Fun fact: Elastique, the pitch shifting algo that Reaper, Cubase, Studio One and FL Studio (among others) uses is made by zplane. They have some very smart people who are at the forefront in DSP development and progress.
Studio one don’t have that plug-in my boy I been on since V3 now on v6 and I have it because I bought it don’t come I’m with any pitch shifting , frequency shifting plug-in what’s so ever .
@@Cramz It's not a plug-in, it's an algorithm built-in to Studio One itself. Whenever you stretch an audio clip to fit the tempo it's using the Elastique algorithm to keep the pitch the same - no matter how much you stretch or compress the audio. You can switch to the "Tape - Resampler" algo, but that's more for getting a lo-fi effect. If you don't know about time stretching and pitch shifting in S1, here's a short video explaining it: ruclips.net/video/_eSrkuajbTw/видео.html
that guitar reverb example is one of the coolest things you’ve shown on this channel. really cool plugin and demonstration of what it’s capable of. thanks!
Unless your sounds are separated in the stereo field how would you isolate them if overlapping with other sounds? Your example is contrived to make the plugin look as if its useful. The affiliate link is not proof of your independence.
This plugin seems incredibly useful for situations where you need to isolate something and apply additional processing to the "selection". That won't be possible in many mixes, but this looks like a great tool to have in the toolbox. Really cool..
I've very rarely see a tool or plugin that I am in constant need of. This is a game changer. The amount of clients who have no access to their original projects but still need something lowered or boosted is astounding.
When I first got this I thought, hey, how about more than one isolation rectangles? Then I engaged brain and saw that using two or more instances on the split signals is the way to go… Great video by the way. Thanks.
I find this awesome to identify bursty issues in an audio file. There's lots of tools that can do the same, and more and more AI tools that will clean it up, but if I look at it through Peel beforehand, it helps me dial more targeted settings that I don't have the skills to 'hear' yet
I had Zplane deCoda first. A standalone program that was/is useful for instrument practise, enabling the isolation and susbstituting of parts for learning purposes. When PEEL came along, I grabbed that too. It doesn't get a whole lot of use in my rig currently, but it is a useful tool nevertheless. As you pointed out, you have to watch out for artefacts when there's not a lot going on to 'mask' them. Still good though 👍
There's value in simplicity. It takes most people weeks/months/years to really get to grips with how a certain 'simple' tool like a compressor, EQ, whatever,... works and behaves. The danger with product like this, is that it potentially brings people further away from understanding the fundamental essentials and jumping straight into spectral isolation etc. Don't get me wrong, it's fantastic that tools like this even exist, but there's always a certain learning curve you have to go through as an engineer (like with most jobs). We have to be aware there's a danger in tools like A.I. assistants, auto-leveler aids, etc. A fundamental understanding and experience of the basic principles of audio can't be bypassed by using a magic tool. I'm convinced it's easy for people to think that certain tools will solve their audio related issues, when in reality it's their lack of basic understanding and coming to grips with the fundamentals of audio that is the real problem. Tools like this can add to the confusion. Worst of all is that their marketing is mostly aimed at the widest possible audience, promising them a solution for their ignorance. This is just a general statement and by no means 'targeted' at Wytse or PEEL specifically.
I think all of this is a byproduct of lack of education. Which you can think of as a negative, but also as a positive, because it could mean that more new people are producing music and possibly having a lot of fun with it. If they spend money on this and have fun playing around, I don't see a problem. There are objectively much worse things you can do with your money to have fun.
It would be cool if you could do multiple boxes, each with it's own external routing, and also a mix control for each to set how much each box effects each section. Very nice plugin!
