Huge Trains! Really Long Passenger Trains - Australian Trains
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2019
- English - The golden age long distance passenger trains & really long passenger car consists is over in Australia. Cheap airfares have enabled people to fly at low cost between major cities in Australia a lot quicker and in many cases, cheaper than rail. Previous to cheap airfares, many people chose to travel by rail. It was still cost competitive and comfortable.
There were many trains - The Trans Australia, Spirit of Progress, The Southern Aurora, Brisbane Limited, The Ghan, The Indian Pacific and The Overland were just some of the trains associated with train travel. Many of these trains ran on a daily basis and the car consist was very long. Some up to 20 cars in the train.
These days, the last of the famous trains that survive, have adjusted to a new market. Gone is the primary aim of transporting people from one place to another. Now it's tourism and people who want a unique experience who ride these trains.
Sit Back and you will see the Preserved Southern Aurora Train, The Great Southern Rail Ghan, Great Southern Rail Indian Pacific and Great Southern Rail Overland. These trains have been running for years and still look good today.
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A very good video. My first journey on the Indian Pacific was in 1974. We had electric locos out of Sydney and they were changed for diesel locos at Lithgow. The TransAustralian out of Adelaide was joined to us at Port Augusta which made for a very long train through to Perth. I remember we stopped at Cook which had a population of 2 with a little one on the way. There was a souvenir counter and light refreshments could be purchased. The hospital was in limited operation and there was a swimming pool. I forgot to mention that the Indian Pacific did not call into Adelaide in those days.
John Undli OK boomer
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Hi,
Nice to see the trains for tourists I was one in 2017 went on the Ghan a very enjoyable journey it was from Adelaide to Darwin and I found Australia a lovely place to visit with a lot of things to do the Bridge walk in Sydney, Great Barrier Reef & the Great Ocean Road to name but a few and I enjoyed all of these on my two trips from the U.K. So watching this bought all the memory's back so thank you for that.
Cheers Robert.
It's the only way these trains can realistically survive due to the sparse population these trains travel to. Thanks for having a look.
I live in the UK but have traveled to Australia 6 times, My wife and I Have done the Indian Pacific twice, Perth to Sydney 2000, Sydney to Perth 2012 We celebrated our Silver wedding Anniversary on board . we have also been on the Ghan Adelaide to Darwin in 2007, Great trips and great memories
@@SHOLTIE2004 Hi, Yes great trips indeed and on my 1st one also did New Zealand and went on there train from Greymouth to Christchurch which was super to, glad I did it then as would be impossible now hope you are well and keeping safe.
Cheers Robert.
i love austrailia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they have the best trains!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for posting.👍
Thanks for looking!
Damn, that Ghan must be 1,000 tonnes!
Yeah I reckon. Some of the freight are even longer. 1.8km
Wow lot of cars
I travelled on all the long-distance trains in May 1987 including the once a week 'The Alice" that was 1st class only from Sydney-Alice Springs. There was also a once a week train "The Queenslander" Brisbane-Cairns. Must have done 20,000 miles in a month. Our "The Canadian" can be 30 cars long in summer season.
They ramp up services over here for the peak season as well. Normally during the highest demand, a second train is scheduled.
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Great vid. I would like to do a trip on the Southern Aurora one day. Memories.
Somewhere, I have a vid of the Ghan at 46 vehicles, including 2 engines and some car carriers. Also, the first Ghan back in 2004 was slightly longer again.
I've also got memories of the Overland through Ballarat when it was a real train. They were good days back then. I also remember the Vinelander. Not so much the Aurora or Spirit as I didn't visit Melbourne much in my younger days.
wow great video bro
Thanks Mate 😀😀
I travelled on the Overland in the late 60's or early 70's. In those days it was an overnight train consisting of two divisions. One was the sleeper division that I travelled on and the next was a "stopping most stations" seating version. I recall that our division that left first, spent many an hour sitting in passing loops waiting for freight trains to pass. God help the poor folk who sat up all night. It was a trip I don't try to remember.
Remember though that there were only two divisions of the Overland back in the 70's during busy periods like Easter and Christmas, and some school holidays mainly. I know because i used to work on them. The main Overland was both a sitting and sleeper train, divided by the Club car.
Sitting up all night in economy may not have provided a good night sleep, but it enabled people on a budget to travel interstate. The sleepers were fine if you could afford them. I actually miss the overnight Overland. At least you could connect with an ongoing train or coach without having to break your journey and stay in Melbourne overnight.
@@suej9329 You make a very good point.
