Windows Powershell vs Command Prompt: What's The Difference Anyway?

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  • @ThioJoe
    @ThioJoe  3 года назад +260

    Here's the link to the script I made for those wondering: github.com/ThioJoe/youtube-dl-easy

    • @Zanaso12
      @Zanaso12 3 года назад +5

      You just have to hit tab after you've typed in the first 3 letters of the file/folder/cmdlet name...also you could convert your Powershell script into a Function and add it to your PSProfile (type "notepad $PROFILE" and save the resulting file to edit later). Then you can run the function with any name you want without navigating to the directory.

    • @serpent77
      @serpent77 3 года назад +10

      The reason why PS doesn't run an executable, even if you're in the directory for it is a safety feature that linux has had for many years. It prevents someone from dropping a malicious exe in the directory with the same name as a common command (like "ls" or "dir") that runs automatically instead of the built in command to do fun things like installing rootkits.

    • @salty_lemon390
      @salty_lemon390 3 года назад +2

      Can I have a free pc I’m broke

    • @michael9651
      @michael9651 3 года назад +6

      Errors are red, my screen is blue, I think deleted system 32

    • @cristieq05
      @cristieq05 3 года назад +2

      🤔...was actually how I was looking at your video lmao!!!

  • @latt.qcd9221
    @latt.qcd9221 3 года назад +722

    CMD Prompt: "Who are you?"
    Powershell: "I'm you, but bluer."

    • @bultvidxxxix9973
      @bultvidxxxix9973 3 года назад +39

      CMD Prompt: *color 1F*
      Powershell: "..."

    • @redjoker07
      @redjoker07 3 года назад +7

      ...but more advanced

    • @abrahamalaniz3468
      @abrahamalaniz3468 3 года назад +8

      Cmd is actually really dangerous due to it able to communicate directly with the OS

    • @Matt-wu1nu
      @Matt-wu1nu 3 года назад

      @@bultvidxxxix9973 PowerShell : But im new version of you...

    • @juango500
      @juango500 3 года назад +4

      QBASIC: Who are you?
      Microsoft Disk Operating System: I'm you, but better.
      Microsoft Disk Operating System: Who are you?
      CMD Prompt: I'm you, but better.

  • @Falaxuper
    @Falaxuper 3 года назад +1483

    I can't wrap my mind around how this guy went from telling people to pickle their iPhones in hand sanitizer for free mobile data to making actually informative, well-structured videos

    • @thepoliticalstartrek
      @thepoliticalstartrek 3 года назад +36

      I do miss those videos. It is hard to continue my commwnt themes I use to do. It was I put Maximum Overdrive into a thing and now it is trying to kill me.

    • @AdrianHoffsten
      @AdrianHoffsten 3 года назад +49

      I still don't trust him 😬

    • @impmadness
      @impmadness 3 года назад +23

      He just got tired I guess, it was a different time, more people fell for that and he needed the views lol. It missed the joke if everyone knew it was fake

    • @xbotscythe
      @xbotscythe 3 года назад +5

      @@impmadness yeah plus with people not falling for it much anymore he was able to take advantage of that and move his second channel style videos to this one

    • @hunzhurte
      @hunzhurte 2 года назад +7

      Well he actually worked on coding many infamous Windows 10 features so it makes sense that he understands it so well.

  • @TheCreeperyXYZ
    @TheCreeperyXYZ 3 года назад +535

    The house and background looks lit

    • @Freakazoid12345
      @Freakazoid12345 3 года назад +17

      Because everything is white?

    • @AyrisX86
      @AyrisX86 3 года назад +5

      @@Freakazoid12345 the cushions are not white so whoops

    • @uwu-zl6tq
      @uwu-zl6tq 3 года назад

      you look lit today! :D

    • @Freakazoid12345
      @Freakazoid12345 3 года назад +1

      @@AyrisX86 Yes, I'm obviously not talking about the things that don't apply.

    • @AyrisX86
      @AyrisX86 3 года назад +3

      @@Freakazoid12345 bruh

  • @shreevardhanshenoy
    @shreevardhanshenoy 3 года назад +421

    For those in a hurry
    Powershell = blue command prompt with yellow font

    • @Brahvim
      @Brahvim 3 года назад +14

      *and more stuff to do, LOL!

    • @callsigndap
      @callsigndap 3 года назад +18

      With Linux terminal commands

    • @derrick_martin_g.
      @derrick_martin_g. 3 года назад +1

      Powershell can be customized. Right-click top of window> select properties and get crazy...kinda.

    • @laurinneff4304
      @laurinneff4304 3 года назад +6

      @@derrick_martin_g. can be done with everything that uses conhost.exe to display, so you can do it in cmd and most cli programs too

    • @Dhruvinator
      @Dhruvinator 3 года назад

      l m a o

  • @gosnooky
    @gosnooky 3 года назад +314

    The .​/ is from Linux - and must be specified to execute within the current directory as opposed to an executable in $PATH. This is to help avoid name collisions.

    • @loc4725
      @loc4725 3 года назад +27

      And for security reasons.

    • @scayzee8174
      @scayzee8174 3 года назад +24

      Same thing for the "-eq" instead of "==" for equality test, look like its imported from bash, because behind the scene, the if statement is kinda a program

    • @megafan1533
      @megafan1533 3 года назад +5

      yeah ./ is for linux

    • @jamesbannon1057
      @jamesbannon1057 3 года назад +25

      @@loc4725 Yep. Having the current working directory in PATH is a security no-no.
      I like how he made a big deal of pipes. People of a certain age, i.e. old gits like me, know that pipes have been around since the year dot, as has redirection. What is more, the concepts are much older than linux (a good thirty years at least). Really, Powershell is just the Bourne shell, albeit implemented slightly differently.

