One thing they messed up was in Super Hero when Vegeta was meditating he acted like he didn’t know what meditating is while in manga he was rather shocked that Vegeta of all people is meditating
Exactly that pissed me tf off cause he did meditation training right after the namek sage/before the android one...and now suddenly he's confused about why training your mind is just as important as your body?
@@Thebeatkicks he really isnt tbh, manga goku(super), anime goku(super) and movie goku(super) are different in terms of how the canon plays out, like the events happen they just didnt all take the same path
Let's not ignore how Goku recruited Freeza for the T.O.P. In the anime, Goku tricked Freeza into thinking he would be brought back to life with the Earth dragon balls, knowing full well that they don't bring back previously dead people. (For a 2nd time) That's some genius right there. It's not as fleshed out in the manga, sadly. Edit: Alright so look Goku doesn't flat out trick Freeza here. But he does let him dig his own grave, as Freeza wants to specially use the Earth dragon balls to resurrect himself. Goku doesn't bother to correct him either. Likely knowing to limit I mentioned above. Here's the episode clip: ruclips.net/video/l481KwCtUN4/видео.htmlsi=eliYAufpsFMEuWU9
@@therealstarplatinum nah he didn't know he can bring life.Rewind the time is different things both are not same.I know Goku is dumb but there is some moment that he done smart thing too.And Goku have a reason the be dumb but other characters didn't.
@@b.efesngl2778no no no let's not forget the time he decided to charge a spirit bomb over water right front of Frieza. Ah yes let's choose float over a surface that will reflect the big glowy orb instead of idk all the land masses within a few dozen yards.
@@goldgamer3925Yeah except the big glowy orb was _huge,_ probably the size of a disaster meteor (it's pretty inconsistently drawn so we'll never know exactly), and it already barely managed to hit Freeza. If it was any further there was a chance it wouldn't hit.
Why are people forgetting the fact that Goku is literally an alien who's lived his entire life on planet earth and hit his head so hard as a baby that it fundamentally changed his personality.
Not only that but dude was raised in the forest never went to school or nun just training first episodes he ain’t even know bulma was a girl thought she had balls lol
I think that they aren't complaining (at least usually) about Goku childish side and blunders as a whole, it was a big part of the og dragonball after all, but more on the fact that in super is far more pronounced than in Z, so it can feel like a regression of his character and his development over Z to some people.
I really hope that when we get the Moro saga animated they will give Goku some of his manga counterpart maturity so we can see him shine with his battle iq and maturity
@@Wat_AmI He didn't learn how to use it he tried imitating it and did nothing close to the actual thing. Beerus confirms it was just a condensed Ki blast it wasn't Hakai. Hakai makes an explosion like Beerus says. It's not perfect or even remotely similar to Hakai
Goku in the manga never challenged Beerus, he was just was curious Beerus heard it from the distance He was perfectly conscious about the energy wasted by the blue, so he used the god against Hit and waited to the strongest attack of his enemy to finally surprise him with the blue When he saw Zamasu, he inmediately suggested the mafuba He is ignoring all this things
Don't forget tho that in the manga's U6 tournament Goku was the one to come up with the strategy to defeat botamo and he also came up with a strategy to bypass Hit's time skip, while in the anime goku literally tried to do a headbutt on botamo and won against Hit just by basicly increasing his power with a semi suicidal technique. English is not my first language so I apologize if I made any mistake
Pff bro he’s almost 50y/o and he has a grand daugther. How can he not recognize a pregnant woman or know what is a kiss. And doesn’t know about meditation when we all saw him meditation countless amount of time in the original series. He’s just not Goku man.
@@tommynzebo Half the reason he wasn't more goofy in Z was the fact that he was dead or off screen most of the time. When he's back on screen for longer in the Buu arc, he's the same as he is in Super.
@@tommynzebothis is the same Goku that at age 18 still thought that a wedding was a type of food. This man has never been serious at any point in his life unless there was grave danger for earth or his family and even then he still made risky and stupid decisions like giving Cell a Senzu or not finishing off Frieza. Not to mention the fact that Goku is an alien raised on a foreign planet and was dropped on his head as a baby.
