Surface Pen vs Lenovo Precision Pen 2 (on Lenovo P11 Pro)

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  • Опубликовано: 14 ноя 2024

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  • @onefive151515
    @onefive151515 2 года назад +37

    My precision pen 2 stop working and I thought it's broken but I try everything I can it still no use so I went on line and saw a post in reddit the guy says if you press both buttons and hold it for 30 seconds it will reset the pen so I tried and now it works perfectly! I even went to Lenovo repair office but they don't even know about this reset method! They told me if it's in 1 year warranty they will replace a new one for me but if it's out of 1 year warranty they told me to throw away and just buy a new one! This is just crazy!

  • @Figuremakr
    @Figuremakr 3 года назад +7

    Pen button customization is app-dependent on Android. I am able to configure both side buttons in Infinite Painter to various in-app functions on the Wacom Bamboo Ink V2 w LG Velvet phone.

  • @AaravBarua
    @AaravBarua 3 года назад +4

    I would buy the lenovo precision pen 2 but it is not available in my country India 😢. Thank teoh for an trustworthy substitute 😀

  • @Manio1151
    @Manio1151 3 года назад +7

    this is exactly what i needed thank you 😊

  • @MrCoolByte
    @MrCoolByte 3 года назад +14

    Thank you for the detailed review. I'm surprised that the MPP-based surface pen works on the wacom aes digitizer of the lenovo tablet. Can you check whether the lenovo pen works on the surface devices?

    • @Manio1151
      @Manio1151 3 года назад +4

      teoh do this too

    • @gmosc
      @gmosc 3 года назад +3

      Yes please do that.

    • @ANHAEYOU_333
      @ANHAEYOU_333 2 года назад

      작동합니다.

    • @blue4059
      @blue4059 2 года назад +20

      A little late, but to explain a few things for people who might come across this video,
      - This older "Surface Pen" is MPP 2.0 Tilt only. So this means Lenovo Tab P11 Pro is using MPP 2.0 digitizer
      - Lenovo "Precision Pen 2" has 3 protocols - MPP 2.0 Tilt, AES 2.0 Tilt, and Wacom WGP
      - New 2021 "Surface Slim Pen 2" is MPP 3.0, which is backwards compatible with MPP 2.0 devices
      - Wacom AES versions are NOT backwards compatible with each other, but some styluses support multiple versions of AES
      - Digitizers of MPP 2.0, AES 2.0 and USI all support Tilt, BUT their styluses are Tilt OPTIONAL, so make sure the pen specifically mentions "Tilt Support" if you need this feature
      - Stylus performance order goes: APP (Apple) = EMR (Samsung/Wacom) > MPP 3.0 (Microsoft) > MPP 2.0 = AES 2.0 (Wacom) > HPP (Huawei) > USI (Chromebook) > MPP 1.5 > AES 1.0 > MPP 1.0
      - MPP digitizer is used on windows devices from Microsoft/HP consumer/Asus/MSI, and few android devices like Lenovo, Xiaomi, etc
      - Wacom AES digitizer is used on windows devices from Lenovo/HP business/Dell/Acer
      - Wacom EMR digitizer is used on Samsung android tablets, and windows devices from Samsung Galaxy/Acer Ezel series

    • @MrCoolByte
      @MrCoolByte 2 года назад

      @@blue4059 Thanks alot for the info

  • @gmosc
    @gmosc 3 года назад +1

    I agree that I would like to see the Lenovo pen used on a Surface Pro. I have 3 surface devices and 2 surface pens. I bought an alldocube 30 android tablet because it also could use the same stylus. The tablet broke very quickly. I trust Lenovo might last longer.

  • @RainerK.
    @RainerK. 2 года назад +1

    Line tests are probably best done with a ruier. That way you can be sure that you get the same results.

  • @Marlyjade
    @Marlyjade 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for this because I had to actually get a new laptop because my surface broke but I don't want to replace the pen because it's super good. The only thing I hate about the patent is I don't think it has tilt sensitivity but in all honesty I don't really need that too much

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 2 года назад

      the surface has tilt sensitivity atleast if it is a newer one.

