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B5 Station Explained | A Dream Given Form | Babylon 5 Lore
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2023
- A breakdown of the iconic Babylon 5 space station and its significance to the universe of Babylon 5. At the dawn of the third age of mankind this space station served a pivotal role in interstellar diplomacy and key military engagements. This port of call open to refugees, smugglers, entrepreneurs and wanderers from hundreds of worlds is the last best hope for peace in a war-torn galaxy.
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B5 was and is the greatest TV-based sci-fi show ever. The writing, the acting, the 5 year arc.......fantastic. There will never be another show quite like it. The cast was indescribably great. The story was compelling and gripping. And the "Great Maker" was a genius. I love the show, and love watching it time and again.
Exactly this.
JMS is a genius! :)
I was like 13 when this was airing, favorite show other than Robotech.
I knew it was gold made on a budget at the time.
In retrospect it’s quite remarkable how much the first true US TV space opera shaped the sci-fi landscape of today.
Without B5, we might not have got The Expanse or BSG.
when does the acting actually pick up? i can never get past the first few episodes because how cringe the acting is.
@@FelixzWrath82 to be honest I find the acting a mixed bag. The show as a whole picks up in season 2. You can really start watching there.
The Newtonian physics of Starfury combat and the O’Neil cylinder design set my imagination going more than the less realistic sci-fi’s of my childhood. B5 was the first long-form TV series that laid the groundwork for so many of the great stories we love today.
Bless your shimmering soul for this ... 48 yrs on this earth and it is still my favorite epic scifi series of ALL TIME!
Even with all the modern scifi shows made since then, and some of them really good, I keep coming back to Babylon 5. It continues to be one of the best scifi shows ever made. It has great characters with proper arcs, some of them as heroes to look up to, and some of them with tragic falls from grace. It's well written, well cast, well acted, and well planned, with huge wars and deeply personal stories. It was even cheap to make and easy to shoot for the cast and crew, who could often make it home to have dinner with their family. Truly lightning in a bottle.
"The Babylon Project was our last, best hope for peace. It failed. But, in the Year of the Shadow War, it became something greater: our last, best hope... for victory. The year is 2260. The place: Babylon 5."-Commander Ivanova
Still get goosebumps.
I've been Babylon 5-fed since I was a child, I'm 32 now, and loving this show really makes me feel kinship with all those older people that love it too haha
This series has poetry, deep thought, tearjerkers, some form of innocence, from time to time, and there aren't enough nouns and adjectives to describe the full scale of the experience.
I will always cherish B5.
It is my home.
It is carved into my DNA now.
I hope many more get to taste this gem, and I have the impression that this series is getting some light shed on it recently, am I wrong?
This will always be my favourite sci-fi show of all time. Because the writing was, and is, the best I've ever seen. JMS planned everything out. The entire story, every arc was meaningful. Seeing a small detail or inconsequential comment come back to roost 2 seasons later was beautiful. And the use of 'trapdoors' for every character was amazing.
I truly hope JMS can exert full control and give us another great story.
I'd love to hear more about the character 'trap doors.' Sinclair and Delen share the same door, but in opposite directions. Sheridan is space Jesus, Bester seems heatless, but he actually cares too much, Garibaldi is Space Judas. What are some others?
@@kawh8719 No, the trap doors were 'outs' for the actors. If an actor wanted to leave the show, they had an prewritten that could remove them without hurting the story too much. IIRC the only used Talia's in the show. Lyta then took over Talia's role. The only thing that was hurt was a romance between Talia and Ivanova.
It's actually referenced a few times. Delenn tells Sebastian that if she dies during his inquisition, another will take her place. Justin tells Sheridan the Shadows can't kill him, because someone else would come along and replace him. JMS understood the vagaries of television production, and knew that an actor might suddenly become unavailable for a variety of reasons, so had plans in place to jettison any character and replace them. It's been said that Vir could step into Londo's shoes and fill his arc, but I'm not entirely sold on that, I think it more likely another Centauri would be sent to replace Londo as the ambassador to Babylon 5, and slid into Londo's role of having made his Faustian bargain with the Shadows.
