"Millions must die" Common rabble: (cheering, roaring applause) "Georgia Guidestones aren't all that bad" Peasants: (boooing, screaming, throwing tomatoes)
It's quite simple, Georgia guidestones are monument which is where freedumb of expression mindset comes in, even if contents are horrible. While millions must die, like darwinism is a sentiment which is shared because they don't see themselves as part of the weaker side.
Very insightful. I don't find it likely though people choose existence over the mice verse, think about people who've made it rich and afterwards do nothing but get depressed. Cities are just what you described, population dumps, where people come to die. It sort of has an effect on your psyche. Maybe its generational or just the state of affairs or something
A big factor hindering a lot of young couples from having kids is lack of space/real estate. No one wants to raise a kid in a one bedroom and few people my age can afford something bigger without sacrificing the job opportunities that come with living in/around a major city.
Diversity frankly seems like a much bigger problem. Houses are better and bigger dollar for dollar, but you have to choose between an expensive house or a cheap one, and with diversity people hunker down.
Back at the late 1800s, early 1900s, multiple generations of a family would live in one room in the tenements of NYC. I feel that way of life will need to come back for new york college graduates to have a kid
When you look at traits like intelligence, in pre-historic hunter gatherer times, there were a lot of ups and downs. For times, maybe even periods of thousands of years, certain traits may have been selected for, only to then just as strongly be selected against, back and forth. This is true for certain traits generally, and while intelligence has been selected for from ancient times until industrialization, it still had ups and downs in its rate depending on times of war, famine, cultural shifts leading to more violence, etc.
My issue with overpopulation ideologies is that it only looks at material concerns: food, water,space, etc . But there is a lot we could do before we get to that point and carrying capacity can be artificially increased, especially if certain new technologies take off. I disagree with Malthuse. That being said the qualitative and immaterial concerns are far more pressing. As the population exponentially increases, the well endowed grow in arithmetic proportion, but the ill endowed grow in geometric proportion. That is to say the lower quality types, being the post prolific, are actually the population growing exponentially. I fail to see how this can lead to anything other than a fatal regression in the species, such as we’ve already seen, because the lowest social strata, defined qualitatively, ascend above all others and annihilate all forms of differentiation and life outside of the mass technological system. We should also consider that mass production inevitably leads to a decrease in quality, defined as producing something with no purpose beyond producing as much of it as possible. I fail to see how this does not apply to human beings, in fact the 19th-21st century proves that point. This creates a feedback loop were as the population increases, the material goods increase too, first in consonance and second superfluously so; therefore the material goods decrease in quality along the same line as the population leading, yet again, to a fatal regression in both domains.
This was very interesting. To me it seems like with practically anything there is a degree of social hysteria that prohibits these topics from being adequately analyzed and assessed, because if you bring this topic up the most common responses you are going to get is that either population growth is the literal antichrist and we will all die in 5 years,or that infinite growth is a good thing and any damage to the environment and collective society is justified as long as the price of my favourite cheap plastic garbage goes down by 5 cents. Phrasing it like this in that it is just another aspect of life in this world that we might have to deal with, while maybe overly optimistic, is probably the best for the overall sanity of people. I will say though that just because former models failed to predict the trends it will likely not stop anyone from trying again, and in all fairness I do not see a single concrete reason as to why it would not be possible to one day create a comprehensive and accurate model. We learn from our mistakes after all, so I do not exactly agree on the view that attempting to create such thing is futile. Like, it might be, but we would never know for sure. Finally I'd also like to add a tiny comment about ecological concerns- I was raised in a family of two ecologists and obviously knew and had connections with many more, some world famous. And for how much concerns about the environment or the ecology or the global food web I've heard, never, not once was the blame for it attributed to population growth, because any ill that is brought up as an alleged consequence of population growth is much more easily and better explained by technological development or economical growth. And I bring this up because I have absolutely no idea where this concept came from, given how it has no basis in reality and not even diehard green people in research believe in it. I am genuinely interested where and when this shit originated, did someone write something influential on this, or is someone financing the spread of this misinformation, or are there fuckin FEMA camps where they brainwash people into this, because it really feels like a piece of viral programming. This thing just randomly popped out at one point and really caught on with the masses
The idea "popped out of nowhere" because it's pretty much exclusively what all government sources claim, or at least have claimed since 2000, and the U.S. education system is reliant on the government's understanding, or willingness to understand, and all of our "outdated" (truth, embodiment of consistency, magically just stops being consistent) textbooks are replaced with new ones that conveniently organize and characterize the data so you know that you are literally a cockroach, according to scientists. Don't forget your house will be underwater in 10 years, 50 years ago, and also in 10 years, 100 years ago, and also in 10 years, yesterday. Maybe 5 years because not enough people were scared enough to put mystery juice in their arm. If you're not paranoid and suicidal, you're just not wanted by the powers that be, frankly. Actually you're threatening and are now a terrorist of some kind.
What you're talking about is actually diminishing marginal utility. It may be the case that only very large companies can even put up enough capital to make certain innovations, and the increased scale may be disproportionately good, but that doesn't disprove diminishing marginal utility. And as far as the innovations and specializations in land use, it's an economic problem. You can't even hope to specialize some areas into timber land and some into orchards, etc, if you're just too poor. Pre-modern agriculture was very limited as to where you could farm especially as it pertains to water. Nowadays most of the prime agricultural land is actually paved over which would leave people screwed if there were a cataclysmic collapse. Some places, like British Columbia, go to great lengths to try and preserve that land.
my gen x aunt has had her daughters on birth control since age 13, saying "attackers don't care if you are or aren't on it" and they see it as empowering and being safe. My cousins are both developmentally stunted, and you can tell by looking at their faces, it's NOT a good idea
Not only are evolution and various ecological problems happening at an unprecedented rate, we're going to have hundreds of millions of African refugees. It will make the population movements of the 20th century look like child's play. An interesting idea for a podcast would be to look at Yascha Mounk's latest book and social capital in general.
@@fulconandroadcone9488 Yes, some 70 IQ African is going to help out your country. More like they'll just sponge off welfare. Japan has been shrinking for quite a while now, and they make up for it with capital investments. Now they're still a keynesian nightmare state, but that's a separate issue. The other issue is they'll then be here for a long time as citizens warping the genetics of the native populations. We could do just do what the UAE and other Arab countries do and have them go home once the work is done never giving them citizenship, but we're ruled by evil people.