I guess you could export when you fix let say the guitar then open it again in a new template and now fix the 2nd part or 3rd but it would be much easier if you can do all that in one take. Very cool plug-in!! Great video too great job 👏🏽
This should be made with a built in exciter / suppressor so you can brighten and darken the harmonics/subharmonics above and below. That's a plugin I have always dreamed of. Also a rudimentary version of the magic rx highlighter with this capability would be insane. Edit: I appreciate everyone telling me that I can use my own exciters I did watch the video too, but it was a work flow recommendation. I still love yall though x
If you use this to seperate a part of the frequency spectrum/stereo field, you can add in any other plugin you like to do whatever you want with the sound. Some things will be missing though because you can't isolate things that are at the same place in the stereo field and in the same frequency range. I don't see how this is would be able to solve most mixing problems. Problems usually occur when instruments fight for frequencies. As long as they are not panned away from each other, you won't be able to isolate them.
Interesting tool! The best use I can think of is as a very precise and surgical denoiser, like if you have a stereo field recording, and you want to isolate a specific thing! I don't see a lot of use for it in production if you've still got the project file. Of course a much easier way to add some reverb to the guitar would be to... add some reverb to the guitar!
Boy! How I could have done with this on Scarlet & Blue, a restorative mastering project.This would have saved me so much time in post editing. I had to duplicate a track, EQ out everything below and above say the vocal or the guitar solo, add FX and processing, and then had to blend it back in to make it sound natural. This is far more accurate and a whole lot quicker! 😎
Personally I use spectralayers as it allows for even deeper processing, on individual phrases, you can separate different elements and add reverb to the end of a vocal phrase without touching anything else, removing noise etc
This sounds better than many of the "stem separation" stuff I've seen so far. This could actually be useful for learning songs, or perhaps recording a cover while removing the original part from the backing track. Your example of mastering projects with a suboptimal mix is also one that came to mind. This plugin seems to be pretty versatile.
Yes and no. It will work relatively good with this kind of songs that have a lot of air in between the instruments and where they have their own place in freq/stereo matrix, but it will not work as good with songs filled with more stuff and instruments overlapping each others.
@@creativeheadroom Yeah, me too. I'm a bit disappointed he didn't try this on boarder spectrum of music. I cannot be bothered to try myself the demo with just 5 mins of use time.
@@anteshell Yeah, 5min demo time is uselss. If the devs are willing to increase the time it can be used, I'll definitely check it out. If it works well, I'll buy it at this price. It's not very expensive and I see some good options for using this.
This plugin got bashed when it first came out. I never understood why . It’s useful! But the negative reviews made me not dig in. People got into the old “This old plugin does the same thing” thing. Well, I never heard of that “old plugin” so it’s news to me! Besides, a plugin + the creativity of the user makes all the difference in the world. I bet there are thousands of plugins that need a revisit. Especially if they’ve been updated. Love that song! Darude has a decent palette.
I got this. But unfortunately since the UI is missing screw holes it just dropped and bounced off the task bar and broke. So had to zip the license file and email it back.
It's been three months or more that I have taken a break entirely from Music Production,Audio Engineering and I won't be producing for the next one year It's totally a different feeling...I still watch your videos when I find some time...I really love your videos I still remember the first video I have watched...It was the Mastering Comparison between Izotope and other Platforms and It was really cool...
Not sure I'd use it for regular mixing (those artifacts are pretty over the top, I've heard better sounding 56kbps mp3s) but as a creative production and sound design tool there's so much potntial here, and the price is even fair! I've been doing MIDI transcriptions of classic breakbeats recently and I can tell this is a lot better than the tools I've been using.
I've had peel for a long time. The latency deterred me from using it more. It seemed to be best used for post-production. I'll try resampling or routing the signal to a different channel to see if that helps. Thanks for the review!
Zplane have been ahead of the game for years. In fact you probably already use their tech as it is licenced in other daws and plugins, especially if you've ever time stretched something.
I like it. Seems like they could just add a gate to it or something to tighten up the leaking background noises. But yeah, when you isolated and routed the lead guitar and then added the delay, a light bulb went off in my head. I needs that. You can take a boring section and add such variety to it by switching to the solo guitar, then bringing in the delay then bringing back the background with the delay. same section but now you have ear candy for the listener. Great for arranging.
