For people complaining about Sheoldred's "oppression", keep in mind that this was only possible because one of the opponents was running a self-mill reanimator deck, so Seb could skip the step of filling up the opponent's graveyard himself.
@@wedgearyxsaber None of these fill up the opponents' graveyards, though... and Sheoldred can't transform unless an opponent has eight or more cards in their graveyard
@@DarkEinherjar yes but there's two restrictions to the card: the graveyard prerequisite and the mana to both play and activate the ability (which is alot)
Seb shouldn't have been able to return syr konrad to his hand from the eternal witness etb because it appears he milled it from the sticher supplier. Since all the etb triggers from creatures should've been on the stack already, as they entered at the same time, Seb needed a legal target for the eternal witness before any etb could've resolved first, not mattering the order of the etb triggers.
just letting you know New Etali gets a card from everyone's deck not just your opponents so Maxime would have gotten something from their deck (don't think it would have changed anything just letting you know for the future)
When you doubled the counters on Lae'zel, she should have received yet another counter due to her own ability, putting her at 5. Not that it mattered much, since Seb had an absolute control of the board at almost all times. Love playing Bright-Palm, but the deck is definitely difficult to play if your threats don't stick at all.
I mean... if elesh norn flip you swing at least for 30 damages then wrath the board, jin protect himself with ward, help you anble its flip requirement and have a preatty good chance of winning when he flip, urabrask its one of the strongest storm deck and doesn't need to flip and vorinclex its meh.. sheoldred rely on the opponent discarded and destroyed creatures and so its preatty mid against deck that dont use big strong creatures. Is she strong? Yes But is she the strongest?
Um no actually it’s probably the weakest lol. Norn is a brutal stax effect that can win without even flipping, but it’s also not that hard to flip her. Urabrask is a great storm piece and again flipping is just the cherry on top while being incredibly easy to do. Jin has protection and is great card advantage. Only one debatably weaker is vorinclex. Shelodreds issue is that she does nothing until the 2nd chapter. Force sac is nice as well as targeted removal but is way overcosted.
Man it's probably a survivors bias or something but so many Mono B decks are just miserable to play against and just seem to always be able to do everything, at any point. Sheoldred played alone this game.
The lack of interaction was pretty hard to watch here. Basically no removal or inhibition for the Sheoldred deck all game. Oof. Play more interaction people!
Sheoldred is honestly not that bad, provided you bring some spot removal, some incidental graveyard hate, and don't play a self-mill reanimator goodstuff deck into a commander that dumps your graveyard onto their side of the field. Considering how those things didn't, didn't, and did happen respectively, the deck had most of its work done by everyone else. With this favorable environment, you could've tossed some corn onto the deck and let a chicken pilot it, and it would've had a reasonable shot at victory.
This is what an unhealthy game of casual EDH looks like where one player dominates almost from the word go. It's more and more common, too. Nothing against anyone playing, I'm just commenting in general on how ridiculous things are. So many games remind me more of Modern than a casual format lately (not just here, though).
@@xellsunday I'd say it's a bit of both. Yes, fast mana lets it happen, but no one shuts off the obvious deluge that's coming in the next turn or two. Or, if you do, you become the arch-enemy for some reason.
@@xellsunday it's true fast mana can cause things to happen before players are ready, but most games don't have nut hands of mana crypts sol rings etc. Games like this one, for example, a basic removal spell/counter would have changed the course of the game at several points
That was an awful game of archenemy. That sheoldred is so oppressive and unfun. Please tell seb to never bring it back unless everybody else has decks to combat it, aka no self mill reanimator decks lol
For people complaining about Sheoldred's "oppression", keep in mind that this was only possible because one of the opponents was running a self-mill reanimator deck, so Seb could skip the step of filling up the opponent's graveyard himself.
Yep!
Also turn one Sol Ring accelerated everything.
@@ioris8363 turn one sol ring, dark ritual, and a lucky e witness to grab the destroyed sol rin
@@wedgearyxsaber None of these fill up the opponents' graveyards, though... and Sheoldred can't transform unless an opponent has eight or more cards in their graveyard
@@DarkEinherjar yes but there's two restrictions to the card: the graveyard prerequisite and the mana to both play and activate the ability (which is alot)
Better you all than me, this one looked a bit one-sided and frustrating.
Cool showcase of the deck that went off though! Thanks for the great content
Felix shuffling and drawing a new seven is such a mood
Great video, looking forward to more slimefoot and squee play
Seb shouldn't have been able to return syr konrad to his hand from the eternal witness etb because it appears he milled it from the sticher supplier. Since all the etb triggers from creatures should've been on the stack already, as they entered at the same time, Seb needed a legal target for the eternal witness before any etb could've resolved first, not mattering the order of the etb triggers.
This. The game could've played wayyy differently, too!
I was thinking the same thing 😮💨
Having a self mill deck was a pretty great match up for Sheoldred
Wow, Sheoldred is such an oppressive commander... sac + destroy, discard and mill and graveyard recursion...really really strong choice for monoblack
When has a creature card named Sheoldred not been pushed to hell?