I have one critique. The population number of 8 billion is most likely not correct. The example I have is China. If you add all the biggest citys in China, all 50.000 citizens and more, you don't even get close to 1 billion. Of course you could argue, the rest of the chinese all live in a lot of smaller towns in rural areas. But if you look at the numbers of food/calories produced in a year, you could only sustain ~half a billion with this production. Of course countrys can import food to counter deficits in food production but to import enough food to sustain more than double the population is highly unlikely. Most nations produce roughly the calories they need to sustain theire own population, of course some produce more, some less than they need but to my knowledge no nation produces double or triple what they need themselfe. The same applies to India so it's population is most likely exaggerated as well.
Well there was that time china reported that they have over counted by some too many millions not sure how much. With aging populations all over the world over population might be the least of our worries
Interesting. Just to add on aren’t a lot of benefits given by the CCP to administrative regions/towns etc based on birth and population numbers? I remember reading something about how some rural towns have been found to be inflating their population numbers to get more benefits from the higher up admin units. I don’t necessarily think these small towns are lying to the extent of half a billion people not existing but probably a few million spread across rural China.
You know, I'd usually be ready to call something like that schizopost but it almost makes sense in this case. China is authoritarian and can essentially put out any data they want to, and we already know that they hit the wall hard and are experiencing a rapid population decrease. Having the largest population on earth gives them a large leverage both politically and culturally, becoming the manufacturing center of the world of course is a bigger deal but that only came about relatively recently in history, far after they established themselves as this populous giant. Without this fact I'd argue they would lose their relevance in the region to something like India so there is an incentive to keep the numbers up. Add on top of this the corruption of centralized governing where regions might over-report their data to get larger budgets and you just might have a point there. Granted I don't think it's as extreme as you say, it would be very hard to cover up such a discrepancy, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was like 15-20% lower
@@Rytheking2 I have had this comment in my mind since I read it however many months ago. I thought about it more and more, and then I thought about why people lie. I also consider that I too am from a rural area, which basically translates into being poor, and it tracks that yes, the small towns are most likely collectively lying on the magnitude of billions of people that don't actually exist, for whatever resources they get as a result. Knowing the scrutiny of the Chinese government as a whole, it probably withholds too many resources anyways, so these towns are effectively forced to lie to get what they need. Possibly even other countries inflate their population, because at the most primordial level, if you look bigger you can avoid a fight. We could just be like 4 billion people and no one would ever know.
Census's are required by law in many countries. ESPECIALLY china. You would be delusional to think population data was overcounted to such an insane degree.
Don't worry, with the modern marvels we have to go all in on one or two things without meaningful competition/local alternatives and make people live longer lives (sans the last few years), overpopulation will take care of itself
this pretends that people with poor living standards dont always attempt to overpopulate. If mortality is high, the only societies and cultures that exist are those that overproduce to match that mortality. Every population today descends from such a state of being.
Everything is crowded: school, malls, city's, naiberhoods (city) it's just unpleasant being in the woods or on a trail for solitude and it's crowded with other that want the same. This is why I go outside in the evenings or when it's cold outside or it rains.
57:57 Jordan Peterson responded in the same way to a lib college midwit: the more people and kid we get out of poverty, the more geniuses we'll have, and the more likely we will be able to find solutions to climate, carbon, food and other fake and real problems. The clip is called "Professor Jordan Peterson on climate change and climate policy at the Cambridge Union".
yeah, but be careful with his statements. he used to be reasonable gatekeeping controled opposition (he admitted that and you can see it in a video called dismantling jordan peterson, i think) and ever since he got out of his mysterious hospital phase, he went all crazy
@@thnxm8 Yep, I know. Never put anyone on a pedestal. Listen, learn, take the good parts, but always remember that no one on this planet is an infallible god. Einstein was an a$$hole as an husband and father, Gandhi was racist, and who knows what Picasso and Michelangelo did with the junk in their pants XD. Luckly for them there were no socials and we don't know. Sometimes geniuses are idiots.
Theres no magic wand that you can conjure up to solve issues like that. Just because theres slightly more high IQ people in the world, doesnt mean fucking shit. Especially if their all poor, uneducated, and lacking in job prospects.
Arithmetical and geometrical are funny ways of wording linear and exponential. As discussed, food production may even be worse than linear. However, industrialization kind of just flipped that on its head, as labor was the major bottleneck in food production and machines forced that neck wide open. This didn’t help standard of living for a long time, as the early industrial revolution was marked by extreme working conditions and living in squalor.
Anthropocentrist values will always eat up the lions share of bandwidth while discussing human population, such as the economy, agriculture, public health, etc. However, I hope I am not the only one to notice the plumetting population of countless animal species which face extinction as a direct result of unchecked human expansion, through loss of biodiversity, pollution, etc. You don't have to be a malthusian or hitler to take notice of such obvious things.
Humans outnumber all mammals on Earth by a wide margarine (excluding rodents and bats of course.) The people in these comments only see the economy, they consider anything regarding land use, environmental stress, public health, biomass loss, agriculture as a consequence of not letting the market be totally free. More people means more exploitable labor to them and they see themselves as riding the wave that increasing population growth brings. They can't fathom the consequences of the stress put on agriculture and the environment.
Malthus was right. Land is productive, due to it's energy input. In this case solar. But some land has frozen solar. If you drill down you can get this frozen solar. it's called a hydro carbon. So the land become multiple times more productive while we had access to this cheap energy input. We started with 100 barrels of oil per 1 being produced. We are now down to 4. When we hit 1 we will have the Malthus curse to deal with unless we go nuclear. :)
I just realized, when 95% of people which ever existed exist right now, it's not that unlikely that I of all people am one exist in this age prosperity.
Yup! There's actually quite an interesting statistical trick called the Doomsday Argument which utilizes this sort of anthropic 'there was this likelyhood of me being born in year x' thinking to predict when the humanity is likely to either go extinct or have a massive population collapse. I call it a trick because I don't really buy the argument, but there are people that do so you might be interested in reading about it. It's just an interesting thing regardless
@@beybladeguru101 I also thought, this isn't true, when looking at the chart. The area below the last dozen years is not 20 times as much as the area below the last centuries.