Too many artifacts for me but I can see applications in correctional mastering. I really found the display the most interesting part as I found it easy to determine the frequency density better than a standard RTA/FFT display.
Super cool plugin for forensics and problem-solving. I see this as a good compliment to RX for nerdy stuff. One thing you didn’t try was creating two boxes at the same time. It must do that, right? I could see some uses for multiple boxes.
That is definitely a useful tool!........Your exercise of adding verb to gtrs could be used everywhere. So many possibilities. I've never had any of these isolation plugins, so I don't know how it stacks up to others. Very affordable too 😉👍
There was already something like this in old Cakewalk Sonar called R-Mix, it had an ellipse shape and rectangular shape and allowed you to shift the selection I think. Too bad the plugin is defunct and 32 bit only. But it did the same thing and sounded the same
this is just amazing. whoever said mastering engineers shouldn't try to fix mix problems was out of their mind. if you can help an element in a mix, do it. i'm buying this like...now. EDIT: HOW IS THIS $40
I did buy the ecoda from zplane but it sadly did not do what I thought it would do, it does work like ripx BUT you can't extract anything so it just analyse the notes and chords...so not sure if that peel is an useful tool for me
I feel like the only thing I’d use this for would be a remix. Just taking slices of the various frequency modulations could be fun though. For $39 it’s worth the risk. Thanks.
Hm.. I don't know man. This software isn't really that great if the elements in the song you're using isn't already clearly separated and divided in the first place. Which is the case in your example. To me it sounds like you make the claim that this plugin is some kind of real time LALAL.AI-replacement, which it's absolutely not. And it would NEVER fix anything even close to "every mixing issue". I'm having a real hard time wrapping my head around how you who is such a perfectionist could recommend something like this? I mean c'mon, It's just a "fancy" band pass filter in disguise. And beside this you say you're not affiliated with the creator, but still have an affiliated link to PB and PEEL in the description? 🙄 I mean I understand if you need to make money and need to do stuff like this, but can't you just be honest about it? This whole setup seems shady and deceptive and has actually changed my perception of you and you content. Which is a tad sad, I really like your stuff. /Jono from Sweden!
Yeah, Weaver Beats did a good review, in which he specifically calls out @whiteseastudio for this video and all the issues you mention. He really did shoot himself in the foot here, and I don't know if he can recover from it.
I honestly thought this was a sponsored video. I have a hard time believing he would have yielded the same results with the usual music he uses to test gear. I watch every video he uploads but this one doesn’t seem to pass the smell test.
It would be really cool as a problem finding tool if you could send it a whole mix and have it tell you what source tracks you are hearing the content from in the rectangle. Like sometimes, especially from a live recorded session or stage session, you are hearing some muddy rumble coming from somewhere and you have to go through a bunch of different tracks to find out that it's a bleed into one of the drum mics or a vocal mic or something. With a tool like this, you could easily and quickly find the problem sound and then find out which tracks its coming from to go and fix it properly.
Is the reason you didn’t use your usual track that it wouldn’t work with usual track? Is it possible that this really only works with this one track because the tracks are separated in a very odd way that makes them very separate and therefore separately addressable? This was unlike any other presentation I’ve seen you make, it seems deceptive. Please tell me I’m wrong because I follow you all the time. I know I’m wrong because I’ve seen a lot of your videos. I apologize for questioning you. But I’m convinced that the track used to demo the plugin shows the plugin in its very best light, and I can’t think of another track that places instruments this way in a stereo field. Thank you for what you do, and thank you for hearing me out. I’m 72, worked in the recording industry from the time I was 23, but as an arranger,not an engineer. I have learned so much from watching you. So again, thank you.
This is going to be vital for handling 2-tracks without the original stems as you said. Especially since you can fine tune selections, unlike a typicall track splitter algorythm. Sonible please take notes, lol.
