A trial sail of Beneteau's revolutionary new Wingsail rig | Yachting World

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

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  • @permilleuxthibault6226
    @permilleuxthibault6226 3 года назад +20

    To those who want’s news from this boat I sailed her last summer (2020) from it’s ship yard (Saint-Gilles-Croix-de-Vie) to Port-la-Forêt (south britany, France) and it works pretty well ! We were downwind and we reached 10 Kts With 20kts winds.
    The project has been abandonned due to shipyard decision (cost reduction and changing in project développement). The boat stayed in land for 5 years waiting for a buyer and it turn out to be Michel Desjoyeaux

  • @marklong8608
    @marklong8608 10 лет назад +7

    It's wonderful to see one of the major manufacturers trying something innovative. There is huge room for improvement in the efficiency of the standard sail plan. I hope they learn a lot and we see something new coming to the market. Put one of these on a lightweight weekender catamaran and I'll write a check!

  • @davidsicha314
    @davidsicha314 2 года назад +6

    It looks very interesting. I would like to see the reefing process and how the sail behave in strong winds and big waves.

  • @meadmaker4525
    @meadmaker4525 3 года назад +11

    I would be really interesting to see a rig like this, perhaps a little larger, on a 40-50 foot catamaran or trimaran. I hope they've continued developing this.

    • @pioneer_1148
      @pioneer_1148 2 года назад

      With their lower wave drag they could make way better use of the power and truly fly

  • @Daveinet
    @Daveinet 10 лет назад +3

    I had a thought of a similar idea, except I wanted a rotating oval mast to shape the sail. Basically you have the cloth looped around the mast. The front of the mast shapes the leading edge of the wing. You have battons attached to the slot in the rear of the mast. The idea is that the mast rotates farther than the boom. Since the battons are rigid to the boom, they create the curve of the leeward side of the sail. The windward side is stretched flat, just like an airplane wing. Because the mast rotates, one can control the depth of the draft, just by the rotating the mast less or more compared to the boom.

    • @senatorjosephmccarthy2720
      @senatorjosephmccarthy2720 7 лет назад

      Daveinet + A flexible airplane wing. Sounds promising.

    • @LoanwordEggcorn
      @LoanwordEggcorn 2 года назад

      @@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 It's called a morphing wing in experimental/theoretical aviation.

  • @timdunn2257
    @timdunn2257 Год назад +2

    This is a good rig design. My own version predates this, and incorporates junk style sheets that attach along the leach. Junk sheets provide more positive control of the camber, and reduce both the static and jibe loads compared to sheets that attach only at the boom. In essence, the sail is stayed rather than the mast being stayed.

  • @TRabbit1970
    @TRabbit1970 4 года назад +6

    Wharram has been using wing sails for decades, and he developed them from prior designs spanning centuries. This one is a nice combination of sailboarding bows and sail batons, permitting better stability of and control over the shape of the sail.

  • @yachtingworld
    @yachtingworld  10 лет назад +32

    Comparing the speeds with a conventional Sense 43 was the next stage of testing for Beneteau and not available at the time I tested the boat. This project is in development and we were one of the few granted a quick look at where they had got to so far.
    For the full feature and analysis see YW June issue - out Thursday 7 May

    • @ChrisThompson-dh7mv
      @ChrisThompson-dh7mv 7 лет назад +11

      So why not do a follow-up report AFTER the testing? It was three years ago - surely it's been completed now. Or is this like the wing trials in the Seascape 18s, where the wing was shown to be slower and therefore those promoting the wing kept it quiet?

    • @isailwind3471
      @isailwind3471 6 лет назад

      It turned out to be a dog. The mast looks like a freakin telephone pole.

    • @vincent5
      @vincent5 5 лет назад +1

      You have to Pin your comments

    • @RogerWilco1
      @RogerWilco1 4 года назад +1

      It’s years later. Would be nice to have a follow up.

    • @Race353
      @Race353 2 года назад +2

      @@isailwind3471 So what, form follows function. No rigging, only one sail with considerably lower CG. Way less cost to maintain, no rigging to trip over or maintain. Win win. IMO - even if it was a little bit slower, say even 20% slower, I'd still convert to this wing. So much less to do and so much easier to use.