Yes this is true, however there is no such anime adaptation of any saga after the tournament of power, in order it isn’t fair to compare late Goku to an earlier Goku
In the manga, Goku did quite the strategic move when he used instant transmission in a row in order for Gas to follow him and then did the teleportation sequence in reverse so fast that Gas couldn't lock in his Ki and trap him far away so he could buy time to recover. Probably the smartest use of the Instant Transmission
The whole Goku being stupid in Super thing has always been overblown tbh. It’s only ever actually a problem in the Goku Black Arc (and even then it’s not a consistent problem, just some bad moments here and there) and the single line in the movie version of Super Hero where he doesn’t see meditation as training. Outside of that he’s basically the same as he’s always been: a fun loving, light hearted, goofball who knows when to lock in.
Dragon Ball fans don’t know how to read and a lot of them are blinded by nostalgia. Thats a given. They’ll watch anime from 1996 then watch now and be like “omg he’s dumb, he was never like that”. When he’s literally always been like that. The man hit his head on a boulder nosedive style. They literally told people this in 1989. He’s bound to be brain damaged, even with a super hard head. He’s a martial arts master though! Even had his own symbol on his back. He hasn’t changed. Only thing that changed is that there was literally 4 years of actual peace and most of the time there is peace. Whereas in DB-DBZ there was constant chaos. Leads up to where even Goku gets injured by a bullet in DBS because he hasn’t been training as well. Because technically, the times are still relatively peaceful.
Goku was always like this being dumb even in z he was mostly dead in the series so we didnt saw him that much outside of training/battling goku is dumb even in z but when it comes to battle iq hes just a genius
Anime counter parts have more feats than manga counter parts. However how it’s shown, anime Ultimate gohan is really ssj2 goku lvl (we all know how strong base goku is in the anime and goku quite literally ONLY went blue because gohan asked, he didn’t need it) but manga gohan in ultimate form was actually Blue lvl in the tournament of power.
@@CoobunsBoogerwhistle ultimate, looked like base because of the no bang but we know it was ultimate because of his eyes, they were sharp like ssj eyes and his base form eyes are round
@@xantwanevolutionar9777 Wrong, Goku went blue because he needed it, Gohan asking had nothing to do with it, he wouldn't enter blue if he didn't think he needed it. And Gohan forced him into kaioken as well.
@@choppyhakusho gohan ain’t force shii, he literally ASKED him to go blue, and you know that, he went FULL POWER, let me repeat, FULL POWER!!!!! on Super Saiyan 2 Goku, and YOU KNOW that, if he was Blue lvl, WHY COULDNT HE DAMAGE TOPPO? Regular Blue Goku fighting seriously and Blue Vegeta fighting seriously had no problems dealing with toppo, yet Gohan and 17 couldn’t damage him? Come on now.
lets be fair.. buu saga he was serious af due to so many things going on, if super goku had same events going on.. he in both z and super was just stupid in general but still had a bit of knowledge, for battles.. he was always a genius
@@anjumanchhaya7048 him. Being goofy doesn't mean he don't stand on business, he absolutely DESTROYED the red ribbon army and cooked king piccolo, and him being as serious as dbs goku is a crime since one is 12 while the other is in his 40s 💀
One's most valuable thing is life! And tell who'll care about anything after being dead for twice technically 3 times!! Besides who can even casually go hell,heaven and from hell to earth with instant transportation!!
@westhequagsire It wasn't a dub error. He said that in both versions. Also, you would've seen people pointing that out to defend it if it was the dub that screwed up.
I’d say it’s fair to count the last two arcs since manga didn’t get two arcs either that being golden Frieza and Broly. Btw I know it’s a movie but it counts as an arc because it actually matters afterwards.
So we're forgetting about the Goku Black arc, when goku mastered SSBSS and stood a chance one on one against merged Zamatsu, and almost killed him with a Hakai?
In Z we never actually saw Goku without any bad guy looming around or training(and we established that he's still intelligent in terms of fighting)so you can't be sure if he was smart outside battles. Unless there's an episode where he's just chilling or working like in Super where you can single it out that I can check before commenting again.