  • @hieuNguyen-cl6pz
    @hieuNguyen-cl6pz 3 года назад +5

    Does the surface pen work on yoga 7i?

  • @momaier
    @momaier Год назад +2

    Good video, thanks for that. Weird question, though: did the Surface Pen work out of the box? I've got a M10 Plus (3rd gen.), which in theory should use the same three pen protocols than the P11 pro, at least according to the spec sheets, but the Surface pen won't be recognized. I saw in Settings/Pen, that the Lenovo Pen should be touched to the screen and button pressed, which might be Lenovo-specific, to activate the digitizer for the first time? Or is the M10 plus entirely incompatible for some obscure reason?

    • @teohontech7141
      @teohontech7141  Год назад

      Lenovo M10 Plus is compatible with Lenovo Precision Pen 2 which uses Wacom AES 2. But Microsoft pen supports MPP so it's probably not compatible.

    • @momaier
      @momaier Год назад

      @@teohontech7141 Thanks very much for the quick answer! Is AES (only) certain? After more searching, I just found a reddit thread claiming it's WGP. Yeah, I think I may have read the spec sheet wrong. It says WGP, AES and MPP, but this apparently refers to the pen itself as listed under pen input, not the tablet as such... I must have assumed the P11 and M10 should be close enough, so your video using the Surface pen gave me hope. Well, that's too bad: I now have pens from various devices lying around with Wacom EMR, with MPP, and whatever obscure protocol Chuwi used a few years back... nothing works with the M10+ and I'd rather return the tablet than spend more money on yet another pen.

    • @dovgolovaty3910
      @dovgolovaty3910 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@teohontech7141 do you know if the pen of Microsoft surface pro 3 is compatible with Lenovo Tab P11 Pro?

    • @teohontech7141
      @teohontech7141  11 месяцев назад

      @@dovgolovaty3910 Not compatible

  • @SimonBauer7
    @SimonBauer7 2 года назад +1

    precision pen 2 wins for the rechargability aspect alone. no weird aaaa batterys to obtain

  • @fireworkskrcho
    @fireworkskrcho 3 года назад

    Great comparison !!

  • @informol9843
    @informol9843 15 дней назад

    how to pair microsoft pen with lenovo tablet?

  • @122386json
    @122386json 3 года назад +4

    Hi Can you confirm if active pen 1 can use to lenovo p11. not pro

  • @kaisermarcellus
    @kaisermarcellus 2 года назад

    surface pen is low price comparate precision pen 2, very good test

  • @DobleDPZ
    @DobleDPZ Год назад

    Podria poner un video de como enlazar el surface pen con la lenovo tab p11 pro?

  • @개미와그물
    @개미와그물 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for the good video. I've seen all the other videos involved.
    I have a question.
    Does p11 pro support both aes2.0 and mpp? Why is the surface pen working?
    Are all working pens connected to p11 pro by Mpp?
    It doesn't make sense if the p11 pro doesn't support all of the aes,mpp, and it's amazing.

  • @huonglan2725
    @huonglan2725 2 года назад

    many thanks

  • @DobleDPZ
    @DobleDPZ Год назад

    What do I have to do to connect my surface pen to my lenovo p11 pro 2 gen tablet? Thank you

  • @glennaa11
    @glennaa11 3 года назад

    I have an old Asus Z stylus that is supposed to be Ntrig but it doesn't work with this tablet. That was disappointing. It's all very confusing. I don't really want to spend $70 for a pen I may not use much

  • @d7ome492
    @d7ome492 2 года назад

    Compare those with huawei plz

  • @anetabanach910
    @anetabanach910 Год назад

    how to configure buttons?

  • @DJMatjas
    @DJMatjas 2 года назад +4

    I have a question, how to connect Surface Pen with Lenovo Tab P11?

  • @lielikevortigern113
    @lielikevortigern113 2 года назад

    Man I'm still confused on why the hell is replacement nibs for the PP2 is almost imposible to find...