  • @ram25004fun
    @ram25004fun 4 года назад +2

    Funny you say its a new invention when in fact wingsails have been around for decades. My first contact with a wingsail on a cruiser was in the early 2000. Kelsall has always been a strong supporter for wingsails, especially on cats.

  • @minimax9726
    @minimax9726 9 лет назад +4

    This wingsail looks like what we see in windsurfing they call it cam sails and it feels better in the gust than a "normal" batten sail

  • @davidprocter3578
    @davidprocter3578 4 года назад +1

    I remember a chap trying to sell his wing sails at the boat show {Earls Court] back in the early to mid seventies, designed for cruisers, he had little success but a great deal of interest. I wonder if the development and acceptance of wing sails in the racing field will win over the general sailing public ?

  • @Bluenoser613
    @Bluenoser613 10 лет назад +11

    How do you reef? What wind speeds can it handle? How do you rig a storm sail?

    • @aaronr.9644
      @aaronr.9644 7 лет назад +4

      wondering the same

    •  5 лет назад +4

      Every batten is a reef point.

  • @Nagpadawala
    @Nagpadawala 9 лет назад +1

    It was so long ago that I did not think youtube would have any footage BUT there it is. Check out Planesail and the video of the 60's rig pop up. They are the ones that hold all the major patents and were promoting the concept. The boats could even go in reverse. Many a commercial tanker were built with it. So what are the frogs chiming about.

  • @pioneer_1148
    @pioneer_1148 2 года назад

    Why was no jib/genoa fitted alongside the wing? I'm sure that you get plenty of power from the wing but it looks like there's still space and I'm sure you'd get more power with a jib/genoa added.

  • @jcfrazier5853
    @jcfrazier5853 7 лет назад +3

    I think I'm going to experiment with this concept and use one of my old inflatable beds, modify it, and try to use it as a inflatable wing sail on my canoe. Seriously! Then when you are ready to dock overnight, just deflate or take it down and sleep on it. Lol

  • @montiraystyron1546
    @montiraystyron1546 2 года назад

    Saw this same set up on a canvas and paper catamaran in wooden boat's mag. Twenty years ago .

  • @Motrus01
    @Motrus01 3 года назад

    So 7 yrs on. Seemed such a good idea. Any more progress into production cruisers??

  • @lightbox617
    @lightbox617 7 лет назад

    In the 1990's, I was invited to sail a small catamaran on Barnegat bay in NJ USA. At the time, it was the fasted boat I ever drove poorly.

  • @yohon8977
    @yohon8977 4 года назад

    I've never been on a sailboat but after watching this I think I like it LOL

  • @laurentfroggy6631
    @laurentfroggy6631 7 лет назад +38

    2017 now. I haven't heard anymore news on this. Does anyone knows how far this project went?

  • @pforce9
    @pforce9 6 лет назад

    Reminds me of the "Fast 40" back in the late 70's or early 80's. Some guy took a skinny 40 foot boat and put a balanced rig on it similar to what you are showing here. The balanced rig almost did not need a sheet because it would just stay were you put it. Loosening the sheet did nothing, you had to push it out. It had a big single sail that wrapped around the mast and on downwind legs, you opened the thing like a butterfly. He did a few races but eventually we saw him running around with a conventional rig. Anyone out there know any more about this rig?

  • @TampaTec
    @TampaTec Год назад +1

    2 years turned into 8 years later. What ever happened to this evolution of sail boat?

  • @FoxingAround
    @FoxingAround 7 лет назад

    Once you get the bug's out and make it easier to deploy? Like to see it progress. What are people going to do if everything is so automated?

  • @SteveInTheOC
    @SteveInTheOC 3 года назад

    As a old guy this looks fantastic. How do you you reef with this?

  • @rogercrier
    @rogercrier 7 лет назад +2

    Has anyone mentioned "Walker Wingsail" yet? It seemed to work when I was at the helm of one! With today's electronics and today's tech, who knows how good these wings will get. Good luck to the innovators, just ignore the Luddites.

