Let's Install a Glass Shower Door
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- Опубликовано: 3 ноя 2023
- Today I'm installing a Delta prefab glass shower door in my new custom shower. Using a prefab glass door will save you $1000's on materials. These are available at your local Home Depot or Lowes. Watch this entire bathroom renovation 👉🏼 • This Bathroom Renovati...
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Thank you so much for what you do. I'm 77 and enjoy watching you do the things I need to do. In many cases, like maybe this one, I'm still able to tackle the projects, but in other cases your videos put me in a better position to discuss a project with someone I might hire to do the job. Either way your videos help me with my own projects. Thank you.
A real pleasure to watch this knowledgeable fellow!
Jeff, the bathroom you have done, sir, is A-Mazing, Sir! I've watched You for Years and have learned so much from you! Thank you for sharing your knowledge,wisdom, and understanding! God Bless You and Your Family!
Thanks for this series! I own an already remodeled home but I still watch your videos! 🤷♂️ Cheers!
thank you for the video. I'm doing two of these on Monday morning. This was very helpful.
Thank you Jeff!! Getting to work on our home so when these rates drop we can make bank here in Colorado.
I've truly learned so much from you. Finding a contractor that's 1. Not a scam artist, 2. Is licensed 3. Is even remotely affordable in Colorado is impossible.
But I'm handy and my hubby is a Jack of all trades so we're good! I hope! 😊
Having a glass shower door is a game changer for anyone who has never used one
I'm just re-doing my bathroom (Edmonton, 1954 home) extremely helpful~ thank you!
Glad it was helpful! Cheers to Edmonton!
Shower series went from you retiring because of the previous nightmare installation to a beautiful shower.
Great job! You make it look TOO EASY.
Finally ordered some long nib/ deep hole pens for marking things like this and love them!
Lol been following you for years, straight to the point
I've used a spray bottle to continuously spray the drill bit with cool water when I'm using a tile bit. Drills through the tile much quicker and saves your bit from over heating.
Hi Jeff! Met you on the plane and you were the coolest. I said I saw you on TikTok but I’ve been following you on YT 😂
The plastic bushing that you install in glass for wheel housing is actually to keep the glass from hanging on a metal screw.
The wife and i did this. Used the tile drill bit to prep the install. It weighed a ton.
Thx Jeff
I'm really enjoying your series on the reno of this property. You truly are blessing that old trailer with a "real home" feel that will serve someone very well!
I think the reasoning behind putting silicone in the screw holes is to keep the water which will absolutely get behind that track from finding those gaps and pushing into the wall? Without the silicone, you have an unobstructed path into your wood through that hole. The tight fit of the metal against the tile means there will be some capillary action going on as well, making that water stand in the gap longer, giving it more of a chance to make its way down that screw to the wood. Once the water makes it all the way to the wood, then that wood grain will suck the water up like a straw.
It certainly isn't as serious as a full-on leak, but it does mean that moisture will make it into the wood that otherwise would be blocked by the silicone. Of course, if there is no waterproofing behind someone's tile then it would be the least of the problems a shower could have.
He has a huge hole behind the faucet cover, right below the shower head, and there isn't a single layer of waterproofing there. So I think the screw holes are the smallest problem here ;)
@@tomaskot9278 In the video where he installs the faucet and shower head, he points out that the faucet cover has two gaskets for water diversion.
@@mratowles Yes, I know, you are right. But during the series he also says multiple times that one water diversion or proofing method is not enough and you should combine them. How well are the gaskets going to work on such uneven tiles, even with a grout line (albeit at the bottom)? And for how long is the rubber (I guess those are rubber gaskets) going to retain its elasticity? In my country we are not building houses from wood (usually), so water is not such a huge thread, but even so we always add sleeves around any faucet or pipe going through the water-proofing layer. The sleeve becomes an integral part of the water-proofing.
"This has a very sharp tip so it doesn't run very much" *Drill bit wanders into the next video*
user error. LOL Cheers!
