"killed in cold blood". she said it like they were model citizens and not... well, crime lords, psychopathic murderers, drug dealers and terrorists. i can't with this universe.
They wouldnt be that upset at criminal dying, but people would believe its a new super criminal jackass getting rid of the competition before thinking its a vigilante. Even worse its a STRONGER criminal that show up. That what i would belive if i didnt have real life info on what going on.
I think Jason was Red Robin before Tim. He went to a different earth, where Batman started killing after the death of his Jason Todd, becoming Red Robin because that earth's Batman wanted a partner, not a sidekick.
>if you kill someone that kills others, commits disproportionate amounts of crime, and shows no signs of respect for general society, the number of killers remains the same What a stupid saying
That saying never made sense because there would be one less killer and yeah you’d be one too but that doesn’t mean the amount of killers would remain the same. And if you killed multiple killers then the number of killers left would be lower. Plus every day and year there’s always a new or new killers made so why not go ahead and make that number lower especially if it’s getting rid of bad people.
There ain’t no way they actually said “Notorious crime lords gunned down in cold blood” lmao. Pretty sure crime lords order people to be “gunned down in cold blood” all the time 😂
Cold blood just means the perpetrator did it in a cold and calculated way, no mercy, and when the person being killed wasn't fighting or prepared for it (may not even be aware it's happening). Like premeditated murder tends to be in cold blood, because they planned that out and did it with a precision that shows it wasn't a heat of the moment thing.
@@Enoch610 you have no idea what the term cold blood means, do you? It just means to killing without mercy, which is exactly what Jason did. It doesn’t mean the victims were good people.
Cheetah suffers the worst power scaling of any villain in the DC universe. One minute, she's singlehandedly fighting the Justice League, going toe to toe with Flash and WW. The next minute she’s getting put down by street-level heroes.
Calling Batman or red hood street level is wild considering that if they were bad guys than they could literally take out the entirety of the justice league alone.
I haven't actually seen the movie this is from, but I'm pretty sure that's Jason in the Red Robin suit and for some weird reason they gave him Tim's moniker and costume instead of just making him Red Hood. Though this isn't the first time Jason and Tim got mixed together. B:TAS and Batman Beyond also mixed their characters together into a single one.
It’s not about superheroes refusing to kill, it’s about failure of justice system. Batman doesn’t need to kill, court needs to have proper verdicts and means to uphold them.
@@moxflied wich he then puts in to be processed by the criminal justice system, who then lets them go, and the cycle repeats, dont forget gotham crimw rate is shit high, and people work for mob bosses and criminal gangs, becuase they pay better, if a influencial company like say Wanetech, were to push towards better pay for people and citezens they wouldnt need to turn to crime to support themselves and their familys, crime bosses just do what Mega Corps do, but without government protection, Joker litterally does more to help the people of gotham than batman, if batman wanted to save gotham he would have, as bruce wane, but becuase his parents were shot by criminals, becuase they wpre fucking jewelery around thier neck that probably could have fed that criminal for years(given gotham economy) and kills them, batman sees the criminal as the bad guy, but not the true injustice that cuases the criminals to commit crime, batman is a very well written hero, but also a really Evil one that plays on his own Ego and Self-Reichiousness
Thank you so f*cking much for being the only other goddamn sensible individual in this comment section; the government is the one failing you. Why are you blaming the only person actually doing something just because he doesn’t want to have to live with killing someone. The dude already has trauma related to watching his parents die and yall mfs are desperate to make him kill. Yall need some help if you can’t see how absolutely f*cked it is to act like he’s doing something wrong by not killing when he doesn’t have to kelp anyone at all. He has no obligation to help anyone; quit complaining when does.
haters are desperate to clown anyone for anything, even when it’s just a dude deciding to not kill someone. How are you going to clown someone for not killing? Are you dumb, a hypocrite, or just sociopathic? Regardless your opinions are invalid
"After Batman apprehended Cheetah for the 17th time following her most recent escape last week an unidentified man in a mask was a spotted rolling his eyes and actually did something to stop her."
How did he kill Cheetah with a single shot from a pistol when she can take punches from Wonder Woman and Superman without going down? And as for Batman regularly catching her, she's primarily a wonder woman villain, not a Batman one.
@@jonathanspivey437if you only watch the movies and shows you would think cheetah is super weak. Like she’s not amazing or anything but they be doing her dirty lol
@@Chef_Alpo Which is just hilarious. They make a big deal out of Jason’s change, but it still feel corporate safe, because they refuse to kill some villain they probably wouldn’t use anyway.
That collar kind of makes it look like she likes it wild style. Also why the fuck are they trying to put her in the back of a police car? You need a van for her.
I could understand where Batman is coming from by not killing, it’s a slippery slope. But there are those in Gotham who has caused soo much harm to those living there
its more to him, Bruce knows he is INSANE - he is just as bonkers as his rogues ... and his RULES are the thing that is holding him on the side of good ... thats why he has the no kill rule because he knows his broken mind would spiral out of control if he let it happen even once - that DOESNT mean it will apply to OTHERS however despite hack writers always treating the "no kill rule or you go villain" as aplicable to everyone ... even lets say thousands of years old amazonian warriors, active military fighter pilots or survivors of Martian civil war ...
saying killing is a slippery slope is like saying cops should never use lethal force on armed/dangerous suspects because they will turn into insane murderous psychopaths killing a person will not drive you insane, especially when it's justified
@@HACKER-ct6hdRead Harry Potter and the Half-blood Prince. It is not about what they have done, it is how alive they are. There are several in-universe discussions as to why superheroes can not/should not kill.
Neither of the _"Red Hood films"_ the org or the redux (( _DitF_ )) have Red Robin in that _Earth 22 Kingdom Come_ garb in them, from my memory anyway.
Just because they can't doesn't mean u should. Batman knows this well and knows he will be just like them if he gives in. It was always a thing for the joker to do to the bat. To break him
@@xm26legend31people like you should be registered in a “willing to die for the big picture” type deal. Like when the Joker is gonna sacrifice someone for his evil scheme, he goes through the registry and finds you. Yknow cause, you got a bleeding heart and all.
They are, the villains are too. Gotta remember the difference between these guys and Randy the prison guard. Also government programs like the suicide squad release villains for their own use.