Tbf one of the smartest things anime goku did was use a kamahamaha against kefla as he reaslises his punchs arent doing enough due to him trying to fight as usual in UI
We're no strangers to love You know the rules and so do I (do I) A full commitment's what I'm thinking of You wouldn't get this from any other guy I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching, but you're too shy to say it (say it) Inside, we both know what's been going on (going on) We know the game and we're gonna play it And if you ask me how I'm feeling Don't tell me you're too blind to see Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching, but you're too shy to say it (to say it) Inside, we both know what's been going on (going on) We know the game and we're gonna play it I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Not possible, he was still weak and Grandpa Gohan, master roshi, korin, kami and mr. Popo will either stop him or their personality will rub off him @@anjumanchhaya7048
Honestly my only issue with his intelligence is the fact that when one becomes a father you come more protective and smarter in order to function correctly as a father, but you see GOKU IS A GRANDFATHER
goku manga is smarter, the best example is ssj blue, manga goku focuses on perfecting the form, anime goku adds the kaioken to the form, which is just a power boost that destroys your body, in the TOP it makes no sense to use that combination, add to that the UI mastery in the manga
Mature?? Manga Goku never learned from his "sparing enemies" mistake, bro straight up gave Moro senzu and almost caused everyone to die, Whis literally had to get involved because of how dumb his decision was. Edit: Fanboys getting butthurt over the comment not even realizing the main point was "sparing", instead of giving the senzu he could've ended it right there, he just gave him more time for no reason. Learn to read kids.
Goku giving senzu to Moro still didn't do shit, In return Moro broke his arm by trying to stab Goku who was just standing there, Moro anyway would have still found a way of recovering his severed hand and copy Merus's abilities.
@@ironicname5901 he's a typical goku hater like how he think when when goku gave cell he think it was dumb when in reality it literally factually didn't do anything for cell beside some stamina and if anyone about to say it would've made a difference you got it.
I always believe that goku is never really an idiot or even dumb. He just too pure and had no knowledge about whatsoever but when he did he can adapted to it. But since super i don't think this statement matter anymore because they really made him dumb except when in battle.
"In exclusives events from the manga, Gokū is more mature with his training" Gokū litteraly asking Vegeta what's the purpose of meditation while training with Broly on Beerus' planet : 🤡
Goku iq is bad but battle iq is better when he was fighting Goku black he recognize goku black can copy Goku so when he unlocked Kaioken he didn’t use it until the end of the battle
Saying Goku is an "Unintelligent Fighter"I an overstatement.You know he is a genius in martial arts and he was raised in the woods.The Bible says "Train Up A Child In The Way He Should Grow And When He's Old He Shall Never Depart From It". That's who he is, learned martial arts and never thought educational morals.
One of them forgot the Senzu Beans and atleast brought a paper slip to seal away Zamasu (despite it not being the talisman) It's gonna be the manga for me
honestly i blame tfs dbza, its why people view Goku and the rest of these characters in bad ways, not sending any hate to tfs but it's probably one of the bigger reasons why people think Goku is dumb
The anime makes MUI look more godly more powerful overall but the manga utilizes MUI in a better way the way he’s actually supposed to use it it’s just the longer he has that form keep in mind the longer they will nerf the shit out of it so he can have a hard time against the new enemies
The problem is not that Goku is dumb or anything of the sort. The problem is he is just far too relaxed and takes nothing seriously which honestly kinda make sense why he wouldn't be serious.
Goku's iq-🤡
Goku's battle iq-🗿
Kid Goku calculating how many years he has-👍
Super Goku counting to 4-🥵
@@EnzoGranzottolol
I'm gonna touch you🗿
@@EnzoGranzotto that emoji is sus as hell🤨
@@portiagudazi3113google was supposed to make that emoji tired or hot
Fun fact: Theyre both smarter than their TeamFourStar Counterpart
Ik dude his TFS counterpart is literally what Goku shouldn’t be and people still call him peak.
