliant, with it's around town 9mpg. This ULEZ makes perfect sense.

  • @leekite3453
    @leekite3453 Год назад +3

    Rather than trying to find something ULEZ everyone in the zone should simply refuse to pay and all use the money you would have paid to crowd fund a bloody good lawyer to challenge the insanity and kill it dead.

  • @simonbroddle754
    @simonbroddle754 Год назад +1

    My diesel Subaru Forester is also ULEZ complaint. 110,000 miles and it's perfectly ok. With the clearance it has it'll handle speed bumps as easily as a plough furrow. 😂

  • @RichieRouge206
    @RichieRouge206 Год назад

    My 2005 2.4 petrol auto V70 is surprisingly ULEZ compliant! Only with the 5 speed automatic apparently

  • @neildavis4393
    @neildavis4393 Год назад +1

    I drive a 2003 Subaru Impreza WRX which is ULEZ compliant and Paul's MX5 isn't, how bonkers is that. Though the noise police would catch me 😂😂

  • @jonathan-dough
    @jonathan-dough Год назад +2

    My Jaguar 5.0l V8 supercharged SVrR is ULEZ compliant! What the f**k, not that I am complaining.

  • @jamespink4202
    @jamespink4202 Год назад +1

    Great list! I was shocked my V8 Vantage is good to go... 🤣

  • @djfmitv
    @djfmitv Год назад +2

    Better yet, don't comply with the ULEZ regardless of what vehicle or mode of travel you use

  • @alanwakeman3741
    @alanwakeman3741 Год назад +1

    I was getting excited when my Lotus Elise S1 appeared in 5th place. But when checking on the TfL site it showed that it wasn't compliant.
    Is the Elise S1 REALLY compliant? Do I have to purchase a COC at €226.80 (a quick search) and submit that? It's cheaper to just pay the £12.50 for the number of times I would drive in to London.

  • @johnshaw8013
    @johnshaw8013 Год назад

    My 67reg BMW F30 335d xdrive is ULEZ compliant. 0-60 in 4.5s, 155mph, 310bhp/465lbft its a monster and still does 45+mpg

  • @andyxox4168
    @andyxox4168 Год назад +2

    The daddy of Audi Quattros is the ‘quattro’ and mine is historic and thus exempt!

  • @stucam8110
    @stucam8110 Год назад +1

    Someone needs to make a bumper sticker to stick on these cars, saying “up yours Sadiq Khan it’s ULEZ compliment “

  • @mattlowery
    @mattlowery Год назад +2

    Surely a ND mx5 should be on the list? Especially as Paul is already an mx5 fan...

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  Год назад +1

      His was a Mk1 😢👎

    • @bispal
      @bispal Год назад +1

      The list was aimed at cars made pre 2006, which was the euro 4 cut off. All cars pre euro 4 / 2006 are supposed to be non complaint but all the cars on this list meet euro 4 requirements before it was even invented and that can be proven with a certificate of conformity. So the list was pre 2006 only

  • @CosmicSeeker69
    @CosmicSeeker69 9 месяцев назад +1

    Never - in a month of Sundays would I compare a Lotus Elise with a MX5 - ever. My Mazda lasted 1600 miles before I binned it of ( no longer could I stand those hairdryers rolling around in the boot - or the soulless steering)

  • @glitteryball
    @glitteryball 10 месяцев назад +1

    My son's VW Polo Match automatic is 2001 and is coming up as compliant. His Nox stated on the V5 is below the required 0.08. He would not be able to afford to upgrade due to the dreaded Ulez so is relieved. Check your Nox ratings as sometimes TFL checker is stating some vehicles are uncompliant when they are. If so, apply to your vehicle manufacturer for a certificate of conformity and send it to TFL to update their records. I oppose the Ulez because it's nothing to do with air quality and just another tax on innocent motorists. Vote Mayor Khan out to get rid of Ulez.

  • @EuropaSman
    @EuropaSman Год назад +1

    Out of those on the list, I'd drive the Elise. Interestingly, the Exige S1 and Elise S2 with the K series engine should be ULEZ compliant. The Elise S2 from 2004 had the 1ZZ from the MR2 Mk3 and the 2ZZ from the Celica. The 2ZZ was also fitted to the Exige S2 and was also carried over to the 1.8 version of the MY11 Elise, a.k.a. the Series 3. The 2ZZ Elise S3s are rare beasties. I'm lucky enough to own one. With a red line at 8000rpm, they are addictive!

    • @PetrolPed
      @PetrolPed  Год назад

      Paul aim was to look at cars older than 2005 👍

    • @EuropaSman
      @EuropaSman Год назад

      @Petrol Ped, so the Toyota engined Elise S2 and Exige S2 just sneak in there being launched in 2004 based on Paul's 2005 cut-off. Along with the K series Elise & Exige, that's quite a few pre-2005 Lotus to choose from then that are ULEZ compliant. 😃
      The 190hp 2ZZ engine in NA guise has to be the sweet spot for me, so my ideal car would be a 2004 Exige S2 NA in chrome orange 👍 .

  • @trollmanrs
    @trollmanrs Год назад +1

    Happy to report both my V8's are compliant, Land Rover Discovery 3 with the 4.4 V8 Jaggggg engine, and also a Maserati GranTurismo (which should of been on the list).

  • @cabottaxi
    @cabottaxi Год назад +5

    I used to run a 320d BMW (65 plate ) tourer and was surprised that it was ULEZ compliant and road fund was only £30 a year. 190hp and 290ft ibs torque . Amazing car.

    • @konradc12
      @konradc12 Год назад +1

      My neighbours 520d 2014 is (was since it was recently written off), is ULEZ compliant. Some German diesels are Euro6 earlier than the 2015/2016.

    • @DigiDriftZone
      @DigiDriftZone Год назад

      yes, I am now being forced to sell my 62 plate C class, I am actually looking at the 320d or even 330d, loads more power and torque and somehow that is better for the environment than my 70mpg blue efficiency car that a few years ago was the greenest choice?

    • @ln5747
      @ln5747 Год назад

      Road *tax.

  • @chriscuthbertson
    @chriscuthbertson Год назад +1

    I don't live in London so have never had to deal with ULEZ, but the way people were talking I was expecting it be super strict on what car were compliant. I was expecting euro 5 or 6 for petrol. I would love to know what percentage of cars on the roads would be compliant.

    • @garrycroft4215
      @garrycroft4215 Год назад

      According to Khan 85% comply but I doubt this is the truth.

  • @sasshe9240
    @sasshe9240 Год назад +5

    Dont worry next year they will put up charge and change the criteria as to what is acceptable. their gonna get everybody in the end if they get away with this.