This is a 127 year-old rifle and it looks every bit it's age. It's also a classic bit of western American history and an item that's been on my bucket list awhile.
It actually sees more light in my hands than it saw during last 50 years in the previous owners care. If I didn't have to worry about my fellow citizens stealing it, I would mount it above the mantle.😊
Do you know the reason for the scratches on the reciever n both sides? I have a Winchester 94 with 5 digits, too. The scratches of yours and min a nearly the same. My 94 is produced 1996 with special orders, take down, express sight, pistol grip etc. I had no clue what is the reason for those. So I see nearly the same pattern. How can that be? Greetings from Germany.....
Greetings. My guess is those longitudinal (to the barrel) scratches on the receiver were caused by many hours of being carried horseback in a rifle scabbard. A typical scabbard is made of leather and located (muzzle down) forward of my right leg when sitting on a horse. The scabbard is open on top where the rifle enters so anything and everything can fall into the scabbard with the rifle (brambles, acorns, gravel, dust, etc.). Pulling the rifle in and out several times a day, as well as the constant jostling of the horse's movements, would cause these marks.
@@whitneyranchproductions4637 Thanks for your explication, this seems to be the reason for the longitudinal sratches on the receiver. I always thought scabbards were only used on a horse up to 20" barrels, my 94 and yours have longer barrels. Next thing is that there aren't any on the wood, I mean the wood under the barrel. So I feel good after all because now I am sure that noboy with tools did that when trying to fix whatever. As I mentioned the pattern of scratches is damned similar on both rifles. Today I will go to the range with it. I got the Winchester in January and have been three times shooting it with reloaded weaker 30-30. The barrel is shiny and has sharp grooves, the owners before me took care of it. And so will I do. Best wishes to you from Germany where many guys love antique US firearms....
all those old 94s have those scratches... not from wear..... when they were sold the higher quality ( less scratches)went to retail stores.... the others were sold in bulk... had no effect on performance.....
That's awesome! I own my great-grandfathers 1886 (octagon barrel, 26", chambered in 40-65) and the metal on the barrel looks almost exactly like that. It is very beautiful coulor especially in the light. Does this weapon have a half-cock safety? My 1886 winchester does, suprisingly. I would be impressed if you got a couple shots out of this rifle without having the stock break in half. Losing all the bluing is a sign of neglect.; and it's sad to see they cut the magasine tube.
Theyr'e NICE-- but I MUCH prefer the m92!!! had one in .45- 20 inch barrell, large loop lever, set screw for rapid firing, (Rifleman style- and I could flip with both hands- and fire with both hands and hit a 2 inch grouping at 50 yards.. ( can't now- had 5 eye surgeries and can't hit the broad side of a barn now).. but I MUCH preferred the m92!!!
Winchester is such an iconic part of American history. Not in great shape but I have a Winchester 73 and would love to own each of the models up through the 94.
🙄 Uh....I knew that. 😁 My speech often works without brain input. Thanks for the catch, I'd correct that if my internet speed was faster than 1985 dial-up.
Wild horses are notoriously difficult to capture. It takes manpower and patience. Jim could catch one at a time by stunning them unconscious with a well placed rifle shot to the back of the skull, leaving only a flesh wound. This is late 1880-90s I believe.
@@whitneyranchproductions4637 I'm sorry, but Mr. Stoddard was pulling people's leg! Or he was killing a lot of horses. As someone who worked with horses, I say B.S.
@@joelpeterson8424 I can't speak from experience. I have heard other mention of this act in Jim Clyman's "Journal of a Mountain Man" (pg 32) to wit... "I saw a number of wild horses on the [prairie?] and I thought I would like to ride there is what hunters call "creasing"; this is done by shooting the animal through the neck close above the main bone this stuns them for a minute or more The next buffalo I killed I made a halter, I was forced to keep near the watter for there were no springs or streams on the plain. A fine black stallion came down to drink and beeing in close gun shot I fired as soon as he had gained the main bank he fell & I ran up & haltered him but he never moved for his neck was broken so I missed my wild ride."
A very nice old rifle. Thank you for sharing it with us. No reason for this to be the last Winchester you buy. Keep up the good work and go out and buy more. You can never have too many guns!
Just sit in the safe , what a sad ending.
It actually sees more light in my hands than it saw during last 50 years in the previous owners care. If I didn't have to worry about my fellow citizens stealing it, I would mount it above the mantle.😊
Do you know the reason for the scratches on the reciever n both sides?
I have a Winchester 94 with 5 digits, too. The scratches of yours and min a nearly the same.
My 94 is produced 1996 with special orders, take down, express sight, pistol grip etc.
I had no clue what is the reason for those. So I see nearly the same pattern.
How can that be?
Greetings from Germany.....