@@porky1118 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimates_of_historical_world_population “Estimates regarding the questions of "how many people have ever lived?" or "what percentage of people who have ever lived are alive today?" can be traced to the 1970s.[8] The more dramatic phrasing of "the living outnumber the dead" also dates to the 1970s, a time of population explosion and growing fears of human overpopulation in the wake of decolonization and before the adoption of China's one-child policy. The claim that "the living outnumber the dead" was never accurate. Arthur C. Clarke in 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) has the claim that "Behind every man, now alive stand 30 ghosts, for that is the ratio by which the dead outnumber the living", which was roughly accurate at the time of writing. Recent estimates of the "total number of people who have ever lived" are in the order of 100 billion.”
TFR in basically every country nowadays is below 2.9 outside of Africa. Mexico and Iran are barely beating the US. Add to that birth control permanently destroying fertility after less than a year of use.
Overpopulation means : crowded world. More consumers, more stuff humanity has to produce (food ect.) Look onto the big city's. It's awful. I don't know where you live, but look at the "how crowded and populated are every country in the world. EUROPA is overcrowded, Asia, ect. In the 1920 we were 2.1 Billion now we are 8.3 Billion. It just sucks. That's why many just start hikkimori all over the world. Just living from home.
When I become a single digit millionaire. I want to put some meme stones up somewhere and scare the conspiracy theorist. Because they believe some stones with Latin that has grammar errors in it.
How has Bill Gates been forcing it? The reason he's rich is _because_ there's a lot of people on earth. Same goes for _most_ rich people. Without all the muggles, without all those _customers..._ they'd be nothing.
Bill Gates did a Ted Talk on Carbon emissions, where he talks about reducing population growth as a method of reducing total carbon emissions. It's on youtube
Everything that they do can be understood through the lens of the rulers of the earth in open, targeted rebellion against the Almighty and against his anointed one. YHWH said: Be fruitful and multiply and fill all the earth. They say: We must be fruitless, and divide, and empty all the earth.
@@BeanOfBean I am a son of Abraham, by adoption, an inheritor of the promises made to him by the Almighty God, which means my family has changed, and my homeland I will not see in the lifetime of this body. I will see Holy Israel in the new heavens and the new earth, and that will be my home.
I still think development is GOOD and the whole world should move towards being more like Switzerland, the Netherlands or Japan, and it's possible we could devise incentives and new services that can make childrearing more appealing.
Overpopulation is an issue. Most of the CURRENT population growth is in Africa and south Asia. Everyone is gunning for western consumption levels. Imagine if India consumed and lived at a rate of the United States. How do you fix this? War, diseases, famine and death. These naturally occurs in high population areas and effects them more. Nature is healing. Do you really want a world where there is 15 billion people with the average IQ of 89 consuming at the rate of the average person in the us suburbs? It's literally impossible. Space tech in hundreds of years off, to sustain of world population. Until then, you need the population low and eugenics to achieve a spacefaring population which could sustain an infinite amount of people. Honestly if that's what these billionaire creeps are trying to do, welp they aren't wrong. Also this WEF, globo-homo stuff really isn't an issue if you live small and off on the side, and its better. Overpopulation is probably the biggest issue for this century.
@@conductingintomfoolery9163 No. Average lifespan has mostly levelled off in the developed world (in some countries it actually dipped by six months to a year). In Africa? Births per couple are decreasing, but they used to have 25-28 average lifespans a few decades ago due to child mortality, wars and famine/disease. Africa is not birthing more children - they're just hanging around longer.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD what are you taking about? The average life span in Africa is the high 60s and early 70s. Nigeria is the largest African country and is having 5-7kids per women. Next is Ethiopia at 120million. Ethiopia had a population of 30m in the 70s. Most global population growth is in Africa. Look this shit up.
The French Revolution abolished Feudalism, gave freedom and rights to all, establish a democratic system and spread it's ideal. How can you possibly think that's bad...
The French revolution was a great shame. The Noble class was the only counter balance to the Merchant class (corporations) when the corporations have complete control that's fascism.
No it didn't. In fact modern administration and governance practices, even developments in industry, etc, were already happening under the "absolute" monarchies. This is like how people allege the Soviet Union was good because of supposedly industrializing Russia when in reality it just followed the same trend line from the Czar's regime though often it actually slowed growth due to communist incompetence.
@@idan4989 Funny that you have that PFP, when in the Egyptian text "The Asclepius", Thoth tells his disciples that in the future, people will be jailed and killed for worshipping the Supreme God, by godless barbarians who turned their back on divinity. You should be ashamed of yourself LMAO.
@@MrAnsatsuken as long as i remeber the religions killed billions of people throughout history, include ofc few millions in the crusade, so you have to be ashamed of yourself to support such a barbaric religion like christianity
Really? And why do you barely get around 2 billion if you use official data to count the population yourself (while making sure to account for rural areas as well)?
@@BeanOfBean Really buddy? Did you go to the website of each country's institute for statistics (because those are the guys dealing with statistics, not wikipedia) and manually gathered population data from their datasheets for each and every town and city in each and every country in the world? I have a feeling you didn't and you're full of shit :)
@@Borgilian How nice of you. Why would I use Wikipedia for such things? Regardless, all I did was skim across many census websites and was able to estimate my number. And again, how did you get your number? I’m not denying the possibility that there is only 2 billion people, but I am just trying to be realistic.
Per the last chapter and sexuality: The increased sexual dysfunction in younger generations is no accident. The aim (the endgame, really) of turning the women into virtual strippers and the men into simpering paypigs is to utterly shatter the concept of the nuclear family, inducing a total stoppage of childbearing in a significant portion of the population. This doesn't totally block, but rather mitigates, the accelerated growth talked about in the video. It also has the bonus effect of vectoring more of the familyless, sexless populace into being pawns for the system. The women occupy endless slots of useless entertainment and managerial positions, while the men fill the roles of cogs in the service overmachine. Both, encouraged in their behavior as they are, act as partial behavior sinks for the other, without many of the real benefits of either. The men provide no security or tangible material, and the women no nurturing or care. A society of users and consumers, riding adrift atop an unregulated market that's running hellbent for leather to the edge of the cliff formed by the Black Line That Goes Up™. But just like population, economic growth isn't infinite, and as soon as the hubris of modern macroeconomics comes crashing down around our ears, things will (after a long period of suffering) return to zero. Sort of. In a way. The mass psychological damage that has been inflicted on the last five generations is neither totally irreparable nor totally fixable, but it will take lots of hard work to deprogram enough people to continue society as a workable whole. This isn't the first time, nor will it be the last. TL;DR This ain't our first rodeo, and Mr. Bones says the ride never ends.
