I feel it’s Lars telling him what to play. He doesn’t like playing these types of solos anymore. He said that during some kind of monster. He isn’t allowed to do exactly what he wants.
@@PatPosseMaybe he should. Also, maybe they'd benefit from a guitarist who's into it and who composes solos rather than improvises them. But, lineup change at this stage, after 40 years together? Getting along is a big part of it. Also, lars and kirk are big parts of the formula, i think they'd lose that if they got an objectively more technically skilled drummer or guitarist. Whenever advanced shredders or drummer makes an "improved" metallica cover it sounds generic to me.
As a fan of forty years, the three new songs sound just like a continuation of hardwired. With one exception: I'm finding myself liking parts of the tunes not the wholes. In some cases most, in other just a few. But based on those three listens, I dramatically lowered my expectations for the new album, tho I appreciate the fact that there are many who love them
You’ve got a point there my friend! There’s some cool parts on each song but they get drowned in the riff salad that makes out the whole song… I was hoping this albums would be like Hardwired (or better) but that ship has sailed.. I hope I’m wrong though!
The singles sound like filler. They are way too long, and need editing. Also they sound uninspired. And, they so badly need a real producer to challenge them and guide them. Greg is not that guy.
@@PatPosse that is a concern for me too, albums this long usually have filler. If I get 6-8 songs that for me aren’t filler I’ll cut out the rest and be happy. The problem is with hardwired the singles were some of the best songs, and then there were a few filler tracks. So far for me all the singles here have been filler tracks. So I’m hoping the best is yet to come, but my gut tells me 5his will be the first metallica album I truly am not going to enjoy.
@@phadrus What I don't get though is why have fillers on an already long AF album... have 10 songs and less filler songs or trim down the fat on those 12 songs so that they are more straight forward and interesting! That's just me though...
Yes, it's very bizarre how Kirk didn't have any of his riffs backed up when he lost his phone. And why is it he's the only musician I've heard this happen to? He should be recording his riffs on a personal computer as soon as he finishes them.
That shit doesn't happen to us amateur musicians who play Brutal Technical Death Metal... we play them enough to remember the riffs before we put the guitar down and, if not, we record them, film ourselves, etc... email that shit, save it on the cloud, etc... I don't know, it baffles me that he got away with that...
i havent seen your previous video on this but holy shit i could listen to you talk about this for an hour you have great energy and u made a lot of rly good points, cant believe i didn't find this channel sooner
@@PatPosse Why are you so apologetic about your oppinion? To me its obviously wrong (your opinion) and let's not forget something. You are a nobody next to Kirk Hammett and sir Elton John actually has nothing else matters as one of the best songs ever. And it is, it just happened that James wrote it. The only thing you can draw from the negativity is more views to your channel. Taking that out of the picture I would hate having this song shortened because I liked it just the way it is. I wanted a long song and they delivered. You can criticize it like ajfa if that is the case for you but hey music is subjective and it is not for anyone. As far as Kirk Hammett goes, he actually went through some very personal stuff for hardwired and then what did you expect? Publicly announce it? Hetfield himself said that if and when he was ready he would speak. No reason at all to participate more in the album and for a metallica fan (let's face it, you are not. And I have all the albums and more bootlegs even from the VHS era than you, comes with the age) you forget that it was pretty much the case for Hammett for most of the older stuff. Some solos, some riffs and not even tracking most of the time. What metallica are doing is pretty much what they always did. They play what they like. Whoever musician you may ask I think they could say in common that, this is the ultimate success for an artist. And that to draw people to you you have to be honest. Let's be honest. You don't know them personally and you will never understand what their faces tell you. Because of profession I can tell you that they have health and mental issues and that goes for their bodies along with their personalities. This is to them, is much more important than adding triplets over chord progressions while shortening a song to satisfy any standard fan. You want them trapped and judged by how you feel a perfect song might be but, it is something you probably never wrote in your life and secondly it wouldn't be them. My respect for them is that they had the balls to put out music through the rough times, not the great times they had. You don't think they don't know how to add a dual lead part and be more straight to the point? They did fan service all over death magnetic doing this! For me, to be like iron maiden or ac dc would be my can't stand them anymore, I wouldn't want deteriorating mop rtl etc clones through the years. This song for others may be overextended and boring or a masterpiece or anything in between but it is exactly this polarizing views that give it value. Because, to satisfy the normal boring person is to take out elements that deviate more than 85% statistical distribution over bells shape. In other words, you want to apply to more people you have to only leave the liked by all few forms. That is why pop music is what it is and progressive metal will never reach similar staturs. You can play 300 chords for 3 musicians on the crowd or play 3 chords for 30000 people in a stadium. Is it wrong for any of that? Of course not. Their biggest success is having new fans, having old fans leaving them when they are more narrow minded or just de-tached over age or even having fathers taking their kids or grandkids to see metallica. Which it happens. Nostalgia plays a part and all these "sounds like whiplash, sounds like spit out the bone, sounds like the intro of suicide and redemption, sounds like the solo of RTL" is a card they play very unapolegitacally and very well. And that is a lot of people like them even today. It's not bad to be anything when you are true to yourself. I hope they never put out a song that is filtered especially through your standards, which for me would probably be very different to what I like to hear, as what I hear from them till now is pretty good for their age and state of being. Please don't even go to see them live man, you are probably not somebody that should be there. After two to three years of long covid etc negativity should be exiled from our lives, I'd even consider stop making these type of videos if I were you. That is why you get the most dislikes. Or is it what you need to make money from youtube? Any pubilicity is good publicity. Just...stop.
@@PatPosse I am fan at parties. You are just a pussy with a small penis. I wrote all that because you started the video with pretty much the worst youtube apology to yourself ever. As I said, just stop making videos. Do something positive.
Haha thats awesome. I watched the video you're talking about yesterday and I commented but i never read any of the other comments. Ima go back and read em. But you were correct in that video and you are definitely correct in this one.
Thank you brother!! That rules, comments sometimes help me clarify things I meant and many times I learn stuff from them as well. They are great (for the most part)
Really good take man. Especially in the context of Hardwired. Singles from that album were not my favorite songs from the record but I liked them and never skipped while listening. Can’t say the same about 72 unfortunately. Lux is the only cohesive track so far, all others have interesting parts but they should have trimmed like a third of each to make them polished. And the solos, well the Hardwired solos were not special but at least they didn’t ruin the songs, but on the new tracks it’s like Kirk didn’t even try to compose them, just noodled
Yes Tyler, hardwired didn’t have any epic solos but at least they made sense. On Darkness every time I hear it get not pissed at it… feels like they did a take, it was good enough; and moved on.
As you said, they really needed some one like Bob Rock to push them to make songs shorter and more cohesive. And the solos too, how many cool solos Kirk did on Black Album with Bob and Lars pushing him
Exactly! It doesn’t have to be Bob Rock if for whatever reason they don’t want to work together again, but it should be someone with the balls to act as a producer and not merely a fanboy engineer… I get it, it’s tough.
DUDE Thank you soooo so much for speaking out what was on my mind for the longest time. I got similar stuff happening. Every time, when i write a comment on Lars, I point out a problem with Lars and the stans just bomb under my comment with the dumbest and most illogical responses possible, and no matter how logical I explain it, no matter how much proof and links I provide when they don't, they just can not leave their own reality, they probably do not even watch the proof and links i give them, they still say that I hate Lars and that I am wrong which is not even true . The real reality is different than someones own reality and perception. I as a drummer know what the fuck I am talking about, of course there is some stuff about Lars that I like and don't like, but facts are facts, these stans have a hard time comprehending the difference between those. In most my criticism on Lars I even mention that I love Lars, I am a fan and very inspired by what he has done and his creativity and contribution back then and really everything, but i am disappointed in what he does currently and for a long time now. Just like Kirk, Lars can be so much better but I lost hope because its just not happening, he wont get his ass to sit down to practice or overthink things he does. Most Metallica fans would call me a ''Lars Hater'' just for saying how it is. I'm literally not hating on the guy but I am pointing out the stuff he does do and does not do, Or I am comparing Lars with young Lars, or with other drummers. And also metallica fans say people are still mad about Lars and the napster thing. That part is true, there are indeed still ''Lars Haters'' for specifically the napster reason, but still they cant see the difference between the people that *hate* Lars because of napster, and the people that want the best out of Lars but are disappointed in his performance and calling it out. They think both of that is the same. Just like you said, they say shit like ''then why has he made it and you didn't'' or ''you are just jealous'' like in these answers you can already see how hurt they are. They cant form logical responses or say how it is. They wont even respond to any points I specifically make, they just instantly write some comment that has nothing to do with anything. I can also talk about so many more situations and so much more specific stuff. The stupid things they do is just enough to write a whole Bible. 🤦♂ Great Video.
Hahaha dude, yes! That’s the problem with “die hard fans” “”. They know better and everyone else is a dumbass, how dare we critique their (our?) idols! The truth is that Metallica can release any steaming pile of dog shit and people will buy it like hot cakes because it’s got a Metallica logo on it. I too am guilty of this. I already know I probably won’t enjoy this album but already plan on buying it. It would be the only album missing on my Metallica collection and it will make for good content (I hope) but objectively speaking, had it been an unknown local band, no one would lend an ear to it. It’s average at best and even guys like us, who are not blinded by the logo, try to like the songs or find redeeming qualities in them. Coming from the same guys that wrote …And Justice for All, it should be way easier. And that’s the sad part. We know they are capable of composing more intricate harmonies and interesting Melodies… they just don’t. Thanks for watching and taking the time to write such and elaborate comment. There are none so blind than those who will not see.
@@PatPosse Yeah, even though I know it will not come close to their old stuff, at least I hope one single song will blow my mind, but that alone is a big wish already (sadly). It's indeed true that its average at best. While I do personally like Screaming Scide (idk if youtube allows me to even write that word 🙄), I only like that song because, there are couple of things they do there that I love. Like open strings while Lars plays a faster pace beat and rides it with a Crash, I really loved that sound. But I also only like it because it comes from Metallica, its the same guys that did AJFA, and the sound on that song is something I really enjoy. BUT fact is that it is truly average, and I would not listen to it if it was the same song but a different band. Also I want to mention that you also spoke out of my mind with the producer thing, they just do not have the balls like Bob Rock did. Another thing I find sad is that so far there wasn't too much creative stuff by Robert, either he doesn't say anything in the first place or they just don't let him. I think he is an amazing bass player and he has some cool abilities that RARELY get to shine with Metallica. It's like Metallica is bringing/holding Robert down for how amazing he is. (random note but thats similar how I feel about Adam lambert, for the Class act that Queen is Adam really brings them down), Metallica has so much potential that they don't use. But at the end I shouldn't care either, thats just the passionate fan side of me but if they don't do it whatever, I do not have to listen to them if i don't want to. Like Robert Trujillo can play Flamenco on an acoustic, has Metallica ever used that anywhere? I adore Queen so much because they literally used every single thing they had, if one had the ability for flamenco they would not even hesitate to try something with that ability. Metallica just never does this/never does this anymore.