    • @becon8575
      @becon8575 2 года назад

      You are a chad

  • @RobertGrimm
    @RobertGrimm 3 года назад +198

    The things you find weird in Powershell are standard ways of doing things from Unix that have been around forever. Using -eq in an if statement is useful because you can use other things in place of it to do other tests. Instead of checking to see if a string or numeric value is equal to something else, you could test something like whether a file exists or what kind of file something is. That's strange for other kinds of languages but it makes good sense in a shell scripting language.
    As for having to specify the local directory with .\ to run a program in the current directory, that's a security feature that has also been around forever in Unix. Imagine you're sitting in your home directory and you want to run something like ping. The standard Windows version is in your $PATH but your current location isn't. Maybe something malicious put a bad version of ping in your home directory. You want the real one, not the dangerous one, so running things in the local directory is blocked unless directly specified and the system looks to the $PATH to find it.

    • @noxagonal
      @noxagonal Год назад +6

      I think there could also be an alias for "==" which would translate to "-eq". You wouldn't lose functionality but could potentially make the script more clear. I think I'll stick with Python for scripts though.
      I agree on your second point though, even if I found it a little annoying at first.

    • @user-ir6xh2mx9d
      @user-ir6xh2mx9d Год назад +5

      @@noxagonal OMG I can't believe we thought the same thing. I was also thinking of "==" for "-eq"
      One work around for this that I can think of is espanso.

    • @ptorq
      @ptorq 6 месяцев назад

      Not running executables in the current directory by default is probably also a Unixism: if you default to running executables/scripts in the current directory, a malicious actor could put an executable named "ls" in a directory and if root were to go into that directory and try to get a listing of the files, they'd run that ls program with root privileges. For non-root users it's less of a problem but it would still be possible to have it, say, delete all the files in the user's home directory. Excluding the current directory from the path means that you have to specifically say "yes, I want to run the program in THIS directory", making it safer.

    • @tompycz2225
      @tompycz2225 6 месяцев назад

      @@noxagonal there is == in bash, it just has different functionality. It's string equivalency.

    • @noxagonal
      @noxagonal 6 месяцев назад

      @@tompycz2225 Right, that just makes it even more confusing. XD
      Anyways, old convo. I'll stick with python because familiarity and for cross platform compatibility.

  • @smft9147
    @smft9147 3 года назад +159

    You can't even watch star wars in powershell :/

    • @lavleshdubey3338
      @lavleshdubey3338 3 года назад +8

      But you can see in the cmd 😎

    • @trogdorstrngbd
      @trogdorstrngbd 3 года назад +3

      It still works in PowerShell.

    • @smft9147
      @smft9147 3 года назад +5

      @@trogdorstrngbd it's better in cmd powershell is for noobs

    • @lavleshdubey3338
      @lavleshdubey3338 3 года назад +5

      @@smft9147 well, I don't think so because thiojoe said that powershell is more advanced then cmd.

    • @smft9147
      @smft9147 3 года назад +3

      @@lavleshdubey3338 it is only real ones use cmd powershell is for noobs lmao

  • @Tarucz
    @Tarucz 3 года назад +437

    Microsoft: We are removing command prompt.
    People in 2025: Only the OG remember command prompt.

    • @redd_cat
      @redd_cat 3 года назад +75

      They literally can't do that. They would break hundreds of thousands of devices, including critical equipment in hospitals and probably even oil rigs.

    • @jase_allen
      @jase_allen 3 года назад +29

      Some of us still remember the DOS prompt.

    • @Eshaal74
      @Eshaal74 3 года назад

      @@szymex8341 r/wooosh

    • @tallgeese1
      @tallgeese1 3 года назад +14

      You'd be surprised how dependant many enterprises, SMBs, and some older CNC machines software are on the old conhost.exe and cmd.exe.
      Had Microsoft decided to fully remove them and replace it with PowerShell, it would be disastrous to services dependent on the 30yr+ old conhost and cmd.

    • @MESYETI
      @MESYETI 3 года назад +1

      wine cmd

  • @Caracazz2
    @Caracazz2 3 года назад +64

    I'm learning english and this is the only channel I can understand everything without subtitles. You have a good diction.

    • @Naids
      @Naids 3 года назад +4

      English isn’t my native language as well and I totally agree with you☝️

    • @blackghost6973
      @blackghost6973 3 года назад +4

      I'm also not a native speaker and I find Thio's accent very understandable, although he speaks a little bit too fast 😅

    • @twb0109
      @twb0109 3 года назад

      If you're also into Linux I highly recommend DistroTube and OldTechBloke, they speak very clearly

    • @iyeetsecurity922
      @iyeetsecurity922 2 года назад

      I've been bouncing on my boys diction for hours to this.