Looks incredible! I'd love to see exactly how much in cost for the bathroom. I bet you added 3x as much value as you spent to the home with that reno.
Thanks so much, Jeff. I love your videos and watch them as they come out, mainly to learn what to avoid doing. Super helpful. By the way, when are you due?
13:30 this is why they give the wall anchors haha
I have learned so much from your channel. From taking bits and pieces from your different bath project videos it gave me the confidence to gut my entire bathroom. (I am handy and a DIYer for everything on/in my house). You really shouldn't down play or joke about reading the instructions. I installed those doors and all the hardware was spot on. The screws, perfect if you used/installed Delta's Alcove enclosures. As for the door rollers, Delta had a note in that packaging stating for you to discard the metal rollers and use the black plastic ones. Those 2 sets of rollers didn't come in the same box, one was in the frame box and the other in the doors box. The assumption is the metal ones damaged to many glass doors and were outdated. It's a good practice to read the instruction before any installation even if its accounting for all parts if one has used the product before. Loved the install but did laugh as you commented on the parts.
I agree about reading the instructions, but Delta should just not include the old metal rollers, and they should include screws that are going to work across a wide variety of installations (2" or 2.5")
Great video. Thanks
Hey Jeff, from the UK. Ive found using a masonry bit (slow speed, water to cool, no hammer action) works just as well. Also, masking tape over the mark stops skipping when starting the drilling, or a tungsten carbide tipped scriber worked in by hand to make a mark in the glaze works well. What are your thoughts? All the best!
Yup. I use painters tape to stop the but wandering.
Hi Jeff, how did you handle the light box hole into the shower? Your vids are great! Thank you!
MAAX has the same issue, they supply 1.5 inch screws. So before installing the doors I went ahead and bought 2.5 inch stainless steel screws so they reach the wood framing.
Hey I just installed that exact tile!
great video, it really helped, than k you so much. I do have a question on the bottom track if the area is not level and silicone., please let me know if you are able to answer questions and or discuss thanks , joe
Jeff, I saw you at Home Depot today in leesburg! I wanted to say hi but you were talking with someone and I didn’t want to be rude. Anyways, I love your videos keep it up man! Would love to meet you one day
Love this guy. Watch all his stuff but Jeff. Impact driver on glass??? We know you’re the best. Maybe show how we should do it lol
Lmao I was thinking the same thing. I was like yep I'm using a screw driver and an extra pair of hands
You sure those separate pairs of track wheels are just redundant? Why would they design the product that way?
I have a fiberglass shower insert. What anchor system will work to attach the side frames? The fiberglass side walls for the entrance protrudes about 1 inch from the wall. Is it possible to anchor the sides to just the fiberglass which is hollow behind it or do I need to go all the way to the wall? Been searching hard to find an answer to this. Was planning on doing this next after I had new flooring put in two days ago. Perfect timing! Thanks for all your helpful videos. 😎👍
Hi there nice renovation, i always use tape to mark my holes on ceremic tiles doing this the drill never slips at the start, just saying.
Love your videos. Question: is it ideal to install ceramic gloss tiles on the wall AND the floor. I just tiles a 25sq ft bathroom and didn’t think the small space left any real walking room to slip.
Also a top tip from my Da from decades ago - when drilling porcelain - or any tile - get a fresh steel nail (or a custom ground old screwdriver) and one swift tap of a hammer gives the perfect location to start drilling
5:55 Hi Jeff, wouldn't it be easier/safer drilling the rails on the grout lines and just seal the old holes instead of risking damaging the tiles?
This is great, but do you have a video of doing one on a 4 panel fiberglass shower?
Please do a live question session with @Vancouvercarpenter
I was dumb and didnt think out my space and installed a 42" pan should have done a 48 , now o need a single door that swings any suggestions economy wise and best way to install?
