@@byrons1339WAS. WAS disgusting. Get Oprah, the Obamas, M Freeman, Knowles, Sam L Jackson, D. Washington to share out the shed loads of dosh. You shouldn't be giving them shit reparations!
I used to dodge school and spent most of my time in the library and read all sorts of history books.Quite clever cause what truant officers are going to search there.
The last couple years I've taken a liking to studying history and the biggest eye opener was how ruthless it was for everyone. Nobody was exempt. But with little pockets of genuine humanity and kindness demonstrated by all races.
I got into history about 20 years ago. I'm an obsessive now. It makes you less surprised by things. E.g : there's a pandemic! Aaaaagh! As if it hadn't happened hundreds of times before.
I would not make the focus of the humanity and kindess demonstrated to be "race" and instead to across from different cultures, as that is a far more differentiating concept that just ethnicity.
"No arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short." So said Thomas Hobbes in his Leviathan.
@@charlytaylor1748 Ethnicity was indicative of different cultures back in this earlier history. There is a narrative often pushed today that race was the primary dividing factor amongst peoples, where it was instead culture, and ethnicity was simply a signal of said culture.
The fact that we need to explain these facts to people today, young and old alike, tells you everything you need to know about the state of modern education. This was all well known fact as recently as the 1970s when I was growing up in America. When we lose our knowledge of history we are doomed to repeat its mistakes. It's sad how ignorant the public has become in just a few short decades.
Which makes the point about how bad the American education system has become. A strong public education system is crucial for a democracy to function properly, and that's a big part of why the American political system is failing so badly recently.
Our education system is basically an indoctrination system. A large portion of the Black population are still slaves. They are provided food and lodging. The greatest difference is the amount of labor required. They are only required to "work" on election day to keep their "masters" in the Democrat Party in power. In a sense all taxpayers are also slaves providing the means that the "masters" need to keep their "slaves".
I am not sure everyone is as ignorant as you suggest, though I do agree educational standards in the US are deplorable...but even if they don't learn about slavery as this narrator explains it, most people have seen countless movies on TV or online, of ancient times and virtually every one of those movies have slaves in them...I think for most modern folk they are consumed with what slavery in America meant...and that is not entirely unwarranted if you are an American...
It's not just in America. Our woke universities in the UK are currently expending huge amounts of time and effort trying to cancel the historical events that make the snowflakes cry!
It’s extremely sad when you now have the power of knowledge for anything in the palm of your hand. Slavery mainly affected the weak and the poor, not an ethnic group. No one was exempt from possibly becoming a slave. If the Vikings conquered the English or Scott’s, noble or commoner would become slaves.
yes because they ended up perpetuatiing it & as a result massively benefitted from it. Thats why most of western europe is just significantly richer than eastern europe cuz most of the western european countries had slaves from its empires.
@@xchen3079 you do realize that the only reason why they ended it was because of the rivalry between different aristocracies or ruling powers and on top of that, they were in a position where they could afford to abolish slavery, cuz they had already benefited ridiculously by that point.
From UK, thank you for informing us all that Denmark abolished Slavery 3 years before Great Britain, but ONLY within their tiny country, but that the British Empire FORCED the Abolition of Slavery on every other Country outside of the British Empire as well as within.
We were also trying to keep Europe free from enslavement by Napoleon so we had our hands full and our coffers empty. In fact we had to fight Denmark as well as we were concerned that Napoleon would get his hands on their fleet.
On 27 January 1416 the Dubrovnik Republic abolished slave trading and became one of the first in Europe to do so… The decision to abolish slave trading was found in Dubrovnik's old statutes. On August 1, 1834, Britain passed the Slavery Abolition Act, outlawing the owning, buying, and selling of humans as property throughout its colonies around the world. 400 years after dubrovnik
I always have to roll my eyes whenever I hear idiots complain and bitch about slavery/racism. because it is extremely bias and always try making white people/Europeans feel guilty and ashamed for who we are. as if white people wer enot enslaved by Turks, Mongols, Arabs and I could even say Persians in the Ancient period. my country of Romania was colonized and ruled by Turks for hundred of years.
@whitman maleman I would say that reading that comment and immediately thinking "jews" is a bit antisemitic. Profiting off of victimhood is nigh universal amongst all peoples who feel they've had it rough throughout history.
What surprises me is that so many people seem to totally ignore slavery has always been a part of history, all over the world and affected all kind of people...
@@saregama-r8td slavery was everywhere. Several Native American cultures were sacrificing thousands of slaves to their gods each year. The people obsessed with the west are just looking for some reason to beg for money or pity
On the west coast of what is now Canada, different indigenous tribal raiding parties from ancient times had conducted brutal raids on weaker tribes literally slaughtering everyone in their path. Except for women and girls which were carried off as slaves. Acquiring female slaves was undoubtedly the prime motivation for the 'warriors' to conduct these raids. What else of value did these poorer tribes possess? But then in the 1860's the first prime minister of Canada, John A. Macdonald, put an end to this barbaric scene. This is the same JA Macdonald that the modern howling idiots are removing his statue which, of course, seems to be just fine with the MSM who never mention he is the one that ended 'first nations' slavery.
Good ol' John A. also advocated withholding food from the Indigenous peoples of the plains, who were already starving due to the annihilation of the buffalo herds by (mostly American) hunters, in order to get them out of the way of his railroad project. He set up the national residential school system, and he executed First Nations and Metis leaders of the northwest rebellion. The railroad united us and made Canada possible as a nation. I'm very happy to be Canadian! I believe in learning from history and don't see much point in toppling statues. Nor do I think we should lionize our PMs like the Americans do their presidents. History is one very complex and tangled web!
@@CatrionaRuadh Yes, the same residential school system that indigenous leaders pleaded the government to create so their children could have the same opportunities as non-indigenous children. Residential schools are another example of history cherry picked in order to create clear distinctions between 'victims' and 'victimizers.' The truth is far more nuanced than the biased 'findings' foisted on Canadians today.
A small point, but last week I watched a BBC prog about Art. For some reason, slavery made its way into the programme....some connection between the Gallery's long long dead owners are slavery. The gallery's Administrator commented about the slaves that "THE BRITISH CAPTURED". Oh dear. No, Slaves from West Africa were NOT "captured" by the british----they were SOLD to the British by Africans themselves who had been trading their own people for many decades before the British got there.
Likewise. I started to watch a BBC programme about a National Trust property. The black female presenter then started to tell us about a painting from the house that was to be cleaned. She was very keen to point out the little black boy in the picture dressed in some very fine clothes who was clearly a slave. I don't know what happened after that.
@@Simonsimon-fy3hq Oddly enough, even if said boy was a 'slave', his lifestyle would've been far better than his relatives back in Africa . Oh the irony ! At least he wasn't in chains, eh !?
Indoctrination? There were school books in the 1970s that showed British sea men with nets capturing Africans. This was literally what the Barbary pirates did to white Europeans.
Wrong - it wasn't decades, it was hundreds of years. The Mudslim colonisation of Africa started in the 7th century - the ports and markets were built soon after.
History has always been incredibly brutal. People seem to forget that the rules were "anything goes" for most of history. If France or Spain could have conquered and enslaved Britain, they would have...and vice versa. Life wasn't cosy and cuddly. Most people were illiterate, might made right, people died at a very young age. It was horrible. It's impossible to just impose today's moral righteousness on such a time, when we have so much more education and less hardship now.
The world is brutal now. Isis had sex slave markets. In Lybia they now have slave markets for Christian and none Muslim people. If folk are hung up on slavery they need to sort out slavery now not in the past.
@@michaeldoolan7595 So true. So much suffering in the world right now and so little is done about it. Too much pontificating about things that already happened.
The people died young myth comes from misunderstanding of average life expectancy. Many people died at childbirth, or as an infant. Also lots of epidemics. Both of which drag the average down a lot. Barring those two, many people lived close to the same age as in current day. They didn't have modern medicine, but they also weren't overweight, didn't eat processed crap and lot's of unhealthy chemicals, got a lot of sun and did mostly physical labor.
Good for you, though. Personally, the cost of lost relationships / friendships has been worth it rather than being under their Boot of Mind Control and Groupthink Brainwashing. Continue to stand for Truth.
Freed Slaves did have Slaves, they enslaved their friends and family. So much so the local governments started passing anti-manumission laws. They were the Slave owners who did not run death plantations.
Indeed, the amazing part about the story of slavery is that modern, compassionate, rational thinkers finally decided to ban something horrible that had been going on since "the dawn of time." Well done, humanity.
What about all those historical abolitions (Cyrus the Great, Ashohka, Hideyoshi, Hongwu emperor, etc...) of slavery. Hunter-gatherers also didn't have slaves. Confucius also used the logic of reciprocity or the golden/silver rule to argue against slavery. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_abolition_of_slavery_and_serfdom
There is a big difference between enslaving people because they lost a war or can't pay a debt, and enslaving people because they were considered animals.
You still don't "get it" about the distant past. For many slaves, slavery was bad, but preferable to the alternative, which was of course death. Millions of people throughout the world have simply been killed out of hand so that the conquerors could take their land and move their OWN peasant class in to farm it or to hunt the game (animals) there. Foreigners were just vermin. The mere concept of racism is a very modern one. "The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there."
@@AlexRodriguez-gb9ez You are so stupid that it makes me sick :). Learn to count, idiot! All these abolitions of slavery that you write about collapsed very quickly. As soon as the power that enforced them fell, the decrees abolishing slavery fell. They quickly returned to the past and it was even worse than before the laws you mentioned were introduced. Next: calculate how long the laws you are writing about were in force and compare them to the contemporary situation. Today the same thing will happen as then! As soon as the forces that forced the abolition of slavery collapse or weaken, it will be reintroduced! The Middle East, India, Africa, China - they will take care of it! There's too much money to be made on this for anyone to forget about it! The changes introduced by: Cyrus the Great, Ashohka, Hideyoshi, Emperor Hongwu, etc. turned out to be completely irrelevant in the long run. Hunters and gatherers did not have slaves for one reason only: it would be impossible to keep an eye on them if they were constantly on the move. You would need to have 3x as many guards as slaves. But you are too stupid to notice such things, because if you weren't too stupid, there would be no need to write about it to you! And let it dawn on you that almost 200 years without slavery in the Western World today is like 2000 years in the times of Cyrus the Great, Ashohka, Hideyoshi, Emperor Hongwu (you know that Akhenaten, who introduced monotheism in Egypt, was probably overthrown not for this reason at all only but also because he wanted to abolish slavery?) due to the pace of civilization changes. Therefore, it can be concluded that the changes introduced by the rulers you mentioned were completely irrelevant! Because they were the blink of an eye and not any real and lasting change. P.S.: And that's why I hate Wikipedia because it is created by the same stupid, left-wing and ignorant people like you :P.
Thanks Me. I'll use that one. If anyone asks who the quote is from I can simply and honestly say "Me". As an aside, you can change the word 'offended' to similar ones like miserable or victims etc..
What’s galling is that modern western societies are having to deal with this accusation of guilt by association when these very societies have shown the greatest moral progress in history. And at the same time slavery and crimes against humanity occurring outside the western hemisphere are simply overlooked. A true activist would try to stop current abuse but that’s hard. Much easier to prosecute history on sympathetic people.
Yes, the "greatest moral progress in history". Especially in the southern States where, once slavery was abolished, everyone embraced their former chattel as brothers and sisters, living in harmony and mutual respect, from that day forward.
@@slangster233it's never good enough is it? If you think it's so bad, why are you still here? Why don't you go somewhere where you are treated with the respect you deserve. It's a big world, no one's holding you back
The exceptional fact about slavery is not that it existed since humans started forming tribes but that Britain abolished it at the height of its colonial power. Makes you proud to be British 👏🇬🇧
Britain only renounced it after they lost the colonies and thus lost the profit from slavery. The Northern states (state meant country back then) abolished it before Britain. Britain and Spain brought it to the Americas. We had to eradicate the last vestige of British slavery while it was still profitable. Also Thomas Jefferson abolished the Atlantic slave trade while Britain was still running slave ships. I used to speak up for Britain until I heard them blame my country for slavery. Don't open pandoras box if you don't want the truth.
That sounds like an excuse to me. Everyone was buying and selling human beings, so the slave owning Americans were just doing what everyone else was doing. The thing is, without the Civil War, they would have still wanted that slavery to continue.
Ignoring the fact that Britain profited hugely off the abolition of slavery as a well placed naval power transitioning from mercantilism towards free trade
...I'm not so proud that as a nation we decided to compensate slave owners for loss of income, borrowed massively to do this, and only finished paying off the debt in 2015.
I sat through a meeting where we were told that we can pinpoint the beginning of racism to when the Portuguese started exporting African slaves. As a historian, I nearly shat myself out of sheer shock at the stupidity.
@@tessmoore3762 So typical. Rather than discuss the issues like someone interested in history, all you have is a personal insult. That not only speaks to your character but the fact that you are afraid to discuss the issues in an open forum because you know that your hate-America narrative does not bear up to actual debate and historical fact. I suggest you go to the southern border to see how people of ALL ETHNICITUES feel about America. You might also want to hear about what Britney Griner has to say about America now.
@@dennisweidner288--You mean this: June 27, 2023, "Brittney Griner calls airport harassment incident[by RUclipsr Alex Stein] 'rock bottom' for WNBA", for not allowing players to fly on private jets more than twice per season. Brittney Whiner is back to her/him old self.
@@dennisweidner288--"race was not a major factor in slavery" ...Tell that to the White women(and men) taken in the Mediterranean by the N. African Muslims(the slave traders in Africa for centuries) Barbary Coast Pirates to sell to the Middle(Ottoman Turks) & Far East, at a rate of 3X as many as Blacks sent to N America. Reparations? No, they're All dead. In historical Fact, there were more Irish slaves in the New World than Blacks(Henry Gates Jr.--388,000 total Blacks vs over a Million Irish). But the North wrote the history, so the Irish, Chinese, Japanese, and India were called "indentured servants", who were allowed to buy their freedom, just like Blacks. "Between 1830 and 1920, about 1.5 million indentured laborers were recruited from India, one million from Japan, and half a million from China." Note is says 1920, NOT 1808(outlawed the importation of Blacks as slaves) or 1863-1867(Emancipation and 13th,14th, & 15th Amend, which didn't apply to the others). The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882(no xenophobia there, right?) wasn't overturned until 1943. Slavery is STILL happening in Africa TODAY(Boko Haram).