@@keenari0470 there’s a DC Abridged series that plays with that in a way the comics should really think about using. Basically, The Light gives its members clones, which Joker abuses. As Joker knows that this is happening, he plays into it trying to get Bats to kill him. Bats also has a genuine reason on top of his no kill rule to not kill Joker. Joker doesn’t get a clone when he’s still alive, so he knows where Joker is after he catches him.
@@sevenclovers7 jus a wild idea, if you have a prison for super villain you dont put Randy the prison guard in charge of it, you hire someone with super powers or you put Amazo Robots in charge of it, or maybe you put the prison in some place that is impossible to escape from.
BATMAN catches crime boss : I AM THE CONSEQUENCE!! I AM THE VENGEANCE!! I AM THE NIGHT!! I AM THE BATM... RED ROBIN : BANG !! BANG !! BANG !! BANG !! BANG !! BANG !! BANG !!! BATMAN : ...*... Background music - " another one bites the dust ." 🎶
Nooo not Cheetah!! She had the potential to be great!! Her story is really heartbreaking. She became friends with Diana, and ended up being taken as the avatar of a cheetah god. Now she is unable to escape said god. Much like Diana, she will be forced to live and watch all her friends and family die out. And maybe eventually they can reconcile before the two die. Their friendship was ripped from them because of the stupid cheetah god. They deserve happiness. Wonder Woman still hasn’t given up on Cheetah, and still sees hope for her. Barbara Anne Minerva deserved so much more.
@@ravencollins5638 huh. I got a crush on her just from her being herself, then I saw her and Diana flirt with each other in the comics and just: “wow… she is way out of my league… I should leave her to a woman who deserves her”
I absolutely HATE it when these writers mix and match up the characters however they want to ‼️Jason Todd was NEVER “Red Robin”, Tim Drake was/is‼️Jason Todd was/is the “Red Hood”‼️The writers keep trying to switch both Jason Todd’s and Tim Drake’s characters into the other. They also have the habit of degrading/killing Dick Grayson as much as possible‼️
@@nerdiklesIt’s an interactive remaster of under the red hood for dvd, you can choose your own adventure and this is what happens if Batman dies saving Jason and Jason goes down the path of revenge killing joker in Bruce’s name.
@@nerdikles While this may be fan made, I have lost count of the number of times that writers have done it. I’m a big fan of the Cartoon Network’s version of The Batman Adventures, but, the writers pulled the same BS of combining Jason Todd’s backstory with Tim Drake’s character. Jason Todd’s Robin wasn’t liked by the long time fans, but, Tim Drake’s Robin was extremely popular‼️The writers obviously liked Jason Todd’s version over Tim Drake’s version,which was a more of a modern update of Dick Grayson’s version.
@@firstnamelastname9237 308 tends to go trough skulls rather easy, even with hunting-grade ammo. And since he was going for the headshot the rifle didn't really matter much either, could've been some cheap m700 w/ any x4 scope thrown on top of it.
@@J--12 Human skulls. Cheetah's superhuman and tends to contend with a bulletproof super strong superhuman. Could say maybe it's how precise it is but pretty sure a hit from wonder woman should be worse than a bullet.
"The people are terriffied by batman's murderous companion" Nnaaaaah, if Gotham was real people would be throwing parades for the dude. He'd get a freaking statue and a golden star in some street for his efforts. Imagine the Joker trying to nuke the city for the millionth time and this dude claps him, instant national hero
Lock Down really was a Hero in the Batman Animated Series. The Government of Gotham would rather throw Joker or 2 Face in Arkham for the zillionth time rather than executing them for having a murder count too high to fathom.
The dude is killing street muggers and detained criminals. He is literally every police brutality story but with out even the allusion of accountability. Do you think Gotham’s located in Texas?!?
Evil can't be cured, only killed is probably true. But the moment when we as humans refuse to allow even the smallest glimpse of possibility and hope for Evil to repent, is when we also lose our humanity. When we take the mantle of becoming God and decide on who should live or die. I'm not religious but there is much to be said when you play God in our reality: we shouldn't.
That’s because this movie is “Batman: Death in the Family”. This movie can become an interactive movie where us viewers choose what happens. In this reality, Jason survived and becomes the Red Robin and starts killing all the criminals of Gotham.
I’m sooo glad someone else noticed this, I was going to say that? Red hood vibes but with the wrong robin? But then again I forgot about the interactive one where you decide the outcomes so I’m guessing this is just one of those 🤷🏾♂️
Devil’s Advocate / Head Cannon: In order for for those restraints to hold Cheetah, they were likely made from a special metal. If that metal was something like Nth Metal, it’s possible that restraints were disrupting her magical/divine transformation; weakening her to the point she was vulnerable to attacks that she otherwise wouldn’t be.
Woah batman captured cheetah that's a really strong villain that's wonder womens Arch nemesis she got full body amps and with speed and agility rivalling weak speedsters and claws so sharp and with magic too that's a crazy batman feat
@pkroninverse7307 that's just eye from an eye. Also if you thnik about it. You do that to them. Their family will come looking for vengeance against you and if they succeed, your family will go for vengeance against them. When does the cycle of violence end.
@user-xi4bl8jg5v Also, Superman. Clark would go out of his way to avoid killing to the point where he's literally allowed people he cares about to die as collateral damage.
@@rafaelsantos-nl9jd The point is that she absolutely believes evil can be cured and only kills when there is no other option, just like superman. A lot of portrayals of wonder woman outside of the comics and in elseworlds portray her as just a killer, but her greatest and most iconic runs, such as the Perez run, gail simone, greg rucka, etc, show that she is first and foremost an advocate for peace and redemption that kills only as an absolute last resort. So "Evil can't be cured. only killed" is not based for wonder woman or superman, or really the majority of DC heroes.
@@connoc5078 yes, Diana use killing like last option, but she still considers it a option, she will try any other option, but if they fail she will 100% kill
Why did the woman that was literally being threatened to be stabbed scream? Lmfao Like bruh if somebody shoots an attacker of mine, at worst you getting dapped up.
There was a Punisher "What if?" Comice where Punisher went to Gotham. Crime nearly disappeared within a month, because every one of Batman's "Rogue Gallery" became a corpse and nobody was stupid enough to try anything while the Punisher was in town. In a situation like Gotham, the lack of leathal force is about as backwards thinking as you can get.
