Ranking the Top 5 Most Evil Non-Culprits in the Nancy Drew PC Game Series!

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  • @seannolan9857
    @seannolan9857 2 года назад +42

    Even though he's not a character properly speaking, I would have included Jake Rogers. Multiple counts of blackmail, and the way he treated Connie pretty much screams 'sociopath'.

    • @WizardKittenYT
      @WizardKittenYT  2 года назад +3

      Ooh, great point!

    • @GraemeCree
      @GraemeCree 2 года назад +3

      Yeah, Jake's a good pick. The twist of that game is that all the characters have done something wrong, which is why they're all plausible culprits. But except for Jake, I wouldn't consider any of them to belong on this list.

    • @sharkyenaqueenm5908
      @sharkyenaqueenm5908 2 года назад +7

      And Hal. Poor guy. The game doesn't really say it, but honestly, the way that he acts make it sound like he has depression due to how overworked, stressed, and guilty he is, and Jake didn't care. I think his treatment of Hal is almost as bad as how he treats Connie, plus the game heavily implies that Jake was racist towards Hal. Hulk and Daryl were involved with legit serious crimes, but Hal copied an essay. Not a good thing to do, but nowhere near as bad as messing around with drugs. I don't think we know enough about Jake to say if he's a sociopath or not, but he was certainly disturbingly sadistic.

    • @AznGoth19
      @AznGoth19 2 года назад +4

      Such a great point - honestly I relate to Hal in so many ways, because I was a studious and isolated kid in high school who was bullied a lot for a number of reasons (racism being one way, I'm a Caucasian/Asian/Native American mix). Granted I never copied an essay or was blackmailed for anything, but kids treated me a lot like how Jake seemed to treat his victims, especially Hal. Your point about him being overworked and having seemingly clinical depression really hits home because I've since been diagnosed with clinical depression and was very overworked between going to a very high-pressure school (academically) while trying to take care of my struggling family at the time. I think it's inspirational that none of the "official" suspects committed the crime, because they all had such strong motives - especially Hal and Connie. The fact that he didn't snap that hard and then was able to remain composed enough to not show relief after having Jake gone shows just how strong of a young man he really is.

    • @sharkyenaqueenm5908
      @sharkyenaqueenm5908 2 года назад +5

      @@AznGoth19 such a good point about your last point. We joke about how little the kids cared about Jake's death, but really, Hulk and Connie are the only ones who are flippant about Jake's murder and are openly glad he's dead. Daryl is mostly ambivalent, but despite all the terrible stuff Jake put him through, Hal actually treats Jake's murder as a very solemn, bad thing that not even Jake deserved. Major props to Hal, he's probably the most emotionally mature person in the cast.

  • @avalasialove
    @avalasialove 2 года назад +15

    I think Izzy strikes a nerve with a lot of people because they can relate to being targeted by people like her. I encountered my fair share of mean girls in elementary school and junior high. It was pretty easy for them to take advantage of me because I’m autistic.

    • @WizardKittenYT
      @WizardKittenYT  2 года назад +3

      That's part of the reason too why I think she deserves an "evil" rating...because she's so scarily realistic!

  • @dragonslayersworkshop8598
    @dragonslayersworkshop8598 2 года назад +14

    I COMPLETELY agree with Topham being on this list- I HATE him for how he causes so much pain to Emily and Jim who are struggling while he’s getting high off the money he’s manipulating people into giving him, the fake psychic stuff also pisses me off. Great video!

  • @chocoscar55
    @chocoscar55 2 года назад +17

    I would love to see your list of favorite allies in the series. The suspects that you maybe really had it out for at the start and suddenly became your biggest help in the mystery. Ryan, Falcone, Grigor, etc. Or maybe people who were framed like Lou, Katie, or Ryan again

    • @WizardKittenYT
      @WizardKittenYT  2 года назад +1

      Ooh, that's an idea! Most helpful suspects!