QUEEEEEEENNNNN!!!! That being said, I agree with you. It seems like this is (and it is) Lars's and James' band and there's no room for anyone else's input since Bob Rock. I think Rob is underutilized and I feel Kirk might actually feel that way about himself too. Maybe that's why he just goes to the studio, records the solos, and is home by dinnertime. Sorry about the outburst, you just named my favorite band ever and I got excited lol
@@PatPosse yeah Queen is my number 1 favorite band too. I subbed to you originally because of that. I can never have enough Queen information, I know almost everything already but there is always small things that I can still learn about Queen. But yeah its hard to defend Metallica even though I love them, I don't understand how stans do it. Even with Queen I am still realistic. Maybe I can say that i am a little bit based on Adam but there is tons of factors to it so its just a little to maybe even not at all. And thats about it. I don't know what else to say other than most die hard Metallica fans are stupid 😂
Hahaha agreed my man! More queen content coming up soon! Do you follow me on Instagram? I just got a couple vinyls I was missing and I am getting close to owning all of them 😁
You have a very very similar outlook and history with metallica as I do, and we look to be close to the same age. I think this album will be a grower on you if I HAD to guess, while I still understand completely if you don’t because we’re all different
I'm hoping it is man! Class of '05 here! Looking forward to this album after listening to the title track, that one brought back the faith lol! I've pre ordered it, hoping to get my hands on it on release day! Wish me luck!!
@@PatPosse do me a favor bro, look up loudwires “ 10 things we love about the new metallica album “ and it’s refreshing to hear them ( they put a lot of the newer stuff down until last album ) praise a lot of the awesome moments we’ve yet to hear . They say Kirk writes an actually great solo that’s over a minute long on “ you must burn “ and how the final track “ inamorata “ is 11.5 minutes, but never boring . They say it has some of their most somber yet beautiful Melodie’s / riffs on it . Made me a lot more hype as well after the title track. Sorry for the book, Lars and James both posted the article, so that’s how I found it 😂 you just reminded me to preorder mine
@@NoahParker98 Yes, I read that! That's pretty cool, then again, Loudwire reviews are very hit or miss (more miss than hit...) but we'll see!! I can't believe they put out an 11 minute long song! lol
Right on, Pat! I just found your channel today and became a sub based on the two videos of yours that I watched. There’s something insidious about Metallica Fanboys… they’re easily triggered by honest criticism. It’s completely weird and foreign to me to take things that seriously that they go into full DEFCON 1 mode over an opinion. FYI, I’m a guitarist too. Rhythm mostly and James Hetfield was one of my main influences. I agree about Kirk… I think he’s checked out and doesn’t really have a lot to add anymore. I thought he was a great guitarist when I was a kid in the 80s but, there are so many shredders that make him look amateurish these days. I still have respect for the guy, I’m just not going to go along with the lie that he’s the best guitarist ever, like a lot of fanboys like to claim all the time.
Thank you very much and welcome to the channel my dude! Yeah fanboys just can’t get their heads out of their asses for a change and accept some criticism. I don’t get it, they take it personal. It’s like, if someone criticizes my favorite band… hell! If they criticize my own band I don’t get all crazy like they do lol. Kirk and James were huge influences on me as well that’s why I’m so frustrated… glad some of you understand, these videos and channel are meant for people like you who can be objective and can deal with opposing views and see beyond that. Glad to see I’m not the only one out there lol. Thanks for your support, looking forward to seeing more of your comments! Hope you enjoy the content!
Nowadays everyone on RUclips doing reaction videos are "highly sophisticated critiques" to Metallica's music. Suddenly everyone has got the "knowledge" to discuss Metallica. Everyone is suddenly qualified.
How about reacting to The Warning? Their first fame was their viral cover of 'Enter Sandman' in 2014 when they were 14, 12, and 9 years old, and they redid a cover which is on Metallica's _Blacklist_ album. Try 'Disciple', 'Evolve', and 'Animosity' to start, either music videos or the new live sessions at Teatro Metropolitan. The Teatro Met version of 'Enter Sandman' has a harder edge than the MV, too.
I love Metallica but let's be honest there better days are way past but I like the new stuff but I don't love it. But the older I get the more I love their older slower stuff like load and reload I have been listening to more lately. They need to go back to that and create more music like that it will fit James voice more, I'm just glad they are still kicking out new music.
I agree. Some good songs on Load and Reload... They definitely got more experimental with their sound and compositions then. Now it's a bit more predictable for the most part... That being said, I'm also glad they are still around. Thanks for commenting!
Met fan for more than 30 years, and I think you are 10000% right about your comments on objectivity and subjectivity. I also think it is BS that you are getting hate for having your own opinion. Being willing to open your mouth and give your opinion kinda the whole bedrock that metal is built on. Even some of Metallica’s weaker albums have had some gems that I love (Fuel is actually my personal fave song of theirs). I am expecting this album is going to have probably 2-4 songs I just won’t like and will almost never listen to after having heard them, 2-4 songs that I think are okay and can handle hearing, and then 4-6 songs that I actually really love. And 6 is overly optimistic for that.
Hi buddy, thanks for the support and I agree 100% that's why I don't care if I get hate from some random fanboys, most people who understand what metal is all about (such as yourself) have been very supportive, and ultimately those are the people and viewers I care about, so fuck 'em all! hahaha I'm with you, I think maybe 4 I'll actually love, 6 will be ok and the rest will be "meh". Hope to be wrong! I am already worried about the 12 minute song......... 🤦♂
As an old school fan, this is probably one of their best tracks they’ve ever written. Hit me with the 3’rd time but Gotta say Hetfiled’s parts are AMAZING! His voice is great! And yes the mixing is great
This video should be called: Pat spitting out facts about Metallica Seriously, I can tell that most of these haters in the comments obviously never bothered to listen to any other band beside Metallica
I'm a Metallica fan and appreciate most of their stuff, but I am no musician. I have taken some guitar lessons and have a new respect for the amount of work that goes into a song, even a crappy one. I could never argue a person's talent. Only another musician can recognize that. You mentioned that Kirk was the weakest link as of late. He just finished up a solo project recently and he may need a creative break. I still respect the hell outta him. And props for calling people out on their illogical statements. Huevos grande, dude.
Thanks my man! I try to keep it light and breezy, after all we are all here to have fun and enjoy music! But this was a bit too much and I guess I needed to vent. Lol. That being said, I don’t remember if I said it on the other video (or it might have been a reply to a comment) but I agree that Kirk’s EP was an attempt at a creative outlet. I was hoping that would fire him up and inspire him some more but it seems like it hasn’t. Maybe it was a hint at he not being in a Metallica mindset anymore… we’ll see how it all unfolds. Kirk is definitely a talented guy and I wish he finds it in himself to unleash his full potential again, be it in Metallica or some other project. 🤘🏻
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 I've been listening to Metal for over 25 years and playing metal for over 15, I got more years under my belt that your mom's milage. Speaking of pussies, how is she?
I don't hate Metallica; I'm actually one of their original fans and used to go see them as well as Slayer and Suicidal Tendencies at much smaller venues in the Los Angeles area when they were considered local bands when I was a teenager in the early 80's growing up in Huntington Park California (where Slayer started out). The thing is; I was also one of the fans who felt that they would never be as good after Cliff died and kind of put them on the back burner after that because I/we felt like they were becoming sellouts. Unfortunately I was pretty young and stupid to be so critical back then, but over the years I have expanded my appreciation for music and allowing myself to listen to many bands that I used to make fun of back then. Another thing I've noticed is that their newer music is far easier to figure out and play than the music they wrote during the first 10 years of their career. I mean, in about the last 8 years I've actually been able to easily pickup and play any of the newer songs I've heard from them pretty much instantaneously. Now this could just mean that I have simply progressed a lot after 42 years of playing guitar, or it could be that they just aren't as inspired and motivated in their creativity as they were back in their early days and are now just recycling most of the licks from the last 30 years because they're unable to progress in their creativity and have become too comfortable after 30 years of wealth and success which does have a tendency to soften a person up and make them forget where they originally came from.
Sad to say I would probably lean towards your second guess there… (not that you haven’t progressed in 42!!) but I’m sure it would still take you a while to figure out all of the nuances in master of puppets or and justice for all… I agree, they got simple and straight forward which is not necessarily a bad thing but yeah… definitely a more commercial approach. What do you think of the song they released today?
About the Hardwired Kirk's work... His best solo on that album is in my opinion on "Am I Savage?"....I don't like that song really, but that breakdown, crunch and solo are something most memorable on that album for me at least... I have to say I loved Kirk's solo EP "Portals"... But he should've been more invested in Metallica as he is the integral part of the band and their sound...
Kirk's work was not great on Hardwired but the songs were ok for the most part and that made up for it.. also he had an "excuse" and we bought it....His EP I thought was going to be a good outlet and I hoped he would come back to Metallica with a fresh mindset. That was not the case....
But none of the things you listed as objective are objective. If someone likes a solo it isn't a bad solo, subjectively. If someone actually enjoys the full 7 minutes of like 3 riffs or whatever the song actually has that's also good song writing, subjectively. We can talk about the objective facts of the song structure, but whether or not those things are good or not isn't objective; though I guess they can be objectively unconventional. Like, it's not conventional for a song to spend the first nearly minute and a half peddling between 2 very simplistic musical ideas rooted in the same chord as If Darkness Had A Son does, and if your only standard for quality is convention than I guess you'd have a point. However, at no point is it ever established here (or anywhere, really) that this was the criteria. For the record, I did not see your last video (this is the first time youtube put you in my feed, hi.) and most definitely didn't downvote it. I respect your views whatever they may be. My contention isn't personal. It's that faux-objective nonsense gets on my tits. Without an axiomatic criteria of quality for which to measure the objective traits to there are no meaningful claims to objective quality. HOWEVER; even then I'd be hesitant to say that that would constitute objectivity since your axiomatic criteria will differ from someone else's; and if the band isn't trying to fit your specific criteria than it can't be considered an objective failure for not meeting that criteria anyway. Objectively speaking a lime isn't an apple. That doesn't mean limes are bad, unless your criteria for "bad" is "not an apple". That is why I think your claims like "It's way too long" don't necessarily ring truly objective. It's "too long" for what exactly; and why are we using whatever that thing is as the standard of quality? This is never established. "It's a little bit too repetitive" for what exactly, and why is that thing the assumed indicator of objective quality? Again, never established. Also, by whatever those metrics are, would you then also say that purposefully slow styles like drone metal, funeral doom, no-wave, and sleep drone are objectively bad since they bank on slow repetition? Can an entire genre of music be bad simply because it fails to meet an arbitrary metric it never tried to accomplish anyway? Seems absolutely silly to me.
Hey man! First of all, thanks for respectfully disagreeing and explaining your concerns here. First of all, yes, a lot of this was sort of explained on the previous video, objective in this sense would be within the canons of a well produced, effective metal song, meaning that for example, a song would be too long and repetitive for the genre and what a listener expects. That being said and having read your comment and explanation, I think your point is as valid as mine. The way I see it, Objectively speaking, Black Sabbath's Black Sabbath is a song that's WAY too repetitive. Subjectively speaking, however, the song rules and it's one of the darkest, most awesome, metal songs!. The fact that someone subjectively likes Black Sabbath (or this song) doesn't not take away from the fact that a song is too repetitive. A 7 minute song with 3 main riffs that repeat themselves over and over for most of it is objectively a repetitive song. Of course, art (and thus music) is subjective and we may fall in love with said repetitiveness. This is why we must leave our feelings behind in order to objectively analyze a song. I'll be the first one to tell you I love some songs that are objectively simple and hate some songs that are objectively complex. Hope this clears up what I meant. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I think they are completely drained as a metal band, the only reason for producing this album I can think of is the fact that everyone was waiting for the new record, they write under such pressure, and I respect that they keep going, but this is real sad. The worst part that they can't separate, I would love to see James in some other setting, he writes great music. Solo is awful tho, like plain, unseasoned rice. I hope Kirk will retire and give someone who can actually write guitar music a chance to bring new flavor to this stagnant, corporate, and sad husk of a band. I really was looking forward for hetfield-mustaine collaboration, but things are not looking good, mustaine still writes great material, kinda lame that james still can't step over themself, would be great end to their music journey, they would play together, at last They have a so much potential to support upcoming metal musicians by features, touring, just by their presence, experience, and connections. They really can bring the metal scene back to mainstream, if they wanted to do so, like motorhead, ozzy, alice cooper, give new bands a shot, but they are delusional and think that they will make another decent album, what a waste.