So it's an alternate dc where military training and an automatic rifle can bring down the likes of riddler, joker, penguin, and bane? The multiverse really is a big place
@@shealupkes the vast majority of Batman's rogues gallery are just humans, and a bullet works just fine. Bane is the only one that might take an anti-tank round, because in the original lore, he had internal armor around his vital organs, not sure they kept that in later versions.
@@13shadowwolf yes and so is Bruce, I don't need to tell you how disrespectful it is to get a batman story where a villains means of eliminating him is by simply shooting him
@@shealupkes "disrespectful"? More like "realistic"; Batman should be wearing a suit of bulletproof armor, his plot armor is so thick it's boring to read anything to do with the character. His moral stances don't work in the world that he exists within. Someone once did an analysis of all the people Joker has killed, and the number of times Batman "stopped" him, it makes Batman look like a self-centered psychopath to not-kill the Joker when you look at how many people the Joker has killed over the years. Batman knows Joker is going to escape, and he knows Jokers will not stop. It's like doing catch and release with a rabid tiger that is absolutely going to keep killing no matter what you do. Batman's moral stance, has cost tens of thousands of people their lives.
@@13shadowwolf realism is not a factor it's a tool, a tool I'll agree too few batman writers use when depicting Bruce's no kill rule, he'll try his damndest to keep someone like joker imprisoned but if given a trolley problem I feel like he'd pull the trigger, and would do so as Bruce Wayne so batmans rule would not be broken
I say in their world the threats are far to powerful to go it alone. If the Earth villains or Earth heroes ever just destroy the other side a non Earth threat will easily overpower the remaining side.
@@tunderstorm2769Yeah I've heard of Red Hood. Have you never heard of Red Robin, because that's who's in the video and his first appearance was in 1996.
@@ShadowRulah seriously. Cheatah was already in custody, and it's not like she's despot that kills for teh lulz like Joker. Would RR kill Catwoman too?
Pretty sure cheetah survived an elephant hunting gun shot straight to the face during the suicide squad comic and was only knocked out for a brief moment. Unless the bullet was enchanted in some way that allowed it to counteract her magical durability. Don’t count that other dc movie where cheetah got taken out but flipping reg gunshots……that was so strange how every super powered squad me ever died yet boomer(human) harley( enhanced cap like strength level at best) and king shark (I understand this one) somehow killed these enhance paradooms till they went kaboom
Its inconsistent. Harley Quinn's super atrength also is an inconsistency. She went from timid psychiatrist to leaping dozens of feet in the air for no reason other than "villain"
Tbh, Batman is the crazy one, for letting evil continue on. If you want to end evil, you end it. That doesn’t make you evil. I never understood why heroes never understood that, in hindsight the situations would resolve if heroes killed their villains…
That invites others to fill in the spot who could be way worse for both the city and its citizens. Gothem is crime ridden, but those crime lords know that without them that city will spiral down worse to the point of collapse. I wish it were that simple but unfortunately gothem is just screwed no matter which way you try and turn it
Some maniac running around killing people? They don’t know what rules Now You’re Dead Red judges people on. How bad is his bad? What if he starts killing people over petty crimes? It’s one thing to say that’d be nice, it’s another to have to live with that. They’d also be worried about Bloody Robin escalating. How do you know Gun Red leaves Gotham for a nice hunting trip? Or kills you even if you go straight, like Punisher does?
@sevenclovers7 El Salvador. The country. The previous murder capital of the world. The current president campaigned on being hard on crime and won his election in a landslide. Under him, the country is extremely harsh on the country's gangs and the murder rate dropped 70% in a single year.
Not really looks like there just talking about a vigilante killing other criminals in cold blood where's the sympathy and no cold blood isn't a example of sympathy
Bro putting Batman out of a job, I dont think Batman is necessarily a hero just someone who wants to pretend to be one and has the money to do it. He doesnt allow other heroes in his "turf" to help either meaning he'd rather let people get victimized rather than share the spotlight
Surprisingly no Gotham in the comics is magically cursed to always produce the worst possible “monster” it can for each era it’s in and the greater the heroes rise up to face them the greater the evil the curse produces If you kill joker, the curse will just make a worse joker in a month. But if you contain joker, he just escapes after a while with the curse keeping the government from executing him
@@TheBaguetteSpy This was put in place to explain why Gotham never gets any better despite Bruce Wayne throwing so much money at the problems it has through charity and vigilantism I think it’s stupid but that’s comics
...then he left Gotham and formed a chain of local 'fast food' restaurants with his name...
🎵 Red Robin 🎶
🎶YUM~🎵
Makes sense lol
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“Several notorious crime lords were gunned down in cold blood.” Honey, they are crime lords. Blood can’t be *that* cold…
Nah they be like lizards they're just like that
"killed in cold blood". she said it like they were model citizens and not... well, crime lords, psychopathic murderers, drug dealers and terrorists. i can't with this universe.
It’s already stupid when Batman stops heroes from killing, but the public reacting negatively to it is a level of stupid I can’t contend with
Sounds like how the news talks about criminals now, remember george floyd
Wouldn’t that be good news!? 📰 I’m confused I’d be happy to hear that.
“He has been deemed The Red Robin.”
My Brain:Yummmm
You ever had the scorpion burger? It goes craaaazyy 🤤
@ASSASSIN_BUG_77 take their best items on the menu and start making them at home. Trust me, nothing beats it, specially not them
@dustymuffinsss8879 yea, anything home made is better, the only problem is, I don't have ready access to scorpion peppers, lol
"In unrelated news, crime in Gotham coincidentally down by 95%."
Crime doesn't go away, it just hides for awhile.
@@Thornbloomjust think of what good could be done under the Dent Act!
@@makvande576shit if maybe that was the case we wouldn’t have the sadistic and cold calculated two-face we all know now would we
No one has ever filled in a power vacume
>thinking anyone can fill the powr vacoom of the joker, several mob bosses and the riddler in a night
I HIGHLY doubt citizens of Gotham would actually be upset if someone started killing supervillains
They wouldnt be that upset at criminal dying, but people would believe its a new super criminal jackass getting rid of the competition before thinking its a vigilante.
Even worse its a STRONGER criminal that show up.
That what i would belive if i didnt have real life info on what going on.
