Dara Ó Briain On Jokes That Haven't Aged Well | Live at the Theatre Royal | Universal Comedy
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8:58 "Name an obscure country!" "CORK!" LOL, that guy deserves a award.
It's good that the descriptors are always complementary. "Violent and angry" paints a very cohesive picture. Whereas "violent and flatulent," while evocative, just raises questions.
There is a correlation between violence and flatuation although it's important to remember...correlation does not neccessarily mean causation.
@@dermur68"violent and flatulent" is essentially "silent but deadly"
"Violently flatulent" would be a heck of a thing to be known for.
"Nostalgia is heroin for old people"😂😂 oh lmao Picture Mugabe and Dara... too hilarious 😂😂
Swaziland is so obscure no one knows that it hasn't actually been named Swaziland for five years now 😂
Greenland hasn't been called Greenland for over 40 years... the problem is no one can pronounce the new name.
That the one that became Eswatini?
My Tongan friend really is tall and well-mannered. Oddly accurate.
I have a Tongan workmate who fits that description, too. 😂
Probably massively strong, almost freakishly so. Every tongan i have ever known were naturally what arnold work to get to his whole life. My 8th grade teacher used to have 2 kids do pullups on his one arm
@@kevinhurley6919 he just bought a new all-in-one home gym machine (that looks like the setup at a high school) because he wore out his Bowflex.
Yeah Thanks Dara - am I in trouble or what.
My wife was falling asleep. I was watching this wearing headphones. You told the anecdote about the cat & the fire crew.
I bellowed with laughter so very loud & very suddenly .......... the poor woman shot wide awake & nearly soiled the bed.
Ha, been there.
That was certainly the best baguette joke I've ever heard.
I love how we all know enough French to understand it
Sadly...we even have a song about the ubiquitous "breakfast baguette". And, yes, we've all tried to eat one in the car...complete with mushroom juice and runny eggs dripping everywhere. ruclips.net/video/u_ijJAHJgvo/видео.html&ab_channel=PatShortt-Topic
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I fricking love him! Never fails to make me laugh out loud. Even if I've seen the performance a hundred times 😅
A hundred times... I think you need to get out more ;)
And the Dutch are..... stoned!
Jup rings true right now👌
I am right now!
Thumb up for the Irish fire company joke.
Was it a joke though? I thought it actually happened
@@tonyhawk123It's originally an American joke from many decades ago.
Anytime a comedian says “this is 100% true”, there’s a 99% chance that it isn’t true 🤣
A “fire company” sounds like something that employs professional arsonists.
Actually I remember when it happened in the UK, during the fireman's strike. I am trusting the BBC news at the time. The green goddesses were the army fire service that called in,and it was a cup of tea.
Well, time to go put a full Irish breakfast on a baguette and eat it. Genius
I loved the boulagnerie joke and, frankly I'll eat a full Irish breakfast in a baguette if you care to export the concept.
A french girl
😂, you haven't lived until you've tried one, I have this every Saturday morning. Thank you France for your wonderful bread, you may think we ruined it by filling up it full of sausage, bacon, egg and hash browns but really we've created the perfect breakfast 😂❤
Nostalgia is heroin for old people 😂😂😂😂
Honestly the older I get, the more I hate.. Skin colour used to never bother me as a teen, but now I'm in my 30 and the amount of illegals being let in and every country in the UK having brown as leader is seriously making me hate brown skin..
I just want the world to know that the French do the same thing to Empanadas as the Irish do to Baguettes. Just slap their entire Christmas meal in a sack of dough and call it a Raclette Empanada.
He is SO adaptive at crowd work. A man who can actually polish a turd when it's handed to him.
I've heard Dara talk about the influence Eddie Izzard had on him, and I can see it here.
You really can.
Dutch and stoned while watching, lol
legend. best Irish comedian since Dave Allen
My absolute favorite comedian
Unless he ad plants in the audience, that was same amazing 'thinking on his feet' at the end.
In my experience, Tongans are often tall and well-manered
People from Vanuatu are happy and friendly. Been quite a few time.