Sadly you make some great points and I don’t think the James-Dave merge will happen. I hope it turns though… I mean, kirk made a solo album.. why couldn’t James do it?
The solo in If Darkness had a son isn't that bad. It's a bit long and uses the pentatonic scale and is over-drenched in wah, but That's what Kirk has been doing every since Load or arguably, the black album. The riff underneath the solo changes a bunch of times, and the drums and guitar at one point, play a half-time tempo, which is probably why the solo had to be that long. I wasn't too impressed the first couple times listening to the song, but after repeated listens, I can kind of see what he was going for with that solo. It still takes lots of talent to play a solo like that, even if it's not as amazing as the solos on the first five albums.
@@PatPosse Sure, it pales in comparison to some of the amazing solos he's done in the past, but he's getting old now. Also, it seems like he improvises his solos now, Greg Fidelman keeps the best take, and he learns how to play it live afterwards.
@@Constant_Threat It's for sure improvised, you can tell there's not even a thought or idea for a melody behind it. He's just doing enough to get by at this point. Greg needs to grow a pair and push him to bring his best performance forward! Being old has nothing to do with it, look at Megadeth, Testament and many others... same age, and they still shred! (or at least they try to!). Even if "shredding" is beyond his abilities now (it's not, he's on fire live) at least come up with a good melodic solo or something... I don't know, that's just me.
@@PatPosse exactly, and well said. They need a producer that can challenge them. I’ve listened to the singles a lot and they get more and more disappointing.
No one has ever pushed Hammett harder than Bob Rock...Period. 5th member 1984! 4Life! As a fan for almost 4years. But every body has a choice to what ever chapter they want to like. My own opinion. 'Tallica4life....I could honestly said I am satisfied with Metallica. I've had my ride on the Tallica train since 84...cliff, newsted, Trujillo...live 1986 before cliff accident in Las Cruces, NM...90's era all around the southwest.....World Magnetic tour Albuquerque, Nm. I can go on and on..so I'm good. I'm no one to judge as long you love Tallica as much as I do...who cares about what others say bro. Keep rockin'..🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻☠☠☠
Thank you brother!! Love the support ! I’m jealous you got to see Cliff!! Must have been awesome… my first Metallica concert was in 99… Eb flat tuning, short hair and eyeliner. 🤦🏻♂️
It’s because the whole song is just a jumble of riffs spliced together aimlessly meandering for 7 mins.... Frankly Hammett’s solo is just a reflection of the song....
Also, James Hetfield's lyrics let these songs down, they are repetitive single-word rhymes strung together, there's no strong narrative that takes hold of your imagination.
I agree. I thought that his solo on this album sucked. Vs megadeth new album dude, it's sick! Bob Rock was saying and asking the same thing from kirk. Do your homework. My dog ate my homework is bs
Hahaha my dog ate my homework is the worst! I will definitely do a track by track battle between this album and The Sick, the dying and the dead. So far Megadeth takes it if you ask me!
@@PatPosse that's a great idea. I think you should. Kiko is really doing some better stuff and mustaine rhythm work and lyrics are on point of the world today. I mean there are some filler songs but there are 4 songs from the new megadeth album that is great.
Totally! I was lucky enough (“lucky” I had to go through hell and back, lol) to actually have the CD on release day and I have listened to it a few times but I should definitely revisit it! I hope to be able to do the same with Tallica’s! We’ll see…
I have watched your previous video where you discussed about new Metallica song and indeed uninspired Kirk's solo. Im totally sharing your opinion. Sorry to Metallica and all the fans but from a musician's perspective this new album is disaster. This entire story about their new album looks to me like they were forced to release something new. However Metallica is still my favorite bend and they will be always number one. Cheers! 🤘
Thanks man! I appreciate your support! I am glad you are not of those fanboys that take any criticism to the band as a personal attack. I love 'tallica too but this album is a huge let down to me so far. I hope they got some bangers up their sleeve though!
Haters gonna hate I guess. I think only people who didn't achieve something in life they can be proud on like to put other people down for no reason. Happy and grateful people never do something like that. And you can see how little they know about you when they don't even knew you're a guitarist 😂
Hahaha I’ve got a long way to go man! Hopefully one day they will know I play guitar (even though it’s on my profile pic lol) thanks for watching and commenting brother, means a lot!!
Brilliant video and commentary Pat. You've intelligently stated your position, called out the haters who hate out of their stupid ignorance, and justified your opinion from a musical skill and logical perspective. Good thing you didn't mention how Puppets and Lightning are sped up as Hetfield and Hammett took the accolades and applause for years until the secrets were revealed. Looks like their downpicking 'Gods' right hand is made of clay...
Thanks Mike! I tried to keep the debate somewhat respectful, lol. I understand points of views are different and people may like things I don't but, it doesn't seem like they can understand such a simple concept, lol. Bit of catharsis doesn't hurt anyone right? The down-picking thing to me is not a big deal, they did play the songs live and kept up with speed then, I guess they needed the Magic of the Studio to keep it nice and tight though! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@PatPosse nothing but respect Pat, I'd like to see Kirk attempt deeds of flesh. The best down picker in their band may have been Jason who kept up on bass at the correct speed!
I'm completely with you man!... i like most of their albums. Hetfield is one of the greatest guys in Metal, imo, but what i heard so far - 3 Songs from the new album - is the weakest, uninspired, und just plain generic sounding stuff i've ever heard from them. i can hardly believe that this is the stuff that they want the world to hear... but to each their own. besides, i need my metal dose every day, so its probably the occasional metal listener who might find stuff like this exciting...
I agree completely though, do listen to the title track if you haven’t yet, it’s the 1 track out of the 4 I actually enjoyed… a lot of Metallica’s stuff seems to be metal for non-metal listeners and a lot of their advocates and people doing praise reactions on RUclips are also people who are not into metal or that haven’t been listening to metal a long time… then comes Pat with the criticism and the sheep get triggered. This generation man, I’ll tell ya…
@@PatPosse haha oh man... dont listen to them. Ok i will try some other songs, i heard the last 2 songs on the new album should be good. but i don't know... greetings from austria though! stay Metal!
Hahaha no worries, if I care about what haters said I wouldn’t be on RUclips 🤣🤣. People disliking you and commenting negatively is a sign of growth! That means your video is not only being shown to people who usually watch your videos 😁. One day I’ll make it to Europe.. I swear!
I love the new stuff, but I respect your opinion. You presented it well, and proved that you come from a place of love for the band. As for the “special set of balls” to say no to Metallica. There’s only one. Bob Rock.
I'm going out on a limb by saying that I fucking love this song and the entire vibe I'm getting off this new album. Music is definitely subjective and not everyone will like everything Metallica puts out. Kirk doesn't play like Marty Friedman but his solos fit well in each Metallica song. Could the song have been trimmed? I don't think so.
No? Really? Nothing is too long or repetitive? Man! I’d kill for your patience hahaha. He is definitely not Marty but listen to the newest song (if you haven’t yet). He actually put out a good solo!!!
Huge Metallica fan and I agree with you... These last two singles sound more commercial, and it sounds like Kirk didn't put much effort really. If Darkness had a son, first of all sounds like a wierd title... 😅 It is dragged way too long for what it is.. It should've been cut down to 4- 5 minutes and it would be more decent as a commercal radio song like on the black album...
Yes, way too long and repetitive. I also blame the producer for that... you gotta have the balls to tell them "hey guys... this isn't ...And Justice for All... we can't justify 7 minutes of this...
I blame Bob Rock for the downfall of Metallica. His first record was the Black album and then their catalog goes to crap after that, at least going by the standards they set in the 80's where every album is in someone's top 10 metal album list. Aside from all the crying in their homemade movie, he was the one telling him how great they sounded when everyone in my living room was trashing them about how bad they sounded. Load really wasn't that bad, but its faults lay in the hands of the fans and the band. The band wanted to try something new. Fine. I remember it came out in the summer of '96 when metal was dying. All of a sudden on the radio one day, the DJ says, "New Metallica, 5pm! Tonight! Be here!" We waited all day just to hear "Until it Sleeps." Not a bad song, but we wanted something heavy because there was nothing out there. Pantera had the "Great Southern Trendkill" out at the time, but few radio stations had the balls to play their music. Looking back, the sheer amount of backlash was unfair to the band and overkill, but the band said "Fuck You" to their fans and it was never the same. I remember a year or two later and Re-Load was on the horizon, and everyone was like, "Maybe Re-Load means they'll be heavy again!" Nope, doubled down on their alternative sound and a record that honestly, sucked. I haven't listened to a single record of theirs since. Then the Napster issue a year later, etc. Then the movie with them crying all the time, wiping their eyes with hundred dollar bills. It showed how out of touch they became from everyone. Trujillo's bass audition was killer though. A few years ago, Kirk was talking about his house being on fire and sending his wife into the blazes to get a few guitars. He sent his wife. Wow. Rant over. *Hands soapbox to the next person*
Hahaha!! Although I agree that after Bob Rock Metallica drastically changed their sound, I can't agree that he was the downfall necessarily. In fact, I think he made Metallica the best they could be (production and sound-wise). Them albums would have been way worse if not for him pushing their sound and playing to their limits. That being said, I OF COURSE enjoy the first 4 albums over everything else they've done...
@@PatPosse Maybe. Regarding Bob Rock. Personally, I think their sound died with Cliff Burton. Assuming what I heard about him is true in that he was the music theory guy in the band.
Maybe Kirk does have an impediment or medical issue. In the last decade or so, I've noticed when he's interviewed he sounds like he's constricted somehow. Like his face is made of really hard rubber and it's hard to talk. Maybe his whole body, including his fingers are like that. Maybe it's simply getting old. Who knows and metallica has blown royal goats since Justice. I really think that the fidelity of their tone, the quality of their writing, their choice of instruments and pickups, amps and effects is third rate at best since 1988. They should have went back to Flemming Rasmussen after Bob Rock corrupted their minds.
I like Metallica....but that song sucks! Man I just realized I've been listening to Metallica since I was 10. That was 1990...wtf! Tbh I dont think they should even be making new music. Just play the great songs we all enjoy. Slipknot should stop while they're ahead too. I love em but they arent coming up with anything catchy or substantial anymore either.
I mean... I do like the fact that they still come up with new stuff... They just need a nudge in the right direction. A producer that can set them straight...
I have to agree about Kirk's solos. They all sound the same. Chaotic and frenzied with too much wha pedal. I'd love to hear James work with other guitarists.
All you said is 100% true i love Metallica but they need to push Kirk to be better in the same way Lars was so critized that he actually take seriously and he star practice we see him live in recents shows we noticed he is better now because he listen all the comments and he push himself to sound better is not a technical drummer but he always is very intellligent to write the drums on metallica songs sale way Kirk should put more effort and more collabs on the album im sure the rest of the songs are way better i like the 3 so far but not as a máster piece i came from your newest video and you enjoy 72 seasons thats a great song so that is frwsh air of hope because i know there are somo good songs there
Yes! It’s a shame really.. let’s see how it pans out live and in the context of an album… but just tweaking a few details would have improved it so much…
I agree they need a tough producer. That tells them it’s crap. Greg does a good job, but he is too nice to them. Hardwired so far is better than this one just cause the songs are too long and repetitive. Don’t need to hear the chorus 4xs. Sometimes they don’t need solos. They’re just doing it now to satisfy fans.