Did anything in this clip imply that the citizens were upset?
@@Corey_Tenderson”but many citizens are unnerved by Batman’s murderous former partner”
@@chancewhitehall1172 oh fuck, I missed that
@@Corey_Tenderson😂😂😂
Tim is going to have a branding issue later thanks to Jason.
Just like when he took over as Nightwing & Dick had to take him down then
Facts
I think Jason was Red Robin before Tim. He went to a different earth, where Batman started killing after the death of his Jason Todd, becoming Red Robin because that earth's Batman wanted a partner, not a sidekick.
Batman : “Come on Jason, if there’s no more criminals to fight then I’m just some idiot in a bat costume.”
😂😂😂😂😂
Jason: Good. Fuck you.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Technically he kinda is regardless
He is either way, don't need criminals for that.
"If you kill a killer the number of killers remains the same."
Jason Todd probably: "Then I'll kill a whole bunch of them."
Punisher: "I didn't stop at One."
@@13shadowwolf exactly
>if you kill someone that kills others, commits disproportionate amounts of crime, and shows no signs of respect for general society, the number of killers remains the same
What a stupid saying
That saying never made sense because there would be one less killer and yeah you’d be one too but that doesn’t mean the amount of killers would remain the same. And if you killed multiple killers then the number of killers left would be lower. Plus every day and year there’s always a new or new killers made so why not go ahead and make that number lower especially if it’s getting rid of bad people.
@@markopolo6887you need to go back to math class
*Red Hood Goes To Work*
Punisher: I like the way you work Kid!
His new party member.
Ghost Rider to Jason:
Well I just wanna say that I’m huge fan
can you imagine Red Hood with powers of Ghost Rider ? ... Gotham would be declared crime free zone and safest city on the planet within a week ...
@@AsghaadBlood Hood sounds like a cool name for that type of scenario
@@thecrimsonrayschaos5690god damn are you right- that makes me wanna draw it
@@Asghaad a week? bro will have gotham be the cleanest city after a night
Nah, I think if you combined the characters, Jason would quickly see most people aren't evil enough to be affected by the "Soul burn"
Jason is red hood
Tim is red Robin
Red hood kills
Red Robin is incredibly wholesome and serves unlimited fries
I'm glad someone in here actually knows that.
Thank you
I had to scroll for a while to find this buried here
Why did they call him Red Robin? Was that Todd’s name before he took up Red Hood? Or was it actually Drake that was killing here?
@@kitsune.u4ea this is almost the same as a scene from the Red Hood movie so it's probably an edited thing or just typical WB ruining good stories
There ain’t no way they actually said “Notorious crime lords gunned down in cold blood” lmao. Pretty sure crime lords order people to be “gunned down in cold blood” all the time 😂
Cold blood just means the perpetrator did it in a cold and calculated way, no mercy, and when the person being killed wasn't fighting or prepared for it (may not even be aware it's happening). Like premeditated murder tends to be in cold blood, because they planned that out and did it with a precision that shows it wasn't a heat of the moment thing.
It is super weird they put cheetah here, not even a batman villain and not likely to be able to be killed by a bullet
Yep. It's stupid.
Even shackled up, she would've had the reflexes to dodge it, or throw herself to the ground.
In the comics Jason did shoot godzilla with a specialized gun so at this point I'm not surprised
@@beauwalker9820 Exactly! She fights the likes of wonder woman and should be able to easily break free from handcuffs
Even if she didn't dodge it, I'm pretty sure she's bulletproof.
Criminals getting more sympathy than their victims
I've always hated when a crook somehow gets more sympathy from people than the actual victims sometimes, especially when it happens irl
I don’t see anything in this clip that implies they are getting sympathy. The news simply reported that someone is killing notorious criminals.
@@Corey_Tenderson yeah, in "cold blood", as if they were some random citizens
@@Enoch610 you have no idea what the term cold blood means, do you? It just means to killing without mercy, which is exactly what Jason did. It doesn’t mean the victims were good people.
@@Corey_Tenderson I had no idea but now I do, thanks.
"You see Batsy, the Kid's a natural Hahahahahahaha!!!!!"
Joker definitely
not a bad film, but honestly, pales in comparison to Under the Red Hood, the one it spins off from
The diner scene alone makes this one 8.5 out of 10 for me
To be fair, Under the Red Hood is still the best DC animated film they ever did - nothing holds a candle to it.
Movie name?
Death in The family
It's an interactive movie where you make the choices with your remote and there's multiple endings.
Unfortunately, the movie on HBO Max doesn't let you actually make choices so you have to get the actual movie or watch it somewhere else 🏴☠️
Punisher: FINALLY!!! One of your proteges woke up.
Batman: Unlike your wife
@@connorharnage6697 Punisher just like your parents.
"Cof" kingping "Cof"
and then realizes he's in the wrong universe
@mantisolivares Dude it is a joke and FYI they have had crossovers. For example their is one issue where Punisher went toe to toe with the Joker.
*Some guys kills a hundred* News: Meh
*Jason kills anyone* News: Unforgivable
You can't murder a crime boss in "cold blood" as far as im concerned
It means either no agression on the part of the victim or no the cold, calculating demeanor of the assailant.
Cold blood just means premeditated
Yeah, blood is warm.
What if he was killed in warm blood? 🤔
@@vulgardisplayofpink5668 that means he fought back.
Cheetah suffers the worst power scaling of any villain in the DC universe. One minute, she's singlehandedly fighting the Justice League, going toe to toe with Flash and WW. The next minute she’s getting put down by street-level heroes.
Calling Batman or red hood street level is wild considering that if they were bad guys than they could literally take out the entirety of the justice league alone.
It’s about finding and exploiting weaknesses, don’t let the fight be on their terms, plan it out well enough and anyone is game to them
Plus they justice league never actually tried to kill her
@@ziadeternal4415 Im talking about Batwoman and Catwoman when I said street-level
@@SirDubbs gotchu; my bad man
Batman : if you kill a killer, the number of killer remain the same
Robin : watch me destroy your argument with facts and logic
People who kill others in car accident: i beg to differ.
Only the first time you do it
-And bullets.
Jason : "Uh huh. What happens if I kill 2, then?"
Batman : "Uh...shit, I didn't think of that..."