  • @macrumpton
    @macrumpton 8 лет назад +56

    A review of a wing sail with no mention of performance?

    • @jeromefaulle
      @jeromefaulle 4 года назад +3

      It's a double sided junk rig, so less performence then a bermudian/marconi I guess. more over it has 3m2 less then the original rigging for this boat.

    • @tullochgorum6323
      @tullochgorum6323 4 года назад +4

      @@jeromefaulle On the other hand it's a full 100kg lighter, which also wasn't mentioned.

    • @andrewyork3869
      @andrewyork3869 3 года назад

      @@jeromefaulle there is nothing stopping a headsail being used. Maybe not a cutter rig, but a sloop maybe.

    • @martijnheil8825
      @martijnheil8825 3 года назад

      @@andrewyork3869 Just make the wing bigger.. any other sails are gonna interfere with it's airflow

    • @andrewyork3869
      @andrewyork3869 3 года назад

      @@martijnheil8825 you can only make it so big before it becomes mater of practicality namely in regards to mast hight and the center of effort.

  • @Champsvisions3d
    @Champsvisions3d 4 года назад +4

    2020 what is the update on this?

  • @valvetrom
    @valvetrom 10 лет назад +6

    How do you heave to?That rig would be good on a catamaran(like Pha )
    One mast and sail on each hull.

    •  5 лет назад

      Fin keels don't heave to, anyway.

  • @MrTeneric
    @MrTeneric 10 лет назад +1

    Won't say it's the future but like to see the experimentation. Reefing, weather behavior, etc. still a lot of questions to answer. Thought the rig would be heavier but 100K lighter without the hardware. Expensive to build?

  • @WojciechP915
    @WojciechP915 2 года назад

    I wonder how much more lift you can get from this sail vs a conventional modern sail. In Principles of Yacht Design they discuss trying to minimize turbulence over the mast and I can see this design improving that condition.

    • @ericoschmitt
      @ericoschmitt 2 года назад +2

      Compare with hang gliding wings (they are sideways sails!):
      Single surface gliders with exposed crossbar and 30% double surface in the leading edge will have a glide ratio between 9 and 10,5 to 1, something like the Icaro Piuma which has wing tip wands may be at 11.
      Double surface intermediates are at 12 to 14 with 70 to 85% double surface, competition ones with 95% double are at 16:1 and some approach 17:1. Modern rigid wings are at 21:1 like the ATOS.
      These figures could give you an approximation of the potential lift performance gains.
      Older single surfaces without battens (rogallo standards) were around 5:1.

    • @WojciechP915
      @WojciechP915 2 года назад

      @@ericoschmitt that is very useful. thank you for sharing.

  • @matthewprentiss1460
    @matthewprentiss1460 5 лет назад +48

    I'd pay 5 bucks to hear this guy say innovative aluminium vitamin schedule.

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      @elliottrobert6189 3 года назад

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      @edenronald8991 3 года назад

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  • @960Design
    @960Design 7 лет назад

    Reminds me of my first sailboat. Pearson 23C 1984. Very easy to sail.

  • @glandoremarine
    @glandoremarine 7 лет назад

    I work as an engineer on an aerorig yacht called Jacquelina built in Pendennis. We are currently working on a project to do away with the aerorig and modify it to have a non overlaping jib a mast that rotates and a normal boom as the boat sails like shite at present

  • @nealgrieb6660
    @nealgrieb6660 3 года назад +2

    So, it has been 7 years. I've been waiting (5 or so versions of this wander through roughly every 10 years; Oceanwings is another one). What is the hold-up?
    Does anyone have a good read on the pitfalls of unstayed masts? Is that the issue?

    • @glutenfreegam3r177
      @glutenfreegam3r177 2 года назад +2

      Looks like a modern twist on the junk rig...not known for the fastest rigs but excellent for single/short handed sailing and no need to keep damp sails in the cabin which helps fight against mold/moisture.

  • @sailorshavemorefun
    @sailorshavemorefun 9 лет назад +1

    How it handles in stronger wings? it is just released a bit or needs a reef?