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 2 года назад

      wacom bamboo ink plus nibs will work.

  • @rmeoX13
    @rmeoX13 2 года назад

    How surface pen work with wacom aes ?????

  • @verticalhorizontal5840
    @verticalhorizontal5840 2 года назад

    Amazing video.... Can you please tell me will Lenovo Active Pen 2 work with P11 plus tablet...
    Will highly appreciate if you answer my query..thnx

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 2 года назад

      i had the same question.as far as i know only the lenovo precision pen 2 works with it (i dont know about the precision pen 3). the precision pen 2 is the black hexagonal one shown in this video

    • @verticalhorizontal5840
      @verticalhorizontal5840 2 года назад +1

      @@SimonBauer7 Thnx bro. You saved me plenty of money ... Was about to order Active pen 2 ...

  • @celald
    @celald 2 года назад

    "Both active stylus work on the Lenovo P11 Pro Android tablet": how about the opposite? Works the Lenovo pen on Windows tablet, e.g. Surface (Book); can a Lenovo pen replace a surface pen?

    • @teohontech7141
      @teohontech7141  2 года назад

      Lenovo pen does not work on Surface

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 2 года назад

      @@teohontech7141 but it does. it supports mpp.

  • @kuchbhichalega-anythingwil9588
    @kuchbhichalega-anythingwil9588 3 года назад

    Will lenovo precision pen 2 work with Lenovo duet chromebook

  • @ShrawanRegmi
    @ShrawanRegmi 2 года назад

    Great comparision/ Do you think either of them will work on old 2-in-1 laptops like Acer Switch 5 (it comes with Acer Active Pen) ? Thanks.

    • @teohontech7141
      @teohontech7141  2 года назад +1

      Not sure about that. Most pens are not interchangeable across different brands.

    • @ShrawanRegmi
      @ShrawanRegmi 2 года назад

      @@teohontech7141 thanks because the surface pen works with it so was hoping the precision would too. I've ordered it to see if it works.

    • @canalcanal5386
      @canalcanal5386 2 года назад

      @@ShrawanRegmi It Works?

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 2 года назад +1

      @@canalcanal5386 should do. the precision pen 2 is a tri protocoll pen. it supports wacom aes (lenovo 2 in 1 laptops), wacom wgp (lenovo android tablets) and mpp which is the same one the surface pen uses. so if the surface pen works this one will work too.

  • @ashyxt
    @ashyxt Год назад

    hi, my Precision Pen 2 bottom button (Erase function) is not working on M10 Plus HD 3rd Gen, no matter the app, does anyone have similar experience to share? please help, thank you

  • @Ambitiouz_mindset
    @Ambitiouz_mindset 2 года назад

    Looking at the yoga 7i I gen 7 16 inch and wondering does the precision pen work on it?

  • @dobaolamdo
    @dobaolamdo Год назад

    how did u conect it to use the palm rejection ?

  • @picklec3st
    @picklec3st 2 месяца назад

    Hey, I just want to ask but I have an Android 11 PC Tablet, but I want some stylus recommendations. The stylus I got didn't have me pressure sensitivity or tilt. Do you guys have any suggestions?

    • @teohontech7141
      @teohontech7141  2 месяца назад +1

      If your tablet does not mention pen support, there won’t be a stylus that will have pressure that can work with it

    • @picklec3st
      @picklec3st 2 месяца назад

      @@teohontech7141 I guess I'll just give up...

  • @frednoce3043
    @frednoce3043 3 года назад

    Hi,
    Thank you for this comparison video...very informative! I have a Lenovo Tab P11 (not pro). I've been able to pair my surface pen to the tablet, but am not able to get it to work at all (bamboo notes, etc...). Am I missing a step in order to make this work like in your video? Thanks in advance.

    • @teohontech7141
      @teohontech7141  3 года назад

      I'm not sure. Can the Surface Pen be used to click on things? If so the pen is working but not drawing. You have to test with some drawing apps. Free ones to test with are Medibang Paint, Concepts.