  • @ashleyw5169
    @ashleyw5169 2 года назад +3

    Another reason Simone is evil: she craves beef franks at 7 am. Who in their right minds wants a hot dog at 7 in the morning!?
    But seriously great list. I LOVE these analysis videos 😊

  • @blueberryney
    @blueberryney 2 года назад +9

    These are really good!! I was screaming “boooo” when we got to Toni, she’s awful and I’d actually switch her with Simone lol

    • @WizardKittenYT
      @WizardKittenYT  2 года назад +4

      I had a really hard time deciding which of them got to be number one 😂

  • @summerreadingnook
    @summerreadingnook 2 года назад +12

    Great video! I think Topham should’ve been considered the culprit; Nancy knew from the start that he had forged Josiah’s will and she spent the whole game trying to prove it, and it was only in the last minute of the game that the whole Jane Willoughby thing distracted her. 🙃
    Although I guess it could be argued that the primary mystery was finding out what was upsetting Emily and who stole her mother’s jewelry, and Jane did that. 🤷‍♀️

    • @WizardKittenYT
      @WizardKittenYT  2 года назад +5

      It is interesting how CLK was structured to only end up focusing on the one culprit! If only Topham had faced more accountability!!

    • @AznGoth19
      @AznGoth19 2 года назад +1

      I was actually going to say the same thing myself - quite honestly, for that reason I think CLK could arguably be the first game with multiple culprits. Jane (really Marion) and Richard were both responsible for half of the crimes in the game, though the ending definitely focused on Marion.

    • @staticradio724
      @staticradio724 Год назад

      @@AznGoth19 Come to think of it, I'd really like to see a game in the future where there truly is more than one culprit. That would certainly throw us all for a loop! (Assuming we get any more games, that is.)

  • @Shaddow953
    @Shaddow953 Год назад +1

    What’s hilarious about this video is that in the book, Secret of the Old Clock, Topom and his two daughters are the culprits of this case.

  • @staticradio724
    @staticradio724 Год назад +2

    I am 110% convinced that JJ should have been on this list for being the worst housemate in France. Why am I making cookies for you? It's not my fault you don't know how to manage your work/life balance, JJ!

    • @WizardKittenYT
      @WizardKittenYT  Год назад

      Lol, good point!

    • @fadalerabrasool3563
      @fadalerabrasool3563 Год назад

      Plus given her lack of care about doing her job despite signing the contract really shows alot about her relationship with minette.

  • @katiehamilton3915
    @katiehamilton3915 2 года назад +3

    At first I was flabbergasted that you said Brady instead of Simone, not even considering you were gonna pull two from that game lol all I had to do was wait lol I’m also incredibly satisfied that Topham and Tony made this list. Tony is the actual worst!!

    • @bytheBrooke
      @bytheBrooke 2 года назад +1

      Same!!! I was like "I thought Simone would have been the evil one from The Final Scene!"
      Glad Simone wound up at the top!

    • @WizardKittenYT
      @WizardKittenYT  2 года назад +1

      LOL, a twist!! :D

  • @jackgarrison8497
    @jackgarrison8497 2 года назад +12

    Toni also pretends that all of Her Icecream is for Free and then Hits You with A Bill in The End Credits for Alibi in Ashes so that is another of The many terrible things that She has done

    • @WizardKittenYT
      @WizardKittenYT  2 года назад +3

      Oh gosh, you're right! Didn't even think of that!

    • @jackgarrison8497
      @jackgarrison8497 2 года назад +1

      @@WizardKittenYT I also don't know if this was done on purpose but Toni also looks very similar to Nancy Pelosi well at least I think that They both look alike

    • @GraemeCree
      @GraemeCree 2 года назад +1

      @@WizardKittenYT Does she? I thought that was Jenna Deblin. With Toni, I always imagined that everything we ate was going on our tab. If she said it wasn't, I must have missed that.

    • @WizardKittenYT
      @WizardKittenYT  2 года назад +1

      @@GraemeCree It's in the credits at the very end of the game. I don't think she ever says it's free, the game just sort of makes it look that way and then there's a surprise bill at the end. It's more just for laughs.

    • @GraemeCree
      @GraemeCree 2 года назад +1

      @@WizardKittenYT Yes, I've seen the bill at the end. But I just checked the game again, and she never says or implies it's free. I always assumed it was going on our tab, and the only funny thing is that we actually got to see the tab.
      Incidentally, I just tried everything on the menu as George, and never got sick. There are at least some games (Crystal Skull?) where Nancy does get sick if she pigs out too much.