  • @TheZzzzzzzz
    @TheZzzzzzzz 7 лет назад

    nice now we getting somewhere I want one

  • @Boris_Chang
    @Boris_Chang 4 года назад

    I’ve known a few sailors who got conked on the head during a “surprise” jibe-one of them actually knocked off the boat and suffering a concussion. I couldn’t tell in this brief video really how much “safer” this wing rig is with a “crash” jibe.

  • @Hoppie1983
    @Hoppie1983 2 года назад +1

    It'd be interesting how this copes with bad weather

  • @ebeegeebeefofeebee3181
    @ebeegeebeefofeebee3181 3 года назад

    How do you feel it?

  • @xoffdraccel1174
    @xoffdraccel1174 4 года назад

    There is no mast reinforcement. So, how are the lift forces balanced? It could be some serious issues at strong wind. But please keep working on it and improving the design. The wing sailing has proven itself before.

  • @911naimplate
    @911naimplate 7 лет назад

    Wow, that's really something Lex!!!
    Seriously, Try a Nonsuch, they got it 100% correct 40 years ago and its much better made and far less of a hassle!!!!!!!

  • @ckeith2011
    @ckeith2011 10 лет назад +1

    Beside it's innovative style, are there any performance benefits to it, like something tangible that we can look at and see that indeed it increases speed or stability?

    • @LoanwordEggcorn
      @LoanwordEggcorn 2 года назад

      In principle it should have lower drag due to streamlining the mast and having a very clean airfoil shape.
      Also it should be easy to reef, but might be easier with junk style mainsheeting.

  •  10 лет назад +40

    Actually, this is not a new idea at all. This is basically a junk rig with an airodynamic fairing added, and it has been independently invented many times. It will point higher and sail faster than other cruising rigs, and it's a dream to reef.

    • @Sean_Coyne
      @Sean_Coyne 7 лет назад +1

      My thoughts exactly. Blondie Hasler would salute you, with a G&T.

    • @f.j.h.4194
      @f.j.h.4194 7 лет назад

      That was my thought as well. There's also some similarities to the Wylie and Nonsuch cat rigs.

    • @radioboys8986
      @radioboys8986 7 лет назад

      also kinda reminds me of a big balanced lug rig

    • @dominiquestephenson1541
      @dominiquestephenson1541 7 лет назад +2

      It's similar to fully cambered windsurfing race sails with large luff sleeves and flat leeches......

    • @davidb.cutter4631
      @davidb.cutter4631 6 лет назад

      M/S Olivebank: Junk rig, same characteristics. An English Claymore 30 converted to junk rig by Peter Tripp prior to 1988. Home port: Kittery, Maine.

  • @peteypie333
    @peteypie333 3 года назад

    Would love an update!

  • @WolfHertzberg
    @WolfHertzberg 10 лет назад

    Two questions for Yachting World:
    1) Is Beneteau looking to add a headsail? It seems to me that there would be no reason a rig like this couldn't work with a jib, genoa or spinnaker.
    2) How does it work with regard to sail controls? On AC-72's we hear about the fancy hydraulics they use to manipulate every surface and corner of the wing. Obviously, traditional sail controls don't work for something shaped like this.
    cheers

    • @texasyankee3512
      @texasyankee3512 10 лет назад +1

      Whole point is no complications, why would you destroy your primary design goal -- simplicity of operation -- by adding complexity ?

  • @nicolasartheau822
    @nicolasartheau822 6 лет назад

    We might say thank you at last ,it is more than forty years that this idea has arisen . What about stormy weather and reduction ?

  • @ManWithAVision
    @ManWithAVision 8 лет назад +5

    Where is Beneteau's Wingsail rig now-Oct 2016? Have they brought it to market yet? Has anyone tried one on a catamaran?

    • @stephencrowther524
      @stephencrowther524 7 лет назад

      ManWithAVision The problem on a catamaran,as with the junk rig,is mast "bury."
      Catamarans have been built with a mast in each hull for both junk and swing wing rigs and worked well,as far as I know.

  • @oldyeller9849
    @oldyeller9849 4 года назад

    Looks somewhat like a cross of the Walker wing sail and a Beirig Camberspar.

