03-07-2024 Good day Ciotti and all you GG. 00:03:00 On this stream……. 00:05:16 Butterfly FPV data about the windings ruclips.net/channel/UC7ITCnCLu0-kbxBRBB29VXwcommunity?lb=UgkxXSUAtpcR9gsrHeJrfgCAtZqISE1I9WS1 00:29:15 Support Ciotti. 00:32:25 Know anything about the BETA65X 2S frame Jesse has listed? Ordered RS0802's, HM SuperX hd aio, too for a Walksnail build. Hopefully it'll be easier 2 fly inside than my Mob8 Walksnail. 00:40:23 So now does anyone know what size e clips for the happymodel 0702’s? Your 2s journey has left me in the dust but it’s been fun to watch. 00:41:20 Thanks for telling us about ButterflyFPV, I joined his Whoop Micro Drone Motor Rewinding group on Facebook. So much fun stuff. 00:42:24 For the uninitiated, what does the termination spec mean? 00:44:45 Strip the enamel from the wire for a decent length & then measure the diameter of the copper. 00:46:00 They likely won't provide those specs because they don't want customers to easily be able to compare specs and it provides them more flexibility to make changes during manufacturing. 00:46:48 I'm 17 and about to spend 700 on a full rtf Walksnail kit a guy bought it new from rotor riot is it worth? 00:53:07 The rig in the beginning of the live stream….. 00:55:50 Delta gives 1.7 times faster Kv than wye for the same winding number 00:58:25 Stronger magnets makes for lower KV doesn't it? 00:59:32 I know you work closely with Bardwell. Do you have any comments on the shift to unusual machines supporting direct drone strikes? 01:00:44 I’m incredibly overwhelmed about this whole rotor riot thing and idk how to feel about it. all I do know is other people don’t like it, and are saying they are going to boycott RR. 01:01:14 Teddy time. 01:01:02 And because of that, that means potentially less rampage attendance or even maybe even no rampage. I was so excited, I had started saving now because I was so sad I missed this year. 01:05:42i've got (3) hglrc spectre 2s FC's up and running for a good 40 sticks a piece thus far... nice brds. 01:10:03 Group name is: "Whoop Micro Drone Motor Rewinding Group"" 01:11:05 I'm banking on better runtime w/ the TinyWhoop bt3.0 300's. It'll be a month till I can weigh it; AliExpress... If it's lame I have mob7v3's I can toss it into. 01:11:44 Which happymodel motors are the desirable ones ... the EX0802 or the SE0802? 01:13:10 It’s a 1200 dollar rtf kit and he said he was getting out and they said I could fly it beforehand but I do see your point I just think for getting into Walksnail that its pretty good no? 01:17:00 If the 2G4 survives this last crash, despite being completely submerged underwater, it truly is "indestructible" 01:19:50 Is there a good AIO for 1s right now or are we still waiting 01:22:36 Is there a new ultimate freestyle whoop build or is what’s on Joshua Bardwell know it all site still good and accurate? 01:23:48 Best tiny whoop aio for freestyle? I crashed my 2024 mob6 and broke the aio so was looking into f4 1s aio and hm SuperX 01:25:14 I have 5 SuperX AIOs 2 with less than 20 batteries used on them and 3 Brand new. The 2 older ones one had no Video and the other died all together.The new ones one has no video and the other 2 wont connect the serial port to Betaflight. Not sure what’s up there. 01:27:56 I have the 2G4 aio but the ufl connector came off so I have no video is it possible to replace the ufl connector? also in my previous chat I was talking about the BetaFPV cross aio. 01:31:24 I took your advice btw, started running the cockroach v3 and no more high throttle oscillations. I have 4x mob 6 2024 frames just waiting for a low Kv build. Possible chase rigs? 01:31:38 2024 eco is great and in stock at TinyWhoop. I've put a few dozen batteries in and had to replace a motor, but all good otherwise! 01:31:47 I’m getting an analog brown out when I crash, BETAFPV aio, tbs pro32 nano vtx, mob 6 camera/canopy, and cockroach frame. Any ideas? I’m fresh out. 01:32:52 I only fly TinyWhoops inside my house and use the Eachine ev800d goggles if I was to upgrade my goggles still staying analog which goggles would you recommend? 01:34:16 Fleet review. 01:43:00 Getfpv has the elrs 2g4 receivers in stock but they are in the mob6 01:50:29 Let’s fly with Teddy. 01:56:08 More fleet review. 02:04:23 I'm going to make a purchase from AliExpress soon, when will you fix your affiliate link? I can hold off for a couple days 02:06:42 update the vtx issue was in fact the camera thank god the vtx is hard to come by at a decent price. 02:09:11 Just a heads up Gangliest, looks like Pyrodrone has the Mob6 2024 in stock. 02:09:36 What was your first Fpv quad? 02:09:44 I have my remote bound to my Mobula but the roll and pitch are off what is the rx channel order I should be using on remote. 02:10:46 Fleet review continues. 02:15:11 When can you talk about BetaFPV new whoop? 02:15:50 Flying with Teddy. 02:30:52 Last piece of the fleet review. 02:35:58 More flying. Stay safe everyone and have fun flying.