I think Lux A is good but not impressed by next couple tracks. Liked a few songs off Hardwired esp Spit out the Bone. Totally dug the first 3 songs off Death Magnetic. I forced myself to try and like the Black album, still really like Holier than Thou though. For me, nothing tops the first 4 albums.
Holier than thou is a great song! I actually popped in the Black Album for the first time in a decade probably while editing this video. Killer sound, solid album. Not their best but good nonetheless !
*Every single new Metallica track I've heard from 72 Seasons has been TRASH. Weak riffs, boring chugging, soft sound. Definitely not for me.* 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
The new album seems pretty disappointing so far. Hammett is tone deaf at this point and probably suffering arthritis or something. None of the guys were ever "Virtuoso" level, but as a whole, they were serviceable and made some incredible stuff. But it seems like they've checked out. Whether because of weariness or age catching up with them, they just aren't in it anymore it seems.
Sadly, I feel the same way. They were a killer band at one point but they seem to not have that same anger, violence, thirst, hunger… call it what you will, they ain’t got it. They can still put out some good tracks (72 seasons, Atlas, rise, spit out the bone…) but it’s not the same it was.
Some of Kirk's solos just drive me crazy. He can be totally awesome to mediocre in the same solo. I'm not at the level of Kirk in my guitar playing (well, not too far off if I tried, I'm more of a melodic Gilmour guy) but I have an ear for what works and what doesn't. He leaves stuff on songs that I definitely wouldn't. I can tell when he plays run of notes that doesn't work in the key they are in. Take "Sad but True" for example, the solo is totally awesome until the band modulates up to the IV chord (or whatever they do, I don't know theory) at which point the solo loses steam and becomes a discordant mess to my ears with Kirk playing in the wrong mode at times. The entire solo should have stayed in the original key. The solo to "Unforgiven" on the other hand rocks all the way through.
I agree 100% a lot of times he’d do dissonant runs that make no sense just to add some fast runs into it. I wish he would just buckle down and work on the soloes like he did on unforgiven. One of his best for sure!
Whammett did his best solos on AJFA, but that was over 30 fkn years ago! Ulrich and his fills; rat-a-tat-a-tat-a-tat, Jesus Christ, that may have worked on Sad But True, but again that was over 30 years ago. He plays the same fill all the time. Lazy lazy lazy.
Aye it's subjective and one's own opinion. I love all 4 songs. Though I would say that you said some things are objective. I disagree. The last 2 songs are not too long..in my opinion 🤘✌🔥🔥
Well.... it's a grower indeed. But, I'll never like it as much as Hardwired. I'm pretty fn sure of that. After 3 listens, it's OK. There's parts that are good. James is doing some interesting stuff. But it's mostly droning on and on.
Eah member of the band is worth no less than 200 MILLION dollars. They can rake in a million dollars per show. Kirk sucks? I do not think so I think he is just bored. He was taught by Joe Satriani.
Never said he sucked. In fact, I KNOW he can do better! if money is not an incentive anymore, and Metallica is not doing it for you, just call it quits… find a creative outlet.. let James solo 🤷🏻♂️. Lots of way to save face. This is just sad.
Bring back Bob Rock, I dont like the tone of the new 3 songs so far. this album so like left over songs from hardwired but not as good.. thanks for speaking the truth Pat
Thank you brother!! After all the hate I was hesitant to make this video but then I said, screw it, and went for it! Apparently people still appreciate the truth 😁🤘🏻. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@PatPosse I'm not sure you understand what a fact is. Opinions are not facts. Saying Metallica's last 3 albums are not good is not a fact. That's a subjective opinion. Ascertain the difference between the two.
Metallica is MY favourite band and yet I full agree that new stuff is really subpar and under-developed. Lux Eterna is kind of catch and good song, with nice tempo and energy, and then Kirk goes in and just mashes his guitar strings. Thats it. I dont have any high hopes that the rest of the album will stand out in any way
I met all of them in 1987 at a club in San Francisco called the stone right after Jason joined. They were there that night to support Flotsam and Jetsam. And Kirk signed my jacket.
Yeah, very objectively there is repetition and things that have been done before. Kirks solos, as a whole, are not melodic or creatively unique these days. Again, you can't say that. It's a crime. Precious, precious Metallica, can't be judged. If you judge, you're a hater.
They need a provocative producer. They need someone to say no. Bob Rock by all accounts was a pain the in ass to work with but he squeezed the best out of them
Let's google who you are. Dan found a few videos. So the stammering here qualifies you to criticize Kirk? Are you serious? ruclips.net/video/DXjYjuga3bo/видео.html Your death metal squeaking or the fast downing of the pentatonics should be something now? Tastes are one thing, I agree with you, but anyone who scratches such an amateur dares to publish, should be careful with statements about a guitarist he can't even match. And then you wonder about the answers under your video? But the real reason for the millions of reactions on RUclips is that you can generate clicks with the popularity of an artist. In case of negative criticism usually much more,
HAHAHA you have obviously never picked up an instrument if you can't tell that that riff is far more technical than anything Kirk has ever put out. I understand if you are too much of a wimp for Death Metal but don't be ignorant...
I massively respect and like Metallica but man, there new songs from this album are just generic cliche thrash riffs that have been played 1000 times in the past by about every thrash band in the 80s, just sound uninspired, infact alot of the riffs there ripping off are there own
That’s my point. I’m also a Metallica fan but I think we should be able to freely criticize them if needed. This last song was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me… they will release a song tomorrow supposedly. I haven’t heard any of the teasers so I can have a fresh set of ears and have a genuine reaction to it on the video tomorrow. I’m crossing my fingers but honestly, I’m not too thrilled. Hoping to be wrong though!
@@PatPosse yeah very true just because your a fan of the band doesn't meen you have to like all the music or can't have a say on it, I heard the teaser abit earlier, it's obviously only very short but I had the same feeling about it as the other songs released, abit generic, hopefully the full song surprises me too in a good way
I can understand that completely! It just goes on forever. My favorite riff on the song is featured the least… maybe that’s why I dug it lol. Kirk’s solo… atrocious.
Metallica. The safest band at airports. Because they haven’t set off a metal detector since 1989. They exist for nostalgia fans or the soft kids who like rock because of things like stranger things. Metallica went from a metal band to a rock band. Bottom line you dig it cool. No one gives a shit and if you don’t that’s cool too. So many people have a weird sycophantic devotion to them though.
Hahahaha!!! That was an awesome line! Yeah they are definitely a Rock/Hard Rock/metal band but they are straying farther from their thrash days by the minute. Nothing wrong with that, but definitely different!
I agree. Much of his fame comes from the fact that he is part of the biggest band in Heavy Metal but there’s tons of better guitar players out there. That being said though, he did record some of the most iconic solos in Metal’s history !
@Pat Posse Yes!! Think about it for a second, if he had stayed in Exodus, few people would know who he was, and I doubt he would've stood out. Metallica should've teamed up with a better drummer and lead guitarist back in the late 80s early 90s. I prefer megadeth over metallica, and I would like to see Hetfield and Mustaine with a good drummer and bass player!!
It's so weird about Kirk. His solo album was great in my opinion. High Plains Drifter has one of his best solos.
it showed that he can come up with great stuff if he actually works on it!
I feel it’s Lars telling him what to play. He doesn’t like playing these types of solos anymore. He said that during some kind of monster. He isn’t allowed to do exactly what he wants.
@@troybaker8113 At that point he should just walk away with some dignity.. but now on this new song, he actually plays a mean solo!
@@PatPosseMaybe he should. Also, maybe they'd benefit from a guitarist who's into it and who composes solos rather than improvises them. But, lineup change at this stage, after 40 years together? Getting along is a big part of it. Also, lars and kirk are big parts of the formula, i think they'd lose that if they got an objectively more technically skilled drummer or guitarist. Whenever advanced shredders or drummer makes an "improved" metallica cover it sounds generic to me.
As a fan of forty years, the three new songs sound just like a continuation of hardwired. With one exception: I'm finding myself liking parts of the tunes not the wholes. In some cases most, in other just a few. But based on those three listens, I dramatically lowered my expectations for the new album, tho I appreciate the fact that there are many who love them
You’ve got a point there my friend! There’s some cool parts on each song but they get drowned in the riff salad that makes out the whole song… I was hoping this albums would be like Hardwired (or better) but that ship has sailed.. I hope I’m wrong though!
The singles sound like filler. They are way too long, and need editing. Also they sound uninspired. And, they so badly need a real producer to challenge them and guide them. Greg is not that guy.
On point here. The title track sounds good. I wonder though... how long is this album going to be?? 12 songs at a 7 minute average???
@@PatPosse that is a concern for me too, albums this long usually have filler. If I get 6-8 songs that for me aren’t filler I’ll cut out the rest and be happy. The problem is with hardwired the singles were some of the best songs, and then there were a few filler tracks. So far for me all the singles here have been filler tracks. So I’m hoping the best is yet to come, but my gut tells me 5his will be the first metallica album I truly am not going to enjoy.
@@phadrus What I don't get though is why have fillers on an already long AF album... have 10 songs and less filler songs or trim down the fat on those 12 songs so that they are more straight forward and interesting!
That's just me though...
Yes, it's very bizarre how Kirk didn't have any of his riffs backed up when he lost his phone. And why is it he's the only musician I've heard this happen to? He should be recording his riffs on a personal computer as soon as he finishes them.
That shit doesn't happen to us amateur musicians who play Brutal Technical Death Metal... we play them enough to remember the riffs before we put the guitar down and, if not, we record them, film ourselves, etc... email that shit, save it on the cloud, etc... I don't know, it baffles me that he got away with that...
i havent seen your previous video on this but holy shit i could listen to you talk about this for an hour you have great energy and u made a lot of rly good points, cant believe i didn't find this channel sooner
Thank you very much Luke! I appreciate the kind words!!
@@PatPosse Why are you so apologetic about your oppinion?
To me its obviously wrong (your opinion) and let's not forget something. You are a nobody next to Kirk Hammett and sir Elton John actually has nothing else matters as one of the best songs ever. And it is, it just happened that James wrote it. The only thing you can draw from the negativity is more views to your channel.
Taking that out of the picture I would hate having this song shortened because I liked it just the way it is. I wanted a long song and they delivered. You can criticize it like ajfa if that is the case for you but hey music is subjective and it is not for anyone.
As far as Kirk Hammett goes, he actually went through some very personal stuff for hardwired and then what did you expect? Publicly announce it? Hetfield himself said that if and when he was ready he would speak. No reason at all to participate more in the album and for a metallica fan (let's face it, you are not. And I have all the albums and more bootlegs even from the VHS era than you, comes with the age) you forget that it was pretty much the case for Hammett for most of the older stuff. Some solos, some riffs and not even tracking most of the time.
What metallica are doing is pretty much what they always did. They play what they like. Whoever musician you may ask I think they could say in common that, this is the ultimate success for an artist. And that to draw people to you you have to be honest. Let's be honest. You don't know them personally and you will never understand what their faces tell you. Because of profession I can tell you that they have health and mental issues and that goes for their bodies along with their personalities. This is to them, is much more important than adding triplets over chord progressions while shortening a song to satisfy any standard fan. You want them trapped and judged by how you feel a perfect song might be but, it is something you probably never wrote in your life and secondly it wouldn't be them.