Indeed and marrying foreigners isn't going to help either. I'm stuck at one kid and short of hoping the wife disappears or divorces to try for a younger model, that's the end of me.
There isn't this conspiracy to reduce the population, birth rates fall naturally as a product of social and economic progress. Birth rates are highest in places that rely on subsistence agriculture as it only works because of the free labor kids provide. Porn and degeneracy isn't wants keeping millennials and zoomers from having kids, it's simply most recognize the life long commitment a kid is, that the majority of available jobs make it possible just to barely ensure your own survival and that the traditional family dynamic failed most of them growing up who witnessed thier parents trapped in toxic relationship dynamics and suffered abuse as a result.
malthus asserted linear food supply growth and exponential population growth. whereas in reality - populations grow along with resources - tracking it with mostly micro adjustments.
Yeah, that is how it happened in the past, and once the carrying capacity is again reached, you have famines and it hovers around that size. The population shot back up after the black death. The population shot up in India after the arrival of the British only to experience famines and slow.
I would like to add that food in last 100-200 years grew exponentially - from every acre we are producing way more tons of food than it was 100 years ago - you know fertilizers, chemicals, machinery that quicken up the work at farms etc.
Exponential food production preceded exponential population growth. We currently produce more then enough food to feed the expected 10 billion people on the planet. Distribution is the problem. I have 2 degrees in Food Systems and have a food distribution company. What do I know?
This episode I had released on the podcast website, but this is its first time on RUclips.
See the rest here: notrelated.xyz
Thanks. I really prefer interacting with people in the comments rather than just listening to the audio.
Wow Mr. Smith, you're like Jordan Peterson in smartness or something!
Let's be honest there don't need to be more inner city Americans in America or abroad.
@@ep5019 not for you to decide : )
@@coffeedude no, it's for the abortionist
Congratulations on blowing up the guidestones Luke
it was Sam Hyde, not Luke. ....how does he keep getting away with it!?!
@@imissnickplur4964 They did a collab on it.
I'm Spartacus
@@imissnickplur4964 We've never seen Luke and Sam in the same place..
@@BillWilsonBG holy shidd
47:25 "The 20th century is literally the reddit of centuries"
made me spill my drink lmao
If the 20th century was reddit, then what is even the 21th century?
TikTok
@@KrisKeyes this.
btw i use arch
@@WhiteFox-ce8ep The 4chan century, for better and for worse. But mostly for worse.
"Millions must die"
Common rabble: (cheering, roaring applause)
"Georgia Guidestones aren't all that bad"
Peasants: (boooing, screaming, throwing tomatoes)
It's quite simple, Georgia guidestones are monument which is where freedumb of expression mindset comes in, even if contents are horrible. While millions must die, like darwinism is a sentiment which is shared because they don't see themselves as part of the weaker side.
The dessert cloche has fallen…
Millions must pie
Very insightful. I don't find it likely though people choose existence over the mice verse, think about people who've made it rich and afterwards do nothing but get depressed. Cities are just what you described, population dumps, where people come to die. It sort of has an effect on your psyche. Maybe its generational or just the state of affairs or something
Reminder: YOU are the carbon they want to reduce
AND the carbon they want to TAX.
That is very profound 😊 I'll be using that if you don't mind and if you do, too bad😂
@@s.b.3275can you just speak normal instead of sassy
“The 20th century is the Reddit of centuries” ~ L. M. Smith
lmao, correct
what does the M stand for
@@thnxm8 Microsoft 365
@@jiwoo-k lol
I love Jesus
I love my family
I love turtles
I love Buddha
And he probably loves you
I love Jesus too.
A big factor hindering a lot of young couples from having kids is lack of space/real estate. No one wants to raise a kid in a one bedroom and few people my age can afford something bigger without sacrificing the job opportunities that come with living in/around a major city.
Diversity frankly seems like a much bigger problem. Houses are better and bigger dollar for dollar, but you have to choose between an expensive house or a cheap one, and with diversity people hunker down.
Back at the late 1800s, early 1900s, multiple generations of a family would live in one room in the tenements of NYC. I feel that way of life will need to come back for new york college graduates to have a kid
@@gauloise6442 boomers screwed it with their entitlement and spread the rotten mindset across the west.
Don't fret Bill Gates! More people means more opportunity to fulfill your dream and become a feudal lord!
Really missed the opportunity to place the "Billions must die" Chudjak in the thumbnail
Doing a back, shoulders, biceps workout and listen to this. What could be better 💪😎
doing it while eating a cheese burger like a true american patriot
did a kegel exercise and now listening to this 😈😈😈
@@bahshas when you train hard if your stomach is full you will throw up
imagine not squatting 24/7 lmao
@@koffing2073 THROWING UP LIKE AN AMERICAN 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
Don't forget the part where Malthsus plagiarized his whole work from an Italian guy
When you look at traits like intelligence, in pre-historic hunter gatherer times, there were a lot of ups and downs. For times, maybe even periods of thousands of years, certain traits may have been selected for, only to then just as strongly be selected against, back and forth. This is true for certain traits generally, and while intelligence has been selected for from ancient times until industrialization, it still had ups and downs in its rate depending on times of war, famine, cultural shifts leading to more violence, etc.
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My issue with overpopulation ideologies is that it only looks at material concerns: food, water,space, etc . But there is a lot we could do before we get to that point and carrying capacity can be artificially increased, especially if certain new technologies take off. I disagree with Malthuse. That being said the qualitative and immaterial concerns are far more pressing. As the population exponentially increases, the well endowed grow in arithmetic proportion, but the ill endowed grow in geometric proportion. That is to say the lower quality types, being the post prolific, are actually the population growing exponentially. I fail to see how this can lead to anything other than a fatal regression in the species, such as we’ve already seen, because the lowest social strata, defined qualitatively, ascend above all others and annihilate all forms of differentiation and life outside of the mass technological system. We should also consider that mass production inevitably leads to a decrease in quality, defined as producing something with no purpose beyond producing as much of it as possible. I fail to see how this does not apply to human beings, in fact the 19th-21st century proves that point. This creates a feedback loop were as the population increases, the material goods increase too, first in consonance and second superfluously so; therefore the material goods decrease in quality along the same line as the population leading, yet again, to a fatal regression in both domains.