I LOOOVE Dara! But all Hindi speaking Indians know what a Balti is (basically a bucket)!😂😂😂
Brilliant video from a brilliant and talented comedian, not ashamed to put up his hands and apologies for a mistake. Although I know it was done at random, the words "angry" and "violent" are actually quite appropriate for Angola/Angolans, as for many years the country was caught in a long, very bitter and brutal civil war. Sometimes truth is far stranger than fiction.
Was it an apology? He repeated the joke like 3 times in front of the audience. :)
brilliant ! I love this man
Look up the Angolan Civil War (1976-2002) and you’ll find that Dara’s audience nailed it
Translation "Look up the history of mankind and you'll find that all nations are angry and violent"
Ah now, what Dara doesn't tell you is that the Irish tell Irish jokes but they make the victims the inhabitants of County Kerry. They call them Kerryman jokes!
Dara is a true master
The joke about Vanuatu got me
Excellent!
The firefighters run over cat story is from the 1970s, says Snopes 😂
The more i watch Dara the more he reminds me of Eddie Izzard.
Very good 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
8:30 Rampant and well-read Slovenian here. 🤣
Brilliant!!!!HA!!!
Dara is best when he is improvising, no doubt! How many comedians could turn Angolans and Vanuatuans into a double-pronged joke like that on the fly? Not many I'd wager!
The Angolans part cracks me up. 😂
Same. Imagine if there was an Angolan in the audience though
They might come across as quite angry if they raised their voice to object.
Well I think he's a pretty funny dude 😊
what a genius
He should have had a role in Father Ted.
Slovenes are known for being cheapskates, and for being drunk, I love them. Ljubljana is my favourite city besides London.
Swaziland is known for weed...
a lot of people now know slovenia for exactly Slavoj Zizek lmao
If I know anything about Zimbabweans, short tempered and don't like to share, but then, I do love her.
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5:20 it took me a while to figure out he was saying BAGUETTES not BIGGOTS😂
yeah, by all means, we should all throw full Irish breakfasts at biggots.
It’s more the tourists in Amsterdam that get stoned then the actual Dutch.
As a Brit who's lived in the Hague, nope the dutch get stoned just as much.
It's very easy for an actually talented comedian to admit when they've made a joke in bad taste, and move on.
Tbf no one here took outrage campaigns seriously. In the US you’d the 24 hours news making big hullabaloos about it and the people who apologised for wrongdoing had their shows cancelled as networks attempted to maintain their false purity
someone tell ricky gervais that you can actually do that and not die
It helps if you've got a good reputation already. If you're relatively unknown that kind of backlash can destroy you, even if you do apologise it can backfire if they don't accept you've been conciliatory enough, and it can be for things much less egregious than the Elton John joke, which I can at least understand how it could be easily misinterpreted as something far more offensive than it was.
There's also a certain amount of knowing your audience as well. Dara's audience is fairly broad and politically and culturally diverse, and nobody expects edgy or offensive comedy from him. Things are different for other comedians.
A wise man once said. There are no jokes in bad taste, just people lacking a sense of humour.
@@darkin1484 Did he also say wise stuff or just stupid tripe?
Poor cat. Hahaha
I’m Irish and I love a good Irishman joke as long as it is done in the right spirit ie not meant as a put down.
To whomever did the subtitles, I saw how you capitalized every instance of "Among Us"
I went on to google to see what the Angolans are really like, I got as far as typing 'Angolan', and the auto complete filled in 'Angolan civil war'. So perhaps Angry and Violent wasn't too far off?
idk about the general population but they're really politically corrupt and have been at war for years now. It's a pretty bad situation.
Oh, it's worse than that! I did the same, and the first three topics were Angolan Civil War, Angola War of Independence, and Angolan Bush War. They're just itching for a fight, those angry violent Angolans!
the wife and I was in Cork once on a Tour and to kiss the Stone and it was violent and vacuous too. We bought some more postcards and barely made it out of there.
I'm gay. It took me three times hearing the Elton John joke to get it.
But we’re you offended?
Butt were you offEnded ?
As a gay man, this is hilarious
You can't get baguettes in Ireland, they become "rolls", and Jaysus, there are no beans in a full Irish, the beans are replaced with white pudding. I love beans mind, but not on a roll, and now, there's your chicken fillet roll....