“The Red Robi-“
Jason: “MF ITS RED HOOD DONT NAME ME AFTER NO BURGER JOINT”
Yum...
@@Tyrexl050
Tim and jason:MOTHER FU
🤣🤣
But that is red robin
I haven't actually seen the movie this is from, but I'm pretty sure that's Jason in the Red Robin suit and for some weird reason they gave him Tim's moniker and costume instead of just making him Red Hood.
Though this isn't the first time Jason and Tim got mixed together.
B:TAS and Batman Beyond also mixed their characters together into a single one.
It’s not about superheroes refusing to kill, it’s about failure of justice system. Batman doesn’t need to kill, court needs to have proper verdicts and means to uphold them.
Exactly! People forget Batman only exist to fight criminals that the justice system let's go.
@@moxflied wich he then puts in to be processed by the criminal justice system, who then lets them go, and the cycle repeats, dont forget gotham crimw rate is shit high, and people work for mob bosses and criminal gangs, becuase they pay better, if a influencial company like say Wanetech, were to push towards better pay for people and citezens they wouldnt need to turn to crime to support themselves and their familys, crime bosses just do what Mega Corps do, but without government protection, Joker litterally does more to help the people of gotham than batman, if batman wanted to save gotham he would have, as bruce wane, but becuase his parents were shot by criminals, becuase they wpre fucking jewelery around thier neck that probably could have fed that criminal for years(given gotham economy) and kills them, batman sees the criminal as the bad guy, but not the true injustice that cuases the criminals to commit crime, batman is a very well written hero, but also a really Evil one that plays on his own Ego and Self-Reichiousness
Thank you so f*cking much for being the only other goddamn sensible individual in this comment section; the government is the one failing you. Why are you blaming the only person actually doing something just because he doesn’t want to have to live with killing someone. The dude already has trauma related to watching his parents die and yall mfs are desperate to make him kill. Yall need some help if you can’t see how absolutely f*cked it is to act like he’s doing something wrong by not killing when he doesn’t have to kelp anyone at all. He has no obligation to help anyone; quit complaining when does.
haters are desperate to clown anyone for anything, even when it’s just a dude deciding to not kill someone. How are you going to clown someone for not killing? Are you dumb, a hypocrite, or just sociopathic? Regardless your opinions are invalid
Veredict, the chair: 😮
They could never make me hate you Jason Todd
It's funny to think that they only killed him in the first place because the fans hated him
"After Batman apprehended Cheetah for the 17th time following her most recent escape last week an unidentified man in a mask was a spotted rolling his eyes and actually did something to stop her."
How did he kill Cheetah with a single shot from a pistol when she can take punches from Wonder Woman and Superman without going down?
And as for Batman regularly catching her, she's primarily a wonder woman villain, not a Batman one.
@@jonathanspivey437if you only watch the movies and shows you would think cheetah is super weak. Like she’s not amazing or anything but they be doing her dirty lol
Only in the comic books would anyone care that criminal leaders were killed off, or "unnerved" by whoever did it...
But when Batfleck started killing criminals everyone started crying...
@@josezamarron1064
I know, hypocrisy.
So strange that they chose Cheetah instead of any of Batman’s rogues.
They didn't want to kill anyone relevant, yet.
@@Chef_Alpo
That! And also show some boobs.
The idea could be looked at that Jason is willing to take out anybody regardless if they are from Gotham originally.
@@Chef_Alpo which is ashame since she is Wonder Woman’s arch rival. Been one of my favorites since Justice League when it aired on Toonami.
@@Chef_Alpo Which is just hilarious. They make a big deal out of Jason’s change, but it still feel corporate safe, because they refuse to kill some villain they probably wouldn’t use anyway.
I was never a fan of this Red Robin outfit, but for some reason in this cartoon it looks really good.
Seeing cheetah bite the bullet like that hurt my soul.
Just take solace in the fact that it's just a dumb movie with bad writing. Just ignore shit like this.
Furry?🤨
@@nobuzillaMayhaps
Batman remembering his hookup with Cheetah in one of the Justice League episodes: OK, time to reign Robin in...
@@Acesahn Such an intense moment.
Poor Cheeta she's honeslty not that bad compared to most villains.
She also wouldn't be held captive by some shackles or killed by a bullet.
That collar kind of makes it look like she likes it wild style. Also why the fuck are they trying to put her in the back of a police car? You need a van for her.
Still a.murderer, just not a mass murderer like some Gotham villains (especially Joker).
@ImperativeGames Eh,true but it most comics she's pretty chill.
I could understand where Batman is coming from by not killing, it’s a slippery slope. But there are those in Gotham who has caused soo much harm to those living there
its more to him, Bruce knows he is INSANE - he is just as bonkers as his rogues ... and his RULES are the thing that is holding him on the side of good ...
thats why he has the no kill rule because he knows his broken mind would spiral out of control if he let it happen even once - that DOESNT mean it will apply to OTHERS however despite hack writers always treating the "no kill rule or you go villain" as aplicable to everyone ... even lets say thousands of years old amazonian warriors, active military fighter pilots or survivors of Martian civil war ...
saying killing is a slippery slope is like saying cops should never use lethal force on armed/dangerous suspects because they will turn into insane murderous psychopaths
killing a person will not drive you insane, especially when it's justified
@@HACKER-ct6hdRead Harry Potter and the Half-blood Prince.
It is not about what they have done, it is how alive they are.
There are several in-universe discussions as to why superheroes can not/should not kill.
@@ladvargleinad7566 Harry Potter is dog shit so no, injustice is a better and more interesting example
This movie is called Batman: Death in the family
Nope, es otra
It’s diff one
Neither of the _"Red Hood films"_ the org or the redux (( _DitF_ )) have Red Robin in that _Earth 22 Kingdom Come_ garb in them, from my memory anyway.
What movie exactly is this??🤔🧐
@@victorlopez995please can you tell me the name?
Guess he took a page out of Punisher’s book.
Punisher's leaflet
@@CactusCowboyDan twas teh Poonishers prapooganda
“Unnerved by Batman’s former partner” bro is cleaning the streets permanently
I totally did not click on the video because of the thumbnail.
Lmao
The fact that there's a few folks here that don't realize this is why cheetah was included in the thumbnail makes this slighty funnier
I did. I was wondering why Cheetara was half nekkid in a thing about batman
Saaaame 😏
Smash.
