How GOOD was Marowak ACTUALLY? - History of Marowak in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 1-7)
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
- Marowak! The Bone Keeper Pokemon! Marowak uses its thick bone club to bash its enemies but is that enough in competitive play? Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Marowak in competitive Pokemon!
IMPORTANT for 2:22 in the video: We may have been unclear in our description on how Marowak's attack stat can reset if it goes past 999 after 1 swords dance. What we mean is that, if the attack DVs are higher than 13, on swords dance variants of Marowak, using swords dance will result in going past 999 and resetting the attack value to around 5 or so, resulting in very low damage. This means, the highest attack DV a Swords Dance Marowak can have is 13.
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0:00 - Intro
0:41 - RBY/Gen 1
1:43 - GSC/Gen 2
7:30 - ADV/Gen 3
10:08 - DPP/Gen 4
11:22 - BW/Gen 5
12:03 - Gen 5 VGC
12:46 - XY/Gen 6
13:03 - Gen 6 VGC
13:44 - SM/Gen 7
15:49 - VGC Gen 7
17:36 - Outro
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DISCLAIMERS ON FORMATS COVERED:
Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
To the people asking why I don't cover Smogon Singles for Gens 1 and 2: It wouldn't really be a history video if I covered those because online Smogon gen 1 meta to my knowledge wasn't actually played until late 2000s. I wanted to cover tournaments/competitive battling that was actually played during the early years of Pokemon (late 90s).
To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon was the most popular format for Gens 3-5 and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Battle Spot Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent and I will not fault you for using evasion or whatever, I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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I know absolutely nothing about competitive Pokemon, I just love hearing this dude talk.
I actually got into competitive thanks to this guy lol
@@george9371 me too
@@_Agnos wow me three
Same
mood
"But perhaps one day, it will return to the spotlight" Poltergeist time
Aaaannnnd its not really used anymore after the hype. Still good on trick room teams but it was in gen 7 too. trick room teams are just a bit gimmicky to be seen as legitimate
@@wumbology72 the main problem is that most of pokemon with Poltergeist learn also trick room and are pretty slow
But the really big problem is that their isn't any object like heat rock to extend the duration of trick room
So it's the only gimmick team that only last 5 turn, even for terrain it can last 8 turn!!
@@jambon2730 5 turns is a lot longer in Doubles than Singles, so maybe it’s gonna be good there
"Marowak's attack missed!"
Itemless slowbro gang
Marowak's EQ is one of my favorite animations from Stadium, it just fits too well the bone hitting while the ground shakes.
not to mention beedrill's hyper beam
it comes outta his rear stinger
@@flatziswashed Beedrill's stinger of pain (only used when necessary or it just wants to use hyper beam for the luls)
I just saw it. You're right it's amazing
Other Gen 7 OU Teams: Bad slow sweeper
Trick Room Teams: *It’s free real estate*
Thick Club Marowak was like a Mega Evolution before Mega Evolutions were a thing. When given a Thick Club, Marowak's maximum Attack is 568 (higher than Mega Mewtwo X's 526 or Mega Heracross's 515). For a Pokemon to have a maximum Attack that high without an item or some other boost, they would have to have base 209 Attack. So the Thick Club essentially increases Marowak's base Attack by 129, which is larger than the +100 boost to stat total given by Mega Evolutions.
Ever since I was a kid, Marowak has been my favourite Pokemon. All thanks to that episode that featured Marowak and that Samurai guy who had lost their badges.
RainbowNoodleWarrior tears 😭 up god what a flashback
ME TOO!! I loved how it would use its bone club like a samurai sword.
@@alicekingston7873 "samurai sword" i believe it has a name
@@redjaygaming9757 wakizashi, odachi, tachi, uchigatana, daito, since I'm not super familiar with japanese swordplay (or iadio in general) I went with a very generic term.
Someone else remembered I always wanted to see marowak evolve into a twin blade using a broken bone maybe even dripping marrow
It's worth mentioning that Lightning Rod Alolan Marowak is tied with Rotom-H as the second non-Steel-type Pokémon with the most resistances/immunities. Both take less than normal damage from 10 types, behind Shedinja's 13.
That's super interesting, I never knew that
Also shedinja has wonder guard
@@Ob1tuber Yes, that's why it has 13 damage immunities...