My respect for them is that they had the balls to put out music through the rough times, not the great times they had. You don't think they don't know how to add a dual lead part and be more straight to the point? They did fan service all over death magnetic doing this!
For me, to be like iron maiden or ac dc would be my can't stand them anymore, I wouldn't want deteriorating mop rtl etc clones through the years.
This song for others may be overextended and boring or a masterpiece or anything in between but it is exactly this polarizing views that give it value.
Because, to satisfy the normal boring person is to take out elements that deviate more than 85% statistical distribution over bells shape. In other words, you want to apply to more people you have to only leave the liked by all few forms. That is why pop music is what it is and progressive metal will never reach similar staturs. You can play 300 chords for 3 musicians on the crowd or play 3 chords for 30000 people in a stadium. Is it wrong for any of that? Of course not.
Their biggest success is having new fans, having old fans leaving them when they are more narrow minded or just de-tached over age or even having fathers taking their kids or grandkids to see metallica. Which it happens. Nostalgia plays a part and all these "sounds like whiplash, sounds like spit out the bone, sounds like the intro of suicide and redemption, sounds like the solo of RTL" is a card they play very unapolegitacally and very well. And that is a lot of people like them even today. It's not bad to be anything when you are true to yourself.
I hope they never put out a song that is filtered especially through your standards, which for me would probably be very different to what I like to hear, as what I hear from them till now is pretty good for their age and state of being.
Please don't even go to see them live man, you are probably not somebody that should be there. After two to three years of long covid etc negativity should be exiled from our lives, I'd even consider stop making these type of videos if I were you. That is why you get the most dislikes. Or is it what you need to make money from youtube? Any pubilicity is good publicity. Just...stop.
@@81giorikas You wrote all of that to say nothing... wow, and I'M the negative one!! You must be fun at parties HAHAHA🤦♂
@@PatPosse I am fan at parties. You are just a pussy with a small penis.
I wrote all that because you started the video with pretty much the worst youtube apology to yourself ever. As I said, just stop making videos. Do something positive.
Haha thats awesome. I watched the video you're talking about yesterday and I commented but i never read any of the other comments. Ima go back and read em. But you were correct in that video and you are definitely correct in this one.
Thank you brother!! That rules, comments sometimes help me clarify things I meant and many times I learn stuff from them as well. They are great (for the most part)
Really good take man. Especially in the context of Hardwired. Singles from that album were not my favorite songs from the record but I liked them and never skipped while listening. Can’t say the same about 72 unfortunately. Lux is the only cohesive track so far, all others have interesting parts but they should have trimmed like a third of each to make them polished. And the solos, well the Hardwired solos were not special but at least they didn’t ruin the songs, but on the new tracks it’s like Kirk didn’t even try to compose them, just noodled
Yes Tyler, hardwired didn’t have any epic solos but at least they made sense. On Darkness every time I hear it get not pissed at it… feels like they did a take, it was good enough; and moved on.
As you said, they really needed some one like Bob Rock to push them to make songs shorter and more cohesive. And the solos too, how many cool solos Kirk did on Black Album with Bob and Lars pushing him
Exactly! It doesn’t have to be Bob Rock if for whatever reason they don’t want to work together again, but it should be someone with the balls to act as a producer and not merely a fanboy engineer… I get it, it’s tough.
DUDE Thank you soooo so much for speaking out what was on my mind for the longest time. I got similar stuff happening. Every time, when i write a comment on Lars, I point out a problem with Lars and the stans just bomb under my comment with the dumbest and most illogical responses possible, and no matter how logical I explain it, no matter how much proof and links I provide when they don't, they just can not leave their own reality, they probably do not even watch the proof and links i give them, they still say that I hate Lars and that I am wrong which is not even true . The real reality is different than someones own reality and perception. I as a drummer know what the fuck I am talking about, of course there is some stuff about Lars that I like and don't like, but facts are facts, these stans have a hard time comprehending the difference between those. In most my criticism on Lars I even mention that I love Lars, I am a fan and very inspired by what he has done and his creativity and contribution back then and really everything, but i am disappointed in what he does currently and for a long time now. Just like Kirk, Lars can be so much better but I lost hope because its just not happening, he wont get his ass to sit down to practice or overthink things he does. Most Metallica fans would call me a ''Lars Hater'' just for saying how it is. I'm literally not hating on the guy but I am pointing out the stuff he does do and does not do, Or I am comparing Lars with young Lars, or with other drummers. And also metallica fans say people are still mad about Lars and the napster thing. That part is true, there are indeed still ''Lars Haters'' for specifically the napster reason, but still they cant see the difference between the people that *hate* Lars because of napster, and the people that want the best out of Lars but are disappointed in his performance and calling it out. They think both of that is the same. Just like you said, they say shit like ''then why has he made it and you didn't'' or ''you are just jealous'' like in these answers you can already see how hurt they are. They cant form logical responses or say how it is. They wont even respond to any points I specifically make, they just instantly write some comment that has nothing to do with anything. I can also talk about so many more situations and so much more specific stuff. The stupid things they do is just enough to write a whole Bible. 🤦♂
Great Video.
Hahaha dude, yes! That’s the problem with “die hard fans” “”. They know better and everyone else is a dumbass, how dare we critique their (our?) idols! The truth is that Metallica can release any steaming pile of dog shit and people will buy it like hot cakes because it’s got a Metallica logo on it. I too am guilty of this. I already know I probably won’t enjoy this album but already plan on buying it. It would be the only album missing on my Metallica collection and it will make for good content (I hope) but objectively speaking, had it been an unknown local band, no one would lend an ear to it. It’s average at best and even guys like us, who are not blinded by the logo, try to like the songs or find redeeming qualities in them. Coming from the same guys that wrote …And Justice for All, it should be way easier.
And that’s the sad part. We know they are capable of composing more intricate harmonies and interesting Melodies… they just don’t.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to write such and elaborate comment.
There are none so blind than those who will not see.
@@PatPosse Yeah, even though I know it will not come close to their old stuff, at least I hope one single song will blow my mind, but that alone is a big wish already (sadly). It's indeed true that its average at best. While I do personally like Screaming Scide (idk if youtube allows me to even write that word 🙄), I only like that song because, there are couple of things they do there that I love. Like open strings while Lars plays a faster pace beat and rides it with a Crash, I really loved that sound. But I also only like it because it comes from Metallica, its the same guys that did AJFA, and the sound on that song is something I really enjoy. BUT fact is that it is truly average, and I would not listen to it if it was the same song but a different band. Also I want to mention that you also spoke out of my mind with the producer thing, they just do not have the balls like Bob Rock did. Another thing I find sad is that so far there wasn't too much creative stuff by Robert, either he doesn't say anything in the first place or they just don't let him. I think he is an amazing bass player and he has some cool abilities that RARELY get to shine with Metallica. It's like Metallica is bringing/holding Robert down for how amazing he is. (random note but thats similar how I feel about Adam lambert, for the Class act that Queen is Adam really brings them down), Metallica has so much potential that they don't use. But at the end I shouldn't care either, thats just the passionate fan side of me but if they don't do it whatever, I do not have to listen to them if i don't want to. Like Robert Trujillo can play Flamenco on an acoustic, has Metallica ever used that anywhere? I adore Queen so much because they literally used every single thing they had, if one had the ability for flamenco they would not even hesitate to try something with that ability. Metallica just never does this/never does this anymore.
QUEEEEEEENNNNN!!!!
That being said, I agree with you. It seems like this is (and it is) Lars's and James' band and there's no room for anyone else's input since Bob Rock. I think Rob is underutilized and I feel Kirk might actually feel that way about himself too. Maybe that's why he just goes to the studio, records the solos, and is home by dinnertime.
Sorry about the outburst, you just named my favorite band ever and I got excited lol
@@PatPosse yeah Queen is my number 1 favorite band too. I subbed to you originally because of that. I can never have enough Queen information, I know almost everything already but there is always small things that I can still learn about Queen. But yeah its hard to defend Metallica even though I love them, I don't understand how stans do it. Even with Queen I am still realistic. Maybe I can say that i am a little bit based on Adam but there is tons of factors to it so its just a little to maybe even not at all. And thats about it. I don't know what else to say other than most die hard Metallica fans are stupid 😂
Hahaha agreed my man! More queen content coming up soon! Do you follow me on Instagram? I just got a couple vinyls I was missing and I am getting close to owning all of them 😁
Congrats on the views for that video at least 😀
Yes! That was a good surprise 😁. Of course it was demonetized but at least I think I got on some new people’s radar! 💪🏻
You have a very very similar outlook and history with metallica as I do, and we look to be close to the same age. I think this album will be a grower on you if I HAD to guess, while I still understand completely if you don’t because we’re all different
I'm hoping it is man! Class of '05 here! Looking forward to this album after listening to the title track, that one brought back the faith lol! I've pre ordered it, hoping to get my hands on it on release day! Wish me luck!!
@@PatPosse do me a favor bro, look up loudwires “ 10 things we love about the new metallica album “ and it’s refreshing to hear them ( they put a lot of the newer stuff down until last album ) praise a lot of the awesome moments we’ve yet to hear . They say Kirk writes an actually great solo that’s over a minute long on “ you must burn “ and how the final track “ inamorata “ is 11.5 minutes, but never boring . They say it has some of their most somber yet beautiful Melodie’s / riffs on it . Made me a lot more hype as well after the title track. Sorry for the book, Lars and James both posted the article, so that’s how I found it 😂 you just reminded me to preorder mine
Melodies***
@@NoahParker98 Yes, I read that! That's pretty cool, then again, Loudwire reviews are very hit or miss (more miss than hit...) but we'll see!! I can't believe they put out an 11 minute long song! lol
Yo, this brother makes a lot of sense, whether you agree with him or not -- he ain't stupid. Respect.
Thank you Paul!! I appreciate the support 😁😁🤘🏻🤘🏻
The new songs make me happy , so, .....................😃😃😃
And we can use that these days.
There you go!! Awesome
@@PatPosse Thanks !
No problem! I’m happy someone likes all the songs and doesn’t need to lash out at me for criticizing them 😁
Right on, Pat! I just found your channel today and became a sub based on the two videos of yours that I watched. There’s something insidious about Metallica Fanboys… they’re easily triggered by honest criticism. It’s completely weird and foreign to me to take things that seriously that they go into full DEFCON 1 mode over an opinion.
FYI, I’m a guitarist too. Rhythm mostly and James Hetfield was one of my main influences. I agree about Kirk… I think he’s checked out and doesn’t really have a lot to add anymore. I thought he was a great guitarist when I was a kid in the 80s but, there are so many shredders that make him look amateurish these days. I still have respect for the guy, I’m just not going to go along with the lie that he’s the best guitarist ever, like a lot of fanboys like to claim all the time.
Thank you very much and welcome to the channel my dude! Yeah fanboys just can’t get their heads out of their asses for a change and accept some criticism. I don’t get it, they take it personal. It’s like, if someone criticizes my favorite band… hell! If they criticize my own band I don’t get all crazy like they do lol. Kirk and James were huge influences on me as well that’s why I’m so frustrated… glad some of you understand, these videos and channel are meant for people like you who can be objective and can deal with opposing views and see beyond that. Glad to see I’m not the only one out there lol. Thanks for your support, looking forward to seeing more of your comments! Hope you enjoy the content!
Nowadays everyone on RUclips doing reaction videos are "highly sophisticated critiques" to Metallica's music. Suddenly everyone has got the "knowledge" to discuss Metallica. Everyone is suddenly qualified.