  • @neoqueto
    @neoqueto 3 года назад +148

    Big brain mode:
    PS C:\Users\User> cmd

    • @neoqueto
      @neoqueto 3 года назад +4

      @TheThunderGuyS more like Linux + Windows

    • @saturniunyttech679
      @saturniunyttech679 3 года назад +5

      @TheThunderGuyS according to Saturniun YT, Windows > macOS > Linux

    • @micr0116
      @micr0116 3 года назад +6

      @@saturniunyttech679 TempleOS > Windows > macOS = Linux

    • @saturniunyttech679
      @saturniunyttech679 3 года назад

      @TheThunderGuyS it's my name dude, or should I say darude

    • @justsomerandompersononthei2595
      @justsomerandompersononthei2595 3 года назад +1

      Saturniun YT Me:
      Linux > MacOS > Windows

  • @zsin128
    @zsin128 3 года назад +225

    easy: one looks cool,and can change theme without activining windows.
    other one looks anicent but its faster
    /s

    • @zsin128
      @zsin128 3 года назад +1

      @NitroNite72 well I was locking at "windows central" website, talking about how to make light and dark theme switch during different periods. That commend (that's supposed to be timed) changes theme on powershell even when windows isn't activated

    • @ChrisTian-sd5yq
      @ChrisTian-sd5yq 3 года назад +2

      @@zsin128 So you locked it?

    • @thepyro7845
      @thepyro7845 3 года назад +1

      Sorry if i sound like a dick by saying this, but what does /s mean exactly?

    • @RotatingBuffalo
      @RotatingBuffalo 3 года назад +2

      @@thepyro7845 /s is used to signal the end of a use of sarcasm. it comes from HTML, where you start a body of text with and end it with , where "something-here" would really be something more descriptive, like the size the text should be, if it's a link, etc.

    • @thepyro7845
      @thepyro7845 3 года назад

      @@RotatingBuffalo ok thanks

  • @tooru
    @tooru 3 года назад +44

    1. There's nothing wrong at all with nested if-s in Batch:
    if 1 == 1 (
    if 2 == 2 (
    echo yas
    ) else (
    echo no
    )
    )
    2. You have to launch programs with *./* because otherwise it's a security vulnerability. Imagine you download some archive with many many files, you extract it and _cd_ into it. Then you run _dir_ but this archive already comes with its own dir.exe, which in turn could be malicious, so that's why current directory is not automatically added to your PATH.

    • @mffmart
      @mffmart 3 года назад +1

      I commented on the dot-slash notation and didn't even consider this. It is a very valid point, good one!

    • @black_platypus
      @black_platypus 7 месяцев назад +2

      I had the same thought. IIRC, a common problem with nested conditionals/loops in CMD is that all levels get evaluated at once, breaking what would otherwise be an intuitive experience. If you need to refer to something that changed in the meantime between the outer and the inner scope, you can use _setlocal enabledelayedexpansion_ to defer expansion/evaluation to when the program flow gets there, not to when the outer scope gets interpreted

  • @MichaelStepniewski
    @MichaelStepniewski 3 года назад +93

    Command prompt also supports pipes. It just does text instead of objects which powershell does like you mentioned in the video. Just wanted to share that you can use piped output far before powershell ever existed.

    • @tertia0011
      @tertia0011 2 года назад +15

      Yeh, Powershell users - put that in your pipe & smoke it.

    • @darrennew8211
      @darrennew8211 Год назад +1

      You can also set variables, branch and loop, etc. It's just rather uglier. :-)

    • @tazguy371
      @tazguy371 Год назад

      Please give me an example of piping the output of one command to another, and then piping that output to a third in cmd.exe.

    • @thorbjrnhellehaven5766
      @thorbjrnhellehaven5766 Год назад +1

      The piping command I used the most, is probably |more
      Pipes screen output through more, to display one by one screen
      Useful when your command/program just print to screen, and has no option to stop for every full screen.
      Can't think of another piping command I have used and remember specifically.
      I know I have used some, but not enough to remember any of them.
      The closest thing, would be redirect output to printer { > prn }, or to text-file

    • @wolfgangeigner989
      @wolfgangeigner989 6 месяцев назад

      @@tazguy371 dir|sort|more
      it's pretty useless to sort the current directory by day of month but it works

  • @SYS_Alberto
    @SYS_Alberto 3 года назад +244

    Command Prompt: black
    Powershell:
    I'm blue
    Da ba dee da ba di
    Da ba dee da ba di

    • @SYS_Alberto
      @SYS_Alberto 3 года назад +24

      I use powershell for chocolatey.

    • @ThioJoe
      @ThioJoe  3 года назад +33

      Alberto C. Routwell stop right there

    • @ysnsmth
      @ysnsmth 3 года назад +1

      @@ThioJoe bruh

    • @graceperez9672
      @graceperez9672 3 года назад +1

      ThioJoe why? Do you not like the song?

    • @alwinvillero4404
      @alwinvillero4404 3 года назад +1

      *dat esh tee tee pee es colon slesh*

  • @arijitdas7526
    @arijitdas7526 3 года назад +80

    How I use powershell...
    "Start cmd"

    • @j.w.techchannel
      @j.w.techchannel 3 года назад +6

      I've never actually used PowerShell before..
      (No one cares)

    • @jaden8923
      @jaden8923 3 года назад

      I only use powershell for ps1 scripts and stuff like that

    • @joshualepdung
      @joshualepdung 3 года назад

      😂

    • @NazmusLabs
      @NazmusLabs 3 года назад

      @Lucas Zhu Windows Terminal doesn’t have powershell or cmd. It’s a terminal application that can run many CLI shells. It runs the same powershell.exe and cmd.exe from the System32 folder as the regular “cmd window”. In fact, the “old command prompt” isn’t a black terminal Window. When you launch “old” CMD, Windows launches the a built-in terminal app called “Windows Console Host” (conhost.exe), and then cmd.exe (the same one that the new Windows terminal uses) launches inside conhost.exe. When you launch “old” powershell, it, too, runs conhost.exe sets background color to blue and then launches PowerShell.exe inside conhost.exe
      Windows terminal is a replacement conhost.exe. The actual cmd.exe is the same old one and ISN’T open source.
      Powershell is open source

  • @tallgeese1
    @tallgeese1 3 года назад +51

    The "./" token is a PowerShell security feature that insures the intended application or script is run from the current directory and not an application of the same name in the system or user path that could be potential malware or incompatible application version that may be on a system.
    Not stupid.