Shedinja with focus sash doesn't take damage on first turn
@@sammyjammy8709 Unless you toxic it.
I find it very amusing that Game Freak made Marowak the most physically strong attacker in gen 2, and also made its 3D model do bicep curls as an idle animation.
“Marowak comes from bone-chilling orgins.”
God dammit FSG
-God dammit False Swipe Gaming- I have a bone to pick with you False Swipe Gaming
Oh come on it is a good pun
@@Ob1tuber We know
I'd name mine Littlefoot.
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Your videos are very popular not because people are super interested in competitive Pokemon but because you're great at translating your knowledge
yup, never played competitive pokemon or even more than maybe 10 matches with friends in the early gens, but I still find this stuff somehow interesting lol
To each there own. I actually am very interested in the competitive scene of interesting pokemon, especially my favorites
I just like pokemon and his video are straightforward.
Too many channels dance around the subject too much.
He does an amazing job explaining all the important things in a clear and concise way, without skimming over too much information and while not being condescending about it. Too many competitive players from any game can get pretty smug, but I think there's a good balance of people like this who's a great fountain of information.
I am still interested in competitive play, I just don’t find much time for it anymore due to the endless breeding.
Marowak would literally be the Mamoswine in revenge killing if it got _Shadow Sneak_
I forgot alolan marowak existed and just "wh,,yyy, would-"
@@liaminator4950 Lavender Town lol Only dead Marowak learn Ghost-type moves
Dont forget pokemon insurgence ,complete with mega marowak where it learns shadow sneak
How HARDEN was Metapod actually?
Nonsense. Metapod is already a strong pokemon, it's just misunderstood. Take Ash's Metapod for example.
*THIS IS A MEME FREE ZONE*
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM POSTING OR VOTING FOR MEME PICKS
@@Dankyjrthethird says u ,pepe boi
Its hardness is maximum.
Kakuna hardens a lot more >:)
The following Pokémon have already been analyzed:
Aerodactyl
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Slowbro
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Snorlax
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Suicune
Swampert
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Venusaur
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Zapdos
Please vote on Pokémon that are NOT seen on this list for FalseSwipeGaming’s next analysis (not "analytic") video.
This needs to pinned on all his videos
Good Bot
Stfu
Dang we have been doing this for a while
This is a good comment
I feel like Marowaks intended gimmick in Gen 1 was to use Focus Energy and then Bonemerang, but Focus Energy literally didn't work.
It works in Stadium, but Marowak is just too damn slow. Sandslash hits harder with Swords Dance can at least outspeed things besides Snorlax/Slowbro.
Not to mention it's slow as molasses
Funny you mention Focus Energy Marowak; that was the exact strategy of the "Character of the Day" where his Marowak used a combination of Focus Energy and Bone Club to beat Ash's Bulbasaur...before losing to Pikachu's Thunderbolt because the anime writers still mistook Ground-Type's Electric immunity for being on the Rock-Type...
@@GIR177 and it has a terrible movepool
Unusable in uu In gen 1. In nu. Sandslash and Golem existed
I love how rock head is basically a perfect ability to a-marowak toolkit. yet generally lightning rod is prefered
shows how flexible the game is
Rock head is much better flare blitz and another strong recoil move i cant remember
@@SaimBinHassanRizvi I usually used rock head but there's no doubt that lightning rod had it's uses. The amount of times I was able to switch in to tapu koko with a-wak was insane
@@patrickstar8132 now if only lightning rod boosted attack for marowak instead lmao
@@starduststriker8792 oh yea then it would really deter thunderbolts and volt switches lol.
Give marowak head smash game freak
The Marowak story doesn’t make me cry. It was the sick and dying Stoutland that always brings a tear to my eye. My last dog couldn’t get up and he shit himself and we had to put him down. I wanted to bawl my eyes out and I didn’t care who heard or what people were thinking about me. I loved that beast so much.
David Cappadoccia screw the marowak story, and screw the stoutland story. Your story made me ball my eyes out!! Lol
wait what are you talking about whats up with stoutland
@@shady8045 I believe it as something about the anime, where a rogue Litten was going around town, stealing food for a sick very old Stoutland that was basically like a father to Litten. It´s the Litten that joins Ash later on.