Brian Sloth My dad worked on the Overland too, (electrician).
@Panda Bear, I'm sorry, but I didn't mean "poor" as in broke or destitute. I live in Cairns and I've travelled to Melbourne and return several times by train in a seat. The reason I travelled to Adelaide in a sleeper wasn't my choice, but that of my travelling companion. I've travelled 10's of thousands of miles sitting up in trains all over the world. Sorry I gave the wrong impression.
I will soon be taking The Ghan from Darwin to Alice cant wait
Yes it's on my list of things to do as well 😀😀
Nice coverage..
Thanks. We both love railways 😀😀
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Interesting progression. Started my career in rail doing heritage work with the company operating the first train pictured and now i work for the company who operates the other three trains.
Well you have to get a start somewhere. Thanks for looking
Loves my time doing the heritage work, still get to do it every now and again if it lines up with my week off
3:09 a normal day in Australia
3:14 oh look! is a train!
3:21 and is taking coaches!
3:26 ok is getting longer
3:35 no way... ITS REALLY THAT LONG!?!? well goodluck on turns
(this Australian trains will mostly anger Gordon from TTTEAF soooooooo much that he'll explode)
4:32 woooow nice plan!
32 cars is a normal consist for this train as well! Thanks for looking
In the good old days say in the 70s there were discount fares for students and others which made a sleeper fare comparable to the plane fare . If you had the time and inclination and considered the journey a good part of travelling there was only one choice
The roomettes were really comfy . Great to remember lying in bed listening to the world going by
If money was an issue you went by bus
Rajiv, in the good old 70's an adult economy RETURN ticket from Melbourne to Sydney or vice versa was 25 dollars. Cheap even for that period. Yes roomettes were great considering their size. And if you were a conductor it was easy to pick up girls on sleeper trains, or they picked you up! Seriously though, it was a great era for train travel, especially when the airlines went on strike, which happened on a few occasions.
Rajiv. It is sad to say that you can no longer get the bus across the Nullabor. When the coaches stopped the red class day/ night seats were removed from the train. If you wish to travel to Perth and you don't drive or you hate flying then you pay thousands of dollars for the train or you stay home.
5:37 wow G class was running the Indian pacific
It's either the G or a DL
Great videos, but it would have been nice if you could have shown the inside seating and dining
Yes if I could have I would have. The GSR link may help you journeybeyondrail.com.au/?gclid=CjwKCAjwnf7qBRAtEiwAseBO_IIE7qZ7UVAJriyHbFLFxS0CWo5QsBByZSdzqXSZrrDs1SUkXMKmaxoCJRUQAvD_BwE
The Ghan and the Indian Pacific need dome cars like Via Rail's Canadian.
There's a thought 😀😀
Too hot
@@kguen6993 That is not true. The Canadian has something called air conditioning. Also, in a bygone era the Sant Fe RR had the Super Chief and the El Capitan that had dome cars with air conditioning. They crossed the Arizona desert in the summer without any problems. Temperatures of 115 degrees are not unusual. I rode the El Capitan with no problems.
Speaking of cars, those cars are quite similar to the cars built by Edward G. Budd in the U.S. in the 1950's. Are these Budd cars?
@@alfredfeagins1886 arguably yes
Where is this shot and where do you acquire information and timetables for the trains?
All filmed at locations around Adelaide, Sydney and Melbourne. All regular trains like The Overland, The Ghan and The Indian Pacific are all listed on the ARTC master timetable website. Other charter trains are posted on Facebook tracking groups.
Yes a very good video compilation. Having worked on most interstate trains from Melbourne to Sydney, Aurora, Daylight, Spirit, etc. I believe it was not so much cheaper airfares that ruined these trains, but idiot accountants with no transport experience, somehow gaining positions in government owned railways with the agenda of privatising just about everything. Passenger trains do not have to make profits, at least when government owned. The railways make their money mainly from freight, passenger travel is a service provided to the public in addition to freight. Passenger trains are still needed for passengers travelling to regions in between the capital cities, (roadside stations), but even that is almost ruined today. Buses are not the way to go as any form of public road transport is dangerous. It is a well known fact that air and rail are the two safest modes of transport. Australia in general, just cannot get passenger rail right. Other countries seem to be able to get some sort of reliability with passenger trains and passenger numbers per capita, but Australia is in some sort of time warp. As for the private "tourist" trains, they are not only over rated, ( I know some will disagree) , but also way too expensive. They are a rip off to put it plainly.This is one reason Australians often holiday out of the country. You can buy tickets by air to the UK for example, and travel about on various trains there, and even if you also have hotel accomodation as well, it is still cheaper than one trip on one of the privately owned trains here. It's a fact. I have done it a few times. The Ghan is a prime example of money grabbing. If the state governments, along with some of the senior wankers working in rail, woke up and did rail travel correctly like the "old days" people would come back to travel, and places like Albury, (an almost ghost station today), would come back to life. The XPT is hardly a showpiece anymore, unreliable and breaks down a lot, not to mention the state of the track in some parts of its trip. What a bloody embarrassment in the 21st century.