Greetings. My guess is those longitudinal (to the barrel) scratches on the receiver were caused by many hours of being carried horseback in a rifle scabbard. A typical scabbard is made of leather and located (muzzle down) forward of my right leg when sitting on a horse. The scabbard is open on top where the rifle enters so anything and everything can fall into the scabbard with the rifle (brambles, acorns, gravel, dust, etc.). Pulling the rifle in and out several times a day, as well as the constant jostling of the horse's movements, would cause these marks.
@@whitneyranchproductions4637 Thanks for your explication, this seems to be the reason for the longitudinal sratches on the receiver.
I always thought scabbards were only used on a horse up to 20" barrels, my 94 and yours have longer barrels.
Next thing is that there aren't any on the wood, I mean the wood under the barrel.
So I feel good after all because now I am sure that noboy with tools did that when trying to fix whatever.
As I mentioned the pattern of scratches is damned similar on both rifles.
Today I will go to the range with it. I got the Winchester in January and have been three times shooting it with reloaded weaker 30-30.
The barrel is shiny and has sharp grooves, the owners before me took care of it. And so will I do.
Best wishes to you from Germany where many guys love antique US firearms....
all those old 94s have those scratches... not from wear..... when they were sold the higher quality ( less scratches)went to retail stores.... the others were sold in bulk... had no effect on performance.....
That's awesome! I own my great-grandfathers 1886 (octagon barrel, 26", chambered in 40-65) and the metal on the barrel looks almost exactly like that. It is very beautiful coulor especially in the light.
Does this weapon have a half-cock safety? My 1886 winchester does, suprisingly. I would be impressed if you got a couple shots out of this rifle without having the stock break in half. Losing all the bluing is a sign of neglect.; and it's sad to see they cut the magasine tube.
Yes, it has half-cock safety. The bore is pretty bad also. I'm sure it'll shoot but it doesn't really have to anymore....it's retired.
If it is shootable, I'd have to shoot it at least once. 😁
Might have to...someday.
All the wear on that beautiful old rifle are a story book of its history. Thanks for the video.
I completely agree.
I got one made 1807. Great condition.😊
You mean 1907? That's an oldie too. Great rifle.
1907.and a 25-35 made 1905.
Mfg 1898
Thanks for info.
Theyr'e NICE-- but I MUCH prefer the m92!!! had one in .45- 20 inch barrell, large loop lever, set screw for rapid firing, (Rifleman style- and I could flip with both hands- and fire with both hands and hit a 2 inch grouping at 50 yards.. ( can't now- had 5 eye surgeries and can't hit the broad side of a barn now).. but I MUCH preferred the m92!!!
Very nice. I always liked the '73 myself.
Winchester is such an iconic part of American history.
Not in great shape but I have a Winchester 73 and would love to own each of the models up through the 94.
You and me both! Love to have a '73.
What a history that gun has…I bet it could tell some stories if it could speak…
Oh that it could.....
Octagon barrel hexagon has 6 sides
🙄 Uh....I knew that. 😁 My speech often works without brain input. Thanks for the catch, I'd correct that if my internet speed was faster than 1985 dial-up.
Tengo uno igual con mira,enrroscable, igualito.
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Son MUI pocos los que encuentras en México era de mi abuelo
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Is it shootable ?
It is shootable but the bore is in pretty bad shape. I think it will make a better mantle piece.
Cual es el costó de esta arma??
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Octagon
Roger that.
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Beautiful I don’t get the horse story tho??
Wild horses are notoriously difficult to capture. It takes manpower and patience. Jim could catch one at a time by stunning them unconscious with a well placed rifle shot to the back of the skull, leaving only a flesh wound. This is late 1880-90s I believe.
@@whitneyranchproductions4637 I'm sorry, but Mr. Stoddard was pulling people's leg! Or he was killing a lot of horses. As someone who worked with horses, I say B.S.
@@joelpeterson8424 I can't speak from experience. I have heard other mention of this act in Jim Clyman's "Journal of a Mountain Man" (pg 32) to wit...
"I saw a number of wild horses on the [prairie?] and I thought I would like to ride there is what hunters call "creasing"; this is done by shooting the animal through the neck close above the main bone this stuns them for a minute or more The next buffalo I killed I made a halter, I was forced to keep near the watter for there were no springs or streams on the plain. A fine black stallion came down to drink and beeing in close gun shot I fired as soon as he had gained the main bank he fell & I ran up & haltered him but he never moved for his neck was broken so I missed my wild ride."
Una Joya!!!
Thanks...I think.
A very nice old rifle. Thank you for sharing it with us. No reason for this to be the last Winchester you buy. Keep up the good work and go out and buy more. You can never have too many guns!
Ain't that the truth.....