@@CoolstarYT6 I mean TFS is peak comedy wise imo
@@Durpbudd yea that’s the point of an abridged series. Dbza literally started all the abridged series we know
I still like TFS goku all because of peak comedy
@@CoolstarYT6When they say he’s peak they’re being ironic. Its comedy
Our Goku is Goku No matter the Anime or Manga he's always the GOAT Forever
@@TeotheDan the TRUTH
@@TeotheDanaint no way you think 1 sentence is yapping bro is cooked for life
@@TeotheDancommenting is yapping now alr
@@TeotheDanBro what are YOU yapping about ?
@@TeotheDanbro is not a sigma😭🙏
One thing they messed up was in Super Hero when Vegeta was meditating he acted like he didn’t know what meditating is while in manga he was rather shocked that Vegeta of all people is meditating
Exactly that pissed me tf off cause he did meditation training right after the namek sage/before the android one...and now suddenly he's confused about why training your mind is just as important as your body?
it was corrected in the manga
Anime goku isnt movie super goku
@@sonicwithglasses131it is
@@Thebeatkicks he really isnt tbh, manga goku(super), anime goku(super) and movie goku(super) are different in terms of how the canon plays out, like the events happen they just didnt all take the same path
Let's not ignore how Goku recruited Freeza for the T.O.P. In the anime, Goku tricked Freeza into thinking he would be brought back to life with the Earth dragon balls, knowing full well that they don't bring back previously dead people. (For a 2nd time) That's some genius right there. It's not as fleshed out in the manga, sadly.
Edit: Alright so look Goku doesn't flat out trick Freeza here. But he does let him dig his own grave, as Freeza wants to specially use the Earth dragon balls to resurrect himself. Goku doesn't bother to correct him either. Likely knowing to limit I mentioned above.
Here's the episode clip: ruclips.net/video/l481KwCtUN4/видео.htmlsi=eliYAufpsFMEuWU9
No he Did know that But they used whis to revive him since Whis can also do that
But Goku mat not know that whis can revive@@therealstarplatinum
@@ronkgaming9159 Im pretty sure he did, whis did it on a much larger scale tecnically by bringing the entire earth back
@@therealstarplatinum nah he didn't know he can bring life.Rewind the time is different things both are not same.I know Goku is dumb but there is some moment that he done smart thing too.And Goku have a reason the be dumb but other characters didn't.
Goku said he would use the dragon balls. Never once was whis brought up as an option to bring him back beerus made that call not goku
Goku’s intelligence peaked in Z
Once he left the time chamber with kid gohan he left his brain there too😢
@@b.efesngl2778no no no let's not forget the time he decided to charge a spirit bomb over water right front of Frieza. Ah yes let's choose float over a surface that will reflect the big glowy orb instead of idk all the land masses within a few dozen yards.
@@goldgamer3925Hes talking about the cell saga when goku and gohan mastered super saiyan
@@Hypermoon1They know, they're just saying what he did on Namek was stupid.
@@goldgamer3925Yeah except the big glowy orb was _huge,_ probably the size of a disaster meteor (it's pretty inconsistently drawn so we'll never know exactly), and it already barely managed to hit Freeza. If it was any further there was a chance it wouldn't hit.
Manga Goku : Mature
Anime Goku : Intelligent
Anime: still dumb
@@pryamidgamer8443 No
@@SoheibKakumei Yes
@@Alpha-32- No
@@SoheibKakumeiYes
Why are people forgetting the fact that Goku is literally an alien who's lived his entire life on planet earth and hit his head so hard as a baby that it fundamentally changed his personality.
FR
Not only that but dude was raised in the forest never went to school or nun just training first episodes he ain’t even know bulma was a girl thought she had balls lol
Bruh's entire personality changed from that head truama. People like to pretend Goku doesn't have brain damage. 😂
Cause Dragon Ball fans don’t read the source material. They’ve been influencing by horrible dubs throughout the years
I think that they aren't complaining (at least usually) about Goku childish side and blunders as a whole, it was a big part of the og dragonball after all, but more on the fact that in super is far more pronounced than in Z, so it can feel like a regression of his character and his development over Z to some people.
This was amazing 🤩 we really needed to hear this 🙏🏽
I love how Transformations in the Manga are actually a big deal and not just hair color change
Plus they let ssj3 and god appear more
Honestly i LOVE the design of Goku in the manga he looks so serious and cool
I really hope that when we get the Moro saga animated they will give Goku some of his manga counterpart maturity so we can see him shine with his battle iq and maturity
Manga goku also took the time to learn hakai.
