Behringer HM300 & UM300 Demo & In-Depth Review: Almost Too Cheap to Criticize
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- Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2019
- Today in Plague Scythe Studios, I evaluate two of Behringer's highest gain distortion pedals, the Heavy Metal & Ultra Metal!
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I can attest that as a behringer collector for the past 20 years starting as a broke teenager, that casing is definitely durable. Mine fell countless times off shelves, down stairs and a garage ramp out of a car booth (I used to lend them around for friends to use) yet are still solid.
Yeah I feel like people don't understand how much plastic does or how many plastics there are.
This channel is criminally underrated. All others are paid infomercials in my opinion.
complete truth.
I love all the details, down to the production cost differences.
Those cases FEEL cheap, but they are in fact damn sturdy. Not as sturdy as a Boss pedal, but how often do you run your pedal over with a car? I don't know anyone who killed his behringer pedal by stomping on it. Friend of mine wanted a Boss Hyper Fuzz but like the HM2 they are hard to get and damn expensive. So he went with a Behringer SF300 Super Fuzz. As he plays often small gigs he did not trust that pedal sturdyness and bought a second one as replacement. After some years he changed his (fuzz) tone and the Super Fuzz got dropped from the board. He kept the old backup as backup for his new fuzz pedal and I got this Super Fuzz real damn cheap.
Cid Dax
Nuhbuddy kares.
I've actually thought about putting them in a custom box with a standard footswitch. I bet it would sell for double easy if I put some custom artwork on the case.
I'd like to take my Super Fuzz circuit and put it in a metal box with footswitches to switch between the two fuzzes and the overdrive.
More great content - well done on producing such high quality and useful videos. I just discovered your channel, already upgraded my old dusty Pod to 2.3 firmware for cottage use. I love that you do the frequency response stuff. Makes so much more sense. Keep it up
Using the UM300 with the gain at 9 o'clock in the FX loop or used as a replacement for a tubescreamer sounds pretty awesome. Plug the guitar into the input of your amp, put the gain on either the crunch or dist channel and the EQ on the amp at 11 or noon, use the EQ on the pedal.
Dude thanks for putting out such in depth, quality content.
Absolute detailed and awesome review, you do took the time!
About the built quality: Like anybody who buys a 20$ HM-2 clone is about to switch that thing off ever anyway.
I have hm 300 from about 2 years, in one rehearsal I press it 30 times, one rehearsal a week gives 96 in year , also in two years I pressed 2880 times , it still works and everything is fine , great pedal
@@lukexg1626 the band undergang uses them live and the tour like crazy, seems to work for them
Glock pistols are plastic on the outside too. Wood is a polymer too.
Came for the sounds, stayed for the in depth analysis. 11/10.
I bought an original HM-2. I have tried every dist pedal I have gotten my hands on and never kept any. The HM-2 (besides the death metal buzzsaw) has an amazing tone shaping with a touch of "burble" with the dist all the way down. Unique sound from a really unique pedal circuit. the Behringer is way close enough. everyone NEEDS to try one out because they are so cheap. You won't regret it.
The HM-2 is so much more than that Swedish death metal sound.. kind of a secret weapon once you find your personal sweet spot
Dude this channel is gonna blow up very soon! killer content. Keep it up buddy
Dude this is just what I need. Great review. New to guitar bought my first Marshall amp today. Going with the um300 so I can get those slayer riffs. Keeping rocking man
Ordered my behringer um300 and its gonna arrive this friday.
Thanks,best review of these pedals i have seen so far.take my like and subscription
Great choice of riffs man! I loved hearing 10,000 Years in there
The pedals both actually have pretty decent tones in them but I feel that both of them are better for slower rhythm tones rather than anything fast. The reason being that they both accentuate the pick attack so much you end up with too much atonal white noise rather than guitar tone.
This is reminding me that in the old days before there were so many easy ways to record or play quietly one of my set-ups was to use my HM-2 set up as an amp, but with an MXR Distortion+ in front of it as the actual distortion pedal and send that via RCA cables direct to a tape deck.
Cool to hear from another old schooler from the good old days of the Boss HM-2, interested to know how did you set the Level, EQ, & Gain levels on the HM-2 to use it as an amp?
@@georgesaris9968 I don't remember, but I used to write such things in my old notebooks now somewhere in my junkroom.