brian sloth, we are governed by idiots. all states of aust copped their own equivalent to beeching in the uk. the liberals give us buses and high productivity freight vehicles (road trains). labor gives us the trains of the wrong gauge. (except nsw where one and a half centuries ago some idiot made an about-face and introduced sg after agreeing to bg).
It's subsidy to the airline industry, simple as that!
Running an airliner has not got cheaper since the 1970s & though the decline in patronage of intrastate trains was well under way by the 1970s. Intestate services hadn't lost a lot of passengers, till deregulation of the airline industry.
There is certainly financial motive for the government to do that.
only a short Ghan, have been 50 cars +
Yeah just a few cars missing 😂🤣😅
Why two loco's to push a dozen passenger cars? I can only think, if a loco breaks down, there is a backup perhaps in the middle of nowhere!
Exactly right. And two locos also can get up to maximum speed quicker which actually uses less fuel. On some trips they would also attach an extra loco if one was needed to be dropped off somewhere as an extra requirement for other workings.
Your not wrong about air travel replacing long distance passenger rail services. Mainly tourists are keeping these services alive otherwise they wouldn't exist. The Overland nearly on the chopping board because our counterpart refused to fund their share so we had pick up their tab. Looking at China who has in the last 10 or so years laid 30,000 km of high speed tracks and yet here we can't seem to lay one meter of track, It is embarrassing and a disgrace.
Planes are cheaper now. Even an overseas holiday is cheaper than the ghan or ip. Plus interstate rail laid down now is for freight. But to be fair, China has the economic and political structure to allow them to do that.
J. Pikoulis Australia, large country small population, no need for high speed rail, not cost effective, compared to air travel.
@@gordonmcrae1959 really.... in Europe where air travel was available and there wasn't high speed rail available as soon as it become available air travel was discontinued.... there are people out there who find air travel daunting and I am one of them and if I had the choice between the two.. I will choose high speed because of it's efficiency...
@J Pikoulis. Our 2 major cities are 900km apart, each with 5m people, 1 small city in between, 90,000 people, 2hrs min by high speed train, if it stops in between 2:30 at least. Plains take 1:30 and are cheep, $60-$90 $A. I love train travel, hence why I am watching trains on RUclips, there has been a lot of talk over the decades for fast train, we are a wealthy country and could afford it, but the economics don’t add up, unless kangaroos 🦘 travel by train. 😂
@@gordonmcrae1959 I disagree with your sentiment..... HST is inevitable weather you like it or not
1:30 WTF is with that crossover on the right near the signal gantry?
Access to the sidings next to the mainline.
Schony747 Sure but there's a bloody greet bar across it.
A. Wellknownmyth Sure, but what is the purpose of a transverse bar in a rail system? Even if it isn't across the tracks?
Can the speed limit of part of the railway upgraded to 200km/h?
Highly unlikely as politicians have been looking at it and promising it for years 😀😀
Schony747 I have heard that a very long section of the track is dead straight
478 km of straight track across the Nullarbor Plain. The longest straight section in the world. It still has a max speed of 115vkm per hour.
The longest straight section in the world.
Schony747 Trains will not derail when they run with very high speed at that section.
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Who were those cars built by. They almost look like BUDD cars.
They were built under licence from Budd in Australia
Built by Commonwealth Engineering in Granville (Sydney) in the late 1960s and early 1970s. www.comrails.com/cr_carriages/saa00100.html
You call this long? The average length of any train in India is about 24 cars not including the engines
Long by our standards. India has millions more people to carry around so of course the trains and infrastructure have to be longer to cater for that.
They build these trains up to 36 plus cars in the Winter time
Ghan has 41 carriages plus a wagon for cars ruclips.net/video/VeVTL_MvztA/видео.html
The Ghan is long compared to almost all Indian trains.
This makes Amtrak look sad and Decrepit.
These trains only run once in each direction every week. Unlike Amtrak we don't have the population base to sustain trains like this on a regular basis.