Hey man, im on the process of budding a fleet of 65mm whoops for racing and just everyday flying, but want to build a high kv freestyle build. Would you recommend the Tinywhoop 36000kv or 32000kv? They restocked! My other builds range from 23-28k. Thanks in advance
@@CiottiFPV thanks man, I pulled the trigger on two sets so I have spares. Have a liteAF frame and the super x v2 with plugs. Should be pretty light even with plugs! Have a good day.
Ciotti, for the 2S Walksnail build, you say you are going to use the RCinPower 1002 19000kv but its spec mentioned that this motor is for 1S battery. So is it ok to use this 19K motor on 2S?
Thank you. I'm currently using the Flywoo 1002 23500kv motors and motor limit to 70% as suggested by Ciotti. Using the HM Super X HD AIO which supports 2S. The onboard USB don't touch the 2S battery.
@@davidlhchong yep, the USB isn't connected to the battery power side. I would however check how your vtx is connected. Seen as tho you are using the super X HD I am guessing you are probably using a walksnail vtx and the earlier version only runs off 5v and 2s would be too much for it if it is connected to vbat. The later versions can handle a higher voltage tho I believe. Also you will want to back off the tune at first as the pids and filters might be too much. After that you can then re tune it to suit.
@@sulphur_fpv sorry I neglect to mention that I'm using HDZero whoop lite vtx that supports up to 3S battery input and not Walksnail. Re the USB connector on my HM SuperX HD AIO, Ciotti mentioned the reason he chose the Betafpv F4 12A AIO because he thinks an AIO with a USB connector will hit the 2S lipo battery when using the HM 75mm V3 frame. But I can say that the USB connector on the HM SuperX HD AIO has a clearance of more than 1mm between it and the lipo battery when using the HM 75mm V3 frame.
Tinywhoop build specs:
01:34:27 75mm 'Jungle Gym basher': 24.3g dry - HM Mobula7 V4 frame - HM X12 ELRS AIO - Runcam nano3/HM Mobula6 - linear antenna - TW IGOW 0802 27000 - GF 1610 biblades
01:47:22 Ultimate FS TW: 18.8g dry - NBD Cockroach 65 V3 frame - HM Mobula6 2G4 ELRS AIO - Runcam nano3/HM Mobula6 - ORT micro-vee antenna - VCI 0702 29000 - GF 1219S biblades
01:55:29 RC drift car chase: 18.75g dry - NBD Cockroach 65 LiteAF frame - HM Mobula6 2G4 ELRS AIO - Runcam nano3?/Batwing - TrueRC antenna - TW prototype 0603 30000 (switching to 0702 28000) - HQ yolo triblades
02:10:47 RC drift car chase (light): 18.5g dry - NBD Cockroach 65 LiteAF frame - HM Mobula6 2024 V2 AIO - Runcam nano3?/Batwing - TrueRC antenna - TW 0702 36000 - GF 1210 biblades
02:13:07 Lightest 65: 16.4g dry - NBD Cockroach 65 LiteAF frame - HM Mobula6 2024 V1 AIO - Runcam nano3/HM Mobula6 - Minimum whip antenna - HM 0702 28000 - GF 1219S triblades
02:30:52 Walksnail 75: 30.3g dry - BetaFPV Meteor75 Air frame - BetaFPV cross-style AIO - Avatar Lite/HM Mobula6 - TrueRC antenna - VCI 0802.8 27000 - GF 1610 biblades
Thank you!!! 🙏
03-07-2024
Good day Ciotti and all you GG.