  • @terranborn56
    @terranborn56 7 лет назад +1

    It's 2017, any updates from Beneteau?

  • @CheekyMonkey1776
    @CheekyMonkey1776 8 лет назад +2

    How is sail area reduced in heavy weather/high wind?

    • @CockatooDude
      @CockatooDude 7 лет назад

      Just lower it.

    • @Csqd1975
      @Csqd1975 6 лет назад +1

      You can just lower panels, it's the same as junk rig so fast and easy to reduce sail you don't even need to go to mast or tie up sail.

  • @bethells86
    @bethells86 7 лет назад +1

    English had this on Prout Catamarans about 30 years ago. Suddenly its become a cool invention :)

    • @jeromefaulle
      @jeromefaulle 4 года назад +1

      chinese had 3000 years ago, only one side though.

  • @dougfitchmusic
    @dougfitchmusic 10 лет назад

    Cool! I did have to chuckle a bit during the gybe as they discussed safety and the line flipped through the cockpit as if to take off someone's head? Just a a funny little thing. Obviously merely a prototype but I bet this will be the next big thing.

  • @paulpleasur4036
    @paulpleasur4036 4 года назад

    Can this be adapted to other sailboats ?

  • @tinytree100
    @tinytree100 2 года назад

    Can you reef it in high winds??

  • @Tigersmundo
    @Tigersmundo 9 лет назад +3

    On a Catamaran with a genoa HELL YA!!! PERFECT

  • @EnholmesHall
    @EnholmesHall 2 года назад

    So its an Aerorig with a sail that looks a bit more complex

  • @JohnJones1987
    @JohnJones1987 7 лет назад +3

    For all the "wingsails are no good" crowd, the big problem isnt performance as you keep stating, but the fact that you need a unstayed mast. How many of us would be willing to remove all the stays and hope the mast stays upright under passage? With a wingsail that weighs a ton. Not many i bet.
    Moreover, a wingsail mast should be fairly close to the bow. So even if your mast is up to scratch, it's probably in the wrong place.
    So the market for these sails are brand new boats, and buying such a boat really puts you in the wing/junk sail camp for life, as you'd have to move the mast if you wanted to go back to a bermuda.
    So that's why junks/wings aren't as popular as they perhaps should be. Technology-wise, its not exactly rocket science, and they do perform better than anything else. It's just the masts are in the wrong place.

    •  5 лет назад

      I sailed across the Pacific with unstayed masts, 40 years ago. The masts are still standing after a circumnavigation and long voyages. To me, standing rigging is dangerous. Metal fatigue and crevice corrosion make every little metal bit in standing rigging very vulnerable.

  • @andypag1071
    @andypag1071 4 года назад

    How do you reef it?

  • @briansrensen8204
    @briansrensen8204 7 лет назад +1

    So, how did it go with this magic?

  • @mikkoleirimaa1061
    @mikkoleirimaa1061 10 лет назад +2

    Some speed comparison data would have been nice (Sense 43 with both conventional and Wing-rig). It looks quite inefficient...

    • @rainmechanic
      @rainmechanic 9 лет назад +2

      Mikko Tuovinen ... The object in a Cruising Rig is not peak sail efficiency or maximum hull speed.... Its easy of use, safety, low effort single handed sailing, ease of dropping sail and reefing.. All of these features are done better than a Bermuda rig by Junk, Gaff, and these Wing Sail's.. This is the Future of the Cruising Boat.

    • @isailwind3471
      @isailwind3471 6 лет назад

      They ended up being a lot slower with it, esp. off wind. Most sailors will not be interested in this. I have a 50ft Ben i sail alone all the time with no problem at all.

    •  5 лет назад

      Almost as bad as an airplane? Does it hurt to be so clueless?

  • @movieklump
    @movieklump 6 лет назад

    What about the freedom 40?

  • @egenc94
    @egenc94 10 лет назад

    Is it possible to fly a gennaker with this rig. Or a genoa?

    • @DH-sm7sw
      @DH-sm7sw 4 года назад

      Used to on Freedoms 30 years ago - basically same rig

  • @4291juneau
    @4291juneau 4 года назад

    Can it be reefed in a blow?