@@garyphisher7375 Why 'whites should have know better'? Shouldn't that be 'people should have known better'? I think so, ergo we should ALL be entitled to 'reparations'. Better to spend the money on righting PRESENT wrongs?
@@thesmallnotesduo Why should people know better? The prophets of Jwse owned and traded salves - the Prophet of his lamb owned and traded salves (he even owned s*x salves) - Paul the Apostle said that salves should obey their masters. Salvery was older than the Torah, the Bible, and the Quran. It was widespread around the planet. To say whites owe reparations, is putting us higher than their Gods - incredibly flattering.
Often overlooked, the Northern states in the US enacted the first laws to abolish slavery by 1799 and establish themselves as Free States. Pennsylvania was the first state to pass a law aimed at ending slavery in 1780.
Hi Dave The northern states were first to enact anti slavery laws but they basically activated slavery again after the war. Lincoln had planned to send blacks back to Africa after the war. We even bought a small country for them. They shot Lincoln and kept the black peoples to work in their factories in the north for almost nothing. Many had been better cared for as slaves in the south.
And you probably were not told that your ancestors had been enslaved by the people now seeking to demonize you. Makes it obvious that anyone saying you have a month for your history is lying.
Unfortunately, when faced with just one of the slavery OBSESSED zealots who regularly appear on GBNews, Talk TV etc, (and we know who they are), this guy would be shouted down, called a liar and all of his arguments refuted or denied in a tirade of shouting, screaming and denial.........he certainly wouldn't be discussing it quietly over a cup of tea whilst being listened to intently. Those people listen to NOTHING ELSE but their own views and refuse to let anyone contradict them!
Please show some regard for all those imported Africans and Asians who would not have been imported into the UK if colonisation hadn't happened. Slavery worked out well for them. Free education, medical needs, welfare and benefits? I 'm sure they count their blessings every single day.
If you wanna see their heads explode tell them that banning slavery was a Christian principle. They LOVE talking about how technically the old law allowed it, and some of the plantation owners claimed to be Christians. but the first book calling for the abolition of slavery in the US was published by the Quakers. those guys were, even by modern standards, zealots. Yes, Quaker Oats is named after them. it's a brand-name literally centuries old. The Quaker sect were back before the Revolutionary War a rather large and influential producer of grain.... and one of their beliefs as a Christian sect, is that there was no moral ground for having slaves. And thus they published a book about it.
It's because they suffer from psychosis and are incapable of thinking rationally so all they can do is scream. Unfortunately it makes most decent humans afraid when they encounter this behavior and they resign and just decide to go somewhere else and enjoy life however they can.
Indeed, that kind of over sensitive mob mentality has become the norm in almost all talk shows, even the ones that used to boast a serious reputation. Silencing whomever isn’t touting the officially sanctioned brand of disinformation has turned into a blood sport of sorts, for the gatekeepers of postmodern truth can’t suffer any heretics to try and open the eyes and minds of their docile flock. Utterly abhorrent behaviour to anyone genuinely thirsting for knowledge and wisdom.
This is not hidden knowledge. Purchasing slaves was as common as buying home appliances now. The thing we should linger on is how we actually got past it. It's a great accomplishment really.
@@alisonhunt9459 I dont think I agree with you here. The two do not need to be mutually exclusive. Slavery today has far less transparency than in the past so one of the few ways for us to connect to this despicable act is by seeing it effects on people and culture from our past.
Dear British people, you do realize that even if some high aristocrats or merchants were involved in the slave trade, then most of yours great great grandparents were most likely peasents who even if not called slaves were in pretty similar situation. You didnt own anything, you could "rent" your little farm from aritocrats and give most of your earnings to them and kingdom or later years escape to the city where you did horrific manual labor and rented a room by day if you managed to earn enough money for that day. And it was common and the sign of its time but still people who had nothing to do with it are dragged into as well.
Dear British people? Dont think that situation was much different from anywhere else at that time in Europe and Asia. Most British people have a good knowledge of history if compared to America because they are surrounded by it. I was personally taught this in history at school.
You will need to wind the clock back significantly more than great great grand parents to encounter the feudal serfs that you describe. I'm guessing that you are from the USA so the chances are that these very very long dead peasants night be your descendants as well. The situation you mention with manorial lords and land bonded peasants was the situation in the 12th Century, with the beginning of the end for serfdom in the 14th century with the peasants revolt. It was all ended officially in Britain in the late 15th century by Elizabeth I. Remember this was 200-300 years before the Pilgrim fathers set foot on North America and over 500 years before emancipation reform in Imperial Russia. Medieval history is taught in all British schools so we are all well aware of the plight of the poor old medieval serfs and the fuse lit by Wat Tyler in 1341. But what I'm not grasping is the point you are trying to make with this open letter specifically to the British. Why do we need the special treatment?
@@Lexicondiablo - It’s pretty obvious what he’s saying. The accusations are primarily made against the British, but it wasn’t the British as a whole, it was a tiny number of wealthy merchants and investors. The vast bulk of the population were too busy struggling to stay alive and played no part, and therefore bear no inherited guilt.
@@MXB2001 Don't forget about English introducing cuddly rabbits, foxes, cute cats and many other none native animals to Australia and eradicating over 20 indigenous species. All in the name of fun. Brits are great people.
The British abolished slavery only after they had lost their American colonies, and enforced the end of slavery in other countries for the same reason as the North in the American Civil War - so they wouldn't be at an economic disadvantage.
@@sussexboy100 It is estimated that up to 20% of the population of Mauritania are still in some form of bondage, but of course no one wants to address that issue, it's all whiteys fault.
It's fair to say that slavery had pretty much died out in Europe by the time contact with Africa was made. It was THAT contact which re-ignited the trade. It's a valid argument that it was the Africans who corrupted the Europeans, not the other way around.
The Mediterranean slave trade never abated. After the Romans lost control, it continued under the Germans and then under the Muslims. The Arab and the Turks were slave empires. and with no more prohibition on it continued the practice until after the British came to dominate the region. Jefferson sent a naval force to the Med to free Americans enslaved by the Moors. As many black African went to the Middle East as went to the Americas.
@@bekkouriarts1634 Exploit their resources - so why have they never expolited it for themselves? You are aware (yes I know you're not) that the Europeans lost money colonising Africa. There are many Parliamentary debates, in Britain and in Germany, where the Politicians argue about whether to leave Africa - because it was costing them a fortune, and there were no clear benefits. It was the Africans themselves that begged Europeans to stay - they wanted to learn from the Europeans - we were "forced" to leave by the U.N. after WWII. And I bet you didn't know that we were invited into Africa. Without that invitation, we would've stood no chance against the African warriors. And the reason they invited us in - because of the Arab/Muslim colonisers - who had been conquering Africa since the 8th century - taking over 10 million Africans as slaves. Go and find out what they did to those slaves - you'll find out why there are no "black communities" in Arabia. I bet you are also unaware of the Islamic colonisation of Europe - the reason European powers were needed. The Europeans, especially the British, are the heroes - stop listening to the Marxist rewriting of history, and go and read some books!
@@bekkouriarts1634 The point flew over your small head. The Africans were the ones who took and sold the slaves, offering them to the Europeans. Without that there would be no transatlantic slave trade.
Slavery has existed in China longer than the 5000 years of culture itself. If not for pressure from the West, I don't think it will momentary stop it. Yes, slavery still exist now in China and they pretty up the words as "Human's trafficking".
Slavery is often sold with West. But it was huge in the Middle east too. People often forget the "Golden Islamic period" was a time of rampant, brutal Slavery, sometimes even worse than the West.
European slavery was a thing long before the Portuguese in the 1400's. The Roman's enslaved Britain's and others within it's empire and after them came the Vikings that were also slavers. Prior to the Romans Iron Age people were into human sacrifice so I have no doubt that they also had slaves too. Much later we had serfs that were slaves in all but name and pressgangs taking men off the street. Then with war came abuses in Europe where people were forced to work for the Nazis and captured British and Allied troops were used as slave labour by the Japanese. But of course only black Africans are the victims of slavery and need reparations and special treatment.
Portuguese (and other Europeans) were being enslaved by moors before 1400 The barbary pirates used to raid attacks on coastal European shores to hijack people to either ask for a ransom or to sold them as slaves
As Nigel briefly pointed out Rome got Slaves from Western African tribes. As did Greece, Egypt and East Africa with Arab slave traders. Millions of them, some of them were castrated because Rome and Athens demanded that. It took ten slaves to get one that survived the castration
@@rlh5870 I can assure you the slaves they used in Britain were not African slaves, it was the indigenous population. North Africa was a part of the Roman empire too so taking slaves from there wasn't that big a distance and it was likely the indigenous people that rounded them up as they did for the Europeans a millennia later. The point I was making is that he stated that the first European slavers were the Portuguese from the 1400's. Not so, it was documented from Roman times in the UK and likely further back but undocumented. Eastern European Slavs get their name as these people were a source of slaves and also long before the 1400's.
AIB01 Slavery, New World. Edition. Talk to the vast majority of US citizens. The US was the largest receiver of Africa slaves. 12 million in total. But Brazil accounted for 42%, Mexico and Caribbean islands got more slaves, initially than US colonies 400-500 thousand. Henry Louis Gates stated that on his PBS show. But must people think we got Brazil type numbers
@@rlh5870 18 million were used by Arabs and their trade started long before the Europeans and ended long after it. Their treatment of slaves was far harsher too and they also hunted and enslaved Europeans including us Brits. Nobody is saying it was a good thing, but the popular narrative is that it was all about white Europeans enslaving black Africans a few centuries ago. It's not, it's mush older than that and we've all been victims of it at some time in our history.
Wait for a few years and a similar outcry will happen about ownership of pets and the use of animals as beasts of burden, let alone food. Millions of our descendants will be prosecuted for animal ownership, just wait and see.
@@Ray-wy4kq Simplicity Man's inhumanity to Man is reality and always has been and will be, Ask Hitler, Chairman Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot. They are all the same, indoctrinate your people to kill each other, or do other nasty deeds and they will gladly do it. Mob rule always tends to be cruel.
Actually everyone did not accept it. Many Americans were against Slavery if you're seeking honest conversation. There were Abolishionists who helped Slaves escape and hid them as they made their way North in America. Nigel is past full of shit.
Another fact of history, is while there were many instances of absolutely barbaric slavery, there were also instances where it functioned as a "privatized well-fare system" in the sense that if a person couldn't manage to survive by failing to feed or house themselves, they could sell themselves into slavery were the agreement essential stood as "I house you and feed you and in return you serve my estate."
@zeehero7280 Yup, that's 100% what I was thinking of. In the Torah/Pentateuch it lays the law of how a Jewish person could indenture themselves to a fellow Jew for 7 years at a time, or permanently (marked by a ear ring) if they believed they were unable ever provide for themself on their own.
The moment "reparations" comes into the conversation I always ask if they think slavery is racist. If they answer "yes" then I know they are not worth engaging with and should be completely ignored due to poor intellect/knowledge.
bro, chill the fuck out and have some perspective before treating people that way to begin with. Jesus fuckin Christ dude. Sounds like an excuse for you to trick people into saying an answer you don't like. The idea of slavery is not racist, but slavery in the u.s. LEAD to extreme racism down the line. Don't be dim
Might slavery be considered "racist" from an ethnicity perspective? One group enslaving another/other group? On the topic of a moral right to receiving "reparations," engaging in a discussion with proponents certainly "should be completely ignored due to poor intellect/knowledge."
@@richardwysocki8300 The vast majority of human history has been full of slavery and the vast majority of that was not enslaving other races or ethnicities. They enslaved those close to them. A minuscule minority of the history of slavery had anything to do with race/ethnicity.
Listening to some black activists, I sometimes get the impression that they consider past slavery a privilege. This seems the case, as they certainly make a cushy living from the grift.
Slavs were enslved for centuries in much greater numbers but you do not hear them complaining and wanting reparations. They were enslaved so much that name of ppl became synonim for slave.
They've made it "a privilege" -- to be unaccountable for their own actions (not all of them) -- appropriating the suffering of SOME of their ancestors - a shameless racket
Thomas Sowell has some excellent writing on the subject. He says that the US was only remarkable in that we were the only country that fought a war with ourselves to end it, and the UK was remarkable in that they arguably may have exhausted a good bit of the monetary strength of their Empire in trying to end it across the rest of the world where they had the power to try and do it. And still it persists to this day, and no one likes to acknowledge it. Instead we'd rather beat the blameless over a past they had no part of.
What about Slavic people somehow no one mentions. The word 'slave' itself comes from Slavs. I live in Western Europe and most of the people I spoke with (French, Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, British) never heard of Slavs as an ethnic group. Furthermore if you check the Wikipedia page 'slavery' Slavs are mentioned there extremely sporadically (maybe 3-4 times in the whole long article). The overwhelming focus is on African people. The role of Slavic people in Arabic/Islam Empire's slave trade is not spoken at all. There were serious numbers of slaves involved (millions of people were captured, enslaved, exported, castrated in early Middle-ages with destinations of North Africa, Spain, Middle East). Not a word about it. Even the etymology of the word 'slave' doesn't clearly specify, which ethnic group is the source of it. One can only wonder what's the reason for this silence. As multiple source material of Arabic origin hasn't been translated it's difficult for western historians to have access to it. Modern culture focuses on African people, which in my opinion distorts the history of slavery (I suppose it's used as a political tool especially in the USA, which is not representative of the whole world). Also Slavs were traditionally considered (from my personal experience still are considered) lower class people among Westerners. For instance if you look at modern Scandinavian historians they still try to avoid connecting Vikings with Slavic influence despite clear evidence.
That's because we still carry the stigma of being backwards and lesser than western Europeans. Even though our people invented most of the technology we enjoy today. Electric motor, remote control, radio, the pen, fingerprint ID parachute, ...the list goes on. Also, we would have to talk about our Turkish "freinds" and how they terrorized us until the end of WWI. The Muslims put millions of Slavs into slavey; alot ending up in North Africa and Turkey. Whatever...no one gives a rats ass.
I know why it's not mentioned. The colour of the Slavs - (and yes I knew about it.) Putting it on wikipedia that the Slavs WERE WHITE PEOPLE would derail the woke communities train of "it's just about us black people" - quite apart from the small but inconvenient truth that the romans traded WHITE SLAVES all the time.
For those reading French read famed historian Bernard Lugan recent book out in the last 3-4 years where he describes the 5 types of historical slavery that occurred. Lugan also was on lots of yt videos talking about slavery. The longest slavery was centuries-long by the moslems with Europeans slaves before the Pope got the Crusades thing going. They're still at it TODAY in some countries targeting Christians or other ethnic/religious groups like Isis did with the Yazidis.