    • @NoOne-sy5fg
      @NoOne-sy5fg 2 года назад +1

      It's not an original "feature". It was copied from unix

  • @enzoys
    @enzoys 2 года назад +7

    I'm always amazed by how much more information I actually get from your videos than I could ever expect, good job!

  • @tanc_
    @tanc_ 3 года назад +35

    "you have to use -eq which is stupid"
    Me after 3 years of ksh 👀

  • @f1ncc246
    @f1ncc246 3 года назад +54

    7:15 cd is not the cmd command for bash's ls, dir is

    • @ThioJoe
      @ThioJoe  3 года назад +20

      Sathya yea I mis-spoke

    • @Preinstallable
      @Preinstallable 3 года назад +2

      In powershell cd is Set-Location
      Dir is Get-ChildItem

    • @megafan1533
      @megafan1533 3 года назад

      ls is for linux

    • @xXJ4FARGAMERXx
      @xXJ4FARGAMERXx 3 года назад

      This comment needs more punctuation

  • @patrickflannigan8939
    @patrickflannigan8939 2 года назад +10

    Great informative video. I'm a systems administrator and I got my most recent job thanks to powershell. During my interview I displayed how I had automated the deployment and configuration of virtual machines to automatically spin up game servers all in powershell and python. Without powershell I wouldn't have the decent lifestyle I have today. This video is a great primer on the basic concepts of powershell, it was really well done. You're clearly knowledgeable about what you're talking about and well researched. Keep up the great work.

  • @bernardonegri5416
    @bernardonegri5416 3 года назад +73

    I used to not like Powershell's font but then Windows Terminal came out.

    • @Stridsvagn69420
      @Stridsvagn69420 3 года назад +6

      same, but I also didn't like the blue background

    • @octavylon9008
      @octavylon9008 3 года назад +1

      i like terminals font, anyways im pretty sure theyll add an option to chanhe it in a future update

    • @derrick_martin_g.
      @derrick_martin_g. 3 года назад +4

      @@octavylon9008 Powershell can be customized. Right-click top of window> select properties and get crazy...kinda.

    • @derrick_martin_g.
      @derrick_martin_g. 3 года назад +1

      @@Stridsvagn69420 Powershell can be customized. Right-click top of window> select properties and get crazy...kinda.

    • @V-for-Vendetta01
      @V-for-Vendetta01 3 года назад +1

      @@Stridsvagn69420 powershell is customisable tho

  • @RuxUnderscore
    @RuxUnderscore 2 года назад +9

    To add to this video for those that are more technical. A lot of the syntax and aliases used by PowerShell were created to provide less of a learning curve for those of us more attuned to bash scripting/Linux terminals. If you look at a PowerShell script compared to a more advanced bash script you can see similarities other than the PowerShell-only commands. (echo instead of Write-Host and so on). With this knowledge, someone who is adept with either scripting language can fill in the blanks and learn the other with relative ease.

  • @alwinvillero4404
    @alwinvillero4404 3 года назад +82

    how to hack the government:
    1. Open cmd
    2. color 0a

  • @MrNaporowski
    @MrNaporowski 3 года назад +32

    Those oddities in PowerShell you mentioned (like writing -eq instead of =) aren't really oddities because as it turns out this is how you write in bash (the most popular Linux command shell) as well. However, in bash you can also use a legacy method with = instead of -eq, for example, but the syntax is a little different.
    The same is the case with adding ./ before running a script.

    • @hwstar9416
      @hwstar9416 6 месяцев назад

      them being on linux doesn't make them good. Weird way to think

    • @Macheako
      @Macheako 13 дней назад

      I’m sorry but why don’t they just alias Write-Host to something more familiar, oh, idk, maybe like the word “echo” 😂❤

  • @PearComputingDevices
    @PearComputingDevices 3 года назад +9

    This reminds me a lot of the differences between OS/2 shell and command shell in OS/2. Basically you can do just about anything you would do in command shell in OS/2 shell but a whole lot more. OS/2 was quite powerful in its day.

  • @theadhdunicyclist
    @theadhdunicyclist 3 года назад

    Hey, really great video! I love this layout of the video and the laid back environment fits your videos perfectly. Nice job!

  • @junedkhan4643
    @junedkhan4643 3 года назад +2

    i love how you talked about this on your couch.

  • @VivekYadav-ds8oz
    @VivekYadav-ds8oz 3 года назад +31

    The reason for the "./program.exe" is to make it more similar to Linux syntax. In Linux, without the ./, the program is assumed to be in the /bin directory, so you need to explicitly state that your program is in the current folder. This is the same case in PowerShell.