Jeff, i want to build a small cabin, where would you recommend i start this journey
@34:35 might have to find some of those for my doors as they rattle like hell, and having two cats that paw on the doors when i try to sleep makes for some annoying night time
This is my first time on your channel and this video is awesome. My shower width is about 61". Will a standard frame provide enough wiggle room to cover that?
What adjustment is there if the shower opening is not plumb and square? Do the systems come with shim adjustments for this?
Hi Jeff, great video, do you have a video that showed how you built that shower? Have a tub that I’d like to remove & install a tiled shower instead. Also how would you drill the holes if the tile was porcelain?
I have been uploading the videos of this project for the last 8 weeks. Cheers!
How about drilling into porcelain tile? Need to know bc I need to install grab/safety bars in an existing shower with porcelain tile.
@@dankelley9361same as in this video
Couldn’t you mark the holes using the actual side track cut out holes? But the laser level looks like fun to use. I’m gonna have to get one or 2 for my husband.
It’s maybe been asked before but is the church gone? I really enjoyed the church renovation videos and I know you decided to flip it, just curious if it’s finished with now
Hi - just a thought - like you not a fan of those plastic tracks on the bottom / but also need stability - what about cutting the 3”-4” and fit that within the bottom grey piece only ?
Hello Jeff. I live in an apartment with attached garage. I can see daylight through the wall & around the door. Do you think I should use the foam? Be kind to each other. Stay safe. Love to all
Chinese technicians used diamond bits first with water cooling to cut through the ceramic then convert to a conventional concrete bit to finish the hole. Those bits will last for dozens of holes instead of just a few.
Your going to stay here in Florida for a couple months because its a lot warmer than back home.
I wonder if we could 3D print a better grey piece at the bottom to avoid needing that clear plastic piece????
you need a pica deep hole marker 😁
I actually prefer shower curtains. I don't find them ugly & I've never had mine smell bad. I get ones that resist mold & mildew though. I also don't have tile in my bathrooms. LOL. I've banged my elbow on the glass doors too many times to want to have them ever again. LOL. My mother hates glass doors because she had one shatter on her before.
This bathroom looks very cool though. The shiny tracks are pretty.
There are no local glass places where I live, sadly. Not many businesses survived the pandemic.
What if your shower is not tile and you have the typical fiberglass full shower kit? I also have metal studs...
What would you do if your walls are not tile but a one piece and the wall is not plumb?
We installed a no-frame glass shower two years ago. We are finding it impossible to keep the silicone gaskets stuck on the glass, particularly at the bottom of the leading edge of the shower door. We must have installed 10 new strips in the past couple of years. Anyone know of a permanent fix?
Why didn’t you install the two handles? In my experience the two handles touch as they pass each other?
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Shouldn't the silicone go on the inside of the door frame so water doesn't get in behind?
Nope. You need the water to be able to drain back into the wet area. Your silicone on the outside is to stop water getting outside the wet area.
water may find its way in but the curb is sloped so it always finds its way out. Cheers!
@stephen-boddy But there are holes drilled into the tile to hold the frame with screws. If there is no silicone on the inside there is a chance water will find its way behind the frame and in around the screws.
@@artstech I'd agree with you, and why I was surprised when Jeff having spent so much time creating a seal everywhere blithely drilled through it. Most other channels I've seen silicone any penetrations for this reason. Perhaps Jeff's years of experience that this is negligible is stronger evidence than us keyboard warriors. 😁 If it were my project I would cover my bases because I _don't_ have that experience. However, the silicone only on the outside of the frame is something I've seen in a number of trusted channels, so I take it as a given.
You starting that Sun Bird life?
Great video as always, just wondering iIf you didn't like the clear plastic on the bottom, could you have cut a short piece and siliconed it to the gray guide piece in the center? That would have eliminated the rattle without having to put a full piece on the glass.