The fact that moslems in what is known as Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan have 100% control of their female population that literally do not see the light of day (either by being forced to stay indoors or have their bodies completely covered while outside with a male chaperone) is absolute slavery. One never hears of American blacks discussing this. On the contrary, it seems to be quite trendy to adopt islamic names and renounce and denounce their birth religion of Christianity. Also, there is no uproar against the butchering of non-moslems throughout Africa.
@@halbleavy9900 As I wrote above there were/are 5 different slaveries. The one you're talking about is the only one and never are the other 4 discussed including the Europeans Whites which lasted way more centuries than your exemple. You also neglect to mention or maybe are unaware of who gave the idea first to the Europeans ??? They jumped on the bandwagon after beeing offered Black slaves while their ships were on Africa's coasts. I suggest you also take a look at explorer Livingstone's writings and drawings where he is utterly horrified by what's he's witnessing, Black on Black savagery. He was the first European to venture into the dark continent. The different tribes stuff is very much still in play today there. How about you start looking at Idi Amin life and works ? Don't stop with him as there's lots more of his type. IMore recently Rwanda, Nigeria, ETC..... Black on Black savagery. As the economy worlwide is slowing down/collapsing there will not be any more money going there. Expect much more savagery. Will you be writing about those ?
@@MarinaLaroche You are on point. Many blame the Portuguese for starting African slavery, but they forget that the Portuguese refused countless times to exchange the goods they owned for Africans who were slaves of African tribal chiefs. The other African try to lure the Portuguese to give them valuables good the Portuguese had, like weapons, swords and even musket. The Portuguese were merchants and when they arrived in Brazil they made many trades, the indigenous people of the Amazon exchanged the golden stones they picked up in the river for the utensils, clothes and weapons that the Portuguese had, In India (Goa) the Portuguese exchanged what they had for spices, in China (Macau) and Japan they exchanged it for silk, jade and rice, the problem with the Africans is that they had nothing of value (for the Portuguese made some trade), so the Africans did everything for the Portuguese to accept human beings ( slaves) as a trade, i never saw confirmation but it seems that Portugal sent a missive to the Pope asking if it was Christian to accept slaves as a bargaining chip and that the Pope replied in the affirmative.
this is why we need to stop regulating and taxing manufacturing out of America and into China. once we fix that we can cease trade with china entirely.
Historically, over millenia, slavery was globally widespread. It seems today, that most outraged on the subject matter have no concept of the history, apart from a narrow selective interpretation.
I come from a mixed heritage background, Scottish, Indian, English, Irish, Native American. Those are the links we know about so far. Since tracing our family tree I've become much more interested in history. It's great hearing all the different points of view surrounding various subjects, this being one of them. I'm completely hooked on the industrial revolution and how it came about and its effects on the world. It's truly astonishing how people /companies/governments can do such great things and/or such terrible things. What I find most shocking is that there are still approx 50 million slaves throughout the world. It seems like an impossible task to stamp it out.
I think that they might be inflating the # of slaves... Sort of like they inflate the #'s around "human trafficking" by including the people who hire "coyotes" to smuggle them into a country.
@@michaeldoolan7595 Well, not "anyone" can get behind stamping out modern slavery. The ones who would oppose it are the modern day slavers (including some governments).
I learnt about the slave trade in 2004 I think, and we never found out that Britain abolished the slave trade first. However we also didn't have any guilt, shame or blaming either.
I learnt about this at school in the 90s and the only thing we ever learnt about Britain's role was that Britain ended the slave trade. Almost nothing about its role in profiting from it for centuries.
@@jc9060 britain didn't profit from that slave trade. a handful of property owners benefited from that slave trade. question: if you had a choice.......... 1. your mother could live to be at least 60, and some of your belongings would go missing for this. and 2. your mother could be around probably no longer than 30 years (age 30), and none of your personal belongings would go missing. which would you choose (given that those few belongings that went missing, you didn't even know you had them, and had no use for them)?
This historian is such an amazingly valuable man in the factual understanding of slavery. We stopped it and continue to try to stop it in other countries. We give billions in aid to black nations. This is a brilliant interview.
Slavery continued for an awful long time under Christianity, the bible does not condemn slavery but rather preaches that slaves be obedient to their masters and that masters in turn treat their slaves humanely. It wasn't until the age of enlightenment that the philosophies of reason began to truly change attitudes. The Normans deserve a great deal of credit though. Around 10% of the English population were enslaved (thralls) during the Christian Anglo-Saxon period up until the Norman's invaded and abolished the practice. Always seemed weird to me that the prevailing narrative portrays the Anglo Saxons as tragic flaxen haired victims while the Normans are depicted as moustache twirling villains...
@@StuSaville Slavery persisted for such a long time because machines were not available to do certain jobs and slaves were cheap. A steam engine was invented by an Egyptian Greek in the 200's (?) BC, but not developed because slaves were readily available. Saxons wore moustaches and Norman's were clean shaven, even shaving the nape of the neck. Real buggers those Normans, besides slavery they did genocide too with their" harrying of the North".
@@Nyet-Zdyes Yes, the Borderers and if you want to know about them, read "The Steel Bonnets" or a history book about Flodden. Ah those were the days.... that make me glad I live in 2023.🙂
@@peterbarkworth951 I've read it. Some of my ancestors come from the area. I wish I'd known that, because when I visited the Newcastle-upon-Tyne area, because a few of them asked if I was related, and I just didn't know, yet.
The arab traders were still slightly active down the coast of East Africa, including Mozambique and Tanzania and into Malawi (then Nyasaland), until the end of the first world war. The pioneers sent by Rhodes to Zimbabwe and Zambia witnessed this , one Major Forbes for example , wrote of what he saw in an expedition, and did their best to intercept the caravans. The Brits finally stopped it after taking Tanzania (Tanganyika) which had been a German colony , in ww1, but where the Germans weren't particularly active in stopping it (turning mostly a blind eye to what was still going on in a limited way in the sticks). Mozambique under the Portuguese were similarly lackadaisical. But,I stress this was in a limited area .
Well, by the time Germany was founded and started colonizing, most of the BEST colonies were already taken. Guess they weren't willing to rock the U-boat, if you will.
Didn’t realise it was still active in East Africa quite so late, but it’s no surprise. When Stanley was searching for Livingstone in 1870 he came across several slave caravans but his expedition was far too weak to take the slavers on. I can imagine a similar party of Germans with maybe a handful of native askari soldiers in the 1910s feeling too weak to intervene. It must have been the petrol-engine vehicle that made the difference.
@@sirrathersplendid4825David Livingston, the missionary, was a thorn in the sides of the Arab slave traders in East Africa. Before Christianity came to Africa, tribesmen were resigned to being taken as slaves by Arabs or other Africans. When Christianity gave them some feeling of their own individual liberty, they fought back. This, more than any other factor, diminished the slave trade on the East side.
*PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT* Using the excuse that "slavery was worldwide" doest change the EVIL of it. Especially in a country that supposedly stood for FREEDOM, the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,etc.
The oldest known statute of Croatian medieval commune is the statute of Korčula from the year 1214. On January 27, 1416 Dubrovnik adopted the abolition of slavery, which was the first case of its kind in Europe.
@@jasonwhite7677 did he? I found "While there was no legislation against slavery, William the Conqueror introduced a law preventing the sale of slaves overseas." (I did not follow the citations to the original sources though).
@@panda4247 you are correct, but the law William introduced also placed a tax on slave ownership, payable to him personally. Whether this tax was intentionally designed to end slavery in England, that was the final result. Within a few short years there were no slaves in his kingdom and it remained that way for millennia until they discovered sweatshops full of them in Leicester a few years ago. And the occasional Indian household containing one or two of their lower caste countrymen. Now there’s probably millions across Britain.
The majority of human history slavery was the normal.... It doesn't make it right, but it is a fact. Almost every race had slaves with the majority of slaves being sourced from the very population owning the slaves... As a progression of warped morality it became more acceptable to have 'others' as slaves instead of your own group. Slaves are still being sold today. My opinion is that the sin of slavery only resides with owners and slavers. Redemption is obtained by participation of the elimination and prevention of slavery. I do not believe that the sins of our fathers are ours We are responsible for our own actions good or bad.
your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you, from them you may buy slaves Leviticus 25: 44 NIV "sourced form the very population owning the slaves" So apparently the God of Abraham was ahead of his time.
@@reasonablespeculation3893 slavery predates the bible, and yet your example of taking slaves from outside your group exemplifies what I mentioned as "Warped Morality " We should not own people born nor constructed. I mentioned "constructed" specifically to cover self aware artificial intelligence (SAAI). If we do not have machine people already, then we soon will. We need to upgrade our morality and become better humans.
@@reasonablespeculation3893 The Book of Leviticus was not originally meant to apply to the general public: its laws were meant for the priests of the Temple, it describes the way things were, the coming of Jesus and his new covenant changed the law of God.
Every civilisation since the dawn of time has practiced slavery... The Irish did!!! (I'm Irish, St.Patrick was a captured slave...) In turn, Irish people in the 17th Century (Baltimore) were enslaved by the Ottomans... Who also raided British costal towns and even settlements in what's now Iceland!!! In pre-Columbian, (Aztec/Maya/Inca) America slavery was commonplace. In pre-European Africa (all over that continent) slavery was a matter of course. The Ancient Greeks had helots/slaves. As did the Romans. The Chinese had slaves, as did the Mughals in India and the Nipponese/Japanese. The Ancient Egyptians held slaves. (Though they didn't build the Pyramids... Trained engineers did that, in the main...) Non-Ottoman Arabia held slaves... (Up till the 1920s and after, indeed...) RUSSIA had SLAVS, it's where we get the name 'slaves'... BUT NOWADAYS IT'S ALL ABOUT THE TRANS ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE??? (It's like, "Hey, I've seen the TV Show 'Roots' and '"12 Years A Slave" so I'M AN EXPERT!!!!!) Maybe not? No European person EVER went to 'raid slaves' in Colonial Black Africa... (Not once...) They didn't have to... (Slaves were traded to Europeans by African Tribes or peoples who already practiced slavery...) EVENTUALLY it was THE BRITISH who said, "Actually, let's re-think this..." (NOT the Belgians, the Dutch, The Portugese, the Germans, the Spanish OR ANYONE ELSE!!!!) Only the British... In fairness, when THE BRITS decided that SLAVERY was an inhuman idea, they OUTLAWED IT!!! But, in doing THAT they compensated THE FUCK out of former slave owners... (Didn't give the 'ex-slaves' a penny!!!) Most had to sign back on for minimum wage... (They still PUT THE IDEA ABOUT that slavery was WRONG!!!) Europe got that in the end. Most Euro Nations followed. Eventually, (after a Civil War, so did North America...) But you know? History was sometimes really shit... But this modern idea of 'REPARATIONS'??? (FROM who TO WHO????) And WHY JUST THE DECENDANTS OF TRAFFICKED BLACK AFRICANS????? (What about EVERYONE ELSE IN HISTORY WHOSE ANCESTORS WERE ENSLAVED???) And WHY JUST the Negro People of Africa who were sent WEST, (ignoring the MILLIONS who were sent to the Muslim Empire in the East??? ALONG WITH CAUCASIAN SLAVES????) Many of those countries practiced slavery well into the 20th Century!!! (Some still do...) To this day... Let's get real... Let's REFERENCE... IF YOU THINK MODERN GERMAN PEOPLE OWE A CONSTANT DEBT BECAUSE OF THE HORRORS OF THE HOLOCAUST TO EVERY JEWISH PERSON ON THE PLANET THEN YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!! THEY DIDN'T DO IT!!! (Likewise to decendents of people OF ANY COLOUR OR ETHNICITY whose ancestors were enslaved...) Countries where ACTUAL SLAVERY STILL exists in 2023: India, Mauretania, South Sudan, Sudan, North Korea, Iran, Indonesia, China, Congo, Afghanistan, Ereteria, Burundi, Central African Republic, Pakistan and ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY other countries... (NONE OF THEM WESTERN/EUROPEAN countries...) If you are REALLY anti-slavery, stop fucking around in history books... (We've all got a story... Get over it...) Reperations my Irish arse... (HOW DARE YOU!!!) LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!!! And do something about that. xx SFR
During the American Revolution, the Brits offered passage to, and land in, Nova Scotia, to blacks who were able to escape their slave masters and fight with them. They did, however, face tough times and discrimination in N.S. Black loyalists in Upper and Lower Canada fought with the British / Canadian side against the American invasion in 1812, defending their new homelands.
Why yes, the root word of slavery is Slav. If done properly, the reparations maybe first should be paid to Belgrade. Oddly enough, that's not very fkkin likely.
@@GregBrownsWorldORacing - Hmm, initially Belgrade perhaps, but in more recent times, Kiev. From the 14th century onwards the Tatars were shipping vast numbers of Russian, Ukrainian and Polish slaves out to the Turkish empire through the port of Kaffa on the Crimea.
New Orleans had a large community of free blacks and many of them owned slaves. If not for Great Britain and the United States slavery would not have ended till many decades later than it did.
What should be among Britains most proud achievements is being demonised. it literally made the title of Great Britain entirely appropriate and I am proud of my ancestors for taking the moral stand and backing it up with incredible resources and effort. I heard the the general, very poor, population, would seek out goods not made by slaves to encourage the change…cotton from Southern USA for example was boycotted and more expensive cotton bought.
No he is not. HISTORY is saying that. BLACKS invented slavery in the earliest known records and guess who they kept for slaves? JEWS and WHITES and CHINESE. Thing is though black cultures were not great when it came to recording their history at the time as we were here. They just made it up from memory with a tonne of bias later on, meaning guys like you don't even know the fact of history that it was BLACKS who invented slavery and WHITES who fucked it up so bad it will never recover. Again, don't see any black cultures ever having done that! And neither would we expect them or anybody else to! IT WAS OUR THING WE DID.
@@ScandinavianHeretic How so? Slavery has never been about racism btw. And i'm curious, who do you think captured and sold the slaves in Africa? that's right, Africans did.
Did you know that the word slave derives from the Latin word sclāvus, which means "slave"? This is because during the Middle Ages, numerous empires and cultures frequently seized, sold, and forced into slavery Slavs, a group of ethnic peoples who largely inhabit Eastern Europe. Slavery was (and still is) a universal issue; at the moment, between 30 and 40 million people worldwide are believed to be living in modern slavery, which takes many different forms, including forced labor, human trafficking, debt servitude, and child exploitation.