Now I know! Just made a comment on Leland Sklars latest "Comparison" video where he says that's he who plays the bass on a new released song. The song was from 1973 and I did'nt know it was possible to "exclude" everyone else on the track and just single out one instrument. Wondering about copyright issues?
I bought this about 2 years ago and emailed the company then with my view that this could be a great "visual mixing" aid. But there is an issue, like say when 2 mono guitars are panned L&R. For some reason they smear visually across the middle. Below was my comments to them... _____ I bought PEEL 2 days ago and love it! However my main usage would be a "visual mix tool" to help me see where I place instruments and how I EQ them to have their own spaces as I create music. I was wondering if you can tell me if there is anything to learn from the dots. density etc? I'm a bit confused about how you made them work. First I hope you can develop it a bit more have an input dial or sensitivity slider. On weaker signals it will help to SEE whats going on better when I have a track solo'd etc. I turned up the gain going in... and that works for me, but of course it gave the actual music too much gain. I noticed when I panned hard left... 1 mono acoustic guitar, the visual signal was very nice and defined in one area of the X&Y field. However when I doubled that guitar and panned hard right... the two guitars blurred across the whole image with dots... making it LOOK like it does when I add reverb etc.. instead of what I expected to have two clear images of my tracks panned L&R. Is this intentional? It kind of messes up how I'd use the plugin. Is there any way in the future to have a Preference setting to choose clear images of mono instruments like that?
I recommend you take a look at the spectral analysis of the Bee Gees song Stayin' Alive. Stunning -sound engineering, and you can SEE it in the spectral domain! incredible. just incredible
Cool plugin. Although I recently tried a decent AI tool online. It can split a song into various parts such as vocals, bass, drums etc.. So using your track as an example, I think that AI might separate the guitar, piano and percussion parts more effectively than the plugin. But that's not from within the DAW, so this plugin has at least that one advantage.
It's too bad it doesn't have full functionality with Logic Pro. It's only $40, but I probably won't buy it since it seems like I'd only be able to use it as a listening tool and not a separation tool.
That pkugin has been out for donkeys years you could do squares or circles and move multiple instances around to pull out more audio frequencies cant remember if its the same company but thats an ancient plugin and it was good back then i remember lol !!
am I the only one that thinks eqs should all be vertical instead of horizontal?? it just makes sense. high end at the top. low end at the bottom.
You gotta reheart my comment 😭 I changed a grammar error and it deleted the heart and now I’m sad
@@TacoTJ❤ 👍
Imagine a 30 band graphic EQ from top to bottom 😂. Would need a lot of rack units.
Your describing a spectrogram
All channels on desks are vertical though, only outboard is mostly horizontal
Fun fact: Elastique, the pitch shifting algo that Reaper, Cubase, Studio One and FL Studio (among others) uses is made by zplane. They have some very smart people who are at the forefront in DSP development and progress.
Us pro tools users FINALLY got it as well but it's buggy right now.
Ableton also using their algorithm
Come on Apple Logic, get it together!
Studio one don’t have that plug-in my boy I been on since V3 now on v6 and I have it because I bought it don’t come I’m with any pitch shifting , frequency shifting plug-in what’s so ever .
@@Cramz It's not a plug-in, it's an algorithm built-in to Studio One itself. Whenever you stretch an audio clip to fit the tempo it's using the Elastique algorithm to keep the pitch the same - no matter how much you stretch or compress the audio. You can switch to the "Tape - Resampler" algo, but that's more for getting a lo-fi effect. If you don't know about time stretching and pitch shifting in S1, here's a short video explaining it: ruclips.net/video/_eSrkuajbTw/видео.html
that guitar reverb example is one of the coolest things you’ve shown on this channel. really cool plugin and demonstration of what it’s capable of. thanks!
Unless your sounds are separated in the stereo field how would you isolate them if overlapping with other sounds? Your example is contrived to make the plugin look as if its useful. The affiliate link is not proof of your independence.
he is also deleting comments calling this out
Should be fun for producers who work with samples
This plugin seems incredibly useful for situations where you need to isolate something and apply additional processing to the "selection". That won't be possible in many mixes, but this looks like a great tool to have in the toolbox. Really cool..