00:03:00 On this stream…….
00:05:16 Butterfly FPV data about the windings ruclips.net/channel/UC7ITCnCLu0-kbxBRBB29VXwcommunity?lb=UgkxXSUAtpcR9gsrHeJrfgCAtZqISE1I9WS1
00:29:15 Support Ciotti.
00:32:25 Know anything about the BETA65X 2S frame Jesse has listed? Ordered RS0802's, HM SuperX hd aio, too for a Walksnail build. Hopefully it'll be easier 2 fly inside than my Mob8 Walksnail.
00:40:23 So now does anyone know what size e clips for the happymodel 0702’s? Your 2s journey has left me in the dust but it’s been fun to watch.
00:41:20 Thanks for telling us about ButterflyFPV, I joined his Whoop Micro Drone Motor Rewinding group on Facebook. So much fun stuff.
00:42:24 For the uninitiated, what does the termination spec mean?
00:44:45 Strip the enamel from the wire for a decent length & then measure the diameter of the copper.
00:46:00 They likely won't provide those specs because they don't want customers to easily be able to compare specs and it provides them more flexibility to make changes during manufacturing.
00:46:48 I'm 17 and about to spend 700 on a full rtf Walksnail kit a guy bought it new from rotor riot is it worth?
00:53:07 The rig in the beginning of the live stream…..
00:55:50 Delta gives 1.7 times faster Kv than wye for the same winding number
00:58:25 Stronger magnets makes for lower KV doesn't it?
00:59:32 I know you work closely with Bardwell. Do you have any comments on the shift to unusual machines supporting direct drone strikes?
01:00:44 I’m incredibly overwhelmed about this whole rotor riot thing and idk how to feel about it. all I do know is other people don’t like it, and are saying they are going to boycott RR.
01:01:14 Teddy time.
01:01:02 And because of that, that means potentially less rampage attendance or even maybe even no rampage. I was so excited, I had started saving now because I was so sad I missed this year.
01:05:42i've got (3) hglrc spectre 2s FC's up and running for a good 40 sticks a piece thus far... nice brds.
01:10:03 Group name is: "Whoop Micro Drone Motor Rewinding Group""
01:11:05 I'm banking on better runtime w/ the TinyWhoop bt3.0 300's. It'll be a month till I can weigh it; AliExpress... If it's lame I have mob7v3's I can toss it into.
01:11:44 Which happymodel motors are the desirable ones ... the EX0802 or the SE0802?
01:13:10 It’s a 1200 dollar rtf kit and he said he was getting out and they said I could fly it beforehand but I do see your point I just think for getting into Walksnail that its pretty good no?
01:17:00 If the 2G4 survives this last crash, despite being completely submerged underwater, it truly is "indestructible"
01:19:50 Is there a good AIO for 1s right now or are we still waiting
01:22:36 Is there a new ultimate freestyle whoop build or is what’s on Joshua Bardwell know it all site still good and accurate?
01:23:48 Best tiny whoop aio for freestyle? I crashed my 2024 mob6 and broke the aio so was looking into f4 1s aio and hm SuperX
01:25:14 I have 5 SuperX AIOs 2 with less than 20 batteries used on them and 3 Brand new. The 2 older ones one had no Video and the other died all together.The new ones one has no video and the other 2 wont connect the serial port to Betaflight. Not sure what’s up there.
01:27:56 I have the 2G4 aio but the ufl connector came off so I have no video is it possible to replace the ufl connector? also in my previous chat I was talking about the BetaFPV cross aio.
01:31:24 I took your advice btw, started running the cockroach v3 and no more high throttle oscillations. I have 4x mob 6 2024 frames just waiting for a low Kv build. Possible chase rigs?