A few weeks ago I believe it was the WHO that said they estimate there are 67 million people in slavery, not 'servitude' which is a lesser state of being, but SLAVERY. I should have been paying more attention to that short blurb on the news-but I'm pretty sure the announcer said WHO.
There's one useful rule to remember -- when you don't have any idea about something, just shut up. In slavic languages, there's a word for slave -- 'rob'. That word is used to create an another well known word -- 'robot'. I don't think that there's anyone from a slavic countries who whould think that someone from the west with a name Rob or Robert is actually a slave. It looks that they are not so stupid. Or that maybe the Slavs are probably the only ethnic group that never had slaves or knew slavery in any form.
Slavery was always about subjugation of various groups.The stronger group always won out.Race wasn’t really involved to a great degree until the transatlantic slave trade and that was more dependent on availability and convenience than pure race.
The only reason we have the grifters with their sights set on reparations is because we are weak & wracked with guilt - NOT because we were any worse than anyone else as this chap eloquently explains. The answer is just to grow a pair as a nation & shrug the grifters off elsewhere.
This isn't new information. This is knowledge we received in history class back in 5th or 6th grade in Norway. Detailes changes as we get more information but the basic information has been taught repetietley through 10th grade in history and other societal studies. Were we the only ones who learned this? It seems to be news for the majority when viewing all the podcasts about this subject
Good points, but it should also be noted that early objections to the slave trade came from the American colonies, primarily due to the concerns of the leading men of Virginia (though the Quakers in Pennsylvania had raised the issue even earlier). Britain forcing the slave trade on the colonies was one of the objections to British rule made in the Declaration of Independence. To their credit, the British took the point to heart. Unfortunately, the Virginians then had to deal with the fact that they had a large number of slaves in their midst who, for various reasons, were not well prepared to be made free. The U.S. outlawed participation of U.S. citizens in the trans-Atlantic slave trade in the first decade of the 19th century, but unfortunately it was found impossible to find a jury willing to convict those who did so in Massachusetts and Connecticut where most of the slavers operated from. They continued to flout the law until 1861.
Didn't most of the founding fathers own slaves? Mr Washington certainly did, while the British freed any slaves they came across during the war of independence, and transported them to Liberia if they wished, think your looking at American history threw rose coloured glasses
In addition to the Naval blockade of slave ports and the taking of ships involved in the slave trade, which cost a large portion of the British economy and 1,000s of lives, how many treaties, how much compensation, what battles were fought with the African and Muslim slave trading cities and empires to compel and force them to end slavery? Another point, is that when Britain passed laws freeing slaves throughout its empire the payment of compensation to British slave owners in the New World, enabled them to transfer from a slave economy to an apprenticeship/labour economy.
Slave narratives were hugely influential, though they're mostly forgotten today. It has been argued that slave narratives helped shape the modern novel, Robinson Crusoe being a link between the two. If you haven't, check out White Gold by Giles Milton. Terrific read.
In 1833 the British Empire took out loans to purchase and free all the slaves within their Empire...British taxpayers finally paid off those loans in 2014. No one else in the world took such measures so why are Anglo Saxon people primarily condemned for slavery? No good deed goes unpunished?
You just know that in 2033 there's going to be another massive call for apologies and reparations, when we should celebrate the anniversary of abolishing slavery.
On 27 January 1416 the Dubrovnik Republic abolished slave trading and became one of the first in Europe to do so… The decision to abolish slave trading was found in Dubrovnik's old statutes. Slavery was a legally recognised system in which people were legally considered the property or chattel of another. 300 years before denmark
@@KemetledAfrica In US, slavery was "racist" and it seems Black America who think themselves are the only victim of slavery, that's why they demand reparation money.
Slaves were considered livestock. So, I can easily see how people who accepted slavery as an institution, would find it unacceptable to abuse slaves. Most cattle ranchers want their cattle to be well treated and would decry anyone who would abuse their cattle.
@D-Bunker-zv1bj No one is saying it isn't. Almost 90% of all black slaves taken to China died. The Chinese would nor take " blue men" unless they had their testicles and penis removed. Not many survived the butchery. Arabs just required the testicles of black slaves removed so they couldn't breed. Do some reading from source testimonies.
Before slavery was invented defeated enemies werde eaten. After the invention of agriculture and farming they stayed alive because their work was a value. After the invention of steam engines slavery became obsolete.
The long and short of it is, industrial capitalism is the greatest liberating force in history, simply because free labor is vastly more productive than slave labor.
What he has to say would have a much greater impact if he was a better speaker. Many academics minimize the importance of their knowledge because they are such poor communicators. Many university professors are very adept at putting their students to sleep. Um,ah,hmmm,um,ah,ah,ah.....etc etc etc
I have a better questions. How do you think it was, a Jew Moses was indistinguishable from Egyptians? 😂 You know the Egyptians were malinated, stop kidding yourself.
Physical slavery has been abolished but mental slavery still exists. Coorporarions, governments, religions , cultures still treat masses as sheep and resist any form of change... Hence we shouldn't be flattered entirely that we live in a free world. Emancipation unadulterated is still elusive
2:45 and you should add, this is before machinery. Something we take for granted. Washing machines, child care, sustainable crop maintenance, animal husbandry, all laborious tasks before machinery... people did everything by hand. You raise a large family and have slaves to survive before modern infrastructures were created... through tons of labor before the industrial revolution.
The fact that there's been slavery through the ages does not make the western slave trade and institutionalised racism any better. People who became slaves have no blame for whatever others had done. The southern states of the USA lived and prospered on the horrible abuse, mistreating and murder of black African slaves. It was horrible. Even more horrible is that they built an ideology around it. And they still wave that racist flag.
talk about who owned the slave ships. Talk about who were the Portuguese’. They weren’t just any old Portuguese. Talk about who were the slave traders at both ends. Talk about the fact that over 90% of all slaves went to South America.
If you watch Latinos at American Universities - they call white people Colonisers - totally unaware that they were the first and most brutal Colonisers!
The first Synagogue in the new world was built in the first big slave trading outpost in Brazil, Recife. For the first 100 years or so the intercontinental slave trade was a Jewish monopoly and only after they saw how rich those Jewish family businesses got, did non-Jewish trading companies move in on the business and slowly pushed them out. I remember seeing a Jewish stand up comedian in the early 2000s doing basically a whole set about how ludicrous the idea was that Jews had anything to do with slavery. It was basically one "Hey, I might be white, but I am Jewish and we had nothing to do with slavery and all the other evil shit those other whites were doing! We're the good whites!"-joke after the other. It was especially funny (not in the sense that comedian intended it to be) because it was around at the same time when the "Blood Diamonds" movie with Leonardo DiCaprio was in theaters. That movie, written and produced almost exclusively by Jews, made white, tall blond Europeans with German and Dutch accents the evil villains behind the blood diamond trading business, even though in reality the diamond business is more dominated by and firmly in Jewish hands than the bagel and gefillte fish business.
I just realized something interesting with regard to slavery. When slavery is discussed, the topic of slavery in Asia: China, Manchuria,, Joseon, etc..is never, ever mentioned. Or the current one between the Middle East and India
5 facts straight from Jamaican that Europeans are never told. Fact 1 Arabs enslaved Saharan Africans as slaves as early as the 7th century Fact 2 Europeans got the idea and logistical methods and means from said Arabs. Fact 3 English folks used to use the Irish as slaves long before South Saharan Africans. Fact 4 when the English started used South Saharan Africans they were worth more than Irish due to the hardiness and malleability. Fact 5 South Saharan Africans sided with the Europeans to enslave their rivals. No love lost their.
I think Africans handled the climate better than Irish/white slaves. The plantations were in warm climates because that is where the cash crops thrived.
@@robertsettle2590You say wrong with no counter argument. 😆🤦🏿♂️ Edit* You've created a society of people over centuries through endless enslavement or at best indentured servitude. What would happen if you did that to animals you'd call that domestication right. Which = malleable
Fact 3 - When the Romans left Britain, the Gaelic Tribes of Ireland filled the void by pillaging the Island for sl aves. Dublin was started by the Danish and Irish, as the start of the journey for British sl aves who were then taken onto the Mud slim markets to be sold.
@@garyphisher7375 I don't know where you're going with this. It maybe true but doesn't take the takeaway from the point the English used the Irish as slaves in the long before any Africans.
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Pandering to the u educated and clueless are we?
Huuge things? Is FF going to expose himself on the Gam Cam?
California needs to pay reparations to its black citizens of at least $1M per black. Slavery is disgusting.
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@@byrons1339WAS. WAS disgusting. Get Oprah, the Obamas, M Freeman, Knowles, Sam L Jackson, D. Washington to share out the shed loads of dosh. You shouldn't be giving them shit reparations!
I have heard young people say slavery started in America, our school systems have failed miserably.
Discovered by Christopher Colum.....
i disagree, i think the school system is a huge success for the ruling cabal, its simply a propaganda tool and at that it has excelled
Oh they haven’t failed, they have been very successful in molding young minds to believe the lies they want them to believe.
I used to dodge school and spent most of my time in the library and read all sorts of history books.Quite clever cause what truant officers are going to search there.
@@geofftaylor8627 Truant officers?! Lol. Which distant decades of last century were you at school?
The last couple years I've taken a liking to studying history and the biggest eye opener was how ruthless it was for everyone. Nobody was exempt. But with little pockets of genuine humanity and kindness demonstrated by all races.
I got into history about 20 years ago. I'm an obsessive now. It makes you less surprised by things. E.g : there's a pandemic! Aaaaagh! As if it hadn't happened hundreds of times before.
I would not make the focus of the humanity and kindess demonstrated to be "race" and instead to across from different cultures, as that is a far more differentiating concept that just ethnicity.
@@boomguitarjared except maybe in early history when we really were isolated bands?
"No arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short." So said Thomas Hobbes in his Leviathan.
@@charlytaylor1748 Ethnicity was indicative of different cultures back in this earlier history. There is a narrative often pushed today that race was the primary dividing factor amongst peoples, where it was instead culture, and ethnicity was simply a signal of said culture.
The fact that we need to explain these facts to people today, young and old alike, tells you everything you need to know about the state of modern education. This was all well known fact as recently as the 1970s when I was growing up in America. When we lose our knowledge of history we are doomed to repeat its mistakes. It's sad how ignorant the public has become in just a few short decades.
Which makes the point about how bad the American education system has become. A strong public education system is crucial for a democracy to function properly, and that's a big part of why the American political system is failing so badly recently.
Our education system is basically an indoctrination system. A large portion of the Black population are still slaves. They are provided food and lodging. The greatest difference is the amount of labor required. They are only required to "work" on election day to keep their "masters" in the Democrat Party in power. In a sense all taxpayers are also slaves providing the means that the "masters" need to keep their "slaves".
I am not sure everyone is as ignorant as you suggest, though I do agree educational standards in the US are deplorable...but even if they don't learn about slavery as this narrator explains it, most people have seen countless movies on TV or online, of ancient times and virtually every one of those movies have slaves in them...I think for most modern folk they are consumed with what slavery in America meant...and that is not entirely unwarranted if you are an American...
It's not just in America. Our woke universities in the UK are currently expending huge amounts of time and effort trying to cancel the historical events that make the snowflakes cry!
It’s extremely sad when you now have the power of knowledge for anything in the palm of your hand. Slavery mainly affected the weak and the poor, not an ethnic group. No one was exempt from possibly becoming a slave. If the Vikings conquered the English or Scott’s, noble or commoner would become slaves.
The most remarkable thing about slavery as it pertains to western culture is the abolition of it.
yes because they ended up perpetuatiing it & as a result massively benefitted from it. Thats why most of western europe is just significantly richer than eastern europe cuz most of the western european countries had slaves from its empires.
@@darthvader3910 Utterly wrong, slavery was endemic in all nations, try watching and listening.
@@DD-gt2cv wut i didn't say that it wasn't lol
@@darthvader3910they end it because they benefit from it? What is the logical? Or do you have logic ever?
@@xchen3079 you do realize that the only reason why they ended it was because of the rivalry between different aristocracies or ruling powers and on top of that, they were in a position where they could afford to abolish slavery, cuz they had already benefited ridiculously by that point.
the problem is , people get their history lesson from Hollywood , which is the worst place to get a history lesson
so true
Yeah, they should come to youtube instead.. a figurative smorgasbord of confirmation bias
@@daveyboots79 no , just inject reality.
no , just inject reality , but you're probably afraid of truth
You are wrong our kids get it from our left wing teachers and they get from the corrupt universities
From UK, thank you for informing us all that Denmark abolished Slavery 3 years before Great Britain, but ONLY within their tiny country, but that the British Empire FORCED the Abolition of Slavery on every other Country outside of the British Empire as well as within.
England abolished slavery within England, in 1081 I believe
We were also trying to keep Europe free from enslavement by Napoleon so we had our hands full and our coffers empty. In fact we had to fight Denmark as well as we were concerned that Napoleon would get his hands on their fleet.
Bloody Danes, coming over here, taking over the north, smashing up the south, taking our jobs, our women! 🤪
Also, you were helping Russians to keep their peasants in virtual slavery! Get off hight house!
On 27 January 1416 the Dubrovnik Republic abolished slave trading and became one of the first in Europe to do so… The decision to abolish slave trading was found in Dubrovnik's old statutes.
On August 1, 1834, Britain passed the Slavery Abolition Act, outlawing the owning, buying, and selling of humans as property throughout its colonies around the world. 400 years after dubrovnik
Some people only care about the parts that make them ‘victims’ so they can monetize it. Never drop the con.
I always have to roll my eyes whenever I hear idiots complain and bitch about slavery/racism.
because it is extremely bias and always try making white people/Europeans feel guilty and ashamed for who we are.
as if white people wer enot enslaved by Turks, Mongols, Arabs and I could even say Persians in the Ancient period.
my country of Romania was colonized and ruled by Turks for hundred of years.
My Scotish DNA bought my Irish DNA a sandwich. Reparations paid.
keep the con alive, .... play the consciences of white libs, .... act like akatas were the only slaves in history. All the cash won't ever be enough.
@whitman maleman oy vey who owned all the slave ships???
@whitman maleman I would say that reading that comment and immediately thinking "jews" is a bit antisemitic. Profiting off of victimhood is nigh universal amongst all peoples who feel they've had it rough throughout history.