Here's the thing. They're both right and they're both wrong. Some evil CAN be cured. Some can't.
Agreed
Just because they can't doesn't mean u should. Batman knows this well and knows he will be just like them if he gives in. It was always a thing for the joker to do to the bat. To break him
@@xm26legend31people like you should be registered in a “willing to die for the big picture” type deal. Like when the Joker is gonna sacrifice someone for his evil scheme, he goes through the registry and finds you. Yknow cause, you got a bleeding heart and all.
You would ALWAYS catch me lacking when it involves a furry girl
Same
Anthro
Just saying, if the prisons were competent, it wouldn't be a problem
They are, the villains are too. Gotta remember the difference between these guys and Randy the prison guard.
Also government programs like the suicide squad release villains for their own use.
Also, also, this is a comic book. For some reason when people die, they never stay dead so what’s the big deal if they die?
@@keenari0470 there’s a DC Abridged series that plays with that in a way the comics should really think about using.
Basically, The Light gives its members clones, which Joker abuses. As Joker knows that this is happening, he plays into it trying to get Bats to kill him.
Bats also has a genuine reason on top of his no kill rule to not kill Joker.
Joker doesn’t get a clone when he’s still alive, so he knows where Joker is after he catches him.
@@sevenclovers7 jus a wild idea, if you have a prison for super villain you dont put Randy the prison guard in charge of it, you hire someone with super powers or you put Amazo Robots in charge of it, or maybe you put the prison in some place that is impossible to escape from.
@@rafaelsantos-nl9jd totally agree
BATMAN catches crime boss : I AM THE CONSEQUENCE!! I AM THE VENGEANCE!! I AM THE NIGHT!! I AM THE BATM...
RED ROBIN : BANG !! BANG !! BANG !! BANG !! BANG !! BANG !! BANG !!!
BATMAN : ...*...
Background music - " another one bites the dust ." 🎶
🎯🎯🎯
. . . And in more ways than one! 😁
That’s not the only thing cheetah bit. 😂
Nooo not Cheetah!! She had the potential to be great!! Her story is really heartbreaking. She became friends with Diana, and ended up being taken as the avatar of a cheetah god. Now she is unable to escape said god. Much like Diana, she will be forced to live and watch all her friends and family die out. And maybe eventually they can reconcile before the two die. Their friendship was ripped from them because of the stupid cheetah god. They deserve happiness. Wonder Woman still hasn’t given up on Cheetah, and still sees hope for her. Barbara Anne Minerva deserved so much more.
I feel you man, what a crime, she also has a great personality 🗿
I only like her because when I was young I saw her kiss Batman and it gave me a crush on her
@@ravencollins5638 huh. I got a crush on her just from her being herself, then I saw her and Diana flirt with each other in the comics and just: “wow… she is way out of my league… I should leave her to a woman who deserves her”
@@MimikPanik2 happens
@@rimanahbvee yea.. still sad.
"The city can't seem to stop saying 'yum' these days"
I absolutely HATE it when these writers mix and match up the characters however they want to ‼️Jason Todd was NEVER “Red Robin”, Tim Drake was/is‼️Jason Todd was/is the “Red Hood”‼️The writers keep trying to switch both Jason Todd’s and Tim Drake’s characters into the other. They also have the habit of degrading/killing Dick Grayson as much as possible‼️
@@nerdiklesIt’s an interactive remaster of under the red hood for dvd, you can choose your own adventure and this is what happens if Batman dies saving Jason and Jason goes down the path of revenge killing joker in Bruce’s name.
@@nerdikles While this may be fan made, I have lost count of the number of times that writers have done it. I’m a big fan of the Cartoon Network’s version of The Batman Adventures, but, the writers pulled the same BS of combining Jason Todd’s backstory with Tim Drake’s character. Jason Todd’s Robin wasn’t liked by the long time fans, but, Tim Drake’s Robin was extremely popular‼️The writers obviously liked Jason Todd’s version over Tim Drake’s version,which was a more of a modern update of Dick Grayson’s version.
@robertwall1419 there might be one instance where I can think of what you are saying. When else do they combine these characters stories?
@@monz3.1ktm31 so... even less of a reason to complain?
Yes he was
Red Robin... 🎵YUM🎵
How is Cheetah killed by a gunshot when she fights Wonder Woman, or am I confusing villains?
No that would indeed be cheetah. Probably just another power inconsistency, but then, it could be a really fancy gun?
@@firstnamelastname9237 308 tends to go trough skulls rather easy, even with hunting-grade ammo. And since he was going for the headshot the rifle didn't really matter much either, could've been some cheap m700 w/ any x4 scope thrown on top of it.
@@J--12 Human skulls. Cheetah's superhuman and tends to contend with a bulletproof super strong superhuman. Could say maybe it's how precise it is but pretty sure a hit from wonder woman should be worse than a bullet.
Dragon Ball Z. Have you never seen the episode where Goku gets hit by a thrown rock unawares and cries out in pain?
@@firstnamelastname9237 Guess she isn't in this iteration of the character.
"The people are terriffied by batman's murderous companion" Nnaaaaah, if Gotham was real people would be throwing parades for the dude. He'd get a freaking statue and a golden star in some street for his efforts. Imagine the Joker trying to nuke the city for the millionth time and this dude claps him, instant national hero
Lock Down really was a Hero in the Batman Animated Series.
The Government of Gotham would rather throw Joker or 2 Face in Arkham for the zillionth time rather than executing them for having a murder count too high to fathom.
The dude is killing street muggers and detained criminals. He is literally every police brutality story but with out even the allusion of accountability.
Do you think Gotham’s located in Texas?!?
@@notapumadid you not watch that episode? There is literally no way to watch it that doesn’t make it clear why he’s insane
@@j1227 He killed the joker, Riddler, black mask and cheetah☠️
@@herohunter5961joker and black mask killed by a bullet? Now I've seen everything
Evil can't be cured, only killed is probably true. But the moment when we as humans refuse to allow even the smallest glimpse of possibility and hope for Evil to repent, is when we also lose our humanity. When we take the mantle of becoming God and decide on who should live or die. I'm not religious but there is much to be said when you play God in our reality: we shouldn't.
Exactly. Injustice is all about if Supes decide to just "stop" all crime. Ends up being worse than the criminals.