  •  5 лет назад +1

    There have been reefing furling wingsails for over 60 years.

  • @sirdon9433
    @sirdon9433 4 года назад +5

    Dam! Another of my inventions gone!

  • @jeanfrancoisdetaille
    @jeanfrancoisdetaille 4 года назад

    Twist on the aero Rigg

    • @DH-sm7sw
      @DH-sm7sw 4 года назад

      Jean Francois and Freedoms

  • @mazdarx7887
    @mazdarx7887 8 лет назад +9

    almost two years , where is it

    • @TalkCafe
      @TalkCafe 7 лет назад

      Already 3 years passed and still no news about it.
      Maybe it was a failure and kept it quiet.

    • @appmagician3240
      @appmagician3240 6 лет назад +1

      Make that 4 :)

    • @mikha007
      @mikha007 5 лет назад +1

      they made another one and stuck them on a plane

  • @Serhiy34
    @Serhiy34 7 лет назад

    So what about the revolution now?

  • @effingsix3825
    @effingsix3825 Год назад

    Looks like it needs a leading edge slat.

  • @CheekyMonkey1776
    @CheekyMonkey1776 8 лет назад

    Is it possible to heave-to with this rig?

    • @jpthomason
      @jpthomason 8 лет назад

      +Cheeky Monkees It doesn't look like it, or reef? Sea anchor only maybe?

    • @brimstone33
      @brimstone33 7 лет назад

      Just release the sheet and let the wing luff. It should feather perfectly with no flapping.

  • @icemaneu
    @icemaneu 5 лет назад +2

    2019 now and no sight of wing sail on normal sail boats.

    • @funnelvortex7722
      @funnelvortex7722 4 года назад

      Yeah, they are a really old idea that becomes a hype bubble in the yachting world from time to time. To be fair they are not a horrible idea, but their niche is moreso high speed high performance racing, when it comes to typical cruising their cons largely outweigh their benefits. The people who act like they are this grand new futuristic development are typically marketing journalists.

  • @johnedwards3621
    @johnedwards3621 4 года назад

    Pirate's of yesteryear used fore 'n aft rigs (sloop) because they can sail closer to the wind than anyother type -- for very good reason.
    Being upwind enabled them to periodically lob shells onto their victim until they submitted.
    Off the wind, no other boat can compete with a crab-claw sail unless your course requires frequent tacking.

  • @tomwilliams8675
    @tomwilliams8675 5 лет назад

    I want one!

  • @valeriykuznetsov4429
    @valeriykuznetsov4429 2 года назад

    Dove vederti?

  • @spelunkerd
    @spelunkerd 7 лет назад

    Three years later and I still haven't heard about it. Most sailors I know want to be involved in the complex decision making of sail shape, tacking angles and sheet control. This looks like a rig for those who don't like sailing. But, what do I know, I've always been a luddite, embracing old technology. Come to think of it, many sailors are of like mind, ha ha.

    •  5 лет назад +1

      It is Luddite to prefer the far more complex Marconi rig.

  • @jeanfrancoisdetaille
    @jeanfrancoisdetaille 4 года назад

    Twist on the aero rig

  • @peterdauphinee4587
    @peterdauphinee4587 10 лет назад

    Does it reef?

  • @timhedgesmusiccomposer2861
    @timhedgesmusiccomposer2861 2 года назад

    Yes but how about when you need to redo sail when it’s really windy?

    • @ColinMill1
      @ColinMill1 5 месяцев назад

      If it handles as easily as the junk rigs it's derived from then the answer is that it reefs by simply letting out the halyard to drop one or more panels into the lazy-jacks.

  • @Telcontarnz
    @Telcontarnz 4 года назад +1

    So what happened with this?

  • @rvpirates
    @rvpirates 7 лет назад

    It's been 3 years, did wing sailing become a reality?

  • @melcrose
    @melcrose 9 лет назад +4

    They should put the mast on a pneumatic system that collapses and extends as needed: taking the wing-sail with it.

    • @senatorjosephmccarthy2720
      @senatorjosephmccarthy2720 7 лет назад +1

      Jeff Wulf + weight, complications, expense, maintenance...