  • @sharkyenaqueenm5908
    @sharkyenaqueenm5908 2 года назад +4

    Yes I love that you think that Izzy is the one who framed Mel for plagiarism! I think that having Izzy be the one who framed Mel is much more interesting than having Corine frame her. For one, how would Corine even know Jacob? (is that the boyfriend's name? I don't remember 😅) and two, I like to think that even in her determination to find the Poe manuscript/become valedictorian and willingness to kill/traumatize her classmates, Corine wouldn't attack Mel/frame her for something, because she was the one girl who stood up for her. It makes Corine more interesting, at least. Fingers crossed Izzy didn't become the valedictorian.
    And it really is...interesting(?) that with the exception of Nicholas (and even then he's done some questionable things in the name of protesting) everyone in Final Scene is kinda guilty of something, or otherwise hinders Nancy trying to find Maya. Most characters in that game are awful people, and their blatant disregard for Maya's life really is appalling. Brady smiling as he condemns the theatre with Maya in it on Day 3 is really chilling. Even the police don't care that much (my personal headcanon of this is because of Missing White Woman Syndrome, but that's just me). It does make the stakes seem much higher in that game. Probably why it's in my top five. Good stuff. Mysteries where all of the suspects are terrible people make solving the mystery more exciting and really make you think, "okay which one of you is awful enough to commit the crime?" It really does make you see how terrible Brady and Simone are when Joseph seems a lot more humane compared to them.

    • @WizardKittenYT
      @WizardKittenYT  2 года назад +3

      I totally agree!! That's probably why FIN is one of my favorite games because the character cast is just SO effectively done!

  • @nick-elodeon9919
    @nick-elodeon9919 2 года назад +2

    Now this is WHAT I'm waiting for. Bless you for making this video.

  • @AznGoth19
    @AznGoth19 2 года назад +1

    Lots of excellent points here! I definitely agree with Simone and Toni being the most evil non-culprits (that I can think of off the top of my head anyway). I'm really not sure which one I would rank as #1. Toni was more than happy to let Nancy take the fall and face prosecution, even with full knowledge that she was innocent. But at the same time, Simone was practically emotionally abusive - the funeral wreath was horrid! I was happy with the fact that she was reprimanded for it in the end! I also would've liked to have learned more about the plagiarist subplot in WAC. I do have a feeling it was likely Izzy, though Leela and Corine are also possibilities - Mel did get a second black cat note right before it happened. I always had a feeling that Corine and Izzy were more suspicious than Leela - but I'm not sure which one. The fact that Jacob seemed to have framed her does point to Izzy or Leela, but perhaps Corine sent him instructions through text or e-mail pretending to be one of them? I wish we had answers for it to know for sure!

    • @AznGoth19
      @AznGoth19 2 года назад +1

      Also something else I literally just thought of - since Corine is revealed to have the password for Izzy's computer, could that be a clue that she hacked Izzy's computer and e-mailed Jacob? I never even thought of that until just now!

  • @Fluffymonkeyem
    @Fluffymonkeyem 2 года назад

    Love your analysis videos!I love how you break things down. I'm sure there has to be at least one more truly evil side character, but I can't think of any. I'd love a video on side crooks, everyone who was scheming in the background but not the culprit, evil or not.

  • @EmilySmith-vx3ro
    @EmilySmith-vx3ro 2 года назад

    So happy you made this video!! I’ve been thinking about this for a couple of weeks now. Perhaps I would have added Tino to the list. Maybe he’s not evil, but he’s definitely a bad boy in TRN.

    • @WizardKittenYT
      @WizardKittenYT  2 года назад

      A bad guy for sure! Just missed evil for me because he's too mundane in his actions!