This was very interesting. To me it seems like with practically anything there is a degree of social hysteria that prohibits these topics from being adequately analyzed and assessed, because if you bring this topic up the most common responses you are going to get is that either population growth is the literal antichrist and we will all die in 5 years,or that infinite growth is a good thing and any damage to the environment and collective society is justified as long as the price of my favourite cheap plastic garbage goes down by 5 cents. Phrasing it like this in that it is just another aspect of life in this world that we might have to deal with, while maybe overly optimistic, is probably the best for the overall sanity of people. I will say though that just because former models failed to predict the trends it will likely not stop anyone from trying again, and in all fairness I do not see a single concrete reason as to why it would not be possible to one day create a comprehensive and accurate model. We learn from our mistakes after all, so I do not exactly agree on the view that attempting to create such thing is futile. Like, it might be, but we would never know for sure.
Finally I'd also like to add a tiny comment about ecological concerns- I was raised in a family of two ecologists and obviously knew and had connections with many more, some world famous. And for how much concerns about the environment or the ecology or the global food web I've heard, never, not once was the blame for it attributed to population growth, because any ill that is brought up as an alleged consequence of population growth is much more easily and better explained by technological development or economical growth. And I bring this up because I have absolutely no idea where this concept came from, given how it has no basis in reality and not even diehard green people in research believe in it. I am genuinely interested where and when this shit originated, did someone write something influential on this, or is someone financing the spread of this misinformation, or are there fuckin FEMA camps where they brainwash people into this, because it really feels like a piece of viral programming. This thing just randomly popped out at one point and really caught on with the masses
The idea "popped out of nowhere" because it's pretty much exclusively what all government sources claim, or at least have claimed since 2000, and the U.S. education system is reliant on the government's understanding, or willingness to understand, and all of our "outdated" (truth, embodiment of consistency, magically just stops being consistent) textbooks are replaced with new ones that conveniently organize and characterize the data so you know that you are literally a cockroach, according to scientists.
Don't forget your house will be underwater in 10 years, 50 years ago, and also in 10 years, 100 years ago, and also in 10 years, yesterday. Maybe 5 years because not enough people were scared enough to put mystery juice in their arm. If you're not paranoid and suicidal, you're just not wanted by the powers that be, frankly. Actually you're threatening and are now a terrorist of some kind.
its occult programming and psycho-spiritual brainwashing.
>t. former occultist
I remember when I first watched this I thought Luke was going to diss mice and shill the trackpoint.
Did you watch the "Why Files" or something last night? He did a new video on this last night
I was about to comment the same thing haha
What you're talking about is actually diminishing marginal utility. It may be the case that only very large companies can even put up enough capital to make certain innovations, and the increased scale may be disproportionately good, but that doesn't disprove diminishing marginal utility. And as far as the innovations and specializations in land use, it's an economic problem. You can't even hope to specialize some areas into timber land and some into orchards, etc, if you're just too poor. Pre-modern agriculture was very limited as to where you could farm especially as it pertains to water. Nowadays most of the prime agricultural land is actually paved over which would leave people screwed if there were a cataclysmic collapse. Some places, like British Columbia, go to great lengths to try and preserve that land.
my gen x aunt has had her daughters on birth control since age 13, saying "attackers don't care if you are or aren't on it" and they see it as empowering and being safe. My cousins are both developmentally stunted, and you can tell by looking at their faces, it's NOT a good idea
Not only are evolution and various ecological problems happening at an unprecedented rate, we're going to have hundreds of millions of African refugees. It will make the population movements of the 20th century look like child's play. An interesting idea for a podcast would be to look at Yascha Mounk's latest book and social capital in general.
If some countries demographics to go by we will need those refuges to fill jobs.
@@fulconandroadcone9488 Yes, some 70 IQ African is going to help out your country. More like they'll just sponge off welfare. Japan has been shrinking for quite a while now, and they make up for it with capital investments. Now they're still a keynesian nightmare state, but that's a separate issue. The other issue is they'll then be here for a long time as citizens warping the genetics of the native populations. We could do just do what the UAE and other Arab countries do and have them go home once the work is done never giving them citizenship, but we're ruled by evil people.
@@fulconandroadcone9488 And lose your dignity and replace your people? There are more solutions than to just let people in.
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@@JohnSmith-ry7wh I do
Luke talking about the Georgia guide stones in present tense.
This was recorded last year.
@@LukeSmithxyz You need to dub over the outdated parts with Sneedacity.
So Luke, where were you when it all went down?
@justACatBuryMe of course. He will come to your house and tell you the Story in persona 💪😁
@@LukeSmithxyz make an update video
I have one critique. The population number of 8 billion is most likely not correct.
The example I have is China. If you add all the biggest citys in China, all 50.000 citizens and more, you don't even get close to 1 billion. Of course you could argue, the rest of the chinese all live in a lot of smaller towns in rural areas. But if you look at the numbers of food/calories produced in a year, you could only sustain ~half a billion with this production. Of course countrys can import food to counter deficits in food production but to import enough food to sustain more than double the population is highly unlikely. Most nations produce roughly the calories they need to sustain theire own population, of course some produce more, some less than they need but to my knowledge no nation produces double or triple what they need themselfe.
The same applies to India so it's population is most likely exaggerated as well.
Well there was that time china reported that they have over counted by some too many millions not sure how much.
With aging populations all over the world over population might be the least of our worries
Interesting. Just to add on aren’t a lot of benefits given by the CCP to administrative regions/towns etc based on birth and population numbers? I remember reading something about how some rural towns have been found to be inflating their population numbers to get more benefits from the higher up admin units. I don’t necessarily think these small towns are lying to the extent of half a billion people not existing but probably a few million spread across rural China.