No he didn't. He attempted to use it and failed then just didn't learn it from Beerus
@@antares8943 how would he know how to use it then, and even if he learned it doesn't mean it's perfect
Like how Frost saw mafuba used and learned it
@@Wat_AmI He didn't learn how to use it he tried imitating it and did nothing close to the actual thing. Beerus confirms it was just a condensed Ki blast it wasn't Hakai. Hakai makes an explosion like Beerus says. It's not perfect or even remotely similar to Hakai
@@Wat_AmI Frost reflected Mafuba. Using an attack and reflecting it aren't the same and that required Mafuba to actually be used on Frost.
Goku in the manga never challenged Beerus, he was just was curious Beerus heard it from the distance
He was perfectly conscious about the energy wasted by the blue, so he used the god against Hit and waited to the strongest attack of his enemy to finally surprise him with the blue
When he saw Zamasu, he inmediately suggested the mafuba
He is ignoring all this things
Don't forget tho that in the manga's U6 tournament Goku was the one to come up with the strategy to defeat botamo and he also came up with a strategy to bypass Hit's time skip, while in the anime goku literally tried to do a headbutt on botamo and won against Hit just by basicly increasing his power with a semi suicidal technique.
English is not my first language so I apologize if I made any mistake
True but still cool
So are you gonna ignore Goku's smarts when he fought him in base and figured out his timeskip in the anime? Including the filler episodes. 😂
@@jasonone8726 actually completely forgot that happened thank you for reminding me
Hit is weak asf in the manga so no wonder
About the "semi suicidal tecnique", in manga he was massively superior to Hit
I’m so glad goku is smarter then goku, there’s no way goku would’ve outsmarted goku
I think we can all agree that Mange Goku is a WAY better written Goku than Super Goku.
Almost the same, really.
they are the same
@@sc-1918Nah
no I prefer super anime goku
@@sc-1918no, they're never the same
Goku on anime is the dumbest character I ever saw
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I like that he’s more goofy in super. It reminds me of original dragon ball
Finally someone who doesn’t overthink things and enjoys it
Someone who loves Goku for being Goku and doesn’t want him to be extra smart or intelligent
Pff bro he’s almost 50y/o and he has a grand daugther. How can he not recognize a pregnant woman or know what is a kiss. And doesn’t know about meditation when we all saw him meditation countless amount of time in the original series.
He’s just not Goku man.
@@tommynzebo Half the reason he wasn't more goofy in Z was the fact that he was dead or off screen most of the time. When he's back on screen for longer in the Buu arc, he's the same as he is in Super.
@@tommynzebothis is the same Goku that at age 18 still thought that a wedding was a type of food. This man has never been serious at any point in his life unless there was grave danger for earth or his family and even then he still made risky and stupid decisions like giving Cell a Senzu or not finishing off Frieza. Not to mention the fact that Goku is an alien raised on a foreign planet and was dropped on his head as a baby.
"Goku is a bad dad 🤡🤡🤡" vs "Vegeta beat his own child 💪 🗿 ☕"
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Yes this is true, however there is no such anime adaptation of any saga after the tournament of power, in order it isn’t fair to compare late Goku to an earlier Goku
In the manga, Goku did quite the strategic move when he used instant transmission in a row in order for Gas to follow him and then did the teleportation sequence in reverse so fast that Gas couldn't lock in his Ki and trap him far away so he could buy time to recover. Probably the smartest use of the Instant Transmission
"smart or not, he is dumb in his own ways"
-proud prince of saiyans
Conclusion: They both have the same intelligence but in different ways
manga goku in goku black arc literally act like in dbz goku when he sees vegeta utilizing ssg and ssjb simultaneously
"Goku always smiling at the opponent who killed his friends"
Goku in the literal image:
The whole Goku being stupid in Super thing has always been overblown tbh. It’s only ever actually a problem in the Goku Black Arc (and even then it’s not a consistent problem, just some bad moments here and there) and the single line in the movie version of Super Hero where he doesn’t see meditation as training. Outside of that he’s basically the same as he’s always been: a fun loving, light hearted, goofball who knows when to lock in.
