Telogreika (Soviet WW2 Quilted Jacket) Field Test & Review!
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- After weeks of waiting, my package from Ukraine finally arrived! An icon of Soviet history, the uniform of Stalingrad, the Telogreika! But how does an 80 year old piece of military uniform technology hold up against today's gear? I took mine out to the field on a cold, wet day to find out
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That thing is awesome, such a classic look.
Yea, I was shocked that it actually looked kind of cool
My telogreika was made in ~1960s, bought it for 40€ maybe 4-5 years ago.
Its not in its original state anymore: a collar and 4 belts hoops have been added, elbow pads have been added, buttons have been strengthened and a belt made out of kirza was customized to fit it. This relic of the USSR has made me a regular at the local seamstress!
Thats whats great about mass produced surplus gear- its not some rare antique, so you can mod it, reuse it, or repurpose it guilt free
@@MilitaryHistoryGearReview these jackets are kinda like veshmeshok backpacks.
They're so crude and simple that its actually kinda beautiful - perfect in all its imperfections.
Thanks for showing us your acquisition! If we had unlimited time and money, it would be fun to remake the телогрейка with updated materials and slightly altered design. I envision the following:
1. Updated fill insulation.
2. Rugged exterior fabric with some water resistance--not goretex High wear areas like the elbows would receive a high wear layer of cordura or some such--closely colo-rmatched to the main color.
3. Coyote brown color perhaps reversible to OD green or white snow camouflage.
4. Bidirectional rugged zippers down the sides to expel heat or to provide access to belt equipment--duty belt/sidearm, et cetera.
5. Retain the basic wrap around front closure and high collar, with the addition of a provision to button or fasten the high collar open--kinda like a double breasted US cavalry coat.
6. Elastic thumb holes in sleeve ends--roll up to stow.
7. Slots for soft elbowpads and/or elastic loops to retain elbow pads.
8. handwarmer pockets with pass through.
9. Sleeve and or forearm pockets for pen, dope or range card (marksmanship).
10. Paired with similarly designed salopettes.
11. I thought that perhaps the jacket and bottoms should be combined with a waterproof exterior shell to wear over. However, it would be too much like a горка (spelling?). Instead it could be combined with a poncho type device made from heat blocking material--to help defeat thermal imaging, et cetera.
12. всс винторез or ас вал for the reconnaissance troops wearing the full padded kit.
LOL
Best cheap surplus winter jacket I’ve had was the old US Bear jacket. Good video, my man.
Yea, the fit is similar and its like, 1/6th the price
I just got a bulgarian version today! It's nice, but a little stiff- I'm hoping it'll take a more comfortable shape with a bit of wearing. I got it for only $58NZD so I'm pretty happy! Something I may do is add a few buttons to the inside of the neck opening so that I can button on my czech M85 fur collar.
Just so slightly off with the history there - padded jackets were introduced into the Russian military in early WW1 and they were meant to be used as an extra layer of thermal isolation worn during winter time over a wool uniform and under the shinel (great coat), although you can notice the usage of the padded jacket solo, without the shinel. The first Soviet telogreikas (patern of 1932) was designed with the same rules of usage in mind. It was just during WW2 that telogreikas were started to be used as a standalone.
Nice video! Enjoyed the history. Seems like it would be a great under-layer for your gorka.
Agreed. The fit reminds me a lot of the US Armys old bear jacket undershirt
There’s bottom to go with it
I picked up one a few days ago for 35 usd in a mil surplus store, its a grey bulgarian army one, size IIIБ (or medium-tall) and it fits perfectly (a bit stiff but ig its normal for a 70 yo never worn jacket). And Ive been told that it was only in ideal conditions used as an outer layer, and in wet/humid enviroments it was used together with a shinel greatcoat as an additional layer, as the telogreika itself was very prone to absorb water and become useless. Anyways great video!
The telegreika is used in cold dry weather. It was not meant to be waterproof or repellent. I got one shipped from Russia and wore it the whole winter. It's amazing, built like their tanks and AK, simple to use and easily repaired if need be.
I assume it is meant to be worn under the plash palatka or another rainproof poncho. The Soviets really knew how to make a tool as simple and functional as possible for the job it was designed for.
@@MilitaryHistoryGearReview I think that the red army did wore the telegreika under the plash palatka when it was raining and cold. Now how well the plash palatka fared in the rain since its canvas is the billion dollar question. I wore the palatka in rain. It was not downpouring just light rain and it did great. I would imagine that in heavy downpour, even the best 21st century coat would be useless. Everything gets one way or another wet in heavy downpours. It's part of the game.
It was also meant to be worn under an overcoat or Bekesha tulup sheepskin fur coat.
Simple to use and easily repaired...unlike the cars 😔
@@BaconSlayer69 to some people yes. But for me, I always go old school and traditional school as it yet has to fail me yet.
I have the later model style fur collar one from the afghan war, and it's great, it looks great and surprisingly fits perfectally even though I'm 6'4 and have a pretty long torso.
I have the jacket and pants. I wore a tshirt and underwear underneath in 70 degrees below zero with windchill. These are amazing uniforms and very high quality. If you can get one they aren’t rain coats, they are meant for wind and temps so cold snow won’t melt on contact. Surprisingly I had a way bette time with this than a 200 dollar carhart winter coat
Where did you get it?
@@nicholasferguson6499 I got them from russia
@@nicholasferguson6499 Soviet power sells some
@@yurivoorhees8260 dude! I got one (pants and jacket) on ebay from Ukraine. It’s fucking amazing!