I’ve been qualified for years I just didn’t have a channel to broadcast my knowledge on 😉
How about reacting to The Warning? Their first fame was their viral cover of 'Enter Sandman' in 2014 when they were 14, 12, and 9 years old, and they redid a cover which is on Metallica's _Blacklist_ album. Try 'Disciple', 'Evolve', and 'Animosity' to start, either music videos or the new live sessions at Teatro Metropolitan. The Teatro Met version of 'Enter Sandman' has a harder edge than the MV, too.
Definitely agree. the Warning latest live videos are explosive.
Disciple wasn't my favorite song on the album, then I watched Disciple Live and was blown away. Wow. 🔥
I’ll try to make a point to check them out! Thanks for the suggestion!
Yes, The Warning is amazing!
I love Metallica but let's be honest there better days are way past but I like the new stuff but I don't love it. But the older I get the more I love their older slower stuff like load and reload I have been listening to more lately. They need to go back to that and create more music like that it will fit James voice more, I'm just glad they are still kicking out new music.
I agree. Some good songs on Load and Reload... They definitely got more experimental with their sound and compositions then. Now it's a bit more predictable for the most part... That being said, I'm also glad they are still around. Thanks for commenting!
Met fan for more than 30 years, and I think you are 10000% right about your comments on objectivity and subjectivity. I also think it is BS that you are getting hate for having your own opinion. Being willing to open your mouth and give your opinion kinda the whole bedrock that metal is built on. Even some of Metallica’s weaker albums have had some gems that I love (Fuel is actually my personal fave song of theirs). I am expecting this album is going to have probably 2-4 songs I just won’t like and will almost never listen to after having heard them, 2-4 songs that I think are okay and can handle hearing, and then 4-6 songs that I actually really love. And 6 is overly optimistic for that.
Hi buddy, thanks for the support and I agree 100% that's why I don't care if I get hate from some random fanboys, most people who understand what metal is all about (such as yourself) have been very supportive, and ultimately those are the people and viewers I care about, so fuck 'em all! hahaha I'm with you, I think maybe 4 I'll actually love, 6 will be ok and the rest will be "meh". Hope to be wrong! I am already worried about the 12 minute song......... 🤦♂
Completely agree man! Great video
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!!
As an old school fan, this is probably one of their best tracks they’ve ever written. Hit me with the 3’rd time but Gotta say Hetfiled’s parts are AMAZING! His voice is great! And yes the mixing is great
Oh yeah his vocals are spot on!!
Which song ? I love em all for different reasons, but you talking bout the new title track or IDHAS
@@NoahParker98 I think he was referring to Darkness...
@@NoahParker98 all 4 of them 🤘🏽🤘🏽
@@PainterSonic there you go!
This video should be called: Pat spitting out facts about Metallica
Seriously, I can tell that most of these haters in the comments obviously never bothered to listen to any other band beside Metallica
Haha thanks Man, I tried! 😁 glad you enjoyed it 💪🏻. And yes, fuck ‘em all!
YOU ARE PHENOMENAL PAT.... I LOVE YOU!!!!!!! 🎸🖤🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🖤🖤
Thank you Daniela! I can always count on your comment to bring a smile to my face! 😁
Sign of the times, nobody's got any mojo, no magic
It sure does seem that way sometimes…
I'm a Metallica fan and appreciate most of their stuff, but I am no musician. I have taken some guitar lessons and have a new respect for the amount of work that goes into a song, even a crappy one. I could never argue a person's talent. Only another musician can recognize that. You mentioned that Kirk was the weakest link as of late. He just finished up a solo project recently and he may need a creative break. I still respect the hell outta him. And props for calling people out on their illogical statements. Huevos grande, dude.
Thanks my man! I try to keep it light and breezy, after all we are all here to have fun and enjoy music! But this was a bit too much and I guess I needed to vent. Lol. That being said, I don’t remember if I said it on the other video (or it might have been a reply to a comment) but I agree that Kirk’s EP was an attempt at a creative outlet. I was hoping that would fire him up and inspire him some more but it seems like it hasn’t. Maybe it was a hint at he not being in a Metallica mindset anymore… we’ll see how it all unfolds. Kirk is definitely a talented guy and I wish he finds it in himself to unleash his full potential again, be it in Metallica or some other project. 🤘🏻
This youtuber is pussy. No knowledge. No years under his belt. Go fuck you boypussy
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 I've been listening to Metal for over 25 years and playing metal for over 15, I got more years under my belt that your mom's milage. Speaking of pussies, how is she?
Always support Metallica 🔥🤘😎
As long as they are pumping out good stuff, yes! Of course I'll purchase this album also so I can critic it with facts!
I don't hate Metallica; I'm actually one of their original fans and used to go see them as well as Slayer and Suicidal Tendencies at much smaller venues in the Los Angeles area when they were considered local bands when I was a teenager in the early 80's growing up in Huntington Park California (where Slayer started out). The thing is; I was also one of the fans who felt that they would never be as good after Cliff died and kind of put them on the back burner after that because I/we felt like they were becoming sellouts. Unfortunately I was pretty young and stupid to be so critical back then, but over the years I have expanded my appreciation for music and allowing myself to listen to many bands that I used to make fun of back then. Another thing I've noticed is that their newer music is far easier to figure out and play than the music they wrote during the first 10 years of their career. I mean, in about the last 8 years I've actually been able to easily pickup and play any of the newer songs I've heard from them pretty much instantaneously. Now this could just mean that I have simply progressed a lot after 42 years of playing guitar, or it could be that they just aren't as inspired and motivated in their creativity as they were back in their early days and are now just recycling most of the licks from the last 30 years because they're unable to progress in their creativity and have become too comfortable after 30 years of wealth and success which does have a tendency to soften a person up and make them forget where they originally came from.
Sad to say I would probably lean towards your second guess there… (not that you haven’t progressed in 42!!) but I’m sure it would still take you a while to figure out all of the nuances in master of puppets or and justice for all…
I agree, they got simple and straight forward which is not necessarily a bad thing but yeah… definitely a more commercial approach. What do you think of the song they released today?
About the Hardwired Kirk's work... His best solo on that album is in my opinion on "Am I Savage?"....I don't like that song really, but that breakdown, crunch and solo are something most memorable on that album for me at least... I have to say I loved Kirk's solo EP "Portals"... But he should've been more invested in Metallica as he is the integral part of the band and their sound...
Kirk's work was not great on Hardwired but the songs were ok for the most part and that made up for it.. also he had an "excuse" and we bought it....His EP I thought was going to be a good outlet and I hoped he would come back to Metallica with a fresh mindset. That was not the case....
You've earned a subscriber sir
Thank you very much ! Welcome to the channel, I hope you enjoy the content 😁🤘🏻
But none of the things you listed as objective are objective. If someone likes a solo it isn't a bad solo, subjectively. If someone actually enjoys the full 7 minutes of like 3 riffs or whatever the song actually has that's also good song writing, subjectively. We can talk about the objective facts of the song structure, but whether or not those things are good or not isn't objective; though I guess they can be objectively unconventional. Like, it's not conventional for a song to spend the first nearly minute and a half peddling between 2 very simplistic musical ideas rooted in the same chord as If Darkness Had A Son does, and if your only standard for quality is convention than I guess you'd have a point. However, at no point is it ever established here (or anywhere, really) that this was the criteria.
For the record, I did not see your last video (this is the first time youtube put you in my feed, hi.) and most definitely didn't downvote it. I respect your views whatever they may be. My contention isn't personal. It's that faux-objective nonsense gets on my tits. Without an axiomatic criteria of quality for which to measure the objective traits to there are no meaningful claims to objective quality. HOWEVER; even then I'd be hesitant to say that that would constitute objectivity since your axiomatic criteria will differ from someone else's; and if the band isn't trying to fit your specific criteria than it can't be considered an objective failure for not meeting that criteria anyway. Objectively speaking a lime isn't an apple. That doesn't mean limes are bad, unless your criteria for "bad" is "not an apple". That is why I think your claims like "It's way too long" don't necessarily ring truly objective. It's "too long" for what exactly; and why are we using whatever that thing is as the standard of quality? This is never established. "It's a little bit too repetitive" for what exactly, and why is that thing the assumed indicator of objective quality? Again, never established. Also, by whatever those metrics are, would you then also say that purposefully slow styles like drone metal, funeral doom, no-wave, and sleep drone are objectively bad since they bank on slow repetition? Can an entire genre of music be bad simply because it fails to meet an arbitrary metric it never tried to accomplish anyway? Seems absolutely silly to me.
Hey man! First of all, thanks for respectfully disagreeing and explaining your concerns here. First of all, yes, a lot of this was sort of explained on the previous video, objective in this sense would be within the canons of a well produced, effective metal song, meaning that for example, a song would be too long and repetitive for the genre and what a listener expects. That being said and having read your comment and explanation, I think your point is as valid as mine. The way I see it, Objectively speaking, Black Sabbath's Black Sabbath is a song that's WAY too repetitive. Subjectively speaking, however, the song rules and it's one of the darkest, most awesome, metal songs!. The fact that someone subjectively likes Black Sabbath (or this song) doesn't not take away from the fact that a song is too repetitive. A 7 minute song with 3 main riffs that repeat themselves over and over for most of it is objectively a repetitive song. Of course, art (and thus music) is subjective and we may fall in love with said repetitiveness. This is why we must leave our feelings behind in order to objectively analyze a song. I'll be the first one to tell you I love some songs that are objectively simple and hate some songs that are objectively complex. Hope this clears up what I meant.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
The album should be called QUIET QUITTING or CASH GRAB ONLY.
Damn! Harsh words from Mike!! You are not entirely wrong though.. 😋
I think they are completely drained as a metal band, the only reason for producing this album I can think of is the fact that everyone was waiting for the new record, they write under such pressure, and I respect that they keep going, but this is real sad.
The worst part that they can't separate, I would love to see James in some other setting, he writes great music.
Solo is awful tho, like plain, unseasoned rice. I hope Kirk will retire and give someone who can actually write guitar music a chance to bring new flavor to this stagnant, corporate, and sad husk of a band.
I really was looking forward for hetfield-mustaine collaboration, but things are not looking good, mustaine still writes great material, kinda lame that james still can't step over themself, would be great end to their music journey, they would play together, at last
They have a so much potential to support upcoming metal musicians by features, touring, just by their presence, experience, and connections. They really can bring the metal scene back to mainstream, if they wanted to do so, like motorhead, ozzy, alice cooper, give new bands a shot, but they are delusional and think that they will make another decent album, what a waste.
Sadly you make some great points and I don’t think the James-Dave merge will happen. I hope it turns though… I mean, kirk made a solo album.. why couldn’t James do it?
The solo in If Darkness had a son isn't that bad. It's a bit long and uses the pentatonic scale and is over-drenched in wah, but That's what Kirk has been doing every since Load or arguably, the black album. The riff underneath the solo changes a bunch of times, and the drums and guitar at one point, play a half-time tempo, which is probably why the solo had to be that long. I wasn't too impressed the first couple times listening to the song, but after repeated listens, I can kind of see what he was going for with that solo. It still takes lots of talent to play a solo like that, even if it's not as amazing as the solos on the first five albums.
I mean… you have to be able to play guitar 🤷🏻♂️. But it’s average at best 😣😣
@@PatPosse Sure, it pales in comparison to some of the amazing solos he's done in the past, but he's getting old now. Also, it seems like he improvises his solos now, Greg Fidelman keeps the best take, and he learns how to play it live afterwards.