Quarter Irish myself, but I did get a smack in the mouth for telling someone the parrot shooting joke.
I love it when you see something in common with a comedian, like the time Dara did his impression of Solid Snake. 😂 ❤
Ed> On yeah, same haircut too .
Quarter Irish means you can only tell a quarter of an Irish joke.
@@omegashadows ;D
Something about carrying a car door through the desert, so he could wind down the window...
That parrot joke is hilarious 😂
@@ellenbrooks8061
So yesterday I went into the garden centre to buy a crismas tree.
Lady behind the counter says...
Are you going to put that up yourself?
Hmm, no, I was thinking of putting it in the lounge.
Have a good one. 🥂
@@bazsuperbi1773 Love it 😂
The fire engine story is true, but it was not last year because I remember it from Stephen Pile’s first Book of Heroic Failures, which was published in 1979. I demand a campaign against this evil comedian and that he not be allowed to work anymore!
And nobody ever spares a thought for the cat's dignity!
It may have happened again😂
As someone who had their cat ran over by the council (of course they never apologised and I grieved for 5 months because my cats are the only reason I haven't yet killed myself) I dislike jokes like that. To most "it's just a cat" but to me my cats are my children, I've had them since 16, now 31, lost one at 29 her sister is still here, but I honestly will not survive that level of grief a 2nd time.
I was expecting much more spice from "Jokes That Haven't Aged Well"
The main point absolutely stands when you look at old British comedians like John Cleese, Rowan Atkinson, Jack Dee etc whonong about free speech instead of updating their routines to fit with this century and not the previous one.
Gervais!
The French!
This is from 2006.
Lmfao, half way through the video (Baguette joke) a fucking adb starts offering a French baker in a local supermarket b😅
As a gay, I deem that joke funny and ok lol 😂
I'm an old gay man who has heard a lot of nasty, mean spirited "jokes" about gay men - and I've never been offended or even made uncomfortable by any of Dara's jokes that included gay men. And it warmed my heart when, on Mock the Week several years ago, Chris Addison was doing one of his limp wristed lisping "gay man" jokes and Dara called him out on it. That made the edit - so the producers were also decent people. Addison, not so much.
I think Tachell's heart is in the right place, and he's done a lot of good work - but sometimes his field of vision is so narrow that he completely misunderstands the thing he's objecting to.
And he's saying it in 2006
Baguetteria!!!! Hahaha thats the worst spanish attempt at french
I say this as someone who is in, and very supportive of the rest of, the LGBT community:
I don't see what was wrong with that joke. It was innuendo. That was the joke. It just happened to be about gay people - which is inherently accepting of gay people.
Am I missing context not presented here?
Edit: ah I see, I was not aware Billy Elliot was a coming of age story. That makes more sense.
Yeah, big oof there. Hardly something to end his career over though lol (at least not since he took the pushback in stride, and learnt from it instead of getting defensive)
@@DM-ur8vc generally, jokes that enforce harmful stereotypes, whether intentionally or not, should be avoided.
The fact that a person *could* interpret the joke in a harmless way does not mean it can't be interpreted in a harmful way. Yes, the fact that they interpret it that way is on them, but if it weren't for the joke they'd have nothing to interpret. (Also, as you say that is literally only the end of the film, it's hardly the first thing that's going to go through most people's heads when they think of it).
Jokes like this bring hateful people's hate to the front of their minds, which can lead to harassment and violence.
I don't blame Dara for making this joke without realising the consequences, but I do see the issue, and am glad he chose to learn from the ordeal (despite the apparent initial overreaction).
As he said himself, there's no point getting defensive over such a joke. He's a comedian. He can easily replace one potentially harmful joke with a harmless one with no detriment to himself.
And tbh, I'm not sure I'd be ok with the joke if a similar one were made with reference to straight people. The implication of adult/child is bad enough on its own, regardless of stereotype enforcement. Though that's more me thinking it would be in bad taste rather than it being anything important.