@@JoeCavanaugh Would be cool to see those settings for using the Boss HM-2 as an amp if you find the notes. For now you may find the following links of interest on the subject (using the HM-2 as an amp) ...
ruclips.net/video/0OWIinsMumo/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/koXuAYnOyXI/видео.html
@@NubsWithGuns I used to do a similar thing with a metal zone. Turn gain all the way down on the MZ and run a SD1 into it with gain on 9. Sometimes I would run a delay between them. Sounded pretty cool, gritty a bit lofi and lots of character.
23:29 Aww yeah, that's some serious Stoner growl there! Big thumbs up!
i want to get these pedals now. at the gates songs are a ton of fun to play but i dont really want to spend the money on the boss pedals. awesome video as always.
+1 on the death riffing.
Excellent reviews & demos!
I thought the HM300 sounded kind of awesome actually.
in a mix, yes
Agreed, pre ordered one of them
@@jamesdoctor8079 did you receive it? Looks like they’re still back ordered
Nice video bro. Very informative. My favorite Behringer pedal is their BDI21 Bass DI. Its a clone of the industry standard pedal by TECH21. I will rehouse it pretty soon to a metal enclosure, cause its 100% a keeper. Keep the nice videos coming, Cheers !
PS. your Death riffing is pretty solid.
I’ve owned several of this pedals for years. Never had any problem. They still work as new. Tried to switch a couple times to boss. But I always come back to this amazing German company.
Not meant to be demeaning, sounds pretty good thru my cell phone.
Are these pedals still decent platforms for modding pedals? I’ve thought about using a Behringer pedal to learn to start swapping capacitors and getting different sounds from different capacitors.
You should do the Johnson metalzone copy, the eq is different in a way I'm too dumb to explain, sounds like an extra high and low shelf making it tighter.
@33:13. Great point. I own the UM300. I would also suggest Behringer's NR300 Noise gate (Noise Reducer)
along with their UO300 Ultra Octaver pedal. Metal is my genre of music. Thank you for the upload ! 🎸 🤘
Also, I have absolutely gigged with my UM300. Had it for years. The black plastic on the actuator came off, and my TO800 no longer has a working battery so I have to use a power supply, but the damn things won't quit.
Hey Ryan, how does the M-Zone model on the AX8 compare to the "real" thing? Do the setting translate well?
Like basically all the drive pedals on the 2nd gen AXE products, the distortion characteristic is sonically identical, but the EQ controls aren't exact (though they are closer to the MT2 than most other pedals, but the center frequencies and bandwidth are a little off).
Hi! Do you want what pedal of behringer/boss the best for copy Iron Maiden tone? Thank you.
Actually built quality isn't THAT bad, well i mean it is indeed plastic, but iv'e been using one for quite a long time now and nothing's cracked or broken (yet). I kinda like the way they mostly look the same, and have a variety of vibrant colors, it looks consistent and aesthetic to me. But yeah, i have my opinion and you have your own :)
Good video man, cheers
Yes the rumour that they were weak was started by somebody's guessing
With the settings you use on the UM300, if you plug that into the clean channel of an amp with the gain cranked, or if you use something like an ART tube preamp as a "DI" and throw a TPA-1 and IR on it, it sounds pretty good.
I have Behringer X2222 USB MIXING DECK had it for years, and it still is great, so I'm buying the ultra metal pedal, i youse my hand to youse the pedal. Found your video very
interesting, so thank you. Just starting to learn guitar, so this pedal is for me. Thank you for a great video, I will subscribe.
I own a bunch of behringer pedals, endless hours of fun! I have lots of other pedals by other, more loved companies but these are just fun, and you can use them for recording purposes all day! Great video, I wish people would get off their high horses and just buy them, I did!
Especially now because they're only 19.99!
Having owned both a legit Boss HM2 and now a Behringer HM300, I will say it sounds the same. At the price point for the Behringer, even if there is a slight difference, I at least did not have to shell out a bunch of money. The quality is not a big issue unless you are a neanderthal with how you interact with a pedal. I play in a slimey crust punk band and am not known for taking real good care of my gear and mine is holding up fine.
Side note, most Boss HM2 pedals do not even sound the same compared to one another. Tolerances when in production were lax and so sound quality varies even from the same production years. Same thing with Russian Big Muffs, which is hilarious when talking to gear snobs who think they are the holy grail.
More shit to read: the real secret with the Metal Zone is to nuke the highs and use the mid/freq knobs as your high control instead and the secret to the HM2 is you HAVE to put it into a dirty amp, never a clean, otherwise it is useless, especially for the Swedish tone.
ola disagrees. i do too. hm2 into clean
@@clicheguevara9917 I mean, if you want to not get the real chainsaw, fine, I guess.