    • @tazguy371
      @tazguy371 Год назад +2

      The reason this was done in PowerShell was so that someone could not write a script (malicious or otherwise) with the same name as a PowerShell cmdlet, advanced function or alias (e.g. dir), and have the script run instead of the cmdlet, function or alias.

    • @Lightn0x
      @Lightn0x 6 месяцев назад

      The reason is not to to be similar to linux, it's to combat a security threat. It just so happens that Linux also faces the same threat, so both addressed it in the same way. Similarity to linux is an effect, not the cause.

  • @ForceGamerrr
    @ForceGamerrr 3 года назад +7

    The reason you have to type the " ./ ", is because by default, Powershell (and Bash + other shells) will look for commands in a commands folder, like where that PING.EXE was, for example. So you have to specify that you want to execute the command that is in your working directory.

    • @user-ko2rb2ky1z
      @user-ko2rb2ky1z 3 года назад

      that makes alot of sense actualy

    • @sethadkins546
      @sethadkins546 3 года назад +1

      Also prevents security issues in case you install some malware, and when you go to the directory where it's installed and you type in "dir" or "ls" it would run "dir.exe" (malware) or "ls.exe" (also malware).

  • @gavincstewart
    @gavincstewart 3 года назад

    Excellent video. I've been wanting a closer look at these two for a while, and you did a great job explaining the difference. I will start using PowerShell from now on.

  • @Kris_M
    @Kris_M 3 года назад +12

    10:26 Of course you can use nested IF statements in batch files. Also ELSE and ELSE IF.

    • @igorthelight
      @igorthelight 3 года назад +2

      So as pipes :-)

    • @Avighna
      @Avighna 3 года назад +1

      r/foundthecmdfans

  • @anthaguz
    @anthaguz 3 года назад +36

    This is just a 13 minute video... I can't believe that in only 13 minutes you were able to create the best video I have ever seen to explain Powershell basics to any of my peers in such a short time, this is honestly just amazing!

  • @workethicrecords5901
    @workethicrecords5901 3 года назад +3

    My guess as to what the -eq thing is about, is that it looks like all variables in powershell are objects, since you don't have to declare types. In object oriented languages, you have to use a separate command for finding out equivocation, because the raw value for objects is their location in memory, not their contents.

  • @sophisticatedserpent1512
    @sophisticatedserpent1512 3 года назад +1

    Wtf was that intro!
    Absolutely Genius! The way that you stylishly stuck your head out from behind the couch while unemotionally saying "Windows" with no context. Amazing.

  • @NealKlein
    @NealKlein 3 года назад +1

    I really like this guy's presentation. Not too flashy, and easy to follow.

  • @1tsMichael
    @1tsMichael 3 года назад +7

    Teacher: opening another tab will close the main tab
    Me with powershell doing math: i can’t hear you

  • @smft9147
    @smft9147 3 года назад +142

    I use Cortana for all my windows commands

    • @quintessence2183
      @quintessence2183 3 года назад +11

      Microsoft should make a robot with Cortana built in. Make it thicc.

    • @cscscscss
      @cscscscss 3 года назад +34

      "Hey Cortana, format my C drive"

    • @quintessence2183
      @quintessence2183 3 года назад +16

      @@cscscscss Hey Cortana, I have a problem with my D drive.

    • @k4tbo116
      @k4tbo116 3 года назад +1

      Progamermovelol.

    • @lavleshdubey3338
      @lavleshdubey3338 3 года назад +1

      @@cscscscss 😂😂😂

  • @yosefgebrewold2005
    @yosefgebrewold2005 Год назад

    More than five years I have struggled a lot to fix my PC, even I lost some videos and a lot of files I had saved. I tried some maintenance but I got no solution even my window installation was corrupted and I have also lost two laptops b/c of these previously but now b/c of your support and other similar tutorials I have learned how to fix all the problems and my PC is clean and faster than I expected. Thank you for all your support and good advice's. GBU!

  • @genjimccorkle5518
    @genjimccorkle5518 2 месяца назад

    Learning powershell right now for work and this video is an absolute gem.

  • @mjdxp5688
    @mjdxp5688 3 года назад +82

    It feels weird that Windows 10 still has an MS-DOS shell decades after MS-DOS was released, honestly PowerShell should be the main, default command shell, while the MS-DOS shell should be an optional install, however backwards compatibility and all that...

    • @smft9147
      @smft9147 3 года назад +7

      Well powershell is default but you can change it in settings which I recommend everyone do cuz powershell low-key ass lmao

    • @ethimself5064
      @ethimself5064 3 года назад +3

      Reminds me of my first PC back in the day. I refused to buy a computer using only DOS commands, I finally came across a DOS Shell and bingo - sold

    • @jaden8923
      @jaden8923 3 года назад

      Powershell is default

    • @KeithBoehler
      @KeithBoehler 3 года назад +15

      @@smft9147 The real big brain move is to enable WSL and the use bash/csh/zsh/fish

    • @xheralt
      @xheralt 3 года назад +10

      The powershell is useless to me because I don't know what do do with it. Command prompt, I know how to work. My first action if PS opens? PS> cmd
      I don't need to do fancy ass scripting, I just need to execute a non-gui executable, like ffmpeg!

  • @numbased
    @numbased 3 года назад +61

    i really like yo house :D

  • @physnatics7959
    @physnatics7959 2 года назад

    This is awesome. I've been wondering about the difference between these two terminals for a long time. Thanks for the clear and easy to follow explanation!