GOATku will always be THE GOAT
HE'S THE GOAT
True🎉🎉
Dragon Ball fans don’t know how to read and a lot of them are blinded by nostalgia. Thats a given. They’ll watch anime from 1996 then watch now and be like “omg he’s dumb, he was never like that”. When he’s literally always been like that.
The man hit his head on a boulder nosedive style. They literally told people this in 1989. He’s bound to be brain damaged, even with a super hard head. He’s a martial arts master though! Even had his own symbol on his back.
He hasn’t changed. Only thing that changed is that there was literally 4 years of actual peace and most of the time there is peace. Whereas in DB-DBZ there was constant chaos. Leads up to where even Goku gets injured by a bullet in DBS because he hasn’t been training as well. Because technically, the times are still relatively peaceful.
Goku was always like this being dumb even in z he was mostly dead in the series so we didnt saw him that much outside of training/battling goku is dumb even in z but when it comes to battle iq hes just a genius
@@the_editor_cosmic_gigachad yep this is what I said but shortened. I agree.
i hated how they messed up gokus character in super hope they fix it in super s2
Considering toriyamas gone….. idk if super will even continue
@@SonicTheHedgehogX15Well, his successor might continue dragon ball.
@@SonicTheHedgehogX15Maybe now that he's gone,whoever's in charge might actually put some respect on Gohan.
You definitely gotta do a Anime Gohan vs. Manga Gohan. Who’s stronger?
Anime counter parts have more feats than manga counter parts. However how it’s shown, anime Ultimate gohan is really ssj2 goku lvl (we all know how strong base goku is in the anime and goku quite literally ONLY went blue because gohan asked, he didn’t need it) but manga gohan in ultimate form was actually Blue lvl in the tournament of power.
@@xantwanevolutionar9777 was gohan in base or ultimate when fighting kefla
@@CoobunsBoogerwhistle ultimate, looked like base because of the no bang but we know it was ultimate because of his eyes, they were sharp like ssj eyes and his base form eyes are round
@@xantwanevolutionar9777 Wrong, Goku went blue because he needed it, Gohan asking had nothing to do with it, he wouldn't enter blue if he didn't think he needed it. And Gohan forced him into kaioken as well.
@@choppyhakusho gohan ain’t force shii, he literally ASKED him to go blue, and you know that, he went FULL POWER, let me repeat, FULL POWER!!!!! on Super Saiyan 2 Goku, and YOU KNOW that, if he was Blue lvl, WHY COULDNT HE DAMAGE TOPPO? Regular Blue Goku fighting seriously and Blue Vegeta fighting seriously had no problems dealing with toppo, yet Gohan and 17 couldn’t damage him? Come on now.
Man dbz goku was an actual master and they had to go ahead and make him a pupil.
Then he would've never gotten SSJ Blue and UI. Vegeta's a pupil also. 😆
In the manga he also remembers what meditation is lol
lets be fair.. buu saga he was serious af due to so many things going on, if super goku had same events going on.. he in both z and super was just stupid in general but still had a bit of knowledge, for battles.. he was always a genius
Dbs goku: 🤡🤡
Og Db and Dbz Goku: 🗿🗿
OG DB Goku was even more goofy and 🤡🤡
@@anjumanchhaya7048 him. Being goofy doesn't mean he don't stand on business, he absolutely DESTROYED the red ribbon army and cooked king piccolo, and him being as serious as dbs goku is a crime since one is 12 while the other is in his 40s 💀
So if Anime Goku were to go through the Moro and Granola arcs, he could actually start acting like himself from Z again.
Well sadly enough probably not because Goku has always been more mature in the DBS manga than the anime.
Js put the fries in the bag 😭🙏
Who is smartest❌
Who is Smarter✅
i know the creator is gone but they rly gotta work on bringin the granola and moro arcs to the show🙏
One's most valuable thing is life! And tell who'll care about anything after being dead for twice technically 3 times!! Besides who can even casually go hell,heaven and from hell to earth with instant transportation!!