@@clicheguevara9917 I run it into my "Clean" channel, but add some gain... like a warm "dirty blues" tone. Then switch on the HM-2 and BOOM! Sinners Bleed.
I seem to recall always having heard that on Entombed's early recordings they ran the HM-2 into the clean channel of Peavey Bandit/Studio Pro amps. Regardless though, I have heard the same tone achieved in an amp's distortion channel.
@@georgesaris9968 From my reading Entombed did LHP with a HM2 in a Peavey Bandit dirty channel for the left and right guitars and a dimed DS1 into the Bandit (dirt channel) for an additional center guitar track.
It is true you can get pretty close to the real chainsaw sound with the HM2 into a clean channel, but in my experience, it is just not quite the same as going into the dirty (not heavily distorted) channel.
31:00 Immortal? I wasn't expecting that haha :D Your choice of riffs is refreshing really
ChaosPotato caught me off guard too
i thought no one noticed but me...sick shit
Immortal used the metalzone. The tone is quite obvious on Damned in Black and Sons in Northern Darkness.
I have several plastic pedals (an old Ibanez Sound Tank, Arion phaser, and a Behringer Super Fuzz). Been gigging with them for years. They don’t break.
I've been using the SF300,for a while and I must admit it sounds awesome..
Really great video. Thank you :)
you played death later in the vid, which pedal should I get in order to get that death tone?
regardless of the price point you still made these sound good, did you use the effects loop of your amp? I have an orange pedal baby and I really like how all my pedals sound now. Put in a few cap impulse responses , choose the right impulse mics and it sounds good.
If I kept watching later I would have answered my own question . Still cool video! Pedal videos always fun.
Excellent video. I always wondered about the clones being more of a one chainsaw trick pony. I always appreciate the wave curves and a very literate host.
I think, like Amazon basics pedals, some of the Behringer have their place and I would use "the right one" on my board even if I re-house them. After watching the video I'm not sold on their hm2 clone...to your credit. There is something about an HM2 and yes... not when it's just chainsaw dimed out. It is unique.
I agree the Ultra Metal version has more of the dirt that I like. I thought they captured the Metal Zone's character and utility in the Behringer version. I got my Boss Modded Metal Zone from eBay for $100 so it's not like used the boss Metal Zone are ridiculously priced.
Looks like I'm waiting on boss hm2 waza reissue coming in 2021...lol.
Cheers from a... doomed metal city...
Detroit.
B
I need tips about buying studio monitors to use with axe fx 3 or plugins for guitars, untreated room at the moment but i will do it eventually. Yamaha HS8 VS Adams VS Kali ? I think a video abour monitors would help many people ^^ Great channel, thank for all the help you provide us
do these pedals work with basses aswell (i play bass and need a pedal)
Thank you.. this is really helpful
i NEED to know what is that riff at 0:56 PLEASE🙇♀️
I had both and sold them only to think I'll probably rebuy them later. The HM300 seems to like a treble booster in front of it for a slightly higher gain 70's heavy sound and I really enjoyed cranking the mids on the UM300 with the freq at about 10-11 o'clock sound because it sounded very grindy (treble was around 1 o'clock and bass was at 3 o'clock).
I don't think anyone used them in the effects loop do they??
Hello what would the best setting be fore blackmetal thanks
Maybe I'm just stupid, but I can't hear much of a difference between these and a fuzz style pedal. Can somebody tell me the difference and what to listen for?
What’s the difference between Behringer’s UM300, HM300, XD300, and HD300?
Which one of these is better for rock , anyone know ?
I got a HM300 and also the Super Fuzz clone. Love this video. Debating getting the other, but I just don't know yet. Do you think the UM300 is worth the money?
It's 20 bucks. That's like two lunches
Yes it is worth it.I liked mine so much that I bought another one.It kicks some butt.✌
ALL THE GAIN!!! METAL!!!
Wait, wrong channel.
ALL THE GAIN
NO MIDS
SLAYER!!!!
All the gain
Don't be scared
Scoop out the mids
Or won't be haired.
SABBATH!!!! ...Wait, wrong decade.
straight in front of the 'amp'?
Yo Ryan, want to demo a Mesa V1 Bottle Rocket? I can send it up your way this week. Keep up the awesome work man. Sick riff selection as always (Death riffs always bring a smile!)
I Subscribed because this is the way these things should be done it all makes real good sense…thank you for the video
Awesome 👊
Dude! You just played Death, then went into Immortal, while wearing an Iron Maiden shirt! I smashed Like and Subscribe so fast that it could crack the ice on the lakes of Blashyrkh!