The concept is available since more than 20 years with Quikquak's MashTactic VST.
@@paltoquet404 Remarkably similar pricing too!
Yes!
It's been available from the day you could split a stereo channel into mid and side contents.
@@johanneschristopherstahle3395 Mid/side is a mono compatible technique, been a round since mono days.
I've very rarely see a tool or plugin that I am in constant need of. This is a game changer. The amount of clients who have no access to their original projects but still need something lowered or boosted is astounding.
I always need more vintage compressor emulations 😂
This opens up completely new possibilities for sampling, wow :) like it
When I first got this I thought, hey, how about more than one isolation rectangles? Then I engaged brain and saw that using two or more instances on the split signals is the way to go… Great video by the way. Thanks.
I find this awesome to identify bursty issues in an audio file. There's lots of tools that can do the same, and more and more AI tools that will clean it up, but if I look at it through Peel beforehand, it helps me dial more targeted settings that I don't have the skills to 'hear' yet
I had Zplane deCoda first.
A standalone program that was/is useful for instrument practise, enabling the isolation and susbstituting of parts for learning purposes.
When PEEL came along, I grabbed that too.
It doesn't get a whole lot of use in my rig currently, but it is a useful tool nevertheless.
As you pointed out, you have to watch out for artefacts when there's not a lot going on to 'mask' them.
Still good though 👍
Yes, will be grabbing that. Thank you for the review
There's value in simplicity. It takes most people weeks/months/years to really get to grips with how a certain 'simple' tool like a compressor, EQ, whatever,... works and behaves. The danger with product like this, is that it potentially brings people further away from understanding the fundamental essentials and jumping straight into spectral isolation etc. Don't get me wrong, it's fantastic that tools like this even exist, but there's always a certain learning curve you have to go through as an engineer (like with most jobs). We have to be aware there's a danger in tools like A.I. assistants, auto-leveler aids, etc. A fundamental understanding and experience of the basic principles of audio can't be bypassed by using a magic tool. I'm convinced it's easy for people to think that certain tools will solve their audio related issues, when in reality it's their lack of basic understanding and coming to grips with the fundamentals of audio that is the real problem. Tools like this can add to the confusion. Worst of all is that their marketing is mostly aimed at the widest possible audience, promising them a solution for their ignorance. This is just a general statement and by no means 'targeted' at Wytse or PEEL specifically.
I think all of this is a byproduct of lack of education. Which you can think of as a negative, but also as a positive, because it could mean that more new people are producing music and possibly having a lot of fun with it. If they spend money on this and have fun playing around, I don't see a problem. There are objectively much worse things you can do with your money to have fun.
Didn’t know I wanted this. I’m going to pick it up now though. Seems like it could be really useful.
It would be cool if you could do multiple boxes, each with it's own external routing, and also a mix control for each to set how much each box effects each section. Very nice plugin!
I guess you could export when you fix let say the guitar then open it again in a new template and now fix the 2nd part or 3rd but it would be much easier if you can do all that in one take. Very cool plug-in!! Great video too great job 👏🏽
could extract isolated samples so freaking well with this
you can add multiple instances of the plugin on the track and do this too.
Great video as always. Love this tune!
Love you man, great content as always!
This should be made with a built in exciter / suppressor so you can brighten and darken the harmonics/subharmonics above and below. That's a plugin I have always dreamed of. Also a rudimentary version of the magic rx highlighter with this capability would be insane. Edit: I appreciate everyone telling me that I can use my own exciters I did watch the video too, but it was a work flow recommendation. I still love yall though x
use either FathomFive (subharmonics) or Focus (odd harmonics) by airwindows for that specific area excitement.
You could probably do this in Bigwig using the split harmonics plugin.
If you use this to seperate a part of the frequency spectrum/stereo field, you can add in any other plugin you like to do whatever you want with the sound.