34:44 “alright, there we go. So do that.” love how you admit/leave in the video your honest opinions and reasonings for doing things. makes me feel like I’m in the room with you.. or in this case in the shower with you 😘 haha just kidding, love your videos man thanks for sharing your skills and wisdom. nice work
What happens in the shower stays in the shower
Your the bob villa of RUclips
Jeff I'm just a diy guy. My custom shower door just cost me 1400. But I love it. I'm 6ft 4 i dont have to duck..
A shower door for my tube is well over 500 for curved tube
Curious, why not silicone the inside of the shower door? Is seems like the only place it should be sealed. Still, nice work Jeff.
water can always find a way in , the curb is sloped so it can fin its way out. this way it never goes ugly
@@HomeRenoVisionDIYhey Jeff would exterior screws work better than stainless steel just wondering your thoughts on it?GOD BLESS
Nice. Did I hear you right that you silicone the outside not the inside on that door? I would think you want the inward side siliconed, so you don't get water sitting up under the metal against the tile?
Jeff replied to this question from another viewer. He said it's because the water will always find a way in behind the silicone, and because the curb is sloped that water will get trapped behind going ugly
@@danielporter4493 Thanks for letting me know! Interesting. Makes me want to silicone both sides then, but I know that's not a good idea.
I am not a fan of shower doors on tubs ... I like a nice bath, and having a shower door always makes me feel trapped.
A high quality cloth shower curtain can be laundered, and the rod won't rust out in a well ventilated bathroom. Even if it does, they're not expensive to replace.
To each their own.
The other thing(s) to consider with curtains over doors are your elbows. With doors in a narrow bath, you'll be constantly hitting the doors with your elbows while trying to wash your hair. At least with the curtains it won't hurt, and you won't risk breaking anything because the curtain will move out of the way. Personally I think those door tracks are ugly, and make even the nicest bathrooms look cheap.
We had those in both our bathrooms, when we bought our house, and the top track was so mangled where the wheels slot in it wouldn't hold the doors. As a result both sets of doors had been set to the side, and not even used. The original owners treated their home like a rental.
I like your clip but who can install for me a bathe shower glass preferably a Bendheim glass
I wouldn’t go around telling people silicone is structural. There are a few types that are but only if you know what you’re doing and how structural is defined in terms of glazing silicone. Cheers 🎉
Хорошая работа!!! Сам укладывают плитку в Украине. Нравится как вы работаете
TIL there is a difference between clear and translucent silicone
Nice lesson. Not sure about the silicon bead on the outside of the aluminum channel. I think I would prefer on the inside, to mitigate standing moisture between the aluminum and the tile.
You would then trap water in the frame every time the shower is used. There should not be a silicone seal on the inside, as the water must be allowed to drain into the shower.
@@watcherofwatchers Okay that does make sense. Good to know as I will be installing a shower door soon. Thank you.
There’s gotta be an easier way to get those holes started. Jeff gets it don’t but he has decades of experience. Any ideas for someone possible doing it for the first time?
Put painters tape on the tile. It stops the bit slipping.
If we silicone only the outside the bottom track, water will get in under the track from the inside. How do you recommend cleaning that?
gravity will take care of that. water will leak in and out
It's basically impossible...and I've had this same shower door for years and its disgusting what's growing inside that bottom track. You can try to shove a wire brush in there and get it reasonably clean but it's just not a great design in my opinion. They should leave a larger gap at the bottom so it's easier to clean and more airflow can get in to dry it out.
Can we not silicone the inside?
@@oapy123why cant we silicone the inside then?
Why silicone the inside?
Can't know the end from the beginning if you don't open up the hardware kit and find out the screws they gave you won't work...?
I don’t use safety glasses either!
5:40 -ish- When installing side tracks it's best NOT to use the bottom of the shower sill/threshold as your guide as it may not be level from one side to another.
Even a difference of 1/16 inch can throw off your glass install. You want the top rail to be absolutely level so your glass hangs level and is not dependent on the threshold/sill levelness.