Edit: Pedals ordered! I'll be checking out more of your channel now.
i have my to800 for almost three years now, and it’s very sturdy
I afraid that those will be living longer than we will...
They are great for the always on scenario. I have so Behringer stuff in my chain. :)
Great demo.....though never liked the hm pedal because of it’s fuzz like nature and could never get a decent guitar solo tone on its own, but throwing an sd1 before it actually made it sound decent, where as the metal zone, when used correctly is actually a great pedal, I have 3 modded ones and they are amazing and crunchy and crisp, not fizzy or fuzzy ....I m curious to see what the treble booster would do to the hm pedal
Thanks a lot, I got myself an um300 and I liked, bad ass for that price
Is that a Ragdoll riff I heard in there?
own both now.
That'd be cool to see a vid on some of the other behringer stuff too 😀 particularly reverb, delay and time based effects. They Actually have a multi fx pedal that seems to be pretty cool. I believe its in the 50 dollar ballpark but alot of bang for buck if they (the fx)actually sound decent. Have a good one!
The Behringer Digital Multi fx600😈
I laugh when I think you won’t find these in the Guitar center store as they might hurt sales of more expensive items in the store. I have the TO800 and don’t see needing a real TS any time soon. The flip side is that they might sell more tube amps if people new what they sounded like by adding a $23 TO808.
Speaking of Behringer, have you seen The Wing?? My goodness its a sexy piece of gear. Looks to be the new replacement for the legendary X32.
I've had mine for 15 years now.
I usually would take a Behringer over a Boss simply because the cost is worth is vs. the sound difference. My one big exception is the TR-2 Tremolo vs the UT300.
Try out Metallica's MOP / AJFA / black with the UM300! As you said the mids scooped with the sweep around halfway gets kinda Mesa Mark Series sounding. I'm gonna get back the one i sold couple years ago, i love the 80's 'Tallica tone they get! Greetings from mexico man.
For the HM-2/HM300 I think the point was to capture the sound of early Heavy Metal bands like Black Sabbath (hence the fuzz sounding aesthetic).
so I definitely agree with your point.
Also, loving the Gojira riff at around 25 minutes
How hard are people stomping on the Bahringer pedals to be put off about them breaking? It's plastic. Hard plastic. Pretty tough
i have the tuner pedal... its lasted a few months so far with no issues
i believe pedal circuits are not protected by copyright, period. could be wrong, + the case/look IS protected. but i dont know that they even need to change any components.
It would be cool if you made a full AJFA song cover with the UM300. Treble and Bass past noon, gain pretty much maxed out, and the mid sweep between 3-5 pretty much totally scooped, makes a great budget thrash metal sound. Greetings mate cheers lml
Another cool one would be to see your take on the Boss FZ-2 vs. Behringer SF-300. I have had an FZ-2 since about 2006 when I first started because a friend didn't like how it sounded at all, but I loved it! Now a days the FZ-2 can be crazy expensive, people have even been buying the SF-300 so much that people resell them for up to 3 times the cost of one new due to their rarity even. Yeah an in production Behringer pedal being upcharged I'm not joking. At any rate to my understanding it was used one Electric Wizard's Dopethrone album and is a huge stoner doom pedal. 3 modes all really usable in my opinion, each have their own strengths / weaknesses though.
I have an sf300 and paid 50 cdn for it plus shipping. It was used but in perfect condition. I have a couple different boutique fuzz pedals and the sf300 sounds amazing. I have never played a boss hyepr fuzz so I don't know how it compares, but it's a deadly pedal on it's own.
Although I haven't gigged in years, I still find myself being a bit of a brand snob. BUT........ when I ran the UM300 between my fancy-pants Les Paul and my fancy-pants Vox AC30, it sounded pretty OK. Mostly.
I actually spent more money on strings and beer this weekend than I did this pedal. Good review, too.
Thanks.
Imagine how great it would sound wearing Fancy Pants too!
@@squirelova1815 Fancy-Pants and a poofy shirt!
@@Zoso981 Yes! With lip gloss too.
You should compare the Behringer SF300 to the Boss FZ-2 if you can find one that isn't expensive haha, I own them both and I would love to see a more in-depth analysis of them
bang on as Stated by jhs pedals
@@clicheguevara9917 I own them and I can tell you for a fact they are not bang on identical, there's a difference in both feel and sound
@@Slamthulhu this
Does it Doom has a good side by side, if you haven't seen it yet.
well i've been use top market distortion pedals like Metalzone, Metalmuff, MXR Fullbore and this Ultra Metal...
to me the sound and tone of these pedals is ok only people stigmatize on its plastic housing material...