    • @frednoce3043
      @frednoce3043 3 года назад

      @@teohontech7141 thanks for the prompt reply. Nope, while the tablet indicates the the pen is indeed paired, but the tablet is unresponsive to pen clicks or writing.

    • @teohontech7141
      @teohontech7141  3 года назад

      @@frednoce3043 Maybe try to unpair and write. Actually no pairing is necessary for the pen to work.

    • @frednoce3043
      @frednoce3043 3 года назад

      @@teohontech7141 Tried that too…unfortunately, it’s not working on the P11. I guess my only option is going to be using the Precision Pen 2. Truly appreciate your help and suggestions!

    • @jusikpark4100
      @jusikpark4100 3 года назад +3

      surface pen cannot be used with p11 but with p11 pro.

  • @blue4059
    @blue4059 2 года назад +1

    Hey Teoh, I am a little confused. Is the Lenovo pen behaving "more sensitive" and having "lower initial activation force" a good thing?

    • @teohontech7141
      @teohontech7141  2 года назад +1

      Yes because this allows pen to detect minimal pressure changes to draw lines more accurately. But more importantly is whether the diagonal lines have jitter/wobble which is the deal breaker

    • @blue4059
      @blue4059 2 года назад

      @@teohontech7141 Thanks!

  • @fcbl9473
    @fcbl9473 3 года назад

    Great tutorials. I just got a precision pen 2 for my p11 pro but...how do i get it to pair? No instructions or anything in settings to connect the pen?

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 2 года назад

      a bit late and you probably have figured it out already but you dont need to pair it, in fact you cant as there is no bluetooth. just tap the screen with the precision pen 2 once and the pen should start working.

    • @adrianalexisoscar1369
      @adrianalexisoscar1369 Год назад

      On bamboo pen you need to click both bottoms and it will be set
      Its annoying that you need to do that everytime

  • @juliusignacio9264
    @juliusignacio9264 2 года назад

    I'm so confused which stylus to get. I don't know anything about stylus specs. I'm looking for a pen that would work well with p11 pro. Is the surface pen good enough? I noticed it relatively cheaper than precision pen 2.

  • @prabhuramselvan
    @prabhuramselvan 3 года назад

    Which has better Tilt sensititiy ?

  • @rockbrasil9822
    @rockbrasil9822 2 года назад

    What This is model surface pen please?

  • @i_mmm_u
    @i_mmm_u 2 года назад

    Does pp2 has considerable input lag....m thinking of buying lenovo m10 fhd 3rd gen tablet for drawing....or should i go for ipad 9

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 2 года назад

      it doesnt have much input lag (only if you make very fast lines the line lags behind a bit, everything else is fine)

  • @RodisOne
    @RodisOne 2 года назад

    Where can you find replacement tips lenovo precision pen 2?

    • @teohontech7141
      @teohontech7141  2 года назад

      Try AliExpress

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 2 года назад

      @@teohontech7141 as far as i know the wacom bamboo ink plus nibs will work.

  • @temidayoabayomi-zannu8164
    @temidayoabayomi-zannu8164 2 года назад +1

    Hi, can the surface pen work on the regular P11?

    • @elina3921
      @elina3921 2 года назад +1

      Pretty badly, you should try it but in my experience it doesn't kind of work.... If you use it normally like a pen it doesn't do anything at all but when you tilt it like so little angle that screen touches the side part of the tip of the pen, you can click things but it doesn't draw....

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 2 года назад +1

      no it doesnt work. just get the precision pen 2, active pen 3 or lazarite m pen.

  • @clarenceg.7789
    @clarenceg.7789 5 месяцев назад

    😃😃 Does Samsung pens work with lenovo?

    • @teohontech7141
      @teohontech7141  5 месяцев назад

      No

    • @clarenceg.7789
      @clarenceg.7789 5 месяцев назад

      ​@teohontech7141 Shame. And how about how works lenovo precision pen 2 vs S pen on their respective tablets? ​@@teohontech7141

  • @Vall_Ey
    @Vall_Ey 3 года назад

    Wait what, Lenovo using MPP instead of AES?