Both the Stoutland story and your dog story are sad,i just had to have my old boxer freedom put down because she was getting cancer all over her ;-;
@@The-Man-of-Pepsi :/
I won't cry... No, I won't shed a tear. Nooooooooo
This world is sad, honestly. But... gotta keep daydreaming it'll stop being that some day, I guess. Too bad it's a fool's hope, and that we'll all be long gone then even if it does.
I also hope we humans will stop making each other's life harder too, but... pfft.
I'll tell you: *Marowak was OVER POWERED* in the literal definition of the word.
(Except I'm talking about the Mystery Dungeon games where Bonemerang and Bone Rush were Multi-hit moves, which were OP in PMD. Not to mention the fact that ground moves could hit flying types too.)
DBZMacky first time I played the game I was pikachu. Aweful time. Then I was treeko and bullset seed was how win boss fights. Multi hit attacks aren't for fucking around
I still have nightmares with delcaty's doubleslap in that ho oh dungeon.
smh, you guys speak of PMD nightmares without mentioning Agility + Ominous Wind/Silver Wind?
@@dancingfuriously reading that gave me ptsd thank you sir
Prince Lyon you: moves one step
Game playing as 40 other pokemon: *TIME TO DO A THING*
How GOOD was Tangela & Tangrowth ACTUALLY?
I want my blue spaghetti to finally get an episode! I'm begging you, and the viewers too!
Hey that's my line! But Yeah!
How GOOD was Tangela and Tangrowth ACTUALLY?
It's Shiny is moldy spaghetti
I thought Tangela was so cool in gen 1. Shame it wasn't that useful imo.
OMG DUDE
I’ve been requesting Tangrowth for so many vids now!
Tangrowth in my opinion has one of the most surprising performances as a competitive tank.
I literally just found this series like 1 hour ago as of writing this, and now I must watch them all. Because as a adult who grew up playing the pokemon games but never aware of the competitive side until X & Y this history stuff is absolutely fascinating
Do you still remember this?
@@DavideKuras Heck yeah, I still watch this series to this day :D
About the origin of Marowak and where the creators got him from, I have some valid thought. Marowak sounds a lot like "Sarawak", which are tribes that live in the jungles of Borneo. Their customs include headhunting (taking the skulls of prey and enemies), which explains the skull on Marowaks head. Borneo was invaded by Japan during WWII, and the Sarowak warriors reportedly fought ferociously, and also practiced headhunting on Japanese soldiers. This may give evidence for the origin of Marowak, as Nintendo is a Japanese company after all.
How GOOD was Magmar/Magmortar ACTUALLY?!
The Vengeful 'Vadam or venomoth.
How GOOD was Regirock ACTUALLY?
Yes please.
Then we can do Electabuzz/Electivire ACTUALLY?!
Magmar has always been one of my favs. Useless, but I love it.
*How GOOD was Ninetales ACTUALLY?*
*I WILL NEVER GIVE UP*
Then give down
Ninetales! Gaah sorry but I hate that misspelling. 😅
I agree, this needs to be looked at.
People need to know that it's Ninetales not Ninetails.
It's my favourite Pokemon, and I've always spelled it right.
nine separate stories of power, not nine rectal appendages.
Really? I thought it was Neintails
It should be Ninetails!
@@ShadowtheRUclipsr523 no.
I'm actually impressed. I love my boy Marowak but always thought he was just not great. Glad to see that he had a few moments where he really shined in the competitive scene!
How GOOD was ELECTABUZZ/ELECTIVIRE !!!! its time for us to stick together!
Looks like Ninetails is next, looking at the comments. But pls. PLS.
*HOW GOOD WAS GOLEM ACTUALLY*
GOLEM!!!! NOW!!!!
the videos about the old pokemon always feel so depressing because they are just not what they used to be.
metroidfannumber1 we need restats and move upgrades before anything else really
Marowak at least seemed used to not being the best once power creep showed up...
Well to be fair marowak wasn't very good in gen 1 anyways so it's pretty much still the same.
Sadly sorta inevitable that the old stuff gets phased out unless they receive an upgrade in some way (Mega, ability, moves etc.) . More pokemon to catch means more pokemon/moves that could potentially do what they do better or counter them, which leads to them being replaced or forgotten.