On aan unrelated note, cheetah be lookin fine
What a waste...
For a freaky, killer, mutant, animal, freak women, she is kinda cute.
@@J--12not a waste when there's now an extra hole
@@kanerowan1534 💀💀💀
@@J--12definitely a waste of
For some reason, I thought he would've spared Cheetah for personal reasons.
I think the worst part is that because of that mindset he would never understand why some of these villains are villains. Like Dr. Freeze.
1. Isn't that tim drake? 2. There was definitely a scene in there from "under the red hood" but with this robin drawn over the red hood
That’s because this movie is “Batman: Death in the Family”. This movie can become an interactive movie where us viewers choose what happens. In this reality, Jason survived and becomes the Red Robin and starts killing all the criminals of Gotham.
Tim Drake doesn't become (Red) Robin in this timeline. It's all just Jason Todd
I’m sooo glad someone else noticed this, I was going to say that? Red hood vibes but with the wrong robin? But then again I forgot about the interactive one where you decide the outcomes so I’m guessing this is just one of those 🤷🏾♂️
So red Robin is just alternate red hood wannabe?
Jason meets Tim and he becomes Jason's sidekick in this universe
Cheetah wouldnt be killed by a simple sniper she is going at it with Wonder Woman H24
Is her super-power having full body level 7 protection against bullets? If not then she probably didn't make it.
@@J--12she’s not some freak of nature like Killer Croc. Her appearance is a result of being empowered by the god Urzkartaga.
What if the bullet went through her eye though?
@@braum3978 Still impossible we are talking about WW here she is not just fighting spiderman or a batman villain she is empowered by the gods
If they have bullet for superman they for sure will have a bullet for this b...
Damm my favorite villain crush dies just like that….. damm u Jason
Red Robins YUM
Red Robins YUM
Red Robin YUM!!!
Red Robins YUM
That’s why Jason will always be my GOAT
*True peace comes from the end, not from the start and the middle. Peace is reward itself.*
I never thought I’d see the day someone would put Jason Todd in Tim Drake’s outfit…
They really thought to themselves "Hey how do we take everything cool about the red hood and ruin it?"
Batman: Death in the Family. You're welcome guys
Why is Jason dressed as Red Robin?
@@scatman786 It depends on what choices you make for him in the movie.
@CG-sf1uw what ? Im confused and seen the movie but didn't recognize the clip
@@stevv3614 It's a interactive film, you can make decisions for Jason Todd.
That’s not the movie.
Devil’s Advocate / Head Cannon: In order for for those restraints to hold Cheetah, they were likely made from a special metal. If that metal was something like Nth Metal, it’s possible that restraints were disrupting her magical/divine transformation; weakening her to the point she was vulnerable to attacks that she otherwise wouldn’t be.
Woah batman captured cheetah that's a really strong villain that's wonder womens Arch nemesis she got full body amps and with speed and agility rivalling weak speedsters and claws so sharp and with magic too that's a crazy batman feat
Probably written by mark waid or some other massive batman dickrider.
Justice can be vengeance. 🎉
But it’s not always, remember that.
@@brookelynnwu8016but It can be destroyed
In what universe. Justice and Vengance are exact Polar opposites. In not a single scenario would justice demand additional deaths or maiming.
@@danielbalderrama4137 in my book it does Those who caused us pain and his associates deserve no Mercy
@pkroninverse7307 that's just eye from an eye. Also if you thnik about it. You do that to them. Their family will come looking for vengeance against you and if they succeed, your family will go for vengeance against them. When does the cycle of violence end.
I’m not killing anyone beyond self defense in a place where Hell exists.
"Evil can't be cured. only killed" based for just literally everyone but Batman
@user-xi4bl8jg5v Also, Superman. Clark would go out of his way to avoid killing to the point where he's literally allowed people he cares about to die as collateral damage.
Based for literally everyone but most superheroes, including batman, superman, wonder woman, the flash, etc.
@@connoc5078 Wonder Woman 100% Kills
@@rafaelsantos-nl9jd The point is that she absolutely believes evil can be cured and only kills when there is no other option, just like superman.
A lot of portrayals of wonder woman outside of the comics and in elseworlds portray her as just a killer, but her greatest and most iconic runs, such as the Perez run, gail simone, greg rucka, etc, show that she is first and foremost an advocate for peace and redemption that kills only as an absolute last resort.
So "Evil can't be cured. only killed" is not based for wonder woman or superman, or really the majority of DC heroes.
@@connoc5078 yes, Diana use killing like last option, but she still considers it a option, she will try any other option, but if they fail she will 100% kill
Why did the woman that was literally being threatened to be stabbed scream? Lmfao Like bruh if somebody shoots an attacker of mine, at worst you getting dapped up.
There was a Punisher "What if?" Comice where Punisher went to Gotham.
Crime nearly disappeared within a month, because every one of Batman's "Rogue Gallery" became a corpse and nobody was stupid enough to try anything while the Punisher was in town.
In a situation like Gotham, the lack of leathal force is about as backwards thinking as you can get.
So it's an alternate dc where military training and an automatic rifle can bring down the likes of riddler, joker, penguin, and bane? The multiverse really is a big place
@@shealupkes the vast majority of Batman's rogues gallery are just humans, and a bullet works just fine.
Bane is the only one that might take an anti-tank round, because in the original lore, he had internal armor around his vital organs, not sure they kept that in later versions.
@@13shadowwolf yes and so is Bruce, I don't need to tell you how disrespectful it is to get a batman story where a villains means of eliminating him is by simply shooting him
@@shealupkes "disrespectful"?
More like "realistic"; Batman should be wearing a suit of bulletproof armor, his plot armor is so thick it's boring to read anything to do with the character. His moral stances don't work in the world that he exists within.
Someone once did an analysis of all the people Joker has killed, and the number of times Batman "stopped" him, it makes Batman look like a self-centered psychopath to not-kill the Joker when you look at how many people the Joker has killed over the years. Batman knows Joker is going to escape, and he knows Jokers will not stop. It's like doing catch and release with a rabid tiger that is absolutely going to keep killing no matter what you do.
Batman's moral stance, has cost tens of thousands of people their lives.