Bro literally threw a senzu bean at Moro to heal his ass if "He JuST WeNT tO jAiL" like brother Goku never fails to amaze me how stupid he is.
Goku's intelligence😂😂😂
Goku's battle IQ💎💥💥 peak
Both manga and anime Goku are smarter than his own fans.
Anime Goku forgot Meditating was a thing meanwhile Manga Goku was still doing it. Case Closed
Dub error the original just said he was surprised Vegeta was meditating
Mature not smart
@westhequagsire It wasn't a dub error. He said that in both versions. Also, you would've seen people pointing that out to defend it if it was the dub that screwed up.
that same scene happen in the manga whis even called him a muscle head for that.
@@sc-1918 No, Goku mentioned meditating in the manga.
I’d say it’s fair to count the last two arcs since manga didn’t get two arcs either that being golden Frieza and Broly. Btw I know it’s a movie but it counts as an arc because it actually matters afterwards.
So we're forgetting about the Goku Black arc, when goku mastered SSBSS and stood a chance one on one against merged Zamatsu, and almost killed him with a Hakai?
Geekzinc21 U know all that in the Goku black arc happened in the Manga not Anime
@anjumanchhaya7048 yes, that's why I'm saying manga goku isn't as dumb as they're portraying.
Goku as a math teacher is the smartest Goku of all 😅
That last picture at the end of the book is from the granola arc book 16, I have it 😭
Bulma needs to wish for goku to get smarter instead of wishing for her butt to get bigger😂😂
No wonder why this took almost a year to make this is INSANEEE 🔥🔥
I hate how DBS depicted Goku outside of battles. Goku Always have been childish but he Always was smart af
In Z we never actually saw Goku without any bad guy looming around or training(and we established that he's still intelligent in terms of fighting)so you can't be sure if he was smart outside battles. Unless there's an episode where he's just chilling or working like in Super where you can single it out that I can check before commenting again.
Manga version. Because of the when he said its new for vegeta to be meditating during the superhero saga. Thank You Toyotaro 😭🙏🏿
Tbf one of the smartest things anime goku did was use a kamahamaha against kefla as he reaslises his punchs arent doing enough due to him trying to fight as usual in UI
Goku is basically Aang on steroids.
Who is smarter❌️
Who is smartest✅️
Nah
We're no strangers to love
You know the rules and so do I (do I)
A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
You wouldn't get this from any other guy
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
We've known each other for so long
Your heart's been aching, but you're too shy to say it (say it)
Inside, we both know what's been going on (going on)
We know the game and we're gonna play it
And if you ask me how I'm feeling
Don't tell me you're too blind to see
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
We've known each other for so long
Your heart's been aching, but you're too shy to say it (to say it)
Inside, we both know what's been going on (going on)
We know the game and we're gonna play it
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
did i just get rickrolled?
Funfacts: if goku didn't fall from that cliff, he wouldn't be dull in iq
And he would be a heartless, ruthless villain killing everyone in earth
Not possible, he was still weak and Grandpa Gohan, master roshi, korin, kami and mr. Popo will either stop him or their personality will rub off him @@anjumanchhaya7048
I still love both of em
Goku itna smart hai ki😂 Bo Bulma ko check kar ke dekh rha tha iske pas bhi mere jaise saman hai ya nhi😂😂😂
Goku doesn't need to explain his technique to the enemy 💀
the one in the manga never forgot anything he learnt throughout the series in the newest movie goku forgot what meditating did bro
Honestly my only issue with his intelligence is the fact that when one becomes a father you come more protective and smarter in order to function correctly as a father, but you see GOKU IS A GRANDFATHER
They are Saiyans, their Nature it's not the same as earthlings, that's why Goku is so different to even his sons.
He is a genius when it comes to battle but becomes full todoroki in social situations
Both is good🎉
Maturity isn’t completely intellectual but I’d say a response to a mindset
goku manga is smarter, the best example is ssj blue, manga goku focuses on perfecting the form, anime goku adds the kaioken to the form, which is just a power boost that destroys your body, in the TOP it makes no sense to use that combination, add to that the UI mastery in the manga
Can i still visit it after 7 years ??????