    • @minastaros
      @minastaros 6 месяцев назад

      Don't confuse "terminal" with "shell". The terminal is the program that has a window, accepts key strokes and displays characters. The shell is the program that runs and _processes_ input, reads files, does stuff, and generates output (which is then displayed by the -> terminal). You can run powershell in the old cmd terminal (and vice versa). Turns out, the standard powershell terminal is just the old one but blue. So better install the new "Windows Terminal" which has tabs, more configurability, and a faster output engine.

  • @jenn8220
    @jenn8220 2 года назад

    Super helpful explanation on objects!!! Love the analogy. Thanks for the great video!

  • @DTGplays
    @DTGplays 3 года назад +5

    Finally someone making comparison videos the right way. Great work man!

  • @johngeverett
    @johngeverett 3 года назад +19

    Good introduction. THANKS!
    BTW - MSDOS commands will pipe output and input.

    • @mervstar
      @mervstar 3 года назад +3

      I do all sorts of piping with > | < in CMD. Always have....always will.....

    • @sethadkins546
      @sethadkins546 3 года назад +2

      @@abdulelahfallatah > writes the output to something. | is for piping. For example, echo 1 > C:\example.txt would write 1 to example.txt

    • @Preinstallable
      @Preinstallable 3 года назад

      | pipe
      >make file from output
      >>append output to file

    • @Demonslay335
      @Demonslay335 3 года назад

      His point is how PS is better (more elegant) about it. For example, say you want to iterate all files in a folder and run a command on each one. In batch, you have to do some goofy tokenizing and parsing out of the dir command, because it just spits out a blob of text, where parts of it are not related to what you want (e.g. file size and attributes). PowerShell can just pipe a cmdlet version to a simple loop that understands the output without you having to "parse" it yourself.

  • @dimitrioskastis3843
    @dimitrioskastis3843 2 года назад

    I like it. It clear a question I had for a long time in a simple language . Thank you.

  • @ethimself5064
    @ethimself5064 3 года назад +1

    I drove my old XP into the ground to see how long it would last online after support stopped - over 2 yrs. I have had 10 now for 2 yrs and caught on well due to the fact that I was spending 25 hrs/week maintaining XP for about 8 months. I have been learning a lot about the complexity of 10 and it does impress me all in all. Thanks for the online help. 👍👍

  • @billdimz
    @billdimz 3 года назад +4

    Pipes can also be used in Command Prompt.

    • @o0Donuts0o
      @o0Donuts0o 3 года назад

      Yes you can but powershells pipe let's you manipulate the pipeline based on the members coming down the pipeline. Run a gci | gm and look at the members of a file. You can use any combination of the members to manipulate the output

  • @abdullahzayed7866
    @abdullahzayed7866 3 года назад +11

    Awesome sofa you got there

    • @ThioJoe
      @ThioJoe  3 года назад +5

      It's an ikea

    • @QkeleQ10
      @QkeleQ10 3 года назад

      @@ThioJoe but it's not blue with yellow! Are you sure?

    • @Kadencabs
      @Kadencabs 3 года назад

      @@QkeleQ10 like powershell!!!

  • @RigelVision
    @RigelVision 10 месяцев назад +2

    The new windows terminal with oh-my-posh looks awesome 👍🏻

  • @doriansego6809
    @doriansego6809 2 года назад

    This was an excellent explanation, thank you sir! Subbed!

  • @markusTegelane
    @markusTegelane 3 года назад +17

    I personally use command prompt, because it launches much faster and I am more familiar with it (first OS for me was XP, where there was no Power Shell). Also command prompt DOES support variables within command window using the SET command (e.g. set /a i=4+7), but it only supports 2 data types (strings and integers). And you CAN use nested if statements, but it requires to enable delayed expansion with variables called with !variablename! instead of %variablename% and it is quite messy anyway requiring you to group commands with parenthesis.
    Example:
    @echo off
    setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
    set /p value=Enter first value:
    set /p subvalue=Enter second value:
    if !value! == 42 (
    if !subvalue! == 777 (
    echo Lucky life
    ) else (
    echo Unlucky life
    )
    ) else (
    echo No life
    )
    endlocal
    exit /b
    Command prompt also does use some external commands (programs in System32 as you said, e.g. for.exe, ping.exe, etc.).

    • @unknownaccount4783
      @unknownaccount4783 3 года назад +2

      Else if is possible:
      if 1==42 (
      echo ok
      ) else if 1==1 (
      echo ok
      )

    • @Kris_M
      @Kris_M 3 года назад +1

      @Markus that example doesn't need enabledelayedexpansion.

    • @markusTegelane
      @markusTegelane 3 года назад

      @@unknownaccount4783 oh, didn't realize that

    • @markusTegelane
      @markusTegelane 3 года назад

      @@Kris_M yes, but I put it there if anyone wanted to define variables inside the if statement

    • @markusTegelane
      @markusTegelane 3 года назад

      @@abdulelahfallatah Exits from a function/batch file without closing command prompt. Basically if the batch file is run from a command prompt window, it returns to command prompt unlike just "exit"

  • @zachh6868
    @zachh6868 3 года назад +14

    I feel real Vsauce with these setups. I like it.

  • @hassanhijazi4757
    @hassanhijazi4757 9 месяцев назад

    informative and funny! I like the ambiance here. Thank you!