    • @teohontech7141
      @teohontech7141  3 года назад +1

      This Lenovo uses Wacom AES

    • @Vall_Ey
      @Vall_Ey 3 года назад +1

      @@teohontech7141 so is that mean is MPP pen is really works on AES?
      Wow this is really surprising

  • @shipsori1574
    @shipsori1574 2 года назад

    Is the precision pen compatible with the lenovo ideapad flex 5 ?

  • @michh2836
    @michh2836 3 года назад +1

    Lenovo 💪👍😍🤗💥🔥🔥🔥

  • @kaisermarcellus
    @kaisermarcellus 2 года назад

    surface pen active rejection palm?

    • @teohontech7141
      @teohontech7141  2 года назад +1

      Yes, but how good palm rejection is will also depend on the apps you use.

  • @flpmarin
    @flpmarin 3 года назад +1

    Hi, the surface pen works on lenovo P11 (not pro) also?

  • @hurrycanger
    @hurrycanger 3 года назад

    Are they the same technology? I'm looking to buy a Lenovo Flex 14 and I have a Surface Pen (from Surface Pro 4). I wanna know if the Surface pen will work on it. Thanks

  • @nithinpremchand663
    @nithinpremchand663 3 года назад

    Sir, from where we can by a new battery for the precision pen??

    • @teohontech7141
      @teohontech7141  3 года назад +1

      That Precision Pen uses a built-in battery. You can't replace the battery.

  • @Shivanya.here7
    @Shivanya.here7 2 года назад

    Will the Wacom one pen work with Lenovo p11 (not pro) tab ??? 😭

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 2 года назад

      no, as it uses the wacom emr protocoll, the tablet uses the wacom wgp protocoll meaning only the precision pen 2 and active pen 3 work with it.

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 2 года назад

      also the lazarite m pen works.

  • @martingarciavaamonde
    @martingarciavaamonde 3 года назад

    does the surface pen works on the common p11?? (not the pro)

  • @张建强-k1c
    @张建强-k1c 3 года назад

    你是怎么做到的

  • @Philipp-ke2tb
    @Philipp-ke2tb 3 года назад

    Is there any way to turn of the pen Cursor?

    • @dorajerry3220
      @dorajerry3220 3 года назад

      I think you can find that option in the pen setting

  • @johnplacente
    @johnplacente 3 года назад

    Hi teoh my precision pen 2 is not working on my lenovo p11 tab pro. How do you connect it to tablet?

    • @teohontech7141
      @teohontech7141  3 года назад

      Not sure. Lenovo Precision Pen 2 does not require connection. It does not have Bluetooth. Maybe contact Lenovo to see what they say. Not sure if it's a faulty pen.

    • @theslayad9979
      @theslayad9979 2 года назад

      Which one do you have

    • @theslayad9979
      @theslayad9979 2 года назад

      Pro or plus

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 2 года назад

      @@theslayad9979 doesnt matter as the procedure is the same for both. just tap the screen with the pen and the pen should start working. he has the tab p11 pro.

  • @marcomarquez25
    @marcomarquez25 3 года назад

    Is Lenovo pen, an active or capacitive stylus?

  • @pythonq
    @pythonq 3 года назад +2

    so does the lenovo pen only work on their pads or also on other devices like my yoga 9i?

    • @tenerife_sea
      @tenerife_sea 3 года назад +1

      I too have the yoga 9i and wondering the same thing...

    • @pythonq
      @pythonq 3 года назад +1

      @@tenerife_sea I tested it, all AES2 pen should work on it

  • @shivakrishna1491
    @shivakrishna1491 3 года назад

    Bro app name plz

  • @JuanGelogo
    @JuanGelogo 11 месяцев назад

    You should practice drawing lines your not that smooth.

  • @dorajerry3220
    @dorajerry3220 3 года назад +1

    Can the surface pen be used on a Lenovo ideapad c340 ?