As long as he knows what a pacifier is, he's good with me
I wish the events in the manga come in the anime
I’m sure the Anime Goku will follow the same steps as his Manga Counter part IF it’s ever animated.
they aren’t always the same tho
Tbh if they continue DB super I just hoped they are not treated like mappa lmao
He probably got more childish cuz of how there’s no one to fight so he can just do what he wants but he starts to mature as he fights more and more.
How about we just say Goku wins and continue our day
He's more serious in manga, so manga for me
bruh goku all smart in this dragon ball
Mature??
Manga Goku never learned from his "sparing enemies" mistake, bro straight up gave Moro senzu and almost caused everyone to die, Whis literally had to get involved because of how dumb his decision was.
Edit:
Fanboys getting butthurt over the comment not even realizing the main point was "sparing", instead of giving the senzu he could've ended it right there, he just gave him more time for no reason.
Learn to read kids.
Goku giving senzu to Moro still didn't do shit, In return Moro broke his arm by trying to stab Goku who was just standing there, Moro anyway would have still found a way of recovering his severed hand and copy Merus's abilities.
Literally means nothing please spare me your bs.
You’re yapping brother, Goku giving him that senzu didn’t do shit
@@ironicname5901 he's a typical goku hater like how he think when when goku gave cell he think it was dumb when in reality it literally factually didn't do anything for cell beside some stamina and if anyone about to say it would've made a difference you got it.
@@rolphmother9172 lil bro edited his comment, since he's the first one to get butthurt by getting jumped by people with facts💀.
Rest in peace Akira toriyama
I always believe that goku is never really an idiot or even dumb. He just too pure and had no knowledge about whatsoever but when he did he can adapted to it. But since super i don't think this statement matter anymore because they really made him dumb except when in battle.
"In exclusives events from the manga, Gokū is more mature with his training"
Gokū litteraly asking Vegeta what's the purpose of meditation while training with Broly on Beerus' planet : 🤡
The way I see Goku is in z he loves, in super he loves to fight
“1 trillion,2 trillion,3 trillion” 🌚🌚🗿
My head canon is that Goku suffers from CTE after getting hit in the head so much in Z
Goku iq is bad but battle iq is better when he was fighting Goku black he recognize goku black can copy Goku so when he unlocked Kaioken he didn’t use it until the end of the battle
bro matured when he hit 42💀
Goku in anime literally figures out everyones weakness even teaches ppl mid fight making them stronger ctfu only slow ppl call him an idiot
Saying Goku is an "Unintelligent Fighter"I an overstatement.You know he is a genius in martial arts and he was raised in the woods.The Bible says "Train Up A Child In The Way He Should Grow And When He's Old He Shall Never Depart From It". That's who he is, learned martial arts and never thought educational morals.
One of them forgot the Senzu Beans and atleast brought a paper slip to seal away Zamasu (despite it not being the talisman) It's gonna be the manga for me
I swear to God bro Goku from dragon Ball z definitely from the cell saga seems more mature and smarter than now Goku 😂💀
honestly i blame tfs dbza, its why people view Goku and the rest of these characters in bad ways, not sending any hate to tfs but it's probably one of the bigger reasons why people think Goku is dumb
When Goku isn't fighting his IQ is less than 70.
No his IQ is single digit outside of combat💀🙏
Just wait till manga gets animated
I wonder how strong and smart they would be if these two fused?🤔😂
so if moro arc happened in anime he would be more mature
Goku is the reason powerscalers have to separate IQ and Battle IQ
The anime makes MUI look more godly more powerful overall but the manga utilizes MUI in a better way the way he’s actually supposed to use it it’s just the longer he has that form keep in mind the longer they will nerf the shit out of it so he can have a hard time against the new enemies
W vid
Wish they didn't retcon all of his character development and personality from Z
*Goku: What’s iq*
Vegeta: Basically how smart are you
Goku: oh… Battle iq is better right?
Vegeta: you p1ss ne off
He is smart but childish,he holds back and play with the enemy☠️
The problem is not that Goku is dumb or anything of the sort. The problem is he is just far too relaxed and takes nothing seriously which honestly kinda make sense why he wouldn't be serious.