Shes one the weakest of this cycle bc of how difficult and costly she is to flip
just letting you know New Etali gets a card from everyone's deck not just your opponents so Maxime would have gotten something from their deck (don't think it would have changed anything just letting you know for the future)
It would just been his top that he put on top of his library
When you doubled the counters on Lae'zel, she should have received yet another counter due to her own ability, putting her at 5. Not that it mattered much, since Seb had an absolute control of the board at almost all times. Love playing Bright-Palm, but the deck is definitely difficult to play if your threats don't stick at all.
Sheoldred is definitely the best of the new phyrexian praetor flip cards, although Jin Gutaxias is a solid number two
I mean... if elesh norn flip you swing at least for 30 damages then wrath the board, jin protect himself with ward, help you anble its flip requirement and have a preatty good chance of winning when he flip, urabrask its one of the strongest storm deck and doesn't need to flip and vorinclex its meh.. sheoldred rely on the opponent discarded and destroyed creatures and so its preatty mid against deck that dont use big strong creatures.
Is she strong? Yes
But is she the strongest?
Um no actually it’s probably the weakest lol. Norn is a brutal stax effect that can win without even flipping, but it’s also not that hard to flip her. Urabrask is a great storm piece and again flipping is just the cherry on top while being incredibly easy to do. Jin has protection and is great card advantage. Only one debatably weaker is vorinclex. Shelodreds issue is that she does nothing until the 2nd chapter. Force sac is nice as well as targeted removal but is way overcosted.
Does anyone remember which episode had the one guy using Pokémon power cards instead of actual lands!
I know it was a Will and Rowan episode
"He plays a... Mountain"
Seb can't have returned syr konrad with eternal witness because he has to have chosen targets before he milled himself for 3.
I'm building a Sheoldred deck to try it and when I watched this game, ohh boy! I'm DEFINITELY building it 😂
This pod with a mom Sheaoldred and Slimfoot and Squee is a masacre you see it coming.
everytime I see that faldorn deck it does absolutely nothing how does this guy keep going
😂 for real
im sorry that was a faldorn deck? i swear it looked like a mediocre landfall deck instead of being r/g prosper like it should be
New Sheoldred is a monster
Definitely one of those commanders I would play once and then put away. That game didn’t look fun for anyone.
i was expecting squee and slimefoot to do things, but i knew in this matchup sheoldred had the other two decks locked down.
It's such a fun fair balanced deck
Just stopping people playing the game outright
Man it's probably a survivors bias or something but so many Mono B decks are just miserable to play against and just seem to always be able to do everything, at any point. Sheoldred played alone this game.
Take a shot every time Andrew says "Top" to die instantly
"He spins the top, then taps the top to top the top."
That's kinda funny I got a Faldhorn with the same sleeves coincidentaly 🙃
Don't we just not play the stitchers supplier? Makes sheoldred a lot slower imo.
did anyone have fun other than Seb ?
The lack of interaction was pretty hard to watch here. Basically no removal or inhibition for the Sheoldred deck all game. Oof. Play more interaction people!
That and at least a piece of graveyard hate
Felix had the shitty rec sage clone funghus in his opener :^)
Watch Seb play while everyone else slowly loses. And poor Andrew does nothing. :(
brutal!!
Sorry but I can't finish this one. Reminds me of Tergrid.. time for a banger of a video after the last 2 🙏
nothing like watching a player playing solitaire.
Sheoldred is honestly not that bad, provided you bring some spot removal, some incidental graveyard hate, and don't play a self-mill reanimator goodstuff deck into a commander that dumps your graveyard onto their side of the field. Considering how those things didn't, didn't, and did happen respectively, the deck had most of its work done by everyone else. With this favorable environment, you could've tossed some corn onto the deck and let a chicken pilot it, and it would've had a reasonable shot at victory.
Sheoldred is amazing ❤
Etali would have let Maxine also cast her sdt as its each player not opponent
Well, that was anticlimactic. I'm sorry yall got curb stomped.
So Maxime should’ve have exiled his top card cuz etali is players. Unless I am missing something
what an unfair game XD these new phyrexians are a bit too busted for their own good
Poor Slimefoot, throwing turn 5 like that. Why would you reanimate Archon, when you can draw four to find a land and lose it to Scriptures?
This is what an unhealthy game of casual EDH looks like where one player dominates almost from the word go. It's more and more common, too. Nothing against anyone playing, I'm just commenting in general on how ridiculous things are. So many games remind me more of Modern than a casual format lately (not just here, though).
Not enough people play interaction anymore, everyone just tunnel visioned on their own gameplan
@@linguinibros.productions na fast mana has become more of an issue with these insane cards the fast mana enables.
@@xellsunday I'd say it's a bit of both. Yes, fast mana lets it happen, but no one shuts off the obvious deluge that's coming in the next turn or two. Or, if you do, you become the arch-enemy for some reason.
@@xellsunday it's true fast mana can cause things to happen before players are ready, but most games don't have nut hands of mana crypts sol rings etc. Games like this one, for example, a basic removal spell/counter would have changed the course of the game at several points
@@linguinibros.productions this is such a weird argument. Games with sol rings turn one happen all the time.
everybody hatin on Sheoldred when the real offender was Sol ring
That was an awful game of archenemy. That sheoldred is so oppressive and unfun. Please tell seb to never bring it back unless everybody else has decks to combat it, aka no self mill reanimator decks lol