@@DM-ur8vc
Jokes do not need victims, Dara's joke as originally intended had no victim, as I explained (and you apparently agreed?) it was merely innuendo. Elton John was involved in the joke but he isn't a victim of it (unless you think calling someone gay is an insult). But that's besides the point so I'm not going to argue it further. I'm not saying jokes shouldn't ever have victims, it's like a staple of British comedy, but there are absolutely limits and guidelines (you shouldn't tell a joke where "those stupid n*****..." is the punchline for example). The question is not 'is there a line?' The question is 'where is the line?'
I did not say if a joke could be considered harmful it shouldn't be used, I said that the way in which this joke *is* harmful means it shouldn't be used. Again, what's important is *where* the line is.
My qualifier was not "stereotype." It was "enforcing harmful stereotypes" (though I suppose in this instance "reminding people of their harmful stereotyping" would be more apt). In this case the completely absurd stereotype some people somehow believe that all gay people are paedophiles, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
As for who decides what's harmful. Well, everyone does individually for themselves, unless there is direct evidence of it causing harm, which for all you know the people who complained do have such evidence, have you checked? Jokes are known to cause harm, the question is whether there is enough of a risk that this joke falls into the group of jokes that does. How would you know? I trust a human rights campaign organisation to know more than I trust you to.
His other jokes were based on people who do not face serious discrimination for that aspect of who they are. Americans are rarely if ever killed or harassed for being American, French people are similarly not harassed or killed for being French. There are only these jokes and jokes like them. That is not harmful. Gay people are relatively *very* regularly harassed and occasionally killed for being gay, along with a whole host of other discrimination.
Reminding someone who thinks gay people are evil (no really) of one of the reasons they think gay people are evil increases the chance of them doing something harmful to gay people. That's how it works. The more you remind someone of something they don't like the more likely they are to try doing something about it.
And yes, it brings hate to the minds of bigots. That's what I meant by "hateful people." No one who hates gay people isn't a bigot.
Why are you worried about this anyway? Dara faced no detriments to his career or popularity, or the public's opinion of him. He is completely unscathed.
@@DM-ur8vc I want to point out that I did provide such a joke, but I also said I wouldn't argue that point any further, so I won't.
@@DM-ur8vc I mean, even Dara himself realizes that it was an ill-advised joke - so he decided to be better in the future. It's as simple as that. Even more, he accepts that people who get all uppity because they receive backlash instead of learning are the real problem. And ultimately, no-one gets "cancelled" over one offensive joke. They get tossed aside like the outdated morons they are if they can't adapt, or if they show that the bad joke is actually reflective of their 15th century world view. But even then, they usually get platformed by some other hate-mongers so they can cry to a large audience about how they apparently got cancelled and the entire large audience doesn't get that it's the opposite of cancellation if you have a large audience.
Meanwhile, when you criticize the Tory government for their crimes, you might lose your job at the supposedly apolitical BBC. Weird how that works...
I think the positive note to take from this is that reactions are instinctive, but doing a second take can result in learning. A joke at someone's expense may not have intended to hurt, but realising that it did cause hurt can expose some injustice that needs to be rectified. And this is perhaps why we really need comedy.
Wait, since when does Dara speak French?
Since the baguette invasion of Ireland
@gunnerblade he speaks Gaeilge fluently too, most people speak more than one language
@laryone so do I, friend, but he didn't say a single word in French when I saw him in Montreal last year (which is an easy way to win over the crowd here) so the French caught me off guard
Most Irish people learn French in secondary school. Well - in recent years they've started reforming the exam systems so I can't speak for the very newest students. But certainly nearly everyone of Dara's generation would have been either required to learn it (higher stream classes) or given the option (lower ability stream classes).
Yeah, but is today's music really better than the 60s and 70s!
No it isn't and music from the 1960s and 1970s isn't better than music from the 1940s or the 1990s for that matter.
It's mainly just different arrangements of the same 4 chords anyway and the enjoyment of it is entirely subjective.
I think the two main reasons modern music appears naff to older generations.
1. We tend to remember and get played (radio, tv etc) the good music from our youth and do our best to never think about The Birdie Song or Agadoo.