  • @GraemeCree
    @GraemeCree 2 года назад +8

    I'm basically okay with your picks and criteria, although boundaries of their evil should figure in there somewhere. For instance, I'll accept your definition that Izzy is evil, within the parameters of the story (one-upping fellow students and general narcisism). I don't think it necessarily means that she would do anything to anybody. There's probably a wall she could hit that she wouldn't go beyond. On the other hand, even if she never broke the law in her life, she probably didn't grow up to be a very nice or happy person.
    Is Brady evil? Well, judging by your criteria "Cruel and Evil deeds", not exactly. He's more callous and uncaring. It's his non-deeds and non-feeling that make him evil. Rik Arlen is probably as narcisistic as Brady, but doesn't make the list, but he might have if he'd been in the same situation as Brady.
    Topham, absolutely. He's practically the Vice Culprit of the game. Toni, I don't think anyone would defend her.
    Even Simone probably had boundaries of some kind too. There are a lot of people like that who are completely ruthless, but pride themselves on the fact that they haven't and wouldn't actually break the law. They feel that as long as they aren't THAT evil that they aren't evil at all.
    I assume Jane Penvyllyn isn't on the list because she's a minor. But I'd probably give at least an Honorable Mention to Samantha Quick, who seems to be a fairly big time criminal. Ditto for Enrico. But not Tino. He's in way over his head, but he's not a bad guy.

    • @WizardKittenYT
      @WizardKittenYT  2 года назад +3

      I see what you mean. For me it's less of a concrete "did they break the law" and more of a philosophical morality question when determining the level of evil.

    • @GraemeCree
      @GraemeCree 2 года назад +1

      @@WizardKittenYT Oh yes, and that's why I'm okay with calling Izzy evil, but only to a certain degree. She'll probably go only so far and no farther. Simone will go farther than Izzy, but she seems to have her limits too. But Izzy probably thinks that just because she has limits, it means she's not bad at all. Simone probably doesn't care what you think or even know about her, as long as it doesn't send her to jail, or impact her pocketbook.

  • @JordanStar7
    @JordanStar7 2 года назад

    Another incredible thoughtful analysis video 👏🏼

  • @avalasialove
    @avalasialove 2 года назад +1

    You know it’s bad when the only remotely likable characters are the curmudgeonly antique shop owner (Alibi in Ashes) and the literal kidnapper (The Final Scene)! No wonder Nancy never spends any time in River Heights! Almost everyone there (except Ned and her friends) is insufferable!

    • @fadalerabrasool3563
      @fadalerabrasool3563 Год назад

      I also believe Harper is more likeable than clara. Her spooky overly dramatic lines are interesting.

    • @avalasialove
      @avalasialove 8 месяцев назад

      @@fadalerabrasool3563Yeah, the Thortons are a whole other can of worms. Yeesh! And I thought my family had issues…

  • @SamanthaFayeFan1613
    @SamanthaFayeFan1613 2 года назад

    Loved this! What do you think about a “Games with the most unexpected/obvious endings” video?

    • @WizardKittenYT
      @WizardKittenYT  2 года назад +1

      Ooh, like a "culprits I guessed before the ending" video! That'd be fun!

    • @SamanthaFayeFan1613
      @SamanthaFayeFan1613 2 года назад

      @@WizardKittenYT love it!

    • @fadalerabrasool3563
      @fadalerabrasool3563 Год назад

      for me the most obvious was
      deadly device
      alibi in ashes
      ghost of thorton hall
      Unexpected
      the final scene
      Danger on deception island
      curse of blackmoor manor

  • @fadalerabrasool3563
    @fadalerabrasool3563 Год назад

    What also makes simone truly evil is how realistic she is. There are truly evil people in the world especially in her field who are willing to exploit a traumatizing situation for selfish gains without a care in the world.

  • @jacksampsonforever
    @jacksampsonforever 2 года назад

    You through me for a loop by double-dipping in the same game! LOL But a solid video. Is Brady that much worse than Rick Arlen? Although, I think Brady DID more, Rick TALKED more

    • @WizardKittenYT
      @WizardKittenYT  2 года назад +1

      LOL, I see your point! But yes, I focus on the actions. Rick is also a narcissist, but he's not wandering about hiding evidence in a crime where the life of a girl is at stake. He's actually the victim in his mystery, so I give him a pass...for now.