@@13shadowwolf realism is not a factor it's a tool, a tool I'll agree too few batman writers use when depicting Bruce's no kill rule, he'll try his damndest to keep someone like joker imprisoned but if given a trolley problem I feel like he'd pull the trigger, and would do so as Bruce Wayne so batmans rule would not be broken
But isn’t Red Robin Tim Drake? He‘s completely different from the Red Hood.
Red robin: I have discount prices...on death!
The mugger no, the crime bosses yes if you plan on dismantling their entire organisation, cheetah maybe, don't know her too well.
The first thought in my mind when she said Red Robin was "Red Robin yum" as in the restaurant. Lol 😂
I say in their world the threats are far to powerful to go it alone. If the Earth villains or Earth heroes ever just destroy the other side a non Earth threat will easily overpower the remaining side.
Robin doing what batman is to weak to do. Actually fix the crime problem in Gotham
Smh. They don't even try to pretend they know these characters anymore...
what? have you never heard of the red hood? its been a thing since the 80s
@@tunderstorm2769Yeah I've heard of Red Hood. Have you never heard of Red Robin, because that's who's in the video and his first appearance was in 1996.
You killed Cheetah! NO!
Menace
he had enough of the villains' bullshitery
I hate comicbook logic😂 Jason is the ONLY one actually cleaning the streets. Why do people call him a murderer for killing bad people? Lol
Because he's literally committing murders. The disconnect is that you think murder is cool.
@@ShadowRulah seriously. Cheatah was already in custody, and it's not like she's despot that kills for teh lulz like Joker.
Would RR kill Catwoman too?
This is not vengeance it's punishment Jason becomes the punisher
cheetah routinely gets punched by wonder woman, no shot just guns are doing her in...
Why is cheetah in Gotham, that is a Wonder Woman villain
Ele está certo! Se ele não mata o bandido, cada morte que aquele bandido causa posteriormente acaba sendo culpa sua também!
I keep forgetting this is a chose your own adventure, cause i keep seeing Jason being at the gang round table
Pretty sure cheetah survived an elephant hunting gun shot straight to the face during the suicide squad comic and was only knocked out for a brief moment. Unless the bullet was enchanted in some way that allowed it to counteract her magical durability. Don’t count that other dc movie where cheetah got taken out but flipping reg gunshots……that was so strange how every super powered squad me ever died yet boomer(human) harley( enhanced cap like strength level at best) and king shark (I understand this one) somehow killed these enhance paradooms till they went kaboom
Its inconsistent. Harley Quinn's super atrength also is an inconsistency. She went from timid psychiatrist to leaping dozens of feet in the air for no reason other than "villain"
Tbh, Batman is the crazy one, for letting evil continue on. If you want to end evil, you end it. That doesn’t make you evil. I never understood why heroes never understood that, in hindsight the situations would resolve if heroes killed their villains…
That invites others to fill in the spot who could be way worse for both the city and its citizens. Gothem is crime ridden, but those crime lords know that without them that city will spiral down worse to the point of collapse. I wish it were that simple but unfortunately gothem is just screwed no matter which way you try and turn it
No, you just have a murder boner.
I agree.
But even in real life there are people that fail to understand this concept, and think criminals that hurt innocent people shouldnt be ended.
Poor cheeta, she’s so cute
Cheeta didnt deserve that..
Wait isn’t Red Robin Tim Drake? And not a killer?
It's a garbage elseworld from Death in the Family
well the crime lords will never commit crime again i would say thats a W
RIP hot cheetah lady
do what you gotta do young fella.
We all know the citizens of Gotham would not be upset about this
Some maniac running around killing people?
They don’t know what rules Now You’re Dead Red judges people on.
How bad is his bad? What if he starts killing people over petty crimes?
It’s one thing to say that’d be nice, it’s another to have to live with that.
They’d also be worried about Bloody Robin escalating. How do you know Gun Red leaves Gotham for a nice hunting trip?
Or kills you even if you go straight, like Punisher does?
@@sevenclovers7exactly, with Batman they know who he goes after, but they don’t know Jason’s limit on what is bad
@@sevenclovers7 look at elsalvador, what do the people there think about there president again???
@@theonesithtorulethemall who?
@sevenclovers7 El Salvador. The country. The previous murder capital of the world. The current president campaigned on being hard on crime and won his election in a landslide. Under him, the country is extremely harsh on the country's gangs and the murder rate dropped 70% in a single year.
When your Gov worries about criminals than citizens
It's New York, of course they would.
I can't stop seeing Jason with cowl without Bat ears and can only see him as _"Man"_ now.
What's crazy yet familiar that they are shocked and oddly sympathetic to the criminals.
Not really looks like there just talking about a vigilante killing other criminals in cold blood where's the sympathy and no cold blood isn't a example of sympathy
But isn't this red Robin also known as tim drake
That's because in this reality jason didn't die so he wasn't replaced by tim
I dont remember this - _Earth 22 Kindgom Come_ "Red Robin garb" being in either Red Hood film (the OG or the _DitF_ redux).
Bro putting Batman out of a job, I dont think Batman is necessarily a hero just someone who wants to pretend to be one and has the money to do it. He doesnt allow other heroes in his "turf" to help either meaning he'd rather let people get victimized rather than share the spotlight
That's a calling card.... He's a serial killer.
Na he didn’t just kill Cheetah, my dangerous fluffy wifu.
Realllll
Please shower immediately
Frank Castle: That's just a regular Tuesday for me.
Red Robin is meant to be Tim Drake.
Also, “Red Robin! Yum!”
The only way to clean up Gotham.
Surprisingly no
Gotham in the comics is magically cursed to always produce the worst possible “monster” it can for each era it’s in and the greater the heroes rise up to face them the greater the evil the curse produces
If you kill joker, the curse will just make a worse joker in a month. But if you contain joker, he just escapes after a while with the curse keeping the government from executing him
@@Kingdomkey123678 Seems like plot armour to make Batman seem relevant
@@TheBaguetteSpy
This was put in place to explain why Gotham never gets any better despite Bruce Wayne throwing so much money at the problems it has through charity and vigilantism
I think it’s stupid but that’s comics
@@Kingdomkey123678 The stupidest plot point to make the criminals relevant
"On another note, sales from food place Red Robin have plummeted in Gotham, and are closing all locations in the city"
Cheetah is hot in almost every iteration.