I'm thinking of coming out with a line of these. I'm thinking 12oz double fill duck quilted on wool batting. Wool batting is pretty cheap since staple length isn't a huge issue and minimal processing. Same for double fill duck since it's an industry standard item. I like the concept of this jacket - a breathable quilted jacket. Maybe a fine cotton lining if nor viscose satin.
I love mine, it’s such a unique coat that feels utilitarian
Thanks for this vid, oddly enough I picked up a canadian armed forces wool service shirt from the 80s which was like 25 bucks CAD and its in perfect condition , I'm planning on picking up one of these jackets aswell honestly 80 dollars doesnt seem like too much to spend on them while they are still available (proper ones) if you are used to spending alot on a jacket and if you are buying a piece of history but if you are looking at pure material costs then I guess so
If it were produced now, the quilting would run horizontally like the Patagonia down sweater or other comprobable quilted jackets. It keeps the fluff from drifting to the bottom
I don't know what soviet magic is used in these but the fluff hasn't drifted downwards at all in 4-5 years of use.
My theory is that since its just cotton they make it into a big sheet that they sew the outer and inner canvas around of. That way the stitching keeps all the fluff in place. I've seen this method in use on a USSR made winter work jacket, it had a telogreika style liner in it and i got to take a peek inside it (the jacket is being taken apart repurposed for other stuff.)
@@piewithmoustachepwm I had this exact thought for how they might've made them while I walked home with mine earlier. They needed a shit ton, and I reckon doing it that way is quicker and easier than stuffing each section individually, so I wouldn't be surprised.
@@Shot5hells if I ever get the chance I def wanna disect an M88 Afghanka parka or its cousin models. Knowing how Soviets liked reusing old stuff and technology I wouldn't be surprised if the liner was made the same the way Telogreika jackets were decades before
@@piewithmoustachepwm I have the czech M85 parka which is very similar, and it's liner is a detachable thing made of thick synthetic fur on the inner face. The Soviet M88 looks to be the same fur material but isn't the same design, pretty sure they are sewn in rather than removable with buttons.
@@Shot5hells the M88 liners are detachable, I own a VSR-93 one from '96. The outer shell is cotton canvas with cotton fleece liner and the faux fur collar is attached to the cotton padding liner, but since i only have the 1 i aint disecting its (its my warmest winter coat and second most heavy, slightly over 2kg, heviest is a Soviet wool greatcoat from the 80s)
Dubon parkas used by the idf are really warm and pretty affordable. I got one a couple years ago and have not found a situation to use it in because its too warm. A couple years ago when we got hit by that polar vortex and it got cold my scarf was freezing to my face but I still had to periodically open this parka to vent a little bit of air.
there is also a pocket in the inside inside the left side while wearing it. fits a pack of cigs nicely. I assume thats what it was originally sized for. cheers!
Ive got mine i use it as a secondary layer. Next layer is my waterproof gortex. Then snow cammies. With gaiters.
Sometimes they can also go on between $40-$60 if you are lucky to find them on ebay.
Телогрейка или Фуфайка- классная вещь..одно плохо воду не любит..только для сухой холодной погоды!
Where did you get your telogreika? I’m looking to buy one. If’s such a cool look
You could make a telogreika with a nailon upper, and that would make it a nicer garment for rainy days
That would be cool actually!
I found a telokreika vest on a Soviet surplus site which would be great for me as I live in California and only need to warm my torso in anything lower than 54 but higher than 42
N3b is as warm as typical canada goose jackets for me. M65 was go to for years.
A way to improve the telogreika would be to have bigger closing pockets but guess its unnecceary to improve it with modern stuff. Should def be more durable than moder puffers though built more for lightweight.
For sure, I think trading light weight for durability is worth it. walking around I snagged it on a few thorns and the telogreika was fine. Not sure a commercial puffer would have fared as well.
I have a some telogreika’s, and they’re great. However, I don’t know how to “fluff” them. Any recommendations?
Great jacket..👍👍👍
Soviet gear and German gear work the best honestly. I'm trying to get me a jacket before they are all gone. Once I get mine and the trousers to go with em I'm gonna make.mine more water resistant.
Damn, I live in a tropical environment and rains a lot, so I guess this jacket won't be useful for this conditions.
You need a poncho
So I basically is a good liner jacket with something over it
*@ Military History Gear Review* - Did you know that jacket Telogreika _(a.k.a. "Vatnik")_ is a Russian slang word for a Russian Baby Boomer? see video link: ruclips.net/video/vzKdMjTJ-AQ/видео.html . Also watch this English vlogger who goes to Belarus _(Byelorussia)_ & a local "vatnik" initially shows him around a cemetery. Later on the local starts blaming him & the West for Soviet deaths during World War 2. The local probably showed him the cemetery because it was for the argument that was about to transpire ruclips.net/video/oaletsYICyI/видео.html
That's pretty funny about the telogrieka for baby boomer.
Got one for 19$, both pants and jacket :-)
Lmao I was actually planning on getting one of my own
Its still worth it just for the cool, unusual look. Just triple check the sizing
@@MilitaryHistoryGearReview
Yeah the sizing gets confusing at times since I'm a US Medium and some say that size 2 is medium, and others day that size 3 is medium.
I'm a medium long top in NATO gear, and the 2 was just too short for me.
@@MilitaryHistoryGearReview Good to know, thanks!
@@MilitaryHistoryGearReview Btw, the telogreika isn't waterproof right?
ソ連軍の服は洗練されてて好き
I have a red army over coat ....
Actually you are incorrect about the origin of the QUILTED JACKETS... It actually originated out of CHINA 🇨🇳!
Keep dreaming😅