2. Music is evocative, it can evoke memories often of significant times and people in our lives, modern music will not do this for older generations.
Today's music includes all the best of the 60s and 70s PLUS everything from the Eurhythmics on, so yes
Alternatively... it's all subjective
honestly as a bisexual person I think the gay joke was funny XD
Honestly, barely anyone would be offended at the joke. But, as always, it's the not about how many there are, but how loud they are. 99.9% of people being fine with a joke still leaves 0.1% to be very loudly against it if they so wish.
it's not about the personal offense someone might take, it's about contributing to a narrative that is harmful. the joke is clearly not done with bad intent, but it is cheap and plays into harmful stereotypes rather than challenge them.
@@blacxthornE That is correct. The Outrage guy was in the right; and yet, by declaring that Dara should not be allowed to work because of that joke, he still somehow lost the argument.
@@EnoVarmaThe problem with some of these callouts is they are so bilious and make such ridiculous demands it's easy to be angry at them. It would be nice if they just took a second to consider what the most generous interpretation of the incident in question could be. Is it possible their intent was misinterpreted? Did they make an honest mistake?
Too often malice is assumed right off the bat, and any ignorance is seen as malicious in and of itself because they fail to live up to some lofty standard of knowledge about their particular community. And then they demand something beyond a simple apology, they want heads to roll no matter how minor the infraction because I guess we should be walking on eggshells from now on.
@@Croz89I mean, that's pretty much it in a nutshell. "Malice is assumed" might as well be the motto of the Western world today.
Btw, Dara's joke is lame at best, but it's based on the simple idea of how wrong an innocent sentence can sound in the wrong context. Taken literally, "Did Elton John see himself in Billy Elliott?" is an absolutely legitimate question. He probably did.
@@EnoVarma Eh, lame innuendo is kind of a british tradition, just go to any christmas panto!
On Elton John. i Always though he named Just in Bieber, and Just in Timberlake
The Dutch are what? I couldn't understand the word...
think it was "stoned"
@@dxb338 thanks! That makes sensen
Swaziland is now a wrong answer to shout out when asked to name a country. It is now known as Eswatini. Something to do with the king(?) of that country.
This was filmed in 2006 so it was still Swaziland at the time
@@patricklawson9756 that is why I said it "is NOW a wrong answer". I didn't say it WAS at the time.
Another perfect example of a joke that hasn't aged well then, just like the title of the clip 🙄
Going from gay "in" jokes to baguettes is certainly not getting my brain out of the gutter.
Peter Tatchel… who ruined several families lives by “outing” people who in 50% cases, weren’t actually gay - but the rumour & fuss ruined them.
The new wardrobe alone would ruin anyone!
Maybe the Irish just stopped inventing things after the 80’s
We all have to agree that at least in the old days, people knew how to fit a suit properly.
Slovenians are... not outside of Europe, Dara
I'm gay. I think the "Billy Elliot" joke was funny as f*ck.
Hoping someone would have shouted flatulent to describe one of the countries.
...okay, but Slovenia IS in Europe.
This is such a neutral angle on migration and yet still look at how quickly people flood in to politicize. Ever notice that your poliitical views and your idea of what is funny seem to align a little too much? Its kinda sad what brexit and the recent political landscape has done to some of you.
Swaziland is now called Eswatini
The Dutch are what??
Stoned
It seems that the young are not holding on to the proud Finnish traditions of being silent and drunk. Where is the world going to?
Ah yes, Swaziland. The country so obscure it doesn't even exist anymore.
If India changed the name of the country to Bharat, you wouldn't go saying it doesn't exist anymore
@@laryone I dunno, do you still talk about Siam and Zaire? Constantinople? Leningrad?
@@caswanden454 they didn't stop existing when they changed their names.
@@laryone not in a physical sense obviously, but I don't think anyone could reasonably think that's what I meant.
Slovenians were stereotyped in the former Yugoslavia as being tightfisted and boring.
You don’t do French then Dara.
Breakfast rolls are overrated it’s all about the chicken fillet roll!!
Balti is a Pakistan thing not Indian
The weird thing about changing times is literal facts are now outrageous. A decades long friend cut me out of his life completely for stating the fact that the human animal is sexually dimorphic - with observable differences between the genders right down to the chromosomes.