  • @actualaspienc1279
    @actualaspienc1279 2 года назад

    I’ve noticed a couple of commonalities that all these characters share in what motivates them to be “evil”: GREED and EGO
    Most of the people on this list are either in some position of power or high influence (Word of mouth teacher, prestigious academic talent, politics, HOLLYWOOD) and as such only care about maintaining their status at the top of the food chain, not caring who they have to stomp on to keep themselves there, everything is about image and reputation, boosting their own while slandering another (Looking at YOU, TONI)
    Another commonality is greed, be it monetary (such as in Topham’s case) or power (basically everyone else on the list) They want power and influence and prestige and they are perfectly fine with manipulating others in order to get it, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they were cheapskates and manipulated others to make monetary “contributions” (Considering Simone complained about that VILE wreath costing $300 (Yes that is exactly how much it cost, I think I was so mad about it it just stuck like a hot needle) and Toni offers “free” ice cream but then hits you with a bill post-credits, not to mention political donations)
    Loved the video, totally agree, and maybe the next one you make could be the top 5 most innocent victims (people who ask Nancy for help or are the victims of the mystery Nancy stumbles on) Did they do something to earn the ire of the culprit, or were they just victims of circumstances? Personally I’d put Markus on the list considering that game’s culprit went out of their way solely for revenge and to RUIN him.

    • @WizardKittenYT
      @WizardKittenYT  2 года назад

      Oh totally agree, the egos of these five characters are astronomical!! I also like the idea of the most innocent suspects! I'd be fun to go through and see how many of them did practically nothing wrong!

  • @alyailithyia
    @alyailithyia 2 года назад

    Love the video Caitlyn! You are great :) and I appreciate everything you do and the content you make for us. Wishing you the best for the upcoming school year!

  • @fadalerabrasool3563
    @fadalerabrasool3563 Год назад

    Jake rogers
    tino Balducci
    Toni Scallari
    Jeff Atkers
    Izzy Romero
    Brady Armstrong
    richard Topham
    Simone

  • @lovelyluna961
    @lovelyluna961 2 года назад

    Yessss!!! This video is amazing!!! I completely agree with everyone. Toni still scares me every time I do a play through

  • @RSully94
    @RSully94 2 года назад +1

    5. YES, especially since she reminds me of the girl that stabbed me in the back in high school with SOME elements of my ex-crush (because he treated so many different people badly besides myself)
    4. Yep. Insufferable butter face looking coward. The way he spoke was just way too obviously fake for most of the game too.
    3. YESSSSSSSSSSSSS. Insufferable Raven Baxter wannabe with obnoxious use of language. Vomitrocious.
    2. YEP! Not even gonna go into the political drags here, but she got her karma. I'd rather buy ice cream from the store anyway.
    1. YEP! I don't normally tell characters to shut up in all caps (I did with Simone on the livestream) but oh my god the way she talks about the kidnapping in the press conference...god...no...at least with her we get some iconic lines though from her, Nancy and even Nick. (Someone just climbed out of my wardrobe, I'd rather be crushed by an elevator, Nick shading Simone by pulling the attention away from them at the press conference).

    • @WizardKittenYT
      @WizardKittenYT  2 года назад

      LOL, yes!! Loved reading your thoughts on each one! Obnoxious is definitely an accurate word for these characters!!

    • @GraemeCree
      @GraemeCree 2 года назад

      For all the legitimate things we can nail Izzy for, I don't think "looking like someone that I don't like in real life" is one of them. I would have to consider her innocent here.

    • @RSully94
      @RSully94 2 года назад +1

      @@GraemeCree I was referring to how she treated people, not her looks. Izzy literally acted like the girl that stabbed me in the back and made fun of me the worst in high school.

  • @fadalerabrasool3563
    @fadalerabrasool3563 Год назад

    10:11

  • @heidigilmore4543
    @heidigilmore4543 2 года назад

    ᑭᖇOᗰOᔕᗰ 💞

  • @indiananornes9286
    @indiananornes9286 2 года назад

    Misclicked the dislike! Hope it doesn’t mess with your analytics, great video!

    • @WizardKittenYT
      @WizardKittenYT  2 года назад

      Haha, no worries!! So glad you liked it!