You know, I'd usually be ready to call something like that schizopost but it almost makes sense in this case. China is authoritarian and can essentially put out any data they want to, and we already know that they hit the wall hard and are experiencing a rapid population decrease. Having the largest population on earth gives them a large leverage both politically and culturally, becoming the manufacturing center of the world of course is a bigger deal but that only came about relatively recently in history, far after they established themselves as this populous giant. Without this fact I'd argue they would lose their relevance in the region to something like India so there is an incentive to keep the numbers up. Add on top of this the corruption of centralized governing where regions might over-report their data to get larger budgets and you just might have a point there. Granted I don't think it's as extreme as you say, it would be very hard to cover up such a discrepancy, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was like 15-20% lower
@@Rytheking2 I have had this comment in my mind since I read it however many months ago. I thought about it more and more, and then I thought about why people lie. I also consider that I too am from a rural area, which basically translates into being poor, and it tracks that yes, the small towns are most likely collectively lying on the magnitude of billions of people that don't actually exist, for whatever resources they get as a result. Knowing the scrutiny of the Chinese government as a whole, it probably withholds too many resources anyways, so these towns are effectively forced to lie to get what they need. Possibly even other countries inflate their population, because at the most primordial level, if you look bigger you can avoid a fight. We could just be like 4 billion people and no one would ever know.
Census's are required by law in many countries. ESPECIALLY china.
You would be delusional to think population data was overcounted to such an insane degree.
Don't worry, with the modern marvels we have to go all in on one or two things without meaningful competition/local alternatives and make people live longer lives (sans the last few years), overpopulation will take care of itself
the problem is, it's always the poorest countries with the most resource issues/problems that are having their population explode.
Man makes plans and God laughs.
this pretends that people with poor living standards dont always attempt to overpopulate. If mortality is high, the only societies and cultures that exist are those that overproduce to match that mortality. Every population today descends from such a state of being.
When is the next episode comming out?
This was only recommended after scrolling down lots of sidebars and finally it showed this to me, even though most of your videos are on my home page.
Everything is crowded: school, malls, city's, naiberhoods (city) it's just unpleasant being in the woods or on a trail for solitude and it's crowded with other that want the same. This is why I go outside in the evenings or when it's cold outside or it rains.
Henry George spoke about the land issue in the 1800s.
Latin america has below replacement fertility rates too though. in fact everywhere except africa basically does.
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And every time the Scientist would check in on the "Mouse Utiopia" . the Mice would say "Go away I'm Batten!!". 😂😂
57:57 Jordan Peterson responded in the same way to a lib college midwit: the more people and kid we get out of poverty, the more geniuses we'll have, and the more likely we will be able to find solutions to climate, carbon, food and other fake and real problems. The clip is called "Professor Jordan Peterson on climate change and climate policy at the Cambridge Union".
yeah, but be careful with his statements. he used to be reasonable gatekeeping controled opposition (he admitted that and you can see it in a video called dismantling jordan peterson, i think) and ever since he got out of his mysterious hospital phase, he went all crazy
@@thnxm8 Yep, I know. Never put anyone on a pedestal. Listen, learn, take the good parts, but always remember that no one on this planet is an infallible god. Einstein was an a$$hole as an husband and father, Gandhi was racist, and who knows what Picasso and Michelangelo did with the junk in their pants XD. Luckly for them there were no socials and we don't know. Sometimes geniuses are idiots.
Theres no magic wand that you can conjure up to solve issues like that.
Just because theres slightly more high IQ people in the world, doesnt mean fucking shit. Especially if their all poor, uneducated, and lacking in job prospects.
Arithmetical and geometrical are funny ways of wording linear and exponential. As discussed, food production may even be worse than linear. However, industrialization kind of just flipped that on its head, as labor was the major bottleneck in food production and machines forced that neck wide open. This didn’t help standard of living for a long time, as the early industrial revolution was marked by extreme working conditions and living in squalor.
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Anthropocentrist values will always eat up the lions share of bandwidth while discussing human population, such as the economy, agriculture, public health, etc. However, I hope I am not the only one to notice the plumetting population of countless animal species which face extinction as a direct result of unchecked human expansion, through loss of biodiversity, pollution, etc. You don't have to be a malthusian or hitler to take notice of such obvious things.
Humans outnumber all mammals on Earth by a wide margarine (excluding rodents and bats of course.)
The people in these comments only see the economy, they consider anything regarding land use, environmental stress, public health, biomass loss, agriculture as a consequence of not letting the market be totally free. More people means more exploitable labor to them and they see themselves as riding the wave that increasing population growth brings. They can't fathom the consequences of the stress put on agriculture and the environment.
Alien Chess Parable? Can I get a link to this video?
Malthus was right. Land is productive, due to it's energy input. In this case solar. But some land has frozen solar. If you drill down you can get this frozen solar. it's called a hydro carbon. So the land become multiple times more productive while we had access to this cheap energy input.
We started with 100 barrels of oil per 1 being produced. We are now down to 4. When we hit 1 we will have the Malthus curse to deal with unless we go nuclear. :)
I just realized, when 95% of people which ever existed exist right now, it's not that unlikely that I of all people am one exist in this age prosperity.
Yup! There's actually quite an interesting statistical trick called the Doomsday Argument which utilizes this sort of anthropic 'there was this likelyhood of me being born in year x' thinking to predict when the humanity is likely to either go extinct or have a massive population collapse. I call it a trick because I don't really buy the argument, but there are people that do so you might be interested in reading about it. It's just an interesting thing regardless
The statistic is wrong. I believe the stat is that 100 billion people total have ever been alive.
@@beybladeguru101 I also thought, this isn't true, when looking at the chart. The area below the last dozen years is not 20 times as much as the area below the last centuries.
@@porky1118 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimates_of_historical_world_population
“Estimates regarding the questions of "how many people have ever lived?" or "what percentage of people who have ever lived are alive today?" can be traced to the 1970s.[8] The more dramatic phrasing of "the living outnumber the dead" also dates to the 1970s, a time of population explosion and growing fears of human overpopulation in the wake of decolonization and before the adoption of China's one-child policy. The claim that "the living outnumber the dead" was never accurate. Arthur C. Clarke in 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) has the claim that "Behind every man, now alive stand 30 ghosts, for that is the ratio by which the dead outnumber the living", which was roughly accurate at the time of writing.