Sounds like your friend got sick of your coded language.
@@Argusthecat Or, like you, my former friend has been manipulated by social media algorithms to interpret words to mean some kind of outrageous bigotry.
Need new material
It was a 2006 gig.
@EdDueim that's why
@@martini668 A good burn there Martin.
@@martini668 Surely, that was part of his first joke?
Grovel Dara, grovel!! LOWER!!
(Spoiler: it's never low enough for the New Puritans).
Here’s a thought, the same freedom of speech that you enjoy to make the joke, a gay man can enjoy to complain about the joke. You probably don’t see the reason why so hackey and facile a joke would offend or even annoy a gay person, but you haven’t had to live Through the constant hatred and prejudice that targets gay men all the time. Which, although having nothing to do with your joke, is part of the running tab of hatred and “”just a jokes” that gay guys deal with all the time. Maybe the jokes will be easier to take when you don’t have to worry about losing your rights every four years or every two years or every year. So just keep in mind that it may seem like yet another case of someone not being able to take a joke, but not everybody has a thick skin and some people have seen a really dark side of homophobia that makes them somewhat reticent to laughter about it. I don’t expect this to clear up anything for those who are already in the get a sense of humor band camp, but thought it deserves clarification because it’s not as simple as you make it.
Dying in queue for NHS is an improvement people! Need more immigration!
The queues are caused by a Tory government trying to cause the total collapse and privatisation of the NHS, but they blame immigrants and idiots listen!
That’s definitely immigration, and not the government stripping the NHS utterly bare so their cronies get more money. No siree. Also the whole staff is definitely British and there are no immigrant nurses and doctors at all.
Need more immigration? Yeah, and you need a f***ing brain!
At what point are people going to realize that rate of migration and quality of NHS arent the same thing. They lied to you to make you vote for brexit and the NHS didnt improve. Meanwhile you dont think the privatization has anything to do with where the quality as gone? As tories literally sell parts of the country to their friends or their spouse who just so happens to have a job which directly benefits? You're saying the couple down the street who are minding their own business do more damage? You realize you're commenting this all on a stand up comedy video of an Irish immigrant who lives in london right?
The queues would be a hell of a lot longer if it wasn't for immigrants as 1 in 5 NHS staff are non British (used to be more before Brexit)
Bit of a fallacy to say that you shouldn’t resist change.
If it suddenly became legal to murder people and a bunch of people complained about it, I wouldn’t call the people unreasonable for wanting to go back to a time before legal murder.
Sorry, America handles multiculturalism better. It's what we do.
Things were better in the old days. Better comedians , better singers , better footballers , better politicians , better management , better television , better cars , better life all together.
Ok boomer..
What date are you deciding is the old days? Just so we have a point of reference.
Go away and stop talking.
@@thomasandrewcliffordwhen he was younger and getting laid more
@@thomasandrewclifford 1066, obviously.
You tell jokes about homosexuals as its freedom of speech but not about irish people....hmmm
He makes lots of jokes about the Irish. His comment was a joke about the English making jokes.
@bob_the_bomb4508 exactly its not OK for the English to make jokes about the Irish yet its OK for an Irish man to make jokes about others..
@@nonyabusiness999 you do realise he was joking?
@bob_the_bomb4508 guess it wasn't a very funny joke then
@@nonyabusiness999 oh FFS hrs joking. There wasn’t really a memo…
I've found there's two types of British comedy. Funny and wordy. This is just wordy.
You are Hugely lacking in INTELLECTUAL HUMOUR.
Aww look at the poor fool being stumped by a few words.
He's also not British 🤣
Good thing he's Irish
Oh, is that right, so?
The problem is if you start basing your jokes on what people take offense over, this video MUST be taken down. It's offensive against heroin addicts. And the next video will be against deaf people, because they can't hear the jokes. Then against blind people. ect, ect.
I'm kind of ashamed Dara would cowtow to this type of thing. Comedy is allowed to deconstruct sociatal happenings and make them humorous. That's the fucking point.
You know this is from 2006, right?