Africa is the biggest exporter of slavery to this day. It's a culture of dominance within their own people
And you can still buy/sell black people in parts of the middle east, cos the moment the British Navy pulled out? They went right back to the Trade.
Wrong. It's India.
It's not 'their own people'. They are from the same continent yes but that never made humans consider each other a 'people'.
@@vulkanofnocturne - You're funny.
UN estimates that there are berween 8 and 10 million slaves in Africa today.
What surprises me is that so many people seem to totally ignore slavery has always been a part of history, all over the world and affected all kind of people...
And that people long ago ended it. You’d think Gen Z and millennials ended it the way they posture about it.
We care about western slavery and how the west exploited slavery. It was cruel.
@@saregama-r8td slavery was everywhere. Several Native American cultures were sacrificing thousands of slaves to their gods each year. The people obsessed with the west are just looking for some reason to beg for money or pity
@@saregama-r8td sure, because the slavery happening everywhere else is so much better?
On the west coast of what is now Canada, different indigenous tribal raiding parties from ancient times had conducted brutal raids on weaker tribes literally slaughtering everyone in their path. Except for women and girls which were carried off as slaves. Acquiring female slaves was undoubtedly the prime motivation for the 'warriors' to conduct these raids. What else of value did these poorer tribes possess? But then in the 1860's the first prime minister of Canada, John A. Macdonald, put an end to this barbaric scene. This is the same JA Macdonald that the modern howling idiots are removing his statue which, of course, seems to be just fine with the MSM who never mention he is the one that ended 'first nations' slavery.
Good ol' John A. also advocated withholding food from the Indigenous peoples of the plains, who were already starving due to the annihilation of the buffalo herds by (mostly American) hunters, in order to get them out of the way of his railroad project. He set up the national residential school system, and he executed First Nations and Metis leaders of the northwest rebellion. The railroad united us and made Canada possible as a nation. I'm very happy to be Canadian! I believe in learning from history and don't see much point in toppling statues. Nor do I think we should lionize our PMs like the Americans do their presidents. History is one very complex and tangled web!
@@CatrionaRuadh Agreed. But you have to hear all sides of history, not just the current in vogue one.
didn't the french from quebec support some of the first nations against stronger tribes ?
@@CatrionaRuadh Yes, the same residential school system that indigenous leaders pleaded the government to create so their children could have the same opportunities as non-indigenous children.
Residential schools are another example of history cherry picked in order to create clear distinctions between 'victims' and 'victimizers.' The truth is far more nuanced than the biased 'findings' foisted on Canadians today.
@@CatrionaRuadh go kiss climate Barbie !!!!!!!!!!!!!
A small point, but last week I watched a BBC prog about Art. For some reason, slavery made its way into the programme....some connection between the Gallery's long long dead owners are slavery. The gallery's Administrator commented about the slaves that "THE BRITISH CAPTURED". Oh dear. No, Slaves from West Africa were NOT "captured" by the british----they were SOLD to the British by Africans themselves who had been trading their own people for many decades before the British got there.
Likewise. I started to watch a BBC programme about a National Trust property. The black female presenter then started to tell us about a painting from the house that was to be cleaned. She was very keen to point out the little black boy in the picture dressed in some very fine clothes who was clearly a slave.
I don't know what happened after that.
@@Simonsimon-fy3hq Oddly enough, even if said boy was a 'slave', his lifestyle would've been far better than his relatives back in Africa . Oh the irony ! At least he wasn't in chains, eh !?
Indoctrination? There were school books in the 1970s that showed British sea men with nets capturing Africans. This was literally what the Barbary pirates did to white Europeans.
That’s the dam BBC pushing their poisonous anti-British agenda!
Wrong - it wasn't decades, it was hundreds of years. The Mudslim colonisation of Africa started in the 7th century - the ports and markets were built soon after.
Thank you for listening to someone speaking about the actual historical facts.
History has always been incredibly brutal. People seem to forget that the rules were "anything goes" for most of history. If France or Spain could have conquered and enslaved Britain, they would have...and vice versa. Life wasn't cosy and cuddly.
Most people were illiterate, might made right, people died at a very young age. It was horrible. It's impossible to just impose today's moral righteousness on such a time, when we have so much more education and less hardship now.
The world is brutal now.
Isis had sex slave markets.
In Lybia they now have slave markets for Christian and none Muslim people.
If folk are hung up on slavery they need to sort out slavery now not in the past.
@@michaeldoolan7595 So true. So much suffering in the world right now and so little is done about it. Too much pontificating about things that already happened.
All first world ppl who complain about what was done here in the past need to go live in a third world country for a month.
The people died young myth comes from misunderstanding of average life expectancy. Many people died at childbirth, or as an infant. Also lots of epidemics. Both of which drag the average down a lot. Barring those two, many people lived close to the same age as in current day. They didn't have modern medicine, but they also weren't overweight, didn't eat processed crap and lot's of unhealthy chemicals, got a lot of sun and did mostly physical labor.
Most people do not forget any of that.
I remember I once said ' Free'd slaves had slaves themselves.' I was basically excommunicated from the black union
Good for you, though.
Personally, the cost of lost relationships / friendships has been worth it rather than being under their Boot of Mind Control and Groupthink Brainwashing.
Continue to stand for Truth.
You have something in common with the British: no good deed, goes unpunished.
Speak your truth brother 👍🏼
Freed Slaves did have Slaves, they enslaved their friends and family. So much so the local governments started passing anti-manumission laws. They were the Slave owners who did not run death plantations.
Thomas Sowell mentioned in one of his videos that the very first slave owner in the US colonies was black
Indeed, the amazing part about the story of slavery is that modern, compassionate, rational thinkers finally decided to ban something horrible that had been going on since "the dawn of time." Well done, humanity.
What about all those historical abolitions (Cyrus the Great, Ashohka, Hideyoshi, Hongwu emperor, etc...) of slavery. Hunter-gatherers also didn't have slaves. Confucius also used the logic of reciprocity or the golden/silver rule to argue against slavery.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_abolition_of_slavery_and_serfdom
There is a big difference between enslaving people because they lost a war or can't pay a debt, and enslaving people because they were considered animals.
You still don't "get it" about the distant past. For many slaves, slavery was bad, but preferable to the alternative, which was of course death. Millions of people throughout the world have simply been killed out of hand so that the conquerors could take their land and move their OWN peasant class in to farm it or to hunt the game (animals) there. Foreigners were just vermin. The mere concept of racism is a very modern one. "The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there."
@@AlexRodriguez-gb9ez You are so stupid that it makes me sick :). Learn to count, idiot! All these abolitions of slavery that you write about collapsed very quickly. As soon as the power that enforced them fell, the decrees abolishing slavery fell. They quickly returned to the past and it was even worse than before the laws you mentioned were introduced. Next: calculate how long the laws you are writing about were in force and compare them to the contemporary situation. Today the same thing will happen as then! As soon as the forces that forced the abolition of slavery collapse or weaken, it will be reintroduced! The Middle East, India, Africa, China - they will take care of it! There's too much money to be made on this for anyone to forget about it! The changes introduced by: Cyrus the Great, Ashohka, Hideyoshi, Emperor Hongwu, etc. turned out to be completely irrelevant in the long run. Hunters and gatherers did not have slaves for one reason only: it would be impossible to keep an eye on them if they were constantly on the move. You would need to have 3x as many guards as slaves. But you are too stupid to notice such things, because if you weren't too stupid, there would be no need to write about it to you! And let it dawn on you that almost 200 years without slavery in the Western World today is like 2000 years in the times of Cyrus the Great, Ashohka, Hideyoshi, Emperor Hongwu (you know that Akhenaten, who introduced monotheism in Egypt, was probably overthrown not for this reason at all only but also because he wanted to abolish slavery?) due to the pace of civilization changes. Therefore, it can be concluded that the changes introduced by the rulers you mentioned were completely irrelevant! Because they were the blink of an eye and not any real and lasting change.
P.S.: And that's why I hate Wikipedia because it is created by the same stupid, left-wing and ignorant people like you :P.
“Those that move through life looking to be offended are always successful.” - Me
Good quotation. Lol.
But really, you are right. It is true. They are always successful in this quest - at least in this time period.
Thanks Me. I'll use that one. If anyone asks who the quote is from I can simply and honestly say "Me". As an aside, you can change the word 'offended' to similar ones like miserable or victims etc..
I am offended for being white as I was born. Must be a victim like so many others....
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Hahaha, may I quote you ,sir?
What’s galling is that modern western societies are having to deal with this accusation of guilt by association when these very societies have shown the greatest moral progress in history. And at the same time slavery and crimes against humanity occurring outside the western hemisphere are simply overlooked. A true activist would try to stop current abuse but that’s hard. Much easier to prosecute history on sympathetic people.
That’s because it’s mainly being pushed by emotional young women who have little understanding of history or indeed of the how the world works.
Yes, the "greatest moral progress in history". Especially in the southern States where, once slavery was abolished, everyone embraced their former chattel as brothers and sisters, living in harmony and mutual respect, from that day forward.
@@slangster233 yes of course, because human progress is like instant coffee -- just add hot water & stir.
@@slangster233it's never good enough is it? If you think it's so bad, why are you still here? Why don't you go somewhere where you are treated with the respect you deserve. It's a big world, no one's holding you back
@@rickerhart907Are you really this stupid? Your advise is to walk away?
The exceptional fact about slavery is not that it existed since humans started forming tribes but that Britain abolished it at the height of its colonial power. Makes you proud to be British 👏🇬🇧
Britain only renounced it after they lost the colonies and thus lost the profit from slavery. The Northern states (state meant country back then) abolished it before Britain. Britain and Spain brought it to the Americas. We had to eradicate the last vestige of British slavery while it was still profitable. Also Thomas Jefferson abolished the Atlantic slave trade while Britain was still running slave ships.
I used to speak up for Britain until I heard them blame my country for slavery. Don't open pandoras box if you don't want the truth.
Not to mention that at the time the British Empire was actually rather big. So a lot of the world was affected by that policy.
That sounds like an excuse to me. Everyone was buying and selling human beings, so the slave owning Americans were just doing what everyone else was doing. The thing is, without the Civil War, they would have still wanted that slavery to continue.
Ignoring the fact that Britain profited hugely off the abolition of slavery as a well placed naval power transitioning from mercantilism towards free trade
...I'm not so proud that as a nation we decided to compensate slave owners for loss of income, borrowed massively to do this, and only finished paying off the debt in 2015.
I sat through a meeting where we were told that we can pinpoint the beginning of racism to when the Portuguese started exporting African slaves. As a historian, I nearly shat myself out of sheer shock at the stupidity.
@randabe765 Well it was a major step. Before that race was not a major factor in slavery or other forms of forced labor.
@@dennisweidner288 If you believe that you really need to go study history. You have no idea what you are talking about.
@@tessmoore3762 So typical. Rather than discuss the issues like someone interested in history, all you have is a personal insult. That not only speaks to your character but the fact that you are afraid to discuss the issues in an open forum because you know that your hate-America narrative does not bear up to actual debate and historical fact. I suggest you go to the southern border to see how people of ALL ETHNICITUES feel about America. You might also want to hear about what Britney Griner has to say about America now.
@@dennisweidner288--You mean this: June 27, 2023, "Brittney Griner calls airport harassment incident[by RUclipsr Alex Stein] 'rock bottom' for WNBA", for not allowing players to fly on private jets more than twice per season. Brittney Whiner is back to her/him old self.
@@dennisweidner288--"race was not a major factor in slavery" ...Tell that to the White women(and men) taken in the Mediterranean by the N. African Muslims(the slave traders in Africa for centuries) Barbary Coast Pirates to sell to the Middle(Ottoman Turks) & Far East, at a rate of 3X as many as Blacks sent to N America. Reparations? No, they're All dead.
In historical Fact, there were more Irish slaves in the New World than Blacks(Henry Gates Jr.--388,000 total Blacks vs over a Million Irish).
But the North wrote the history, so the Irish, Chinese, Japanese, and India were called "indentured servants", who were allowed to buy their freedom, just like Blacks.
"Between 1830 and 1920, about 1.5 million indentured laborers were recruited from India, one million from Japan, and half a million from China." Note is says 1920, NOT 1808(outlawed the importation of Blacks as slaves) or 1863-1867(Emancipation and 13th,14th, & 15th Amend, which didn't apply to the others). The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882(no xenophobia there, right?) wasn't overturned until 1943.
Slavery is STILL happening in Africa TODAY(Boko Haram).
'Reparations' for slavery hundreds of years ago is wrong. Simple really.
It's actually incredibly flattering. They are saying whites should've known better - and who can blame them?
@@garyphisher7375 Why 'whites should have know better'? Shouldn't that be 'people should have known better'? I think so, ergo we should ALL be entitled to 'reparations'. Better to spend the money on righting PRESENT wrongs?
@@garyphisher7375 Wonder what they would think about the face that some slave owners in the US were black.
@@thesmallnotesduo Why should people know better? The prophets of Jwse owned and traded salves - the Prophet of his lamb owned and traded salves (he even owned s*x salves) - Paul the Apostle said that salves should obey their masters.
Salvery was older than the Torah, the Bible, and the Quran. It was widespread around the planet.
To say whites owe reparations, is putting us higher than their Gods - incredibly flattering.
No-one seems to bring up Germany needing to pay some reparations...
Very informative. Thanks Mr. Biggar for being willing to speak honestly.
If some what inaccurately
Thnak you for your brave stance for logic, decency and common sense!
Often overlooked, the Northern states in the US enacted the first laws to abolish slavery by 1799 and establish themselves as Free States. Pennsylvania was the first state to pass a law aimed at ending slavery in 1780.
Hi Dave
The northern states were first to enact anti slavery laws but they basically activated slavery again after the war. Lincoln had planned to send blacks back to Africa after the war. We even bought a small country for them.
They shot Lincoln and kept the black peoples to work in their factories in the north for almost nothing. Many had been better cared for as slaves in the south.
When I was in school, 40 odd years ago, we were only taught about the slave trade. We weren't told anything about our role in stopping it.
And you probably were not told that your ancestors had been enslaved by the people now seeking to demonize you. Makes it obvious that anyone saying you have a month for your history is lying.
Unfortunately, when faced with just one of the slavery OBSESSED zealots who regularly appear on GBNews, Talk TV etc, (and we know who they are), this guy would be shouted down, called a liar and all of his arguments refuted or denied in a tirade of shouting, screaming and denial.........he certainly wouldn't be discussing it quietly over a cup of tea whilst being listened to intently.