It's genius, really. The show holds up so well, even against modern Myth Arc dramas, because everything was planned out in advance, but there was still room to nudge things in different directions, adapt to the realities of making a TV show, so things wouldn't suddenly fall apart if someone left.
As always, great stuff Elaine. My favourite character was Walter Koenig's Alfred Bester. Mr. Koenig's best work. I didn't learn until recently that Straczynski named him after the famous sci-fi writer. B5 had some of the best acting I have ever seen. Fingers crossed the reboot goes ahead.
Even bad guys go on picnic's...
Londo and G'Kar are two of the greatest characters ever. Love me some B5. We Live for the One, We die for the One.
This is probably the best Scifi show to ever have been on TV. The CGI holds it back from being a classic for many people but that is such a small part of what the show is that it just shouldn't matter in my opinion.
The thing about B5 that always stood out to me was in contrast with just about every other Sci fi show B5 was a station that still had a ghetto
I still think one of my favorite B5 moments us when they are breaking away from EA, and they fend off the first attack only to have a second fleet appear. Just when all looks lost, Delen jumps in with the Grey fleet and tells EA that B5 is under Minbari protection. Then tells the EA fleet only one human ever beat a Minbari fleet in battle (John Sheridan) and that he is behind her, they are in front of her and if they value their lives they should be elsewhere. Actually, the whole Earth civil war and G'Kar and Londo's stort were my most favorite parts of the show.
The best part of that exchange?
EarthForce: Do not force us to engage your ships.
Delenn: Why not?
The episode when Sheridan left because his time was up. I found it a very good but sad episode.
The episode “severed dreams” where Babylon 5 declares its dependence then fights an epic battle against the new military dictatorship on earth is the most eye poppingly amazing hour of TV I have ever seen. They built up to that episode over two and a half seasons. It was unprecedented at the time and I’m still amazed that the networks let them pretty much complete the 5 year story arc. Babylon 5 helped me get through the roughest time in my life and the love that I have for that show and the character development will stay with me forever…
There are two "events" that stand out for me during Babylon 5. The "Day of the Dead", and the revelations about Babylon 4 and Sinclair / Valen.
As always thank you so very much for the video.
I sure do love Babylon 5!! Although there are several series that I really like alot, B5 is (arguably) the best!
I really really hope that the "Great Maker" JMS is able to successfully convince some major studio to make some more original B5 some day!! Hey, it can happen!!
Thanks for covering this - Nicely Done!
I was in the Lurkers forums as this came out. The show was great, but the interaction between creator and audience has not been equaled until “The Expanse” podcasts came out. That show owes a huge debt to B5 showing that a hard-sci-fi show could succeed. B5 is better, and complete, but The Expanse somehow feels more reachable. Time to go watch “And the Rock Cried Out” again!
I think there exists a misconception about the size of the stations. The 5 miles figure is actually for a part of the stations. The real size being like 8 miles.
Spacedock talked about it in their recnt video :"Why do Sci-fi ships seem to change size". Which is a general look at sizing issues in sci fi visual media.
Thanks for pointing this out I'm glad someone beat me to it!!! 🤠👍
Still the greatest sci-fi show of all time and one of those shows I just love re-watching over and over as I get older. I am looking forward to the day my kids are old enough to watch and enjoy this show with me. From the epic story, to the phenomenal characters and their various arcs, to the amazing space battles, this show has a little bit for everyone who is a fan of just a great show.
@nerdcookies, first of all, happy new year to all and best wishes for the new year.
Secondly, as always, love your content every single time, thanks for everything you do.
Thirdly, your question.
3.a) When G'Kar is expelled from the council, no one under the force of arms.....free.
3.b) When Delenn is defending, if you value your lives, be somewhere else.
3.c) Londo to Morden, when blowing up the Island, well.... actually.....now that you mention it.....
3.d) Sheridan when final approach to earth, your children have come home.
And so many more.
Best regards,
David
Always great presentation, thank you for keeping this series alive
The scene when Sheridan calls down his White Star to destroy the Shadow capitol and then jumps into the abyss on Z'ha'dum.