@@Constant_Threat It's for sure improvised, you can tell there's not even a thought or idea for a melody behind it. He's just doing enough to get by at this point. Greg needs to grow a pair and push him to bring his best performance forward! Being old has nothing to do with it, look at Megadeth, Testament and many others... same age, and they still shred! (or at least they try to!). Even if "shredding" is beyond his abilities now (it's not, he's on fire live) at least come up with a good melodic solo or something... I don't know, that's just me.
@@PatPosse exactly, and well said. They need a producer that can challenge them. I’ve listened to the singles a lot and they get more and more disappointing.
@@phadrus Oh no! I was hoping they'd grow on me! Just uploaded a new reaction video on 72 seasons (the song) let's see what people think of it...
There's nothing worse when fans turn to sheep.
Totally
No one has ever pushed Hammett harder than Bob Rock...Period. 5th member 1984! 4Life! As a fan for almost 4years. But every body has a choice to what ever chapter they want to like. My own opinion. 'Tallica4life....I could honestly said I am satisfied with Metallica. I've had my ride on the Tallica train since 84...cliff, newsted, Trujillo...live 1986 before cliff accident in Las Cruces, NM...90's era all around the southwest.....World Magnetic tour Albuquerque, Nm. I can go on and on..so I'm good. I'm no one to judge as long you love Tallica as much as I do...who cares about what others say bro. Keep rockin'..🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻☠☠☠
Thank you brother!! Love the support ! I’m jealous you got to see Cliff!! Must have been awesome… my first Metallica concert was in 99… Eb flat tuning, short hair and eyeliner. 🤦🏻♂️
It’s because the whole song is just a jumble of riffs spliced together aimlessly meandering for 7 mins.... Frankly Hammett’s solo is just a reflection of the song....
I agree. Riff salad tossed about and an abysmal solo… just a crap cocktail… 🤦🏻♂️
Also, James Hetfield's lyrics let these songs down, they are repetitive single-word rhymes strung together, there's no strong narrative that takes hold of your imagination.
True. They are not what they used to be…
I agree. I thought that his solo on this album sucked. Vs megadeth new album dude, it's sick! Bob Rock was saying and asking the same thing from kirk. Do your homework. My dog ate my homework is bs
Hahaha my dog ate my homework is the worst! I will definitely do a track by track battle between this album and The Sick, the dying and the dead. So far Megadeth takes it if you ask me!
@@PatPosse that's a great idea. I think you should. Kiko is really doing some better stuff and mustaine rhythm work and lyrics are on point of the world today. I mean there are some filler songs but there are 4 songs from the new megadeth album that is great.
Totally! I was lucky enough (“lucky” I had to go through hell and back, lol) to actually have the CD on release day and I have listened to it a few times but I should definitely revisit it! I hope to be able to do the same with Tallica’s! We’ll see…
@Pat Posse absolutely. Great content. Hope your channel grows! I am looking forward to the next conversation and video.
Thank you buddy!! Me too!! Giving it my all at this point.. 😁😁
I have watched your previous video where you discussed about new Metallica song and indeed uninspired Kirk's solo.
Im totally sharing your opinion. Sorry to Metallica and all the fans but from a musician's perspective this new album is disaster. This entire story about their new album looks to me like they were forced to release something new. However Metallica is still my favorite bend and they will be always number one.
Cheers! 🤘
Thanks man! I appreciate your support! I am glad you are not of those fanboys that take any criticism to the band as a personal attack. I love 'tallica too but this album is a huge let down to me so far. I hope they got some bangers up their sleeve though!
Forced by who? They have their own record label. No one tells them what to do anymore.
@@AndDeathForAll82 You got a point there...
Haters gonna hate I guess. I think only people who didn't achieve something in life they can be proud on like to put other people down for no reason. Happy and grateful people never do something like that. And you can see how little they know about you when they don't even knew you're a guitarist 😂
Hahaha I’ve got a long way to go man! Hopefully one day they will know I play guitar (even though it’s on my profile pic lol) thanks for watching and commenting brother, means a lot!!
Brilliant video and commentary Pat. You've intelligently stated your position, called out the haters who hate out of their stupid ignorance, and justified your opinion from a musical skill and logical perspective. Good thing you didn't mention how Puppets and Lightning are sped up as Hetfield and Hammett took the accolades and applause for years until the secrets were revealed. Looks like their downpicking 'Gods' right hand is made of clay...
Thanks Mike! I tried to keep the debate somewhat respectful, lol. I understand points of views are different and people may like things I don't but, it doesn't seem like they can understand such a simple concept, lol. Bit of catharsis doesn't hurt anyone right? The down-picking thing to me is not a big deal, they did play the songs live and kept up with speed then, I guess they needed the Magic of the Studio to keep it nice and tight though! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@PatPosse nothing but respect Pat, I'd like to see Kirk attempt deeds of flesh. The best down picker in their band may have been Jason who kept up on bass at the correct speed!
Hahaha Nice!! Deeds of Flesh rules!! You've seen that cover I've done on this channel right?
@@PatPosse Yes I have Pat you did a brilliant job! Craig Peters is a super good guitarist, so is the guy from Unmerciful
Thanks man! I appreciate it 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Is your hard truth doesn't mean that is truth
Music theory's objectivity backs me up.
I'm completely with you man!... i like most of their albums. Hetfield is one of the greatest guys in Metal, imo, but what i heard so far - 3 Songs from the new album - is the weakest, uninspired, und just plain generic sounding stuff i've ever heard from them. i can hardly believe that this is the stuff that they want the world to hear... but to each their own. besides, i need my metal dose every day, so its probably the occasional metal listener who might find stuff like this exciting...
I agree completely though, do listen to the title track if you haven’t yet, it’s the 1 track out of the 4 I actually enjoyed… a lot of Metallica’s stuff seems to be metal for non-metal listeners and a lot of their advocates and people doing praise reactions on RUclips are also people who are not into metal or that haven’t been listening to metal a long time… then comes Pat with the criticism and the sheep get triggered. This generation man, I’ll tell ya…
@@PatPosse haha oh man... dont listen to them. Ok i will try some other songs, i heard the last 2 songs on the new album should be good. but i don't know... greetings from austria though! stay Metal!
Hahaha no worries, if I care about what haters said I wouldn’t be on RUclips 🤣🤣. People disliking you and commenting negatively is a sign of growth! That means your video is not only being shown to people who usually watch your videos 😁. One day I’ll make it to Europe.. I swear!
There's nothing to talk about. You either like it or you don't. Your tastes and opinions are not universal.
Nope but music theory is 😉
Your so right about everything 100 %true I love Metallica I have all of there albums on cds too rock on forever legends ❤️🤘🎶🎸♥️
Thank you Paula! Let’s hope for a great album or a swift change in the right direction 💪🏻🤘🏻
I love the new stuff, but I respect your opinion. You presented it well, and proved that you come from a place of love for the band.
As for the “special set of balls” to say no to Metallica. There’s only one. Bob Rock.
Thank you brother. That’s what it’s all about!
Yeah Kirk just does not have that oomph so far. James sounds great though.
Totally! I second this. Kirk did good on the title track... I guess we'll find out how good or bad it all is soon enough!
I'm going out on a limb by saying that I fucking love this song and the entire vibe I'm getting off this new album. Music is definitely subjective and not everyone will like everything Metallica puts out. Kirk doesn't play like Marty Friedman but his solos fit well in each Metallica song. Could the song have been trimmed? I don't think so.
No? Really? Nothing is too long or repetitive? Man! I’d kill for your patience hahaha. He is definitely not Marty but listen to the newest song (if you haven’t yet). He actually put out a good solo!!!
Lol I would be wrong if I said nothing was repetitive.
@@bradbaker1321 😁😁😁😁 Takes balls to accept it. I like you already 💪
Huge Metallica fan and I agree with you... These last two singles sound more commercial, and it sounds like Kirk didn't put much effort really. If Darkness had a son, first of all sounds like a wierd title... 😅 It is dragged way too long for what it is.. It should've been cut down to 4- 5 minutes and it would be more decent as a commercal radio song like on the black album...
Yes, way too long and repetitive. I also blame the producer for that... you gotta have the balls to tell them "hey guys... this isn't ...And Justice for All... we can't justify 7 minutes of this...
I blame Bob Rock for the downfall of Metallica. His first record was the Black album and then their catalog goes to crap after that, at least going by the standards they set in the 80's where every album is in someone's top 10 metal album list. Aside from all the crying in their homemade movie, he was the one telling him how great they sounded when everyone in my living room was trashing them about how bad they sounded. Load really wasn't that bad, but its faults lay in the hands of the fans and the band. The band wanted to try something new. Fine. I remember it came out in the summer of '96 when metal was dying. All of a sudden on the radio one day, the DJ says, "New Metallica, 5pm! Tonight! Be here!" We waited all day just to hear "Until it Sleeps." Not a bad song, but we wanted something heavy because there was nothing out there. Pantera had the "Great Southern Trendkill" out at the time, but few radio stations had the balls to play their music. Looking back, the sheer amount of backlash was unfair to the band and overkill, but the band said "Fuck You" to their fans and it was never the same. I remember a year or two later and Re-Load was on the horizon, and everyone was like, "Maybe Re-Load means they'll be heavy again!" Nope, doubled down on their alternative sound and a record that honestly, sucked. I haven't listened to a single record of theirs since. Then the Napster issue a year later, etc. Then the movie with them crying all the time, wiping their eyes with hundred dollar bills. It showed how out of touch they became from everyone. Trujillo's bass audition was killer though. A few years ago, Kirk was talking about his house being on fire and sending his wife into the blazes to get a few guitars. He sent his wife. Wow.
Rant over. *Hands soapbox to the next person*
Hahaha!! Although I agree that after Bob Rock Metallica drastically changed their sound, I can't agree that he was the downfall necessarily. In fact, I think he made Metallica the best they could be (production and sound-wise). Them albums would have been way worse if not for him pushing their sound and playing to their limits.
That being said, I OF COURSE enjoy the first 4 albums over everything else they've done...
@@PatPosse Maybe. Regarding Bob Rock. Personally, I think their sound died with Cliff Burton. Assuming what I heard about him is true in that he was the music theory guy in the band.
@@jeremymiller6933 He was in fact the only member who understood music theory!
Maybe Kirk does have an impediment or medical issue. In the last decade or so, I've noticed when he's interviewed he sounds like he's constricted somehow. Like his face is made of really hard rubber and it's hard to talk. Maybe his whole body, including his fingers are like that. Maybe it's simply getting old. Who knows and metallica has blown royal goats since Justice. I really think that the fidelity of their tone, the quality of their writing, their choice of instruments and pickups, amps and effects is third rate at best since 1988. They should have went back to Flemming Rasmussen after Bob Rock corrupted their minds.
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I like Metallica....but that song sucks! Man I just realized I've been listening to Metallica since I was 10. That was 1990...wtf! Tbh I dont think they should even be making new music. Just play the great songs we all enjoy. Slipknot should stop while they're ahead too. I love em but they arent coming up with anything catchy or substantial anymore either.
I mean... I do like the fact that they still come up with new stuff... They just need a nudge in the right direction. A producer that can set them straight...
I have to agree about Kirk's solos. They all sound the same. Chaotic and frenzied with too much wha pedal. I'd love to hear James work with other guitarists.
There was talk of a James/Dave collaboration but that seems to have gone south sadly. That would have been interesting to say the least…
All you said is 100% true i love Metallica but they need to push Kirk to be better in the same way Lars was so critized that he actually take seriously and he star practice we see him live in recents shows we noticed he is better now because he listen all the comments and he push himself to sound better is not a technical drummer but he always is very intellligent to write the drums on metallica songs sale way Kirk should put more effort and more collabs on the album im sure the rest of the songs are way better i like the 3 so far but not as a máster piece i came from your newest video and you enjoy 72 seasons thats a great song so that is frwsh air of hope because i know there are somo good songs there
Totally dude! I hope this is the first of many better songs on this album!!