  • @JimHenderson19
    @JimHenderson19 Год назад

    Wow! 13 minutes and you explained all this so well even I understood some of it ...sort of. Thanks!

  • @Stevesteacher
    @Stevesteacher 3 года назад +56

    Theo-kun... You're underestimating CMD, you're denying a lot of things it can actually do (such as creating variables and using nested if statements)
    But I enjoyed the video, thanks for the information :D

    • @Digital-Dan
      @Digital-Dan 3 года назад +3

      Agreed. Complete systems have been written in the Unix/Linix shells, and cmd isn't too far behind, if any. Pretty clumsy, but you get used to it.

    • @PaulJohnsonM
      @PaulJohnsonM 3 года назад +2

      And you can redirect output into other programs. Remember "type file.txt | more"?

    • @sethadkins546
      @sethadkins546 3 года назад

      @@abdulelahfallatah %[variable]% I'm pretty sure is just environment variables.

    • @sethadkins546
      @sethadkins546 3 года назад

      @@PaulJohnsonM Exactly, pipelines are even a thing in bash/zsh as well, but i think PS does it slightly differently.

  • @witchilich
    @witchilich 3 года назад +8

    12:06 This is false. You have to put youtube-dl in path and then you can run youtube-dl or any other command line tool. Or you can use a package manager like Scoop to install youtube-dl.

    • @cladiotto
      @cladiotto 3 года назад +1

      "for some dumb reason" lol

  • @n1c98
    @n1c98 2 года назад

    Dude, you are awesome. This was a great video. You explain things really well. Glad you kept it super rudimentary here. Computers are a pretty cool hobby, time to time

  • @saivarsha
    @saivarsha 3 года назад +2

    actually learnt powershell for this video. respect

  • @bspringer
    @bspringer 3 года назад +7

    Where can we get that RUclips DL script?

  • @trogdorstrngbd
    @trogdorstrngbd 3 года назад +8

    The last line of his PowerShell script calls cmd. XD

  • @-_-sneezy
    @-_-sneezy 8 месяцев назад

    you're really good at explaining. thank you

  • @codesfromsky9129
    @codesfromsky9129 2 года назад

    Thank u for this great info joe

  • @JadieI
    @JadieI 3 года назад +6

    Lol I feel so old having my CMD pinned on my task bar.

  • @vasilis23456
    @vasilis23456 3 года назад +7

    Piping works in cmd too btw. Also you can just type powershell in the command prompt to get it.

  • @__Nero__
    @__Nero__ 3 года назад

    Thanks, learnt a lot. I'm not likely to switch over to Powershell for the basics that I need but great to know about for the future.

  • @HeenaPatel253
    @HeenaPatel253 3 года назад

    I had this question for my whole life thanks for making a vid on this

  • @justsomerandompersononthei2595
    @justsomerandompersononthei2595 3 года назад +15

    Cmd: Basically DOS in Windows NT
    Powershell: If DOS and BASH had a baby.

    • @duckmeat4674
      @duckmeat4674 3 года назад +4

      And it came out with an extra chromosome

    • @prdx8543
      @prdx8543 3 года назад +2

      No... not even bash.. still not at linux level. It's still far away

    • @michaelcoll433
      @michaelcoll433 3 года назад

      That baby would simply be bash and we already have it.

  • @XzaroX
    @XzaroX 3 года назад +4

    7:23 CMD also has pipes... And you can use powershell commands in cmd, by invoking powershell, the same way you would a ping.exe or whatever.
    Also I don't know why people call GOTO commands weird. They are incredibly easy to understand... Like an adventure book of coding. If someone is just starting out I would argue that GOTO is a lot easier to underatand than a bunch of function commands in powershell.
    Lastly, cmd doesn't have that annoying execution policy enabled by default, so IMO wrapping your powershell scripts into .cmd or .bat is the best way to go lol.

  • @gazeros69
    @gazeros69 2 года назад

    Exactly the video I needed!

  • @alyahyai
    @alyahyai 2 года назад

    This answered my question, thank you

  • @avi12
    @avi12 3 года назад +8

    10:14 Not accurate enough
    Command Prompt can run .bat and .cmd
    PowerShell can run .bat , .cmd and .ps1

  • @billkammermeier
    @billkammermeier 3 года назад +3

    command prompt has had pipes since before Windows was even invented. this feature has probably existed since MS-DOS 1.0

  • @diskeed
    @diskeed 3 года назад

    Thx much for this -- for me a very useful intro to the Powershell (and why I might have to expand my horizons beyond the trusty ole DOS prompt)

  • @josephglover4546
    @josephglover4546 Год назад

    Thanks. The video was inspiring!

  • @konnilol4
    @konnilol4 3 года назад +3

    CMD? - Nah...
    Power shell? - WHY?!
    bash? - Yeah... :D

  • @marna_li
    @marna_li 3 года назад +5

    Technically, PowerShell is a .NET language, like C#, so all "objects" are .NET objects, and you can therefore use .NET objects directly in scripts.
    And that is also how PowerShell is cross-platform nowadays 🙂

    • @MrDgwphotos
      @MrDgwphotos 7 месяцев назад +1

      You can even write Powershell scripts that could be mistaken for C# if you wanted to.