Those people listen to NOTHING ELSE but their own views and refuse to let anyone contradict them!
Please show some regard for all those imported Africans and Asians who would not have been imported into the UK if colonisation hadn't happened. Slavery worked out well for them. Free education, medical needs, welfare and benefits? I 'm sure they count their blessings every single day.
If you wanna see their heads explode tell them that banning slavery was a Christian principle.
They LOVE talking about how technically the old law allowed it, and some of the plantation owners claimed to be Christians.
but the first book calling for the abolition of slavery in the US was published by the Quakers. those guys were, even by modern standards, zealots.
Yes, Quaker Oats is named after them. it's a brand-name literally centuries old. The Quaker sect were back before the Revolutionary War a rather large and influential producer of grain.... and one of their beliefs as a Christian sect, is that there was no moral ground for having slaves. And thus they published a book about it.
It's because they suffer from psychosis and are incapable of thinking rationally so all they can do is scream. Unfortunately it makes most decent humans afraid when they encounter this behavior and they resign and just decide to go somewhere else and enjoy life however they can.
Indeed, that kind of over sensitive mob mentality has become the norm in almost all talk shows, even the ones that used to boast a serious reputation. Silencing whomever isn’t touting the officially sanctioned brand of disinformation has turned into a blood sport of sorts, for the gatekeepers of postmodern truth can’t suffer any heretics to try and open the eyes and minds of their docile flock. Utterly abhorrent behaviour to anyone genuinely thirsting for knowledge and wisdom.
don't remove their victimhood - it's all they have!
This is not hidden knowledge. Purchasing slaves was as common as buying home appliances now. The thing we should linger on is how we actually got past it. It's a great accomplishment really.
Sadly we still have a ways to go. Human trafficking seems to have been on the rise again since the 1970's
There are more slaves than ever. But focussing on history means we dont have to help those suffering right here right now.
@@alisonhunt9459 I dont think I agree with you here. The two do not need to be mutually exclusive. Slavery today has far less transparency than in the past so one of the few ways for us to connect to this despicable act is by seeing it effects on people and culture from our past.
We got past it by paying the slave traders a fortune to stop.
Thank you so much for not interrupting him and letting him speak!!! Most interviewers are awful in that respect.
Agreed. Good point.
Dear British people, you do realize that even if some high aristocrats or merchants were involved in the slave trade, then most of yours great great grandparents were most likely peasents who even if not called slaves were in pretty similar situation. You didnt own anything, you could "rent" your little farm from aritocrats and give most of your earnings to them and kingdom or later years escape to the city where you did horrific manual labor and rented a room by day if you managed to earn enough money for that day. And it was common and the sign of its time but still people who had nothing to do with it are dragged into as well.
Dear British people? Dont think that situation was much different from anywhere else at that time in Europe and Asia. Most British people have a good knowledge of history if compared to America because they are surrounded by it. I was personally taught this in history at school.
Serfdom and indenture was pretty much slavery.
You will need to wind the clock back significantly more than great great grand parents to encounter the feudal serfs that you describe. I'm guessing that you are from the USA so the chances are that these very very long dead peasants night be your descendants as well. The situation you mention with manorial lords and land bonded peasants was the situation in the 12th Century, with the beginning of the end for serfdom in the 14th century with the peasants revolt. It was all ended officially in Britain in the late 15th century by Elizabeth I. Remember this was 200-300 years before the Pilgrim fathers set foot on North America and over 500 years before emancipation reform in Imperial Russia.
Medieval history is taught in all British schools so we are all well aware of the plight of the poor old medieval serfs and the fuse lit by Wat Tyler in 1341. But what I'm not grasping is the point you are trying to make with this open letter specifically to the British. Why do we need the special treatment?
We are aware. A peasant farmer was worth nothing a slave was.
@@Lexicondiablo - It’s pretty obvious what he’s saying. The accusations are primarily made against the British, but it wasn’t the British as a whole, it was a tiny number of wealthy merchants and investors. The vast bulk of the population were too busy struggling to stay alive and played no part, and therefore bear no inherited guilt.
Every Brits should be proud of this, and this is in fact the single most admirable progress in the human history.
Yes, and sucking the entire world dry by the British Empire for about 200 years.
The Brits were also first in the world in animal rights.
@@MXB2001 Don't forget about English introducing cuddly rabbits, foxes, cute cats and many other none native animals to Australia and eradicating over 20 indigenous species. All in the name of fun. Brits are great people.
The British abolished slavery only after they had lost their American colonies, and enforced the end of slavery in other countries for the same reason as the North in the American Civil War - so they wouldn't be at an economic disadvantage.
@@greentea9335 Thank you for posting. I never heard of British doing something altruistic. Now I have the whole picture.
Should Britain apologise for forcing other countries to abandon slavery???
Mauritania abolished slavery in 2008 that's right 2008 most Arab countries did not outlaw slavery until the middle of the 20th Century fact.
they legally abolished it, but slavery is still tolerated there.
@@sussexboy100 It is estimated that up to 20% of the population of Mauritania are still in some form of bondage, but of course no one wants to address that issue, it's all whiteys fault.
Name a Slave holding country and the product they put to market.
@@halbleavy9900 China, Apple Phones.
Nope, you're wrong, you're just not correct. Do you even know the meaning of Slavery?
The most effective way to destroy people is to destroy and obliterate their own understanding of their history.
It's fair to say that slavery had pretty much died out in Europe by the time contact with Africa was made. It was THAT contact which re-ignited the trade. It's a valid argument that it was the Africans who corrupted the Europeans, not the other way around.
The Mediterranean slave trade never abated. After the Romans lost control, it continued under the Germans and then under the Muslims. The Arab and the Turks were slave empires. and with no more prohibition on it continued the practice until after the British came to dominate the region. Jefferson sent a naval force to the Med to free Americans enslaved by the Moors. As many black African went to the Middle East as went to the Americas.
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of course it is a valid argument. it was also the Africans who invited/asked the European to colonize them and exploit their resources.
@@bekkouriarts1634 Exploit their resources - so why have they never expolited it for themselves?
You are aware (yes I know you're not) that the Europeans lost money colonising Africa. There are many Parliamentary debates, in Britain and in Germany, where the Politicians argue about whether to leave Africa - because it was costing them a fortune, and there were no clear benefits.
It was the Africans themselves that begged Europeans to stay - they wanted to learn from the Europeans - we were "forced" to leave by the U.N. after WWII.
And I bet you didn't know that we were invited into Africa. Without that invitation, we would've stood no chance against the African warriors.
And the reason they invited us in - because of the Arab/Muslim colonisers - who had been conquering Africa since the 8th century - taking over 10 million Africans as slaves. Go and find out what they did to those slaves - you'll find out why there are no "black communities" in Arabia.
I bet you are also unaware of the Islamic colonisation of Europe - the reason European powers were needed.
The Europeans, especially the British, are the heroes - stop listening to the Marxist rewriting of history, and go and read some books!
@@bekkouriarts1634 The point flew over your small head.
The Africans were the ones who took and sold the slaves, offering them to the Europeans. Without that there would be no transatlantic slave trade.
Slavery has existed in China longer than the 5000 years of culture itself. If not for pressure from the West, I don't think it will momentary stop it.
Yes, slavery still exist now in China and they pretty up the words as "Human's trafficking".
They should of taught this in schools ever since it happened. Most people have no idea.
'have taught' not 'of taught'
Slavery is often sold with West. But it was huge in the Middle east too. People often forget the "Golden Islamic period" was a time of rampant, brutal Slavery, sometimes even worse than the West.
European slavery was a thing long before the Portuguese in the 1400's. The Roman's enslaved Britain's and others within it's empire and after them came the Vikings that were also slavers. Prior to the Romans Iron Age people were into human sacrifice so I have no doubt that they also had slaves too. Much later we had serfs that were slaves in all but name and pressgangs taking men off the street. Then with war came abuses in Europe where people were forced to work for the Nazis and captured British and Allied troops were used as slave labour by the Japanese. But of course only black Africans are the victims of slavery and need reparations and special treatment.
Portuguese (and other Europeans) were being enslaved by moors before 1400
The barbary pirates used to raid attacks on coastal European shores to hijack people to either ask for a ransom or to sold them as slaves
As Nigel briefly pointed out Rome got Slaves from Western African tribes. As did Greece, Egypt and East Africa with Arab slave traders. Millions of them, some of them were castrated because Rome and Athens demanded that. It took ten slaves to get one that survived the castration
@@rlh5870 I can assure you the slaves they used in Britain were not African slaves, it was the indigenous population. North Africa was a part of the Roman empire too so taking slaves from there wasn't that big a distance and it was likely the indigenous people that rounded them up as they did for the Europeans a millennia later. The point I was making is that he stated that the first European slavers were the Portuguese from the 1400's. Not so, it was documented from Roman times in the UK and likely further back but undocumented. Eastern European Slavs get their name as these people were a source of slaves and also long before the 1400's.
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Slavery, New World. Edition. Talk to the vast majority of US citizens. The US was the largest receiver of Africa slaves. 12 million in total. But Brazil accounted for 42%, Mexico and Caribbean islands got more slaves, initially than US colonies 400-500 thousand. Henry Louis Gates stated that on his PBS show. But must people think we got Brazil type numbers
@@rlh5870 18 million were used by Arabs and their trade started long before the Europeans and ended long after it. Their treatment of slaves was far harsher too and they also hunted and enslaved Europeans including us Brits. Nobody is saying it was a good thing, but the popular narrative is that it was all about white Europeans enslaving black Africans a few centuries ago. It's not, it's mush older than that and we've all been victims of it at some time in our history.
As Nigel says, slavery was a fact of life. People accepted it just as they accept working for a wage today.
Wait for a few years and a similar outcry will happen about ownership of pets and the use of animals as beasts of burden, let alone food. Millions of our descendants will be prosecuted for animal ownership, just wait and see.
Few are willing to ask why it was a fact of life in the first place and why abolishing it took 19th-century warships.
@@Ray-wy4kq Simplicity Man's inhumanity to Man is reality and always has been and will be, Ask Hitler, Chairman Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot. They are all the same, indoctrinate your people to kill each other, or do other nasty deeds and they will gladly do it. Mob rule always tends to be cruel.
Actually everyone did not accept it. Many Americans were against Slavery if you're seeking honest conversation. There were Abolishionists who helped Slaves escape and hid them as they made their way North in America. Nigel is past full of shit.
@@Ray-wy4kqdo tell
Another fact of history, is while there were many instances of absolutely barbaric slavery, there were also instances where it functioned as a "privatized well-fare system" in the sense that if a person couldn't manage to survive by failing to feed or house themselves, they could sell themselves into slavery were the agreement essential stood as "I house you and feed you and in return you serve my estate."
Those are the "slaves" discussed in the talmud, more indentured servants than what most people think of as slaves today, but the word was used.
@zeehero7280 Yup, that's 100% what I was thinking of. In the Torah/Pentateuch it lays the law of how a Jewish person could indenture themselves to a fellow Jew for 7 years at a time, or permanently (marked by a ear ring) if they believed they were unable ever provide for themself on their own.
The moment "reparations" comes into the conversation I always ask if they think slavery is racist. If they answer "yes" then I know they are not worth engaging with and should be completely ignored due to poor intellect/knowledge.
bro, chill the fuck out and have some perspective before treating people that way to begin with. Jesus fuckin Christ dude. Sounds like an excuse for you to trick people into saying an answer you don't like. The idea of slavery is not racist, but slavery in the u.s. LEAD to extreme racism down the line. Don't be dim
Well that will mean every single one of them.
Might slavery be considered "racist" from an ethnicity perspective? One group enslaving another/other group?
On the topic of a moral right to receiving "reparations," engaging in a discussion with proponents certainly "should be completely ignored due to poor intellect/knowledge."
@@richardwysocki8300 The vast majority of human history has been full of slavery and the vast majority of that was not enslaving other races or ethnicities. They enslaved those close to them.
A minuscule minority of the history of slavery had anything to do with race/ethnicity.
Thank you for your reply, Sir. I guess I need to do more research.
Listening to some black activists, I sometimes get the impression that they consider past slavery a privilege. This seems the case, as they certainly make a cushy living from the grift.
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Slavs were enslved for centuries in much greater numbers but you do not hear them complaining and wanting reparations. They were enslaved so much that name of ppl became synonim for slave.
They would not have it any other way!
They've made it "a privilege" -- to be unaccountable for their own actions (not all of them) -- appropriating the suffering of SOME of their ancestors - a shameless racket
easier than working for a living, I guess
Thomas Sowell has some excellent writing on the subject. He says that the US was only remarkable in that we were the only country that fought a war with ourselves to end it, and the UK was remarkable in that they arguably may have exhausted a good bit of the monetary strength of their Empire in trying to end it across the rest of the world where they had the power to try and do it. And still it persists to this day, and no one likes to acknowledge it. Instead we'd rather beat the blameless over a past they had no part of.
That’s the way I was taught in school in the 70’s .
What about Slavic people somehow no one mentions. The word 'slave' itself comes from Slavs.
I live in Western Europe and most of the people I spoke with (French, Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, British) never heard of Slavs as an ethnic group.
Furthermore if you check the Wikipedia page 'slavery' Slavs are mentioned there extremely sporadically (maybe 3-4 times in the whole long article). The overwhelming focus is on African people. The role of Slavic people in Arabic/Islam Empire's slave trade is not spoken at all. There were serious numbers of slaves involved (millions of people were captured, enslaved, exported, castrated in early Middle-ages with destinations of North Africa, Spain, Middle East). Not a word about it.
Even the etymology of the word 'slave' doesn't clearly specify, which ethnic group is the source of it.
One can only wonder what's the reason for this silence. As multiple source material of Arabic origin hasn't been translated it's difficult for western historians to have access to it.
Modern culture focuses on African people, which in my opinion distorts the history of slavery (I suppose it's used as a political tool especially in the USA, which is not representative of the whole world).
Also Slavs were traditionally considered (from my personal experience still are considered) lower class people among Westerners. For instance if you look at modern Scandinavian historians they still try to avoid connecting Vikings with Slavic influence despite clear evidence.
That's because we still carry the stigma of being backwards and lesser than western Europeans. Even though our people invented most of the technology we enjoy today. Electric motor, remote control, radio, the pen, fingerprint ID parachute, ...the list goes on. Also, we would have to talk about our Turkish "freinds" and how they terrorized us until the end of WWI. The Muslims put millions of Slavs into slavey; alot ending up in North Africa and Turkey. Whatever...no one gives a rats ass.