Unless their name is Chansey
Another amazing video. So much work and devotion goes into these, really impressive. Keep it up!
How Good was NINETAILS actually?
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It sucked.Until Gen 5 but it still sucked they just used it because it summoned sunny day.
@@chinafangirl4879 😑
He became Hokage
I knew someone would follow my idea.
How GOOD was Ninetales ACTUALLY?
Marowak is amazing in trick room teams. I used a Brave natured lightning rod Marowak in the Battle Tower Double challenge in HGSS along with Gyarados, Bronzong, and Spiritomb, and I got a 92 win streak. His moves are Earthquake, Rock Slide, Low Kick, and Protect. His Earthquake doesn't affect Gyarados, Bronzong with levitate, and Spiritomb had protect to block Earthquake.
DO NOT CALL MAROWAK A HE!
@@Amelia4111 Amelia you've made a mistake. Exile's marowak was a male. So exile will call marowak a he.
I'd love to see you cover Ninetales, especially since it too has an Alolan variant.
How *GOOD* was *Tangela/Tangrowth* ACTUALLY?!
Speed Boost me to the top friends!!!
Too many ninetales spammers :/
I think this video has the first mention of Sandslash. It's nice to see him finally get some screen time but can we get a full video on him please?
I've been loving my Marowak in Sword/Shield. It's been a solid choice for my Gen 1 Trick Room Team.
I’ve asked for this for awhile and I’m so happy it’s finally here. Thank you FSG,thank you.
I am so happy to see this. this is one I have been requesting for a long time now!
I like the idea of a Ghost and Fire type, that actually sounds wicked!! 😀
Great Video! 😀👍👍
How GOOD was Electabuzz/Electavire ACTUALLY?
I will never stop until it‘s done!
How GOOD was Ditto ACTUALLY?
Cubone has always been my #1 favorite, it was so cool to see this vid!
Before I heard that Thick Club works for Alolamak too, I ran it with Air Baloon. 4 immunities is dope.
How short was Ninetales' time in the sun actually?
Exactly one generation
sunn day teams in th generations when its abilit created permanent weather,
Or hail
1 or 2 turns if youre not dead on the first
I think Bonemerang should hit Flying types and Levitating mons if it already doesn't.
Yes it should
It absolutely should.
Ninetales!
How diddly darn *GOOD* was Persian *ACTUALLY,* neighborino?
That's the Spirit 🐱! Make sure to upvote and comment on other comments voting for Persian!
🐱🐱🐱💚💚
How GOOD was Electabuzz/ Electivire ACTUALLY?
They sucked. Saved you a 30 minute video.
Shut up Asshole !
How GOOD was Electabuzz/ Electivire ACTUALLY?....Great idea I love it !
Why are you going to every single comment asking for this and responding with this. Do you have something against them?
There are several other Pokemon that deserve recognition over Electabuzz and Electivire that were relevant for one whole generation.
great job on the video☺
I played the game when it first came out and loved the in-game story with marowak.
How good was ninetails ACTUALLY
How good was Persian!
LETS GO KITTY SQUAD!!!!
Please!
That's the Spirit 🐱! Make sure to upvote and comment on other comments voting for Persian! Go KITTY SQUAD 🐱🐱🐱!
Even though I don’t know crap about PVP I just like hearing you talk on and on about my favorite Pokémon.
DUDE How good was Ninetails actually?
How good was Electabuzz and Electavire actually
Not very good
I‘m not gonna run out of videos to watch for a few months now that I keep adding these to my watch later.
Marowak’s Career
It’s been highs and lows for the bearer of bones. He’s had bones to pick with some metagames but he’s seen enough to be satisfied. Even his Alolan brethren consider him a respected warrior. All Marowak hopes is that his mother is proud of his efforts.
Give your writer a raise kellen, he leveled up
How good was Ninetails actually?
How good was Ninetails actually?
I don't remember any Pokémom called Ninetails...
(It's actual name is Ninetales)
I’d love to see you do absol next!!! Nice video too
truthfully i love the alolan form on my trick room squad just starting to get into competitive but trick room is still such a fun gimmick and marowak makes a hell of a sweeper at times
Fire & Ice: How GOOD was Ninetales ACTUALLY?