Recent estimates of the "total number of people who have ever lived" are in the order of 100 billion.”
It's not 95%. It's 7%. The video is grossly wrong on this point
TFR in basically every country nowadays is below 2.9 outside of Africa. Mexico and Iran are barely beating the US. Add to that birth control permanently destroying fertility after less than a year of use.
We still make pneumatic sanders in the US. Hutchins Manufacturing Company.
Where did u go bro??
The town I live in have been ruined by overpopulation and immigration
I really wanted to watch this but I got two ads every 6 minutes
"The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race."
-Theodore John Kaczynski
Overpopulation means : crowded world. More consumers, more stuff humanity has to produce (food ect.) Look onto the big city's. It's awful. I don't know where you live, but look at the "how crowded and populated are every country in the world. EUROPA is overcrowded, Asia, ect. In the 1920 we were 2.1 Billion now we are 8.3 Billion. It just sucks. That's why many just start hikkimori all over the world. Just living from home.
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We had business software called Mouse.
And then there is Schagen.
When I become a single digit millionaire. I want to put some meme stones up somewhere and scare the conspiracy theorist. Because they believe some stones with Latin that has grammar errors in it.
grammatical errors*
How has Bill Gates been forcing it? The reason he's rich is _because_ there's a lot of people on earth. Same goes for _most_ rich people. Without all the muggles, without all those _customers..._ they'd be nothing.
Bill Gates did a Ted Talk on Carbon emissions, where he talks about reducing population growth as a method of reducing total carbon emissions. It's on youtube
They pull the ladder up after themselves once they get to the top...
Just got this recommended after Vsauce 2 video
Hey Luke where is your short video on Giordano Bruno? It seems like it's off Odysee, it's really funny.
It's only on my on website: videos.lukesmith.xyz/w/6SyZuKTgtcsjxafZQodoj5
Not even sure if I put it on Odysee.
@@LukeSmithxyz Thanks man, have a good one.
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The industrial revolution and its consequences have had pros and cons for the human race
thought it was well known who built the guide stones. maybe they want it to be secret and mysterious, but... it's fabricated.
Everything that they do can be understood through the lens of the rulers of the earth in open, targeted rebellion against the Almighty and against his anointed one.
YHWH said: Be fruitful and multiply and fill all the earth.
They say: We must be fruitless, and divide, and empty all the earth.
Also, parasocial relationship health thought: perhaps don't say "see you next time." because you don't actually see us (unless its a get together).
YHWH?
If I may ask, where do you trace your family’s homeland to?
@@BeanOfBean I am a son of Abraham, by adoption, an inheritor of the promises made to him by the Almighty God, which means my family has changed, and my homeland I will not see in the lifetime of this body. I will see Holy Israel in the new heavens and the new earth, and that will be my home.
So where are your kids, brother?
Extrapolations of trends aren't stupid, but this Ehrlich sure did it in a very stupid way.
Hey guys does anyone know any other good podcasts like not related?
39:20 It's already known (thats why copper one seems the most sane option if women insist on one)
I never took a head count. I have been on a plane though.
Aren't we actually about to have a huge population collapse?
Ideas people: “Ideas, people”
I wasn’t expecting to see Sam lol
luke, the image at 52:00 is the most disgusting thing i have ever seen. im tryna eat my lunch man
Overall, I think the podcast is great, but...... there were some points of view of you like birth control, which I am skeptical about.
12:06 Luke says men can give birth. You heard it here first.
although I'm curious enough to watch, when vloggers start doing voices i stop watching
I still think development is GOOD and the whole world should move towards being more like Switzerland, the Netherlands or Japan, and it's possible we could devise incentives and new services that can make childrearing more appealing.
I thought Canada was shit country, moved to Mexico. You can do the same, go to Japan or something, no one's holding you back.
Less people is good
Dude…you need to contribute to the conversation more often. 1 year in between uploads is bullshit. Your voice needs to be heard.
Overpopulation is an issue. Most of the CURRENT population growth is in Africa and south Asia. Everyone is gunning for western consumption levels. Imagine if India consumed and lived at a rate of the United States. How do you fix this? War, diseases, famine and death. These naturally occurs in high population areas and effects them more. Nature is healing. Do you really want a world where there is 15 billion people with the average IQ of 89 consuming at the rate of the average person in the us suburbs? It's literally impossible. Space tech in hundreds of years off, to sustain of world population. Until then, you need the population low and eugenics to achieve a spacefaring population which could sustain an infinite amount of people. Honestly if that's what these billionaire creeps are trying to do, welp they aren't wrong. Also this WEF, globo-homo stuff really isn't an issue if you live small and off on the side, and its better. Overpopulation is probably the biggest issue for this century.
Overpopulation is not coming from out of control births, but longer average lifespans.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD Aging in the devloped world, births in the developing world. Look at Africa.
@@conductingintomfoolery9163 No. Average lifespan has mostly levelled off in the developed world (in some countries it actually dipped by six months to a year). In Africa? Births per couple are decreasing, but they used to have 25-28 average lifespans a few decades ago due to child mortality, wars and famine/disease. Africa is not birthing more children - they're just hanging around longer.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD what are you taking about? The average life span in Africa is the high 60s and early 70s. Nigeria is the largest African country and is having 5-7kids per women. Next is Ethiopia at 120million. Ethiopia had a population of 30m in the 70s. Most global population growth is in Africa. Look this shit up.
You just remove all the people we cannot afford to lift to the level of a white person. That solves literally all of the world's problems.
There's way too many people. The human swarm
They plan on building the pro genocide stones ;__;
Don't worry we're actually in a population decline
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Do u live under a rock? Dont u know the Georgia Guidestones got bombed?
this vid is like 4 years old 1at this pooint my guy
The French Revolution abolished Feudalism, gave freedom and rights to all, establish a democratic system and spread it's ideal. How can you possibly think that's bad...
The French revolution was a great shame. The Noble class was the only counter balance to the Merchant class (corporations) when the corporations have complete control that's fascism.
@@louferrigno4712 noble class was the current day LGBT doing sex orgies out of boredom
You're making an awful lot of assumptions about what is "bad" and what is "good".