01:31:38 2024 eco is great and in stock at TinyWhoop. I've put a few dozen batteries in and had to replace a motor, but all good otherwise!
01:31:47 I’m getting an analog brown out when I crash, BETAFPV aio, tbs pro32 nano vtx, mob 6 camera/canopy, and cockroach frame. Any ideas? I’m fresh out.
01:32:52 I only fly TinyWhoops inside my house and use the Eachine ev800d goggles if I was to upgrade my goggles still staying analog which goggles would you recommend?
01:34:16 Fleet review.
01:43:00 Getfpv has the elrs 2g4 receivers in stock but they are in the mob6
01:50:29 Let’s fly with Teddy.
01:56:08 More fleet review.
02:04:23 I'm going to make a purchase from AliExpress soon, when will you fix your affiliate link? I can hold off for a couple days
02:06:42 update the vtx issue was in fact the camera thank god the vtx is hard to come by at a decent price.
02:09:11 Just a heads up Gangliest, looks like Pyrodrone has the Mob6 2024 in stock.
02:09:36 What was your first Fpv quad?
02:09:44 I have my remote bound to my Mobula but the roll and pitch are off what is the rx channel order I should be using on remote.
02:10:46 Fleet review continues.
02:15:11 When can you talk about BetaFPV new whoop?
02:15:50 Flying with Teddy.
02:30:52 Last piece of the fleet review.
02:35:58 More flying.
Stay safe everyone and have fun flying.
Hey man, im on the process of budding a fleet of 65mm whoops for racing and just everyday flying, but want to build a high kv freestyle build. Would you recommend the Tinywhoop 36000kv or 32000kv? They restocked! My other builds range from 23-28k. Thanks in advance
@@valden 36,000kv for sure, you can motor limit them down if they have too much power, the lower kv can’t be motor limited up :)
@@CiottiFPV thanks man, I pulled the trigger on two sets so I have spares. Have a liteAF frame and the super x v2 with plugs. Should be pretty light even with plugs! Have a good day.
Ciotti, you should test the Hypetrain Dime 1002 24000kv motor
They don't have motor plugs so they can go to hell :)
Ciotti, for the 2S Walksnail build, you say you are going to use the RCinPower 1002 19000kv but its spec mentioned that this motor is for 1S battery. So is it ok to use this 19K motor on 2S?
If you motor limit it down in betaflight, re-tune it and adjust these settings if the motors are getting hot then they would be fine on 2s.
Thank you. I'm currently using the Flywoo 1002 23500kv motors and motor limit to 70% as suggested by Ciotti.
Using the HM Super X HD AIO which supports 2S. The onboard USB don't touch the 2S battery.
@@davidlhchong yep, the USB isn't connected to the battery power side. I would however check how your vtx is connected. Seen as tho you are using the super X HD I am guessing you are probably using a walksnail vtx and the earlier version only runs off 5v and 2s would be too much for it if it is connected to vbat. The later versions can handle a higher voltage tho I believe. Also you will want to back off the tune at first as the pids and filters might be too much. After that you can then re tune it to suit.
@@sulphur_fpv sorry I neglect to mention that I'm using HDZero whoop lite vtx that supports up to 3S battery input and not Walksnail.
Re the USB connector on my HM SuperX HD AIO, Ciotti mentioned the reason he chose the Betafpv F4 12A AIO because he thinks an AIO with a USB connector will hit the 2S lipo battery when using the HM 75mm V3 frame.
But I can say that the USB connector on the HM SuperX HD AIO has a clearance of more than 1mm between it and the lipo battery when using the HM 75mm V3 frame.
@@davidlhchong ahhh I see, I was a little confused by that bit. Good to know that it does clear tho😊
1's onboard 💁🧑🦯👯👯♂👯♀🤾♂🤹🤹♂🏋♂🏋♂HD has never happened - is that correct - and hello good health yall.
erm - whoops - split cam - look forward to
@@ramdonko6661 huh?
@@CiottiFPV think I can translate filter this one, I've been looking at the runcam split 3 recently.
@@ramdonko6661 ahhh ok gotcha, I still love my Runcam Hybrids :)