Some things will be missing though because you can't isolate things that are at the same place in the stereo field and in the same frequency range.
I don't see how this is would be able to solve most mixing problems. Problems usually occur when instruments fight for frequencies. As long as they are not panned away from each other, you won't be able to isolate them.
@@billB101 Does Bigwig have an option that isn't $399 for split harmonics plug-in?
This is so cool and very useful, great for reviving tracks.
I've been using this for the past 2 or 3 years to extreme filter samples, now thanks to you my secret weapon is out. LOL!
Oh this comment is gonna work in splendid ways for you...
Interesting tool! The best use I can think of is as a very precise and surgical denoiser, like if you have a stereo field recording, and you want to isolate a specific thing!
I don't see a lot of use for it in production if you've still got the project file. Of course a much easier way to add some reverb to the guitar would be to... add some reverb to the guitar!
this one is probably the most interesting tool i´ve seen around for years. So many aplications.
Boy! How I could have done with this on Scarlet & Blue, a restorative mastering project.This would have saved me so much time in post editing. I had to duplicate a track, EQ out everything below and above say the vocal or the guitar solo, add FX and processing, and then had to blend it back in to make it sound natural. This is far more accurate and a whole lot quicker! 😎
Huh. Not what I expected, and definitely more useful than I thought in specific use cases!
Personally I use spectralayers as it allows for even deeper processing, on individual phrases, you can separate different elements and add reverb to the end of a vocal phrase without touching anything else, removing noise etc
This sounds better than many of the "stem separation" stuff I've seen so far. This could actually be useful for learning songs, or perhaps recording a cover while removing the original part from the backing track.
Your example of mastering projects with a suboptimal mix is also one that came to mind. This plugin seems to be pretty versatile.
Yes and no. It will work relatively good with this kind of songs that have a lot of air in between the instruments and where they have their own place in freq/stereo matrix, but it will not work as good with songs filled with more stuff and instruments overlapping each others.
@@anteshell I'd love to try this on a dense metal mix where everything sounds big and the guitars cover a very wide part of the frequency spectrum.
@@creativeheadroom Yeah, me too. I'm a bit disappointed he didn't try this on boarder spectrum of music. I cannot be bothered to try myself the demo with just 5 mins of use time.
@@anteshell Yeah, 5min demo time is uselss. If the devs are willing to increase the time it can be used, I'll definitely check it out. If it works well, I'll buy it at this price. It's not very expensive and I see some good options for using this.
Sounds like you would love RipX too
Great Concept ! really useful tool
Hmm! Very interesting! Thanks for the reviews, you are the best!
This plugin got bashed when it first came out. I never understood why . It’s useful! But the negative reviews made me not dig in.
People got into the old
“This old plugin does the same thing” thing.
Well, I never heard of that “old plugin” so it’s news to me!
Besides, a plugin + the creativity of the user makes all the difference in the world.
I bet there are thousands of plugins that need a revisit.
Especially if they’ve been updated.
Love that song!
Darude has a decent palette.
Quikquak's MashTactic Vst
I got this. But unfortunately since the UI is missing screw holes it just dropped and bounced off the task bar and broke. So had to zip the license file and email it back.
It's been three months or more that I have taken a break entirely from Music Production,Audio Engineering and I won't be producing for the next one year It's totally a different feeling...I still watch your videos when I find some time...I really love your videos I still remember the first video I have watched...It was the Mastering Comparison between Izotope and other Platforms and It was really cool...
Any reason you took a break?
Also my frst video!!
@@samuelbreuer aha
When you say break, you mean you took a Kit Kat to the studio?
great for mastering
Not sure I'd use it for regular mixing (those artifacts are pretty over the top, I've heard better sounding 56kbps mp3s) but as a creative production and sound design tool there's so much potntial here, and the price is even fair!
I've been doing MIDI transcriptions of classic breakbeats recently and I can tell this is a lot better than the tools I've been using.
thats pretty cool actually. I've been wanting something like this for a looooooooooong time
This is very cool! Thank you for doing this review. It's like a very cool, visual side chain thing.