    • @melcrose
      @melcrose 7 лет назад

      Wait: things break down on sailboats? (You're absolutely right on all points) :)

  • @Carterofmars
    @Carterofmars 6 лет назад

    How would one go Hove-to?

    •  5 лет назад

      I've never known of a fin keel Marconi sloop that could heave to.

  • @Spar19row
    @Spar19row 7 лет назад

    I can't believe you did not say anything about boat speed.

  • @Stevie671
    @Stevie671 4 года назад

    This is probably silly, but why doesn't the mast revolve?That way you could fix the rigging. Ok,go on, shoot me.

  • @aldobongers807
    @aldobongers807 3 года назад

    I would love to see two on either side of a cat

  • @chasx7062
    @chasx7062 Год назад

    The "junk" rig??? Wharram Wingsail or modernised Gaff rig is better?

  • @golf61
    @golf61 10 лет назад +1

    Nonsuch sailing boats have been in this, single mainsail only, direction for many years. I believe the "wingsail" is coming up fast.

    • @theovanveen5375
      @theovanveen5375 9 лет назад +2

      golf61 This is an old concept really. I've had an aero rig on my boat for about 10 years now. Same principal.

  • @MrLoribv
    @MrLoribv 7 лет назад

    How does it furl?

  • @vincent7520
    @vincent7520 7 лет назад

    It's only a variation of the "cat rig" that has been in existence for … decades if not centuries !…
    And this particular versions has been under sea trials since 50 years as articles in Yachting World and others magazines show.

    • @vincent7520
      @vincent7520 7 лет назад

      PS Not to mention the junk rig * !!!… (where's my head ???…)
      * And the western version with Jester and a few other yachts.

  • @byronfranklin3612
    @byronfranklin3612 4 года назад

    Myself and two partners were at the Miami yacht show back around 1983 and tried to show you guys this way back then but nobody would listen to us the inventor of that type of sale is passed away many years ago now we tried hard to show the world that there’s a better way to make a sailboat travel but nobody would listen. The man’s name was Warner Martin Moss

  • @SandyGarrity
    @SandyGarrity 10 лет назад +8

    It will suit some but not me.

  • @DaveWatts_ejectamenta
    @DaveWatts_ejectamenta 2 года назад

    But is it faster than the normal rig?

    • @ColinMill1
      @ColinMill1 5 месяцев назад +1

      Without the drag of standing rigging and with the mast inside an aerofoil section I wouldn't bet against it.

  • @davidnelson2561
    @davidnelson2561 10 лет назад +1

    looks sketchy to me @3:40 with that big loop of line ready to grab the napper by the neck.

  • @dundeedolphin
    @dundeedolphin 4 года назад

    Performance information would have been good.

  • @shinjithenegotiator2795
    @shinjithenegotiator2795 4 года назад

    its been six years

  • @bill739123
    @bill739123 8 лет назад

    Does this company have a patent on this new design ? Very good stock to have if they do have a patent on the design. Please let me know Thanks

  • @a-skepticalman6984
    @a-skepticalman6984 7 лет назад +1

    It looks like a lot of delicate stuff to break in a blow or mishandling incident.

  • @petergrundy8081
    @petergrundy8081 4 года назад

    Interesting

  • @hersailor
    @hersailor 8 лет назад +1

    New stuff is cool but I was taught in the beginning, never have something you can' fix yourself. My gather is that's a carbon fiber mast. The sail is twice the yardage. Besides the price though... I'm too old to relearn a new rig... I would be vulnerable to big mistakes like wondering out on deck half asleep and peeing over the side, leaning out against the shrouds that are now gone. I love my boat. Send me a new rig. I'd love to shake it out on my old Rawson 30+3

    •  5 лет назад

      Solid hand rails, friend, and a pilot house with hand rails on top.

  • @lastmanstanding1954
    @lastmanstanding1954 4 года назад

    BUT , IS IT FAST ? THIS WAS 2014 , IT IS NOW 2020 AND I HAVE NOT HEARD A THING ABOUT IT, SO MAYBE IT DIDN'T PASS MUSTER.