  • @Samlol23_drrich
    @Samlol23_drrich 3 года назад

    You've come a long way from the kid making spoof how to videos all those years ago. Didnt think you would be able to transition to a real channel, but kudos to you. You did it, and well. Great video

  • @SivaranjanGoswami
    @SivaranjanGoswami 3 года назад

    Awesome... Very well explained

  • @Furdox
    @Furdox 2 года назад +3

    difference : cmd is blocked by the school while powershell is not

  • @DestinedByte
    @DestinedByte 3 года назад +5

    since powershell can run on windows and linux the ./ is b/c of the way files are run in linux

    • @mffmart
      @mffmart 3 года назад +1

      This makes a lot of sense.

    • @tooru
      @tooru 3 года назад

      that still doesn't explain why this is the way you do it

    • @mffmart
      @mffmart 3 года назад +3

      @@tooru some other comments have reported that it was implemented in BASH as a way to avoid conflicts, and also to prevent accidentally executing files instead of commands, or vice versa. That's why it makes sense.
      They ported the concept from BASH into PowerShell

    • @turun_ambartanen
      @turun_ambartanen 3 года назад +2

      It has nothing to do with the way you do it in Lnux, even though the "limitation" is there as well.
      The real reason is security. Having to type the extra .\\ or ./ is to prevent you from accidentally running malicious files. If you issue a command the computer first checks if there is a file with that name in any directory of the PATH. If it were to check if a program exists in the current directory as well, a malicious person could simply put dri.exe in there and instead of not listing all files because you misstyped the dir command, it would actually run a malicious program.
      except if you mean the forward slash. That is simply because backslash is plain stupid.

  • @aid0nex
    @aid0nex 3 года назад

    Very interesting! Thanks a lot for this video!

  • @negai_
    @negai_ 2 года назад +1

    You make me create my own program in powershell by this video

  • @bazzyi9294
    @bazzyi9294 3 года назад +3

    Ngl he kinda scared me when he popped out from behind the couch

  • @NoOne-sy5fg
    @NoOne-sy5fg 2 года назад +3

    meanwhile me using zsh:

  • @emeraldishx8755
    @emeraldishx8755 3 года назад +1

    You are the best RUclips advice giver ever

  • @themistoclesnelson2163
    @themistoclesnelson2163 2 года назад

    Good explanation TJ!

  • @smft9147
    @smft9147 3 года назад +21

    Command prompt > powershell

    • @ThioJoe
      @ThioJoe  3 года назад +9

      The OG

    • @jaden8923
      @jaden8923 3 года назад

      Ye

    • @Brahvim
      @Brahvim 3 года назад

      @@abdulelahfallatah ? :/

    • @Brahvim
      @Brahvim 3 года назад

      @@abdulelahfallatah oh..
      xD!!!

  • @bitehunter122
    @bitehunter122 3 года назад +4

    MS-DOS - The real performer
    PowerShell - MS-DOS in drag
    Cmdlets - drag accessories

  • @danielfernandes1010
    @danielfernandes1010 3 года назад +1

    Thank you. I always saw powershell only as a program for some advanced people who worked with hundreds of computers in a corporate setup. After watching this I think it has some pretty cool uses for us as well.

    • @tazguy371
      @tazguy371 Год назад

      PowerShell definitely shines when you have multiple machines that you need to configure the same way. If you need to keep the configuration the same without allowing changes to the installed Windows features, PowerShell can do that as well.

  • @paul8926
    @paul8926 3 года назад

    I like your Onkyo surround speaker set-up in your living room, very cool.

  • @unknownaccount4783
    @unknownaccount4783 3 года назад +5

    But powershell requires .NET framework => slow startup
    Microsoft removing CMD soon? Gonna switch fully to yori

    • @vasopel
      @vasopel 3 года назад

      is this true? powershell uses . net? anyway I use cmd,

  • @jase_allen
    @jase_allen 3 года назад +4

    Hey, don't knock GoTo! Back in the days before Win95, I wrote a fairly complex (for the day) batch file that loaded on boot to more easily play DOS games so we didn't have to waste memory loading Windows and then the game. I made good use of If, error codes, and GoTo to make that work with all the games we had. Even today, GoTo is very handy to have in VBScript heavy Access Databases. Can't write 3,000 lines of script without throwing in a few GoTos.

  • @ragini2709
    @ragini2709 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for sharing this content.. the video was just awesome.

  • @thomaz_premium
    @thomaz_premium 2 года назад +1

    "PowerShell attempts to protect you from doing things unintentionally in two main ways:
    Requirement to run scripts by using a full path or relative path: When you run a script, you always need to provide the script's path. Providing the path helps you to know exactly what you're running. For example, there could be commands and aliases on your computer you don't intend to run, but that have the same name as your script. Including the path provides an extra check to ensure you run exactly what you want to run." - Microsoft Site (I cut the second one)

  • @black_platypus
    @black_platypus 7 месяцев назад +2

    Also, to make things more confusing, there is _Windows PowerShell,_ which is no longer updated since version 5.1, and there is what used to be called _PowerShell Core,_ nowadays simply _PowerShell,_ which has received multiple important updates for bug-/security fixes and new/extended features, and is in active development.
    So you might come across a PS script and wonder "Why isn't this working for me?" -- you might have to install the new, shiny PowerShell instead of the old Windows PowerShell.

  • @chromerims
    @chromerims 10 месяцев назад

    Get-Alias in Powershell is one I'll keep in mind. Thank you 👍

  • @dinner4chiahao
    @dinner4chiahao 3 года назад

    Really helpful video! Thanks

  • @kakhak
    @kakhak 3 года назад

    Very useful. Thanks.