I've had peel for a long time. The latency deterred me from using it more. It seemed to be best used for post-production. I'll try resampling or routing the signal to a different channel to see if that helps. Thanks for the review!
Zplane has the deCoda plug with this same feature, it's really good.
I guess having this plug as a separate thing is good too.
Zplane have been ahead of the game for years. In fact you probably already use their tech as it is licenced in other daws and plugins, especially if you've ever time stretched something.
QuicQuak made the same plugins 20 years ago.
@@paltoquet404 oh wow now that's a name I've not heard for a minute! QuikQuak. they did a realtime pitch plug right?
Now, this is something new and really GOOD!, thanks
That's cool. It would be nice to hear it on a more dense mix.
Pretty remarkable processor. If you can automate the frequency and with parameters you could perform some fun fx processing with it.
Zplane has been making great plugins for a while. Love that company
what a cool concept
this is amazing for sample-based artists
I like it. Seems like they could just add a gate to it or something to tighten up the leaking background noises. But yeah, when you isolated and routed the lead guitar and then added the delay, a light bulb went off in my head. I needs that. You can take a boring section and add such variety to it by switching to the solo guitar, then bringing in the delay then bringing back the background with the delay. same section but now you have ear candy for the listener. Great for arranging.
That's cleaner isolation than I've heard with stem separation software. Seems like it could have many potential uses
Too many artifacts for me but I can see applications in correctional mastering.
I really found the display the most interesting part as I found it easy to determine the frequency density better than a standard RTA/FFT display.
Super cool plugin for forensics and problem-solving. I see this as a good compliment to RX for nerdy stuff. One thing you didn’t try was creating two boxes at the same time. It must do that, right? I could see some uses for multiple boxes.
Yes, does it do two boxes at once? and... how?
Two instances is how you have to do it.
you looked much more excited about this plugin in the thumbnail than in the video
That is an awesome plugin for fixing a finished mix. Thumbs up
That is definitely a useful tool!........Your exercise of adding verb to gtrs could be used everywhere. So many possibilities. I've never had any of these isolation plugins, so I don't know how it stacks up to others. Very affordable too 😉👍
Bloody hell!!! I need this
There was already something like this in old Cakewalk Sonar called R-Mix, it had an ellipse shape and rectangular shape and allowed you to shift the selection I think. Too bad the plugin is defunct and 32 bit only. But it did the same thing and sounded the same
Yeah, Roland R-mix. I used that plugin a lot back in the day.
at this point im convinced this stuff is just magic
this is just amazing. whoever said mastering engineers shouldn't try to fix mix problems was out of their mind. if you can help an element in a mix, do it. i'm buying this like...now. EDIT: HOW IS THIS $40
Man! I’ve seen worse plugins for more lmao. I can’t wait to torrent it lmao, Jk jk 😏😂
This is very cool.
How very cool. A great tool.
I did buy the ecoda from zplane but it sadly did not do what I thought it would do, it does work like ripx BUT you can't extract anything so it just analyse the notes and chords...so not sure if that peel is an useful tool for me
Can be a great de-essing tool...or a transient suppressor maybe...have to check it out, thanks for the video!
Brilliant.
I feel like the only thing I’d use this for would be a remix. Just taking slices of the various frequency modulations could be fun though.
For $39 it’s worth the risk.
Thanks.
PEEL is also embedded in zplane's deCoda, which is great for learning songs!
Really ? I have deCoda and I didn't know that Peel was now embedded with it. I may update it so : )
Ok this is great for sampling.
Very cool 👍
Very interesting what can be done with this. There's going to be some APEEL for this plugin.
I wonder if the box is mappable to an lfo it would be super fun for sound design
whats the song in the background? so relaxing
In my opinion they should just release the visualization as a standalone thing so I can listen to music and chill in a dark room.
Great video as always, could you please make a review on Space Control by Acustica?