Correct
Probably because most people know so it goes without saying.
Slavs don't make good show victims because of their stiff-necked resilience and cultural cohesion.
I know why it's not mentioned. The colour of the Slavs - (and yes I knew about it.) Putting it on wikipedia that the Slavs WERE WHITE PEOPLE would derail the woke communities train of "it's just about us black people" - quite apart from the small but inconvenient truth that the romans traded WHITE SLAVES all the time.
For those reading French read famed historian Bernard Lugan recent book out in the last 3-4 years where he describes the 5 types of historical slavery that occurred. Lugan also was on lots of yt videos talking about slavery. The longest slavery was centuries-long by the moslems with Europeans slaves before the Pope got the Crusades thing going. They're still at it TODAY in some countries targeting Christians or other ethnic/religious groups like Isis did with the Yazidis.
The fact that moslems in what is known as Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan have 100% control of their female population that literally do not see the light of day (either by being forced to stay indoors or have their bodies completely covered while outside with a male chaperone) is absolute slavery. One never hears of American blacks discussing this. On the contrary, it seems to be quite trendy to adopt islamic names and renounce and denounce their birth religion of Christianity. Also, there is no uproar against the butchering of non-moslems throughout Africa.
@@leejones7439 Great point !
Who held Slaves in the British American Colonies and United States of America?
@@halbleavy9900 As I wrote above there were/are 5 different slaveries. The one you're talking about is the only one and never are the other 4 discussed including the Europeans Whites which lasted way more centuries than your exemple. You also neglect to mention or maybe are unaware of who gave the idea first to the Europeans ??? They jumped on the bandwagon after beeing offered Black slaves while their ships were on Africa's coasts. I suggest you also take a look at explorer Livingstone's writings and drawings where he is utterly horrified by what's he's witnessing, Black on Black savagery. He was the first European to venture into the dark continent. The different tribes stuff is very much still in play today there. How about you start looking at Idi Amin life and works ? Don't stop with him as there's lots more of his type. IMore recently Rwanda, Nigeria, ETC..... Black on Black savagery. As the economy worlwide is slowing down/collapsing there will not be any more money going there. Expect much more savagery. Will you be writing about those ?
@@MarinaLaroche You are on point. Many blame the Portuguese for starting African slavery, but they forget that the Portuguese refused countless times to exchange the goods they owned for Africans who were slaves of African tribal chiefs. The other African try to lure the Portuguese to give them valuables good the Portuguese had, like weapons, swords and even musket.
The Portuguese were merchants and when they arrived in Brazil they made many trades, the indigenous people of the Amazon exchanged the golden stones they picked up in the river for the utensils, clothes and weapons that the Portuguese had, In India (Goa) the Portuguese exchanged what they had for spices, in China (Macau) and Japan they exchanged it for silk, jade and rice, the problem with the Africans is that they had nothing of value (for the Portuguese made some trade), so the Africans did everything for the Portuguese to accept human beings ( slaves) as a trade, i never saw confirmation but it seems that Portugal sent a missive to the Pope asking if it was Christian to accept slaves as a bargaining chip and that the Pope replied in the affirmative.
People back then accepted slavery as people do today with sweat shops for fast fashion and footwear.
You left out their Apple iPhones...😁
@@Nyet-Zdyes I believe you meant to say most, if not all electronics?
@@raifthemad Okay... the other ones, too.
Are not the sweat shops a form of slavery?
this is why we need to stop regulating and taxing manufacturing out of America and into China. once we fix that we can cease trade with china entirely.
Historically, over millenia, slavery was globally widespread. It seems today, that most outraged on the subject matter have no concept of the history, apart from a narrow selective interpretation.
I come from a mixed heritage background, Scottish, Indian, English, Irish, Native American. Those are the links we know about so far. Since tracing our family tree I've become much more interested in history. It's great hearing all the different points of view surrounding various subjects, this being one of them. I'm completely hooked on the industrial revolution and how it came about and its effects on the world. It's truly astonishing how people /companies/governments can do such great things and/or such terrible things. What I find most shocking is that there are still approx 50 million slaves throughout the world. It seems like an impossible task to stamp it out.
I think that they might be inflating the # of slaves...
Sort of like they inflate the #'s around "human trafficking" by including the people who hire "coyotes" to smuggle them into a country.
It is the one thing the United Nations could do.
To stamp out world slavery by force if needs be is a noble cause anyone can get behind.
@@michaeldoolan7595 Well, not "anyone" can get behind stamping out modern slavery. The ones who would oppose it are the modern day slavers (including some governments).
@@michaeldoolan7595i fortunately the UN is a cabal of eunuchs ; they have not lived up to thier Nobel charter since 1953 in Korea
This should be taught in every school in the U.K.
I learnt about the slave trade in 2004 I think, and we never found out that Britain abolished the slave trade first.
However we also didn't have any guilt, shame or blaming either.
I learnt about this at school in the 90s and the only thing we ever learnt about Britain's role was that Britain ended the slave trade. Almost nothing about its role in profiting from it for centuries.
@@jc9060 So who did they teach you was doing the slave trade?
@@jc9060 britain didn't profit from that slave trade. a handful of property owners benefited from that slave trade. question: if you had a choice.......... 1. your mother could live to be at least 60, and some of your belongings would go missing for this. and 2. your mother could be around probably no longer than 30 years (age 30), and none of your personal belongings would go missing. which would you choose (given that those few belongings that went missing, you didn't even know you had them, and had no use for them)?
@@timbradshaw5481 They didn't really. The history only started in depth with campaigns to end it.
This historian is such an amazingly valuable man in the factual understanding of slavery. We stopped it and continue to try to stop it in other countries. We give billions in aid to black nations. This is a brilliant interview.
"mainly because of CHRISTIAN views, the idea of owning other human beings as property began to be questioned on principle."
Slavery continued for an awful long time under Christianity, the bible does not condemn slavery but rather preaches that slaves be obedient to their masters and that masters in turn treat their slaves humanely. It wasn't until the age of enlightenment that the philosophies of reason began to truly change attitudes.
The Normans deserve a great deal of credit though. Around 10% of the English population were enslaved (thralls) during the Christian Anglo-Saxon period up until the Norman's invaded and abolished the practice. Always seemed weird to me that the prevailing narrative portrays the Anglo Saxons as tragic flaxen haired victims while the Normans are depicted as moustache twirling villains...
@@StuSaville Slavery persisted for such a long time because machines were not available to do certain jobs and slaves were cheap. A steam engine was invented by an Egyptian Greek in the 200's (?) BC, but not developed because slaves were readily available.
Saxons wore moustaches and Norman's were clean shaven, even shaving the nape of the neck. Real buggers those Normans, besides slavery they did genocide too with their" harrying of the North".
@@peterbarkworth951 Ah... and then there were people who lived near Hadrian's Wall... caught between the hammer and the anvil.
@@Nyet-Zdyes Yes, the Borderers and if you want to know about them, read "The Steel Bonnets" or a history book about Flodden.
Ah those were the days.... that make me glad I live in 2023.🙂
@@peterbarkworth951 I've read it.
Some of my ancestors come from the area. I wish I'd known that, because when I visited the Newcastle-upon-Tyne area, because a few of them asked if I was related, and I just didn't know, yet.
The arab traders were still slightly active down the coast of East Africa, including Mozambique and Tanzania and into Malawi (then Nyasaland), until the end of the first world war. The pioneers sent by Rhodes to Zimbabwe and Zambia witnessed this , one Major Forbes for example , wrote of what he saw in an expedition, and did their best to intercept the caravans. The Brits finally stopped it after taking Tanzania (Tanganyika) which had been a German colony , in ww1, but where the Germans weren't particularly active in stopping it (turning mostly a blind eye to what was still going on in a limited way in the sticks). Mozambique under the Portuguese were similarly lackadaisical. But,I stress this was in a limited area .
Well, by the time Germany was founded and started colonizing, most of the BEST colonies were already taken. Guess they weren't willing to rock the U-boat, if you will.
@@GregBrownsWorldORacing 😄
Didn’t realise it was still active in East Africa quite so late, but it’s no surprise. When Stanley was searching for Livingstone in 1870 he came across several slave caravans but his expedition was far too weak to take the slavers on. I can imagine a similar party of Germans with maybe a handful of native askari soldiers in the 1910s feeling too weak to intervene. It must have been the petrol-engine vehicle that made the difference.
@@sirrathersplendid4825 yup. Found Forbes's account in an old BSA Company Government Gazette.
@@sirrathersplendid4825David Livingston, the missionary, was a thorn in the sides of the Arab slave traders in East Africa. Before Christianity came to Africa, tribesmen were resigned to being taken as slaves by Arabs or other Africans. When Christianity gave them some feeling of their own individual liberty, they fought back. This, more than any other factor, diminished the slave trade on the East side.
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Using the excuse that "slavery was worldwide" doest change the EVIL of it.
Especially in a country that supposedly stood for FREEDOM, the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,etc.
EXACTLY. This is a COMMON refrain/trick to absolve America of its hypocrisy and debt owed. The absurdity of these excuses is comical.
Certain people don’t want to hear this stuff.
They can’t conceive of it.
The oldest known statute of Croatian medieval commune is the statute of Korčula from the year 1214. On January 27, 1416 Dubrovnik adopted the abolition of slavery, which was the first case of its kind in Europe.
William the Conqueror abolished slavery in England after the conquest in 1066. Look it up.
@@jasonwhite7677 did he? I found "While there was no legislation against slavery, William the Conqueror introduced a law preventing the sale of slaves overseas." (I did not follow the citations to the original sources though).
@@panda4247 you are correct, but the law William introduced also placed a tax on slave ownership, payable to him personally. Whether this tax was intentionally designed to end slavery in England, that was the final result. Within a few short years there were no slaves in his kingdom and it remained that way for millennia until they discovered sweatshops full of them in Leicester a few years ago. And the occasional Indian household containing one or two of their lower caste countrymen. Now there’s probably millions across Britain.
I've spent decades telling people these things.....
Thank you for spreading the truth.
The majority of human history slavery was the normal.... It doesn't make it right, but it is a fact.
Almost every race had slaves with the majority of slaves being sourced from the very population owning the slaves...
As a progression of warped morality it became more acceptable to have 'others' as slaves instead of your own group.
Slaves are still being sold today.
My opinion is that the sin of slavery only resides with owners and slavers.
Redemption is obtained by participation of the elimination and prevention of slavery.
I do not believe that the sins of our fathers are ours
We are responsible for our own actions good or bad.
Yep, original sin in any form is illogical.
your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you, from them you
may buy slaves Leviticus 25: 44 NIV
"sourced form the very population owning the slaves"
So apparently the God of Abraham was ahead of his time.
@@reasonablespeculation3893 slavery predates the bible, and yet your example of taking slaves from outside your group exemplifies what I mentioned as "Warped Morality "
We should not own people born nor constructed.
I mentioned "constructed" specifically to cover self aware artificial intelligence (SAAI).
If we do not have machine people already, then we soon will.
We need to upgrade our morality and become better humans.
@@panamareg You bring up an interesting point about AI and owning robots who seem human. We'll need to decide this question soon enough
@@reasonablespeculation3893 The Book of Leviticus was not originally meant to apply to the general public: its laws were meant for the priests of the Temple, it describes the way things were, the coming of Jesus and his new covenant changed the law of God.
Every civilisation since the dawn of time has practiced slavery...
The Irish did!!! (I'm Irish, St.Patrick was a captured slave...) In turn, Irish people in the 17th Century (Baltimore) were enslaved by the Ottomans... Who also raided British costal towns and even settlements in what's now Iceland!!!
In pre-Columbian, (Aztec/Maya/Inca) America slavery was commonplace.
In pre-European Africa (all over that continent) slavery was a matter of course.
The Ancient Greeks had helots/slaves.
As did the Romans.
The Chinese had slaves, as did the Mughals in India and the Nipponese/Japanese.
The Ancient Egyptians held slaves. (Though they didn't build the Pyramids... Trained engineers did that, in the main...)
Non-Ottoman Arabia held slaves... (Up till the 1920s and after, indeed...)
RUSSIA had SLAVS, it's where we get the name 'slaves'...
BUT NOWADAYS IT'S ALL ABOUT THE TRANS ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE???
(It's like, "Hey, I've seen the TV Show 'Roots' and '"12 Years A Slave" so I'M AN EXPERT!!!!!)
Maybe not?
No European person EVER went to 'raid slaves' in Colonial Black Africa... (Not once...) They didn't have to... (Slaves were traded to Europeans by African Tribes or peoples who already practiced slavery...)
EVENTUALLY it was THE BRITISH who said, "Actually, let's re-think this..."
(NOT the Belgians, the Dutch, The Portugese, the Germans, the Spanish OR ANYONE ELSE!!!!)
Only the British...
In fairness, when THE BRITS decided that SLAVERY was an inhuman idea, they OUTLAWED IT!!!
But, in doing THAT they compensated THE FUCK out of former slave owners... (Didn't give the 'ex-slaves' a penny!!!) Most had to sign back on for minimum wage... (They still PUT THE IDEA ABOUT that slavery was WRONG!!!) Europe got that in the end. Most Euro Nations followed. Eventually, (after a Civil War, so did North America...)
But you know?
History was sometimes really shit...
But this modern idea of 'REPARATIONS'??? (FROM who TO WHO????)
And WHY JUST THE DECENDANTS OF TRAFFICKED BLACK AFRICANS?????
(What about EVERYONE ELSE IN HISTORY WHOSE ANCESTORS WERE ENSLAVED???)
And WHY JUST the Negro People of Africa who were sent WEST, (ignoring the MILLIONS who were sent to the Muslim Empire in the East??? ALONG WITH CAUCASIAN SLAVES????) Many of those countries practiced slavery well into the 20th Century!!! (Some still do...) To this day...
Let's get real... Let's REFERENCE...
IF YOU THINK MODERN GERMAN PEOPLE OWE A CONSTANT DEBT BECAUSE OF THE HORRORS OF THE HOLOCAUST TO EVERY JEWISH PERSON ON THE PLANET THEN YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!! THEY DIDN'T DO IT!!!
(Likewise to decendents of people OF ANY COLOUR OR ETHNICITY whose ancestors were enslaved...)
Countries where ACTUAL SLAVERY STILL exists in 2023: India, Mauretania, South Sudan, Sudan, North Korea, Iran, Indonesia, China, Congo, Afghanistan, Ereteria, Burundi, Central African Republic, Pakistan and ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY other countries...