No it didn't. In fact modern administration and governance practices, even developments in industry, etc, were already happening under the "absolute" monarchies. This is like how people allege the Soviet Union was good because of supposedly industrializing Russia when in reality it just followed the same trend line from the Czar's regime though often it actually slowed growth due to communist incompetence.
The French revolution was a blood thirsty bourgeois revolt.
christian propaganda
@@TwizzElishus and the "truth" will set you jailed
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Funny that you have that PFP, when in the Egyptian text "The Asclepius", Thoth tells his disciples that in the future, people will be jailed and killed for worshipping the Supreme God, by godless barbarians who turned their back on divinity.
You should be ashamed of yourself LMAO.
@@MrAnsatsuken as long as i remeber the religions killed billions of people throughout history, include ofc few millions in the crusade, so you have to be ashamed of yourself to support such a barbaric religion like christianity
also, 100 million died at both world wars in the christian europe, so who's the barbarian ?
@@TwizzElishus hehe, at the end, the regular population, the soldiers killed and butcher as they told! even if politicians ordered them to do so
We already hit 8B like a month or a few ago.
Really? And why do you barely get around 2 billion if you use official data to count the population yourself (while making sure to account for rural areas as well)?
@@Borgilian You're not supposed to do that, you're supposed to listen to the official state sanctioned experts.
@@Borgilian I got ~7,500,000,000 by using official data. Where did you get yours?
@@BeanOfBean Really buddy? Did you go to the website of each country's institute for statistics (because those are the guys dealing with statistics, not wikipedia) and manually gathered population data from their datasheets for each and every town and city in each and every country in the world? I have a feeling you didn't and you're full of shit :)
@@Borgilian How nice of you.
Why would I use Wikipedia for such things?
Regardless, all I did was skim across many census websites and was able to estimate my number.
And again, how did you get your number?
I’m not denying the possibility that there is only 2 billion people, but I am just trying to be realistic.
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Nice anecdote on God 😂
「 My Spirit Will Raise From The Grave
And The World Will Know I Was Right 」
-Sam Hyde
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@@thnxm8 Bro predicting his own legacy. All great art comes before its time and legends are hardly realized while they are happening.
Per the last chapter and sexuality:
The increased sexual dysfunction in younger generations is no accident. The aim (the endgame, really) of turning the women into virtual strippers and the men into simpering paypigs is to utterly shatter the concept of the nuclear family, inducing a total stoppage of childbearing in a significant portion of the population. This doesn't totally block, but rather mitigates, the accelerated growth talked about in the video. It also has the bonus effect of vectoring more of the familyless, sexless populace into being pawns for the system. The women occupy endless slots of useless entertainment and managerial positions, while the men fill the roles of cogs in the service overmachine. Both, encouraged in their behavior as they are, act as partial behavior sinks for the other, without many of the real benefits of either. The men provide no security or tangible material, and the women no nurturing or care. A society of users and consumers, riding adrift atop an unregulated market that's running hellbent for leather to the edge of the cliff formed by the Black Line That Goes Up™. But just like population, economic growth isn't infinite, and as soon as the hubris of modern macroeconomics comes crashing down around our ears, things will (after a long period of suffering) return to zero. Sort of. In a way. The mass psychological damage that has been inflicted on the last five generations is neither totally irreparable nor totally fixable, but it will take lots of hard work to deprogram enough people to continue society as a workable whole. This isn't the first time, nor will it be the last.
TL;DR This ain't our first rodeo, and Mr. Bones says the ride never ends.
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Indeed and marrying foreigners isn't going to help either. I'm stuck at one kid and short of hoping the wife disappears or divorces to try for a younger model, that's the end of me.
i love the idea of my country being taken over by redditors and coomers lmao
Are the French really as ungovernable as people say? And honestly why
@@tyloniussquib4000 i actually dont think we're ungovernable, just look at who we fuckin elected.....
@@frater_niram touche
Honestly you can make the argument that most revolutions were like that. I would say Cromwell was also a redditor of his day
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There isn't this conspiracy to reduce the population, birth rates fall naturally as a product of social and economic progress.
Birth rates are highest in places that rely on subsistence agriculture as it only works because of the free labor kids provide.
Porn and degeneracy isn't wants keeping millennials and zoomers from having kids, it's simply most recognize the life long commitment a kid is, that the majority of available jobs make it possible just to barely ensure your own survival and that the traditional family dynamic failed most of them growing up who witnessed thier parents trapped in toxic relationship dynamics and suffered abuse as a result.
Yes. Most people prefer having just 1 kid a family. 2 at most. 3? Crazy talk.
Sam Hyde Ted talk one of the most profound video I’ve ever seen a true intellectual
I was gonna say the same thing. Best TedTalk ever.
we're just gonna kill 'em
Sam hyde as in the neonaz1 that donated money to the daily stormer?
I am pretty sure that the amount of food that 400lb Americans eat is enough to feed 15bil people 💪😅
They can keep their fat satured empty junk food
You can’t take away my right to be fat. Don’t thread on me
Video games are going to become more realistic
State enforced homosexuality
WE'RE JUST GONNA KILL EM!
@@justinayers3589 BYE!!!! BYE BYE
@@Nacjotyp Sam was really close on this one. Too bad he was not aware that it would be state enforce *trans* sexuality
malthus asserted linear food supply growth and exponential population growth. whereas in reality - populations grow along with resources - tracking it with mostly micro adjustments.
Yeah, that is how it happened in the past, and once the carrying capacity is again reached, you have famines and it hovers around that size. The population shot back up after the black death. The population shot up in India after the arrival of the British only to experience famines and slow.
All forms of life have the capacity to reproduce exponentially. Humans included. Hence famines like the replier above already remarked.
I would like to add that food in last 100-200 years grew exponentially - from every acre we are producing way more tons of food than it was 100 years ago - you know
fertilizers, chemicals, machinery that quicken up the work at farms etc.
Exponential food production preceded exponential population growth.
We currently produce more then enough food to feed the expected 10 billion people on the planet.
Distribution is the problem. I have 2 degrees in Food Systems and have a food distribution company.
What do I know?
@@ThegardenbetweenusLogistics becomes increasingly difficult as operations are scaled up, is that the gist?
One problem we're not going to have in 2070, the elderly and the disabled.....
Why do you say that?
Because we're just gonna...@@websurfer5772