Couldn't agree more with you, song shoud be shorter and solo more inspiring and would be a great listen!
Yes! It’s a shame really.. let’s see how it pans out live and in the context of an album… but just tweaking a few details would have improved it so much…
I agree they need a tough producer. That tells them it’s crap. Greg does a good job, but he is too nice to them. Hardwired so far is better than this one just cause the songs are too long and repetitive. Don’t need to hear the chorus 4xs. Sometimes they don’t need solos. They’re just doing it now to satisfy fans.
Greg acts like a fan, not a producer. That's not what they need...
I think Lux A is good but not impressed by next couple tracks. Liked a few songs off Hardwired esp Spit out the Bone. Totally dug the first 3 songs off Death Magnetic. I forced myself to try and like the Black album, still really like Holier than Thou though. For me, nothing tops the first 4 albums.
Holier than thou is a great song! I actually popped in the Black Album for the first time in a decade probably while editing this video. Killer sound, solid album. Not their best but good nonetheless !
*Every single new Metallica track I've heard from 72 Seasons has been TRASH. Weak riffs, boring chugging, soft sound. Definitely not for me.* 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
I actually dig the title track. We’ll see what (if) they got up their sleeves
I have all of them and fan from kill'em all forever
Nice!! Glad to see there’s still some real fans out there! 🤘🏻
The new album seems pretty disappointing so far. Hammett is tone deaf at this point and probably suffering arthritis or something. None of the guys were ever "Virtuoso" level, but as a whole, they were serviceable and made some incredible stuff. But it seems like they've checked out. Whether because of weariness or age catching up with them, they just aren't in it anymore it seems.
Sadly, I feel the same way. They were a killer band at one point but they seem to not have that same anger, violence, thirst, hunger… call it what you will, they ain’t got it. They can still put out some good tracks (72 seasons, Atlas, rise, spit out the bone…) but it’s not the same it was.
Some of Kirk's solos just drive me crazy. He can be totally awesome to mediocre in the same solo. I'm not at the level of Kirk in my guitar playing (well, not too far off if I tried, I'm more of a melodic Gilmour guy) but I have an ear for what works and what doesn't. He leaves stuff on songs that I definitely wouldn't. I can tell when he plays run of notes that doesn't work in the key they are in. Take "Sad but True" for example, the solo is totally awesome until the band modulates up to the IV chord (or whatever they do, I don't know theory) at which point the solo loses steam and becomes a discordant mess to my ears with Kirk playing in the wrong mode at times. The entire solo should have stayed in the original key. The solo to "Unforgiven" on the other hand rocks all the way through.
I agree 100% a lot of times he’d do dissonant runs that make no sense just to add some fast runs into it. I wish he would just buckle down and work on the soloes like he did on unforgiven. One of his best for sure!
Whammett did his best solos on AJFA, but that was over 30 fkn years ago!
Ulrich and his fills; rat-a-tat-a-tat-a-tat, Jesus Christ, that may have worked on Sad But True, but again that was over 30 years ago. He plays the same fill all the time.
Lazy lazy lazy.
They definitely reached their musical and technical peak then.
I'm with you. I'm not impressed with this new album so far.
Only song I kinda liked was the title track so far…
They were losing money from the rehabs and plagues and they are old,it happens though.
Hahaha. Being old is relative though… look at Lemmy, the guys on Testament or even Ellefson still kicking ass and they are roughly the same age…
@@PatPosse that's correct
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I always enjoyed "Frayed ends of Sanity" by Metallica more than some of their other songs.
Wow. I don’t hear that often… nice!
Me too, I love that song... I loved when Rob pushed them to play that song live for the first time ever... 😅
@@Shiljamannn haha remember!? that was cool!
Aye it's subjective and one's own opinion. I love all 4 songs. Though I would say that you said some things are objective. I disagree. The last 2 songs are not too long..in my opinion 🤘✌🔥🔥
Darkness is not too long?? You must have a lot of patience 🤣. Good for you man! Enjoy 🤘🏻🤘🏻
You have Lulu....?
Yup. I’m a completist but it’s still factory sealed! 🤣
Well.... it's a grower indeed. But, I'll never like it as much as Hardwired. I'm pretty fn sure of that.
After 3 listens, it's OK. There's parts that are good. James is doing some interesting stuff. But it's mostly droning on and on.
My thoughts exactly after the same amount of listens…
i love metallica but i really don't like their current direction. to me it sounds very stock and standard. that's just my opinion though.
Yes, my thoughts precisely. I liked the title track and the key changes in it but other than than...
I prefer to hear Lil Wayne playing his solo than Kirk's solo in that if darkness had a son crap solo, honestly
HAHAHAHAHA YES!!!!
Eah member of the band is worth no less than 200 MILLION dollars. They can rake in a million dollars per show. Kirk sucks? I do not think so I think he is just bored. He was taught by Joe Satriani.
Never said he sucked. In fact, I KNOW he can do better! if money is not an incentive anymore, and Metallica is not doing it for you, just call it quits… find a creative outlet.. let James solo 🤷🏻♂️. Lots of way to save face. This is just sad.
Bring back Bob Rock, I dont like the tone of the new 3 songs so far. this album so like left over songs from hardwired but not as good.. thanks for speaking the truth Pat
Thank you brother!! After all the hate I was hesitant to make this video but then I said, screw it, and went for it! Apparently people still appreciate the truth 😁🤘🏻. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@PatPosse You can't really frame your opinion as "the truth". Your perspective is as subjective as anyone else's.
@@Macca15 Nope, straight up FACTS here. You might just not be ready to hear them...
@@PatPosse I'm not sure you understand what a fact is. Opinions are not facts. Saying Metallica's last 3 albums are not good is not a fact. That's a subjective opinion.
Ascertain the difference between the two.
@@Macca15 I've never said that... big fan of Hardwired...
Metallica is MY favourite band and yet I full agree that new stuff is really subpar and under-developed. Lux Eterna is kind of catch and good song, with nice tempo and energy, and then Kirk goes in and just mashes his guitar strings. Thats it. I dont have any high hopes that the rest of the album will stand out in any way
The only hope I have for this upcoming album is that the prove me wrong. I am with you. I am NOT excited about this album at all!
I stopped listening to them when the black album came out. Moved onto other bands that were young and hungry.
I get that big time. They definitely steered away from rage and speed towards something way more mainstream and “accesible” to everyone…
@@PatPosse And they did the right thing. It opened them up to a much wider audience. And I can't fault them for that.
I met all of them in 1987 at a club in San Francisco called the stone right after Jason joined. They were there that night to support Flotsam and Jetsam. And Kirk signed my jacket.
Nice! What a great experience that must have been!
The album would have been better if kirk actually put some passion into his solos. It feels very generic and "going thru the motions" to me
One thousand percent!
Yeah, very objectively there is repetition and things that have been done before. Kirks solos, as a whole, are not melodic or creatively unique these days.
Again, you can't say that. It's a crime. Precious, precious Metallica, can't be judged. If you judge, you're a hater.
Hahah note to self: Metallica shan’t be judged. Judge not lest ye be judged yourself! 😉
They need a provocative producer. They need someone to say no. Bob Rock by all accounts was a pain the in ass to work with but he squeezed the best out of them
Exactly. Now it seems like anything they do is "good enough" and we all know they can do better!
This new new album is nice to hear, but unlike the older stuff, its forgettable. For me, treeenos nothing thay really sticks out.
I agree 100%!!
It's truly not good. Black Album was great, but have went down hill since. There are decent songs on load and reload.
I agree buddy! Some cool songs on both albums although I do prefer Load over Reload (by a landslide…)
Let's google who you are. Dan found a few videos. So the stammering here qualifies you to criticize Kirk? Are you serious?
ruclips.net/video/DXjYjuga3bo/видео.html
Your death metal squeaking or the fast downing of the pentatonics should be something now? Tastes are one thing, I agree with you, but anyone who scratches such an amateur dares to publish, should be careful with statements about a guitarist he can't even match.
And then you wonder about the answers under your video? But the real reason for the millions of reactions on RUclips is that you can generate clicks with the popularity of an artist. In case of negative criticism usually much more,
HAHAHA you have obviously never picked up an instrument if you can't tell that that riff is far more technical than anything Kirk has ever put out. I understand if you are too much of a wimp for Death Metal but don't be ignorant...
I massively respect and like Metallica but man, there new songs from this album are just generic cliche thrash riffs that have been played 1000 times in the past by about every thrash band in the 80s, just sound uninspired, infact alot of the riffs there ripping off are there own
That’s my point. I’m also a Metallica fan but I think we should be able to freely criticize them if needed. This last song was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me… they will release a song tomorrow supposedly. I haven’t heard any of the teasers so I can have a fresh set of ears and have a genuine reaction to it on the video tomorrow. I’m crossing my fingers but honestly, I’m not too thrilled. Hoping to be wrong though!
@@PatPosse yeah very true just because your a fan of the band doesn't meen you have to like all the music or can't have a say on it, I heard the teaser abit earlier, it's obviously only very short but I had the same feeling about it as the other songs released, abit generic, hopefully the full song surprises me too in a good way
We can only hope bud! We’ll see tomorrow 😁😁
To be honest with you, I was bored after the intro then very bored after Kirks solo.....👎❤
I can understand that completely! It just goes on forever. My favorite riff on the song is featured the least… maybe that’s why I dug it lol. Kirk’s solo… atrocious.
Now that the album is out, I have to admit I can't get past the first 2 songs. Too long. It's not interesting or inspired. Forgettable
I agree… I should be getting my copy tomorrow. We’ll see if spinning it on my hifi makes it better… hahah
no one wants to listen to affluent rappers ,pop stars or metal music --
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fact 1 load and reload is mainstream soft , boring , commercial crap....new album is like water beer!
Haha not a fan huh? 🤣.
@@PatPosse only fan of first 5 cds!
Gotcha! It’s understandable indeed! 🤘🏻
@@PatPosse well i fan of true thrash not eyeliner
Eyeliner sucks! Not gonna lie…
Metallica. The safest band at airports. Because they haven’t set off a metal detector since 1989.
They exist for nostalgia fans or the soft kids who like rock because of things like stranger things.
Metallica went from a metal band to a rock band.
Bottom line you dig it cool. No one gives a shit and if you don’t that’s cool too. So many people have a weird sycophantic devotion to them though.
Hahahaha!!! That was an awesome line! Yeah they are definitely a Rock/Hard Rock/metal band but they are straying farther from their thrash days by the minute. Nothing wrong with that, but definitely different!
Bwaahahhhaaaahhaaaa that’s the best one liner ever… honestly I quit enjoying Metallica once they ran out out of Mustaines material 😂
@@misterknightowlandco haha yeah it was great!!!
Hammett is overrated.
I agree. Much of his fame comes from the fact that he is part of the biggest band in Heavy Metal but there’s tons of better guitar players out there. That being said though, he did record some of the most iconic solos in Metal’s history !
@Pat Posse Yes!! Think about it for a second, if he had stayed in Exodus, few people would know who he was, and I doubt he would've stood out. Metallica should've teamed up with a better drummer and lead guitarist back in the late 80s early 90s. I prefer megadeth over metallica, and I would like to see Hetfield and Mustaine with a good drummer and bass player!!
He might have gotten kicked out at this point lol!
@@PatPosse most likely 😆
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