Sonic Boom Fire & Ice confirmed
M3rtyville Get out!
I love this videos so much. Also.
How good was Persian ACTUALLY??
I'm really interested in that Gen 2 stall team with Marowak and Snorlax. :D
How good was derpy *Farfetch’d* actually?!?! #derpsquad #iwillnevergiveup
Dude, Farfetch'd is not derpy, it's so powerful. I mean it is literally a duck THAT. FIGHTS. WITH. A. LEEK. A FREAKIN LEEK!
Thomeg Atherion Derpy doesn’t equal bad. Quagsire is the derp kingn and he is one hell of a wall.
For the Spring Onions!
Quite a fetching Pokémon if I do say so myself
Keegan Russ Yes indeed sir
How GOOD was Weezing ACTUALLY!?!?!?!?!?!?
asking the important questions!
been asking for a year sadly
It has like 3 exclusive attacks.
The ghost marowak is actually my gen 7 ace Pokemon when playing with friends. So thanks I like this.
How Good Was Ditto Actually?!
How good was ELECTIVIRE actually!?
I use flame charge on my alolan marowak . its really fun to see the opponent struggle at times
So glad you're making melee and smash content along with pokes
How good was Ninetales actually???
Let's do Pinsir next! I really wanna see the darn thing here!
Ah, the good'old Dickpinch.
I'm glad that mah boi Marowak found some usage in competitive affairs. I used Marowak last time I played through pokemon Y and it was actually quite useful as a ground type
Rock head + double edge while thick clubbed and swords dance is such a killer combo too
How Good was PERSIAN actually?!
How good was golem actually?
How GOOD was Ninetales ACTUALLY? - History of Ninetales in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 1-7)
Now lets see that Tangela / Tangrowth video next week ;)
How GOOD was Muk ACTUALLY?
Come on man I need this
How good was Scyther ACTUALLY?
He only did scizor
Ya but not with Scyther.
Ya but Scyther was not in it.
I am requesting it for a long time. Like
I love this channel. I see a new video, I just click and watch 👍🏽👍🏽
“One of the most unique Pokémon of all time.”
Moves: Earthquake, Rock Slide, Hidden Power, Swords Dance...
It is though no other Pokemon gains that type of power thru an item and if it does get a hit off it's one of the strongest Pokemon. Marowak and Medicham are sort of niche glass Cannons that can work really well in game but competitively they get outsped or killed by priority. It needs a stab priority move to work consistently.
Not to mention it has Bonemerang which is used over Earthquake because of its ability to break Substitutes
How good was Pidgeot ACTUALLY?
Not. That's how good it was. Not.
That's my line from 1year until now and I got not responding
shit.Why did The Pokemon Company gave it a mega?Cuz it was shit.
The two birds Geot and Row sucks and still sucked
How GOOD were Tangela and Tangrowth ACTUALLY?
Always loved Marowak. I use it on Pokemon Planet. Thick Club made it far too easy in almost any battle. As you pointed out, bonemerang hits twice for those pesky subs, I use rock head with double-edge for those flyers and that extra oomph, and finally false swipe for the most obvious reason.
Hey. Love your vids. Sandslash and Banette are two of my favourite Pokémon, any chance of a video on either of those?
Welp not Ninetales but this works too but...
How GOOD was Ninetales ACTUALLY???
How good was ninetails actually
I saw a magmar, and im super intrigued, so, magmar would be my interest
And now thanks to Poltergeist and Dexit, Alolan Marowak is damn near unwallable in OU. It is still dirt slow, but the opposing player has to sacrifice one of their Pokémon unless it’s like a max Defense Max HP Toxapex, but even then, Bonemerang or Earthquake
How good was the og birb itself. How good was pidgey actually.
I'm not giving up
Pigyguy or venomoth.
I never even knew Marowak was so good back in the day!
Now in sword and shield, alolam marowak is a fine trick room attacker
How good was Electabuz actually ?
How good was Ninetales ACTUALLY?!
Loved it
Glad that came up, now for Dodrio.
How good was Mamoswine actually?
Not giving up on this
They covered Mamoswine and Pilo a lot in this vid ruclips.net/video/gh0WY1wW5Nw/видео.html
What about Weezing?