It's always best to use a laser level with a horizontal line projected across both the left and right side of the shower wall and measure down from that level line to position your rail mounting holes, independent of the shower sill threshold. In his case the laser line should be somewhere above the rail (maybe above where his accent tile is) and he should have marked his mounting holes measuring down from there. JMO.
or you can just install the sill level and that makes life easy!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY - DIY'ers oftentimes don't have that luxury as they're modifying an existing shower installed by a builder, or the previous homeowner or of course, a contractor. Remember, you're making a DIY shower door installation video, not a DIY shower build.
Do you factor in the distance to Home Depot when you purchase a property? I would think in your line of work, being 20 minutes away compared to 5 minutes would cost you tens if not hundreds of hours over the course of a series of videos.
Nice thing is when the plastic edge gets dirty you can always buy a new piece.
I hope you picked up a burger on the way back😊
Mye to never the screws can with doors is better used longers
I'd rather be more on than off lmao
And shower curtains ALWAYS leak on the floor!
You dont need screws, only silicone. Oh, darn. I need to go get screws!
No need to silicone the inside, only the outside to ensure a water tight seal. 😂😂😂
Hell no. I'm not cleaning the glass everyday, sometimes twice a day
That is an incredibly beautiful bathroom. However, I personally I think those tracks make the door installation look cheap. Those doors, and tracks will get nasty after a while, and will require more cleaning with things like limescale remover, and you'll never get that out of all the overlaps, and seams. Aluminum doesn't rust, but it does oxidize over time. Aside from that, you've drilled holes into tiles that can never be filled in to make them disappear if the new homeowners don't want that system.
With a high quality curtain, and a liner you can fully customize the look with whatever curtain you choose, and it will add an extra aesthetic to it. Curtains are far easier, and cheaper to replace than glass panels if some sort of damage occurs. There's no doubt that the glass system adds class, and modernization, but the concern is over use, and time. Those wheels ALWAYS fail eventually, and will become difficult to manage the longer they're there. Running water itself isn't the issue. It's the steam that will get into everything that is.
why would they put it in a bigger box if it's way cheaper to do it in a smaller box? less cartoon, cheaper shipping
it would be moronic to put it in a bigger box lol
How you gonna give a tutorial and be reading instructions 😂
I adore watching your videos. You fuss as much as I do about morons.
If your walls aren't level the glass will show it easily
Plumb you mean?
Usually the aluminum side tracks can correct up to 1/2 inch over 6-7 feet.
But yeah if you can start with perfect=end with perfect.
@@okkrom yes plumb using a level.
Let’s not install shower glass door. Pain in the ass. Better left to the pros. (I’m a tile contractor)
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cheers!
Find another job!!!
13:58 He was supposed to use the wall anchor inserts. That's why they were supplied to him! Follow the instructions! The wall anchors support the rails with more strength than a long screw into a 2x4 that's an inch or more (deep)away. You would then be wholly relying on the support of the sill/threshold to hold alignment of the side rails. The rails should be set as I describe below and if the sill/threshold is not level then you can place shims under the rails for additional support. What he's doing here is NOT good practice.
16:10 WRONG!
18:00 Wrong again! He chose not to follow the instructions. 👎👎
Reminds me of when I was a very young engineer back in the 70's and a few American Airlines mechanics "reinvented" the instructions/procedures and "had a better way of doing things" and ended up killing around 270 passengers in what is still this county's worst ever air crash! American Airlines 191- do a search on it....😐
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that is why your mother hates you
"Tempered" glass will shatter?!?! Why would I want to install THAT on a shower enclosure, where if someone slipped and fell against the glass, it would shatter!!! Talk about a bloody mess (at least it would be easy to clean up...). FYI: READ INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS PRIOR TO MAKING "HOW TO" VIDEO.
You're no pro if you can't follow installation instructions and have to back track. The manufacturer of the product always knows more about it than you do, and there are reasons they have certain parts that you can't simply disregard at your own discretion. Just sayin.
Wife taught him well. Clean up as you go along. It makes the job twice as long but stops the nagging. That is experience younger men need to take notice of.