I am not a metal player but the UM300 is a permanent fixture on my board. I use it as the my ultra high gain pedal alongside a DS2 and BD2. I love the tone BUT, I have found when my Katana 50 is at giggable levels (25w or 50w) I have to have a noisegate pedal on if using the UM300.
The HM300 sounds like a fuzz pedal to me.
Into the effects return sounds better than through the loop. Going through still uses the amps preamp tubes
i've used the UM300 for over 10 years and played many gigs with it, just last week the stomp pedal broke down r.i.p. anyway, thanks for the video i kinda wanna try the HM300 now
I dont mind the plastic because that pink pedals tone is so good I wouldn't be turning it off
God damn, how well does that HM300 chug??? (approx. 1.20 to 1.45 in the video) ... That is the exact type of chugging death/thrash metal tone I aim for with my original HM-2's beside the common all dials maxed Swedish death metal tone, but I can usually only get my HM-2's to chug that well with a Tube Screamer boost (depends on the amp) ... That HM300's chugs sound even better than the UM300!!! The trick is surely to roll back its Mid dial. I will have to get an HM300 now if it chugs that well, just need to do something about that horrible exterior.
Black spray paint lol
I've been using um300 for 10 years
@29:25 Is the best sound made from these pedals in the video... in my honest opinion. Nice and tight.
Of course, he's playing Death riffs🤘
What specifically is the problem with the build quality of these pedals? I see lots of vague claims but no specifics. The plastic cases seem very sturdy. The door handles of my cars have been plastic for years and they get abused daily, but I've never broken one. Has anyone ever seen these pedals fail, and if so what are the main points of failure?
im guessing its more a perception. theres comments here saying they are sturdy enough. other plastic pedals, Ibanez sound tank etc, dont last. ihavent had Behringer pedals but my main concern would be tone suck. im seeing a few comments about that.
As I posted to another comment here, there's supposed to be a youtube video of the HM300 being tested to see how strong it's housing is, and it got thrown down stairs, stomped on, etc, and it held up & did not break. I've tried finding this video, no luck yet, but it gives you an idea.
Like many other people, I bought a sf300 because I bought i for 50 cnd and that's waaay cheaper than trying to buy a bozz hyper fuzz. I have a bunch of different boutique fuzz pedals that are awesome, even a hyperfuzz clone by lone wolf audio, and they all sound amazing in their own way, but the sf300 still sounds massive and brutal. It's chap sure, but it's a great way for many people to sound like their favourite doom band. I don't play in a band or live so the sf300 is perfect. I would even like to put it in a custom made enclosure, just for fun, but I have no idea to do that and have no soldering skills what so ever lol
I have a behringer overdrive, sounds great but It's a weak plastic construction, only to use at home, take care when you push it
27:49 10,000 years damn
I have the UM300 And I like It. Lots of Gain
The topology of the most Behringer effects are exacly the same as Boss, Ibanez, etc expensive pedals Sound is the same too.
Very good knowledge of the Behringer story.
I never smash a Behringer stomp box and i don't know someone who smash it.
This does not mean that they are sttable like the metal ones, but you must be very stoned and in the dark stage to break one, thought it may be still plable but with a crack.
In any case they are useful, even to try a effect or for back up, or for "missions impossible "
Just thing that sometimes you pay 25 dollars agains 1, 2 3 or 4 hundreds dollars to own it!
Most everything sounded good. Just needs a well defined bass in the mix.
I use a few Beringer pedals in my arsenal.
My case is alot lighter due to the lightweight of these.
Which behringer to buy if i want to sound close to Metallica?
maybe the multi FX pedal has a stoner preset that you could try
it's easy to chug with and for 20 bucks if you don't like that sound you can use it as a pitch shifter instead.
I have a Behringer noise gate. It's an okay pedal, it does the job, but the build quality isn't the best. I have it always on 80-90% of the time, so I wouldn't have to worry as much about breaking the pedal with stomping on it too hard. If I had the money I'd definitely upgrade to a Boss noise gate, but for the money the Behringer is an okay pedal and gets the job done.
I just ordered a whole pedal board worth of Behringers. 10 pedals for the price of 1 OD pedal from my main rig
Lol that's what I'm doing now but don't want two metal pedals. I think I'll get the um300