B5 was one of the best series on television. I am sorry it did not get the support that the Star Trek franchise received. Love your content. Especially the intro. A great way to wind down the day.
I see Nerdcookies B-5 lore videos and I upvote. More please.
Loved this show, and it still remains a favourite. Thanks for bringing this lore video about it to the channel.
A dream given form, that became the last glimmer of hope on a Galaxy in darkness.
I will always love this show for as long as I live. The Omega-Class Destroyer is second only to the Star Destroyer in my favorite ships in Science Fiction.
I could really use a solid, well executed, reboot set in the B5 universe
nah do what they did with TOS star trek and just update all the CGI
Yay!!!! Afternoonie Babylon 5 Cookies!!!🤩🤩🤩
I love this show and didn't get into it until a few years after its initial run. I consider it the best serial format TV show ever made with SG-1 a very close second if not tied.
I love both this and DS9
One of the greatest Sci Fi series ever, a great story, awesome ships and effects and a brilliant cast. Certainly one of my top 5 of most excellent series and space dramas. Thanking for sharing as always. Happy New Year. Have a very Geeked out day. Stay safe.👽🖖🤓
Another fantastic video :)
Yay cookies today!
So who besides me noticed the connection between Babylon 5 and the writings of Michael Moorcock? Vorlons = Law, Shadows = Chaos? Those new to Michael Moorcock’s books, and new to Babylon 5 mistake Chaos = Bad and Law = Good. But as we learn through both, that nothing could be further from the truth. 😮
yes mate!
This is very well done! Thank you!
Green or purple? Those Drazi coming down the corridor towards you want to know...
Nerd Cookies! Love your stuff!
My favourite tv series!
Great work
"The Babylon Project was our last, best hope for peace. It failed. But in the year of the Shadow War, it became something greater: our last, best hope...for victory. The year 2260. The place, Babylon 5." -- Susan Ivanova
I never noticed how much Babylon 5 resembles a babel fish before😮
The bridge was always problematic gravity wise as it was in the center.
Babylon 5 and DS 9 never grew up on me.
I thought Babylon 5 was 10 light-years from Earth. Unless you're referring to an Epsilon system that's different from the one I'm thinking of.
Very cool. Never saw the show.
What are your thoughts on space above & beyond from 1995?
The history of the stations before B5 sound like the joke from Monty Python and the holy grail about the tower, the first one fell over the second one also fell over so did the third one but the fourth that one well it fell over caught fire and burned to the ground but the fifth one the fifth one still stands.
Oh this is going to be good :)
Thank you!!!!!!
*I ❤️ BABYLON 5*
So one thing dosnt really sit right with me and never really has vorlon empire as a race they don’t really seem like they would have an Empire like structure as you know been an Empire would mean their is one overall ruler that is seen as a god king, dose that form of government sound like it fits the Vorlons? So to me I think they were asked about their form of government and they just picked one at random from a list given to them as none of the forms fitted or it didn’t matter.
If I had to pick what form of government I thing the vorlons May used ied probably go with something like Noocracy aka rule by the wise.
*GREEN!*
Go into the lore about Sigma 957.
The Vorlon...
But where do they serve swedish meatballs?
Narn, looks like.
I hope they dont reboot this but instead show us the telepath war
i hope for a redo ala CBS Star Trek, where they replace all the CGI but keep all the awesome charcters
What they did with telekinetics in B5 just scares me if it ever becomes reality. Nuts to moving gigantic things, but rather focus on very very small things. Like heart valves or major blood vessels.
Omg omg omg..
Got some mid-tier AI right there.
tried to watch b5 a few times, can never get more then a couple episodes in before i lose interest, animations are just bad and the acting is so cringe, with how popular it is, the show has to pick up at some point, my question is how long do i have to put up with terrible cringe meh acting before this show gets good like everyone claims?
not the one.
not agreeing with you on babylon 5 being "the last", best hope.
i've seen it all but i could never get into it really, it's stuffy and corny, i dunno, i prefer ds9. the new series is bound to be discovery levels of awful.
You are probably entirely correct.