(NONE OF THEM WESTERN/EUROPEAN countries...)
If you are REALLY anti-slavery, stop fucking around in history books... (We've all got a story... Get over it...) Reperations my Irish arse... (HOW DARE YOU!!!)
LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!!!
And do something about that.
xx SFR
Well said, Steve.
All civilizations knew slavery. But only one abolished it.
"Upper Canada" (Ontario) as it then was, had effectively abolished slavery around 1800. It became the terminus of the Underground Railroad.
During the American Revolution, the Brits offered passage to, and land in, Nova Scotia, to blacks who were able to escape their slave masters and fight with them. They did, however, face tough times and discrimination in N.S. Black loyalists in Upper and Lower Canada fought with the British / Canadian side against the American invasion in 1812, defending their new homelands.
Interesting. Looking forward to the full show . ❤
it's already out their, I watched it a couple of months ago.
Young people today need educating by people like this man.
Well done Brits!
❤️❗️
Wait, you mean to tell me that one particular race doesn't get to monopolize the victim card over slavery?
Why yes, the root word of slavery is Slav. If done properly, the reparations maybe first should be paid to Belgrade. Oddly enough, that's not very fkkin likely.
Or the villain card ?
... but SOME of them sure WANT to...
@@GregBrownsWorldORacing - Hmm, initially Belgrade perhaps, but in more recent times, Kiev. From the 14th century onwards the Tatars were shipping vast numbers of Russian, Ukrainian and Polish slaves out to the Turkish empire through the port of Kaffa on the Crimea.
New Orleans had a large community of free blacks and many of them owned slaves. If not for Great Britain and the United States slavery would not have ended till many decades later than it did.
Some people use slavery as a club to constantly beat people that had nothing to do with it.
You are too kind, they use slavery as a club to demonize the only cultures that ever spoke out against it or acted to eradicate it.
What should be among Britains most proud achievements is being demonised.
it literally made the title of Great Britain entirely appropriate and I am proud of my ancestors for taking the moral stand and backing it up with incredible resources and effort.
I heard the the general, very poor, population, would seek out goods not made by slaves to encourage the change…cotton from Southern USA for example was boycotted and more expensive cotton bought.
wait. is he saying white people didn't invent slavery?
No he is not.
HISTORY is saying that.
BLACKS invented slavery in the earliest known records and guess who they kept for slaves? JEWS and WHITES and CHINESE. Thing is though black cultures were not great when it came to recording their history at the time as we were here.
They just made it up from memory with a tonne of bias later on, meaning guys like you don't even know the fact of history that it was BLACKS who invented slavery and WHITES who fucked it up so bad it will never recover.
Again, don't see any black cultures ever having done that! And neither would we expect them or anybody else to! IT WAS OUR THING WE DID.
No, but you are saying you are a racist though.
@@ScandinavianHeretic How so? Slavery has never been about racism btw. And i'm curious, who do you think captured and sold the slaves in Africa? that's right, Africans did.
@@ScandinavianHeretic No dude he's just sick of the narrative.
@@BertisAU Fine, let the narrative go and stop talking about people as though their skin color had any meaning.
Slavery was about 💰 not about colour! Stop cherry picking bits of history to paint a distorted picture❗️I am SO proud to be British❗️🇬🇧
Did you know that the word slave derives from the Latin word sclāvus, which means "slave"? This is because during the Middle Ages, numerous empires and cultures frequently seized, sold, and forced into slavery Slavs, a group of ethnic peoples who largely inhabit Eastern Europe. Slavery was (and still is) a universal issue; at the moment, between 30 and 40 million people worldwide are believed to be living in modern slavery, which takes many different forms, including forced labor, human trafficking, debt servitude, and child exploitation.
A few weeks ago I believe it was the WHO that said they estimate there are 67 million people in slavery, not 'servitude' which is a lesser state of being, but SLAVERY. I should have been paying more attention to that short blurb on the news-but I'm pretty sure the announcer said WHO.
There's one useful rule to remember -- when you don't have any idea about something, just shut up.
In slavic languages, there's a word for slave -- 'rob'. That word is used to create an another well known word -- 'robot'. I don't think that there's anyone from a slavic countries who whould think that someone from the west with a name Rob or Robert is actually a slave. It looks that they are not so stupid. Or that maybe the Slavs are probably the only ethnic group that never had slaves or knew slavery in any form.
Slavery was always about subjugation of various groups.The stronger group always won out.Race wasn’t really involved to a great degree until the transatlantic slave trade and that was more dependent on availability and convenience than pure race.
The only reason we have the grifters with their sights set on reparations is because we are weak & wracked with guilt - NOT because we were any worse than anyone else as this chap eloquently explains. The answer is just to grow a pair as a nation & shrug the grifters off elsewhere.
exactly!! they're taking liberties, because we're letting them
This isn't new information. This is knowledge we received in history class back in 5th or 6th grade in Norway. Detailes changes as we get more information but the basic information has been taught repetietley through 10th grade in history and other societal studies. Were we the only ones who learned this? It seems to be news for the majority when viewing all the podcasts about this subject
It seems new because of all the spin most media puts on these issues, never mentioning the history
I learned it in American high school as well.
Good points, but it should also be noted that early objections to the slave trade came from the American colonies, primarily due to the concerns of the leading men of Virginia (though the Quakers in Pennsylvania had raised the issue even earlier). Britain forcing the slave trade on the colonies was one of the objections to British rule made in the Declaration of Independence. To their credit, the British took the point to heart.
Unfortunately, the Virginians then had to deal with the fact that they had a large number of slaves in their midst who, for various reasons, were not well prepared to be made free.
The U.S. outlawed participation of U.S. citizens in the trans-Atlantic slave trade in the first decade of the 19th century, but unfortunately it was found impossible to find a jury willing to convict those who did so in Massachusetts and Connecticut where most of the slavers operated from. They continued to flout the law until 1861.
Didn't most of the founding fathers own slaves? Mr Washington certainly did, while the British freed any slaves they came across during the war of independence, and transported them to Liberia if they wished, think your looking at American history threw rose coloured glasses
In addition to the Naval blockade of slave ports and the taking of ships involved in the slave trade, which cost a large portion of the British economy and 1,000s of lives, how many treaties, how much compensation, what battles were fought with the African and Muslim slave trading cities and empires to compel and force them to end slavery? Another point, is that when Britain passed laws freeing slaves throughout its empire the payment of compensation to British slave owners in the New World, enabled them to transfer from a slave economy to an apprenticeship/labour economy.
Excellent video.
Slave narratives were hugely influential, though they're mostly forgotten today. It has been argued that slave narratives helped shape the modern novel, Robinson Crusoe being a link between the two. If you haven't, check out White Gold by Giles Milton. Terrific read.
In 1833 the British Empire took out loans to purchase and free all the slaves within their Empire...British taxpayers finally paid off those loans in 2014. No one else in the world took such measures so why are Anglo Saxon people primarily condemned for slavery? No good deed goes unpunished?
You just know that in 2033 there's going to be another massive call for apologies and reparations, when we should celebrate the anniversary of abolishing slavery.
It would be honourable if we could stop the slavery still being carried on in many countries today
On 27 January 1416 the Dubrovnik Republic abolished slave trading and became one of the first in Europe to do so… The decision to abolish slave trading was found in Dubrovnik's old statutes. Slavery was a legally recognised system in which people were legally considered the property or chattel of another.
300 years before denmark
But my victim points, only blacks was slaves, gimme reparations! - i despise this kind of mentality
Yeah but dey ain't blacks.
That means they're too racist to be giving a shit about them :)
- _Every moronic racist non white ever_
I have never heard only black was slaves
@@KemetledAfrica In US, slavery was "racist" and it seems Black America who think themselves are the only victim of slavery, that's why they demand reparation money.
Slaves were considered livestock. So, I can easily see how people who accepted slavery as an institution, would find it unacceptable to abuse slaves. Most cattle ranchers want their cattle to be well treated and would decry anyone who would abuse their cattle.
(making a note of this for writing and world-building)
Now they're considered as surplus so white people in Dam Erikkka have no problems murdering a woman's child in a heartbeat
@D-Bunker-zv1bjlmao kys that clearly wasn’t the point of his comment
Truth is a slave was worth something.
A free serf was worth nothing.
@D-Bunker-zv1bj No one is saying it isn't.
Almost 90% of all black slaves taken to China died.
The Chinese would nor take " blue men" unless they had their testicles and penis removed.
Not many survived the butchery.
Arabs just required the testicles of black slaves removed so they couldn't breed.
Do some reading from source testimonies.
Before slavery was invented defeated enemies werde eaten. After the invention of agriculture and farming they stayed alive because their work was a value. After the invention of steam engines slavery became obsolete.
The long and short of it is, industrial capitalism is the greatest liberating force in history, simply because free labor is vastly more productive than slave labor.
What he has to say would have a much greater impact if he was a better speaker. Many academics minimize the importance of their knowledge because they are such poor communicators. Many university professors are very adept at putting their students to sleep. Um,ah,hmmm,um,ah,ah,ah.....etc etc etc
If the Egyptians were black as they insist on claiming, does that mean Jews can get reparations?
I have a better questions. How do you think it was, a Jew Moses was indistinguishable from Egyptians? 😂 You know the Egyptians were malinated, stop kidding yourself.
@@halbleavy9900 Jew Moses was indistinguishable from Egyptians because they were both an olive skinned Mediterranean colour?
@@jonathanjonathan7386 No, I'm afraid not. Moses pre-dates Greek's on the African Continent.
@@halbleavy9900 indeed, but why are u so sure the egyptians were not themselves beige coloured?
@@jonathanjonathan7386 Because they left their images on the walls. Why are you sure they're beige? Look at Tutankhamun's Burial Chamber.
Physical slavery has been abolished but mental slavery still exists.
Coorporarions, governments, religions , cultures still treat masses as sheep and resist any form of change...
Hence we shouldn't be flattered entirely that we live in a free world.
Emancipation unadulterated is still elusive
Not a single person that needs to watch this video will watch it.
Thomas Sowell has spoken to this as well saying same thing and if you do not know who he is look him up and watch some of his interviews
Smartest man in america- while being older than Sleepy Joe- but still sharp as a hypodermic needle.
2:45 and you should add, this is before machinery. Something we take for granted. Washing machines, child care, sustainable crop maintenance, animal husbandry, all laborious tasks before machinery... people did everything by hand. You raise a large family and have slaves to survive before modern infrastructures were created... through tons of labor before the industrial revolution.
Thanks to explain history facts so clearly. Greetings from Italy.
I have British ancestry on my mother's side and I speak for all of my ancestor's countrymen when I say "What can I say except your welcome"
Welcome for what?..
I think that's meant to be a joke but I think you've made an error in there somewhere because it actually doesn't seem to make a whole lotta sense...
He means you're welcome you're free today.
You are brainwashed. I pity you.
'you're' not 'your'
The fact that there's been slavery through the ages does not make the western slave trade and institutionalised racism any better. People who became slaves have no blame for whatever others had done. The southern states of the USA lived and prospered on the horrible abuse, mistreating and murder of black African slaves. It was horrible. Even more horrible is that they built an ideology around it. And they still wave that racist flag.
talk about who owned the slave ships. Talk about who were the Portuguese’. They weren’t just any old Portuguese. Talk about who were the slave traders at both ends. Talk about the fact that over 90% of all slaves went to South America.
If you watch Latinos at American Universities - they call white people Colonisers - totally unaware that they were the first and most brutal Colonisers!
The first Synagogue in the new world was built in the first big slave trading outpost in Brazil, Recife. For the first 100 years or so the intercontinental slave trade was a Jewish monopoly and only after they saw how rich those Jewish family businesses got, did non-Jewish trading companies move in on the business and slowly pushed them out.
I remember seeing a Jewish stand up comedian in the early 2000s doing basically a whole set about how ludicrous the idea was that Jews had anything to do with slavery. It was basically one "Hey, I might be white, but I am Jewish and we had nothing to do with slavery and all the other evil shit those other whites were doing! We're the good whites!"-joke after the other.
It was especially funny (not in the sense that comedian intended it to be) because it was around at the same time when the "Blood Diamonds" movie with Leonardo DiCaprio was in theaters. That movie, written and produced almost exclusively by Jews, made white, tall blond Europeans with German and Dutch accents the evil villains behind the blood diamond trading business, even though in reality the diamond business is more dominated by and firmly in Jewish hands than the bagel and gefillte fish business.
@Simoon Tempest By the same casts.
None of that is actually true fact though. Which I suppose is why you neglected to supply any sources....
What a load of rubbish .... Who took the slaves to the Caribbean ? It wasn't the Portuguese 🤯
The point is our ethics have changed. We cannot judge our children for their ignorance any more than we can judge our ancestors for their ignorance.
Nothing ethical, on a fundamentally basic level, about indoctrinating children with outright lies.
What he says about the true history of slavery is spot on!
I just realized something interesting with regard to slavery. When slavery is discussed, the topic of slavery in Asia: China, Manchuria,, Joseon, etc..is never, ever mentioned. Or the current one between the Middle East and India
Partly because they’re not demanding reparations
People will not listen to facts if they don't suit their cause.
And that guy only skimmed the surface of the matter.
5 facts straight from Jamaican that Europeans are never told.
Fact 1 Arabs enslaved Saharan Africans as slaves as early as the 7th century
Fact 2 Europeans got the idea and logistical methods and means from said Arabs.
Fact 3 English folks used to use the Irish as slaves long before South Saharan Africans.
Fact 4 when the English started used South Saharan Africans they were worth more than Irish due to the hardiness and malleability.
Fact 5 South Saharan Africans sided with the Europeans to enslave their rivals. No love lost their.
I think Africans handled the climate better than Irish/white slaves. The plantations were in warm climates because that is where the cash crops thrived.
Wrong on #4.
@@robertsettle2590You say wrong with no counter argument. 😆🤦🏿♂️
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You've created a society of people over centuries through endless enslavement or at best indentured servitude. What would happen if you did that to animals you'd call that domestication right.
Which = malleable
Fact 3 - When the Romans left Britain, the Gaelic Tribes of Ireland filled the void by pillaging the Island for sl aves.
Dublin was started by the Danish and Irish, as the start of the journey for British sl aves who were then taken onto the Mud slim markets to be sold.
@@garyphisher7375 I don't know where you're going with this. It maybe true but doesn't take the takeaway from the point the English used the Irish as slaves in the long before any Africans.