Thanks for showing this really useful tool. Sadly there are no multiple output supportet in cubase... if this comes with an update i would buy it.
Well done! I was not expecting that with the reverb. Beautiful and clever 👌
Hm.. I don't know man. This software isn't really that great if the elements in the song you're using isn't already clearly separated and divided in the first place. Which is the case in your example. To me it sounds like you make the claim that this plugin is some kind of real time LALAL.AI-replacement, which it's absolutely not. And it would NEVER fix anything even close to "every mixing issue". I'm having a real hard time wrapping my head around how you who is such a perfectionist could recommend something like this? I mean c'mon, It's just a "fancy" band pass filter in disguise. And beside this you say you're not affiliated with the creator, but still have an affiliated link to PB and PEEL in the description? 🙄
I mean I understand if you need to make money and need to do stuff like this, but can't you just be honest about it? This whole setup seems shady and deceptive and has actually changed my perception of you and you content. Which is a tad sad, I really like your stuff.
/Jono from Sweden!
same bro - fella had one job, but now is like eh, cant trust fella.
Yeah, Weaver Beats did a good review, in which he specifically calls out @whiteseastudio for this video and all the issues you mention. He really did shoot himself in the foot here, and I don't know if he can recover from it.
I honestly thought this was a sponsored video. I have a hard time believing he would have yielded the same results with the usual music he uses to test gear.
I watch every video he uploads but this one doesn’t seem to pass the smell test.
buying ti right now
You could use it to isolate a part you wanna learn or in karaoke lessen the vocals volume to allow people sing over..
It would be really cool as a problem finding tool if you could send it a whole mix and have it tell you what source tracks you are hearing the content from in the rectangle. Like sometimes, especially from a live recorded session or stage session, you are hearing some muddy rumble coming from somewhere and you have to go through a bunch of different tracks to find out that it's a bleed into one of the drum mics or a vocal mic or something. With a tool like this, you could easily and quickly find the problem sound and then find out which tracks its coming from to go and fix it properly.
Isotope insight has this kind of. You can color code tracks
i can probably build this in fl studio patcher .. am i right ?
Is the reason you didn’t use your usual track that it wouldn’t work with usual track? Is it possible that this really only works with this one track because the tracks are separated in a very odd way that makes them very separate and therefore separately addressable? This was unlike any other presentation I’ve seen you make, it seems deceptive. Please tell me I’m wrong because I follow you all the time.
I know I’m wrong because I’ve seen a lot of your videos. I apologize for questioning you. But I’m convinced that the track used to demo the plugin shows the plugin in its very best light, and I can’t think of another track that places instruments this way in a stereo field. Thank you for what you do, and thank you for hearing me out. I’m 72, worked in the recording industry from the time I was 23, but as an arranger,not an engineer. I have learned so much from watching you. So again, thank you.
That definitely wasn’t on purpose
realy cool tool
I would love this tool for cleaning up old recordings. It's affordable, but I'm just some poor neet so can't do this now.
I could see using this to compress a terribly mixed vocal for mastering or something of that nature
This is going to be vital for handling 2-tracks without the original stems as you said. Especially since you can fine tune selections, unlike a typicall track splitter algorythm. Sonible please take notes, lol.
Don't Spectralayers & Izotope RX do this as well?
Now I know! Just made a comment on Leland Sklars latest "Comparison" video where he says that's he who plays the bass on a new released song. The song was from 1973 and I did'nt know it was possible to "exclude" everyone else on the track and just single out one instrument. Wondering about copyright issues?
I bought this about 2 years ago and emailed the company then with my view that this could be a great "visual mixing" aid. But there is an issue, like say when 2 mono guitars are panned L&R. For some reason they smear visually across the middle. Below was my comments to them...
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I bought PEEL 2 days ago and love it! However my main usage would be a "visual mix tool" to help me see where I place instruments and how I EQ them to have their own spaces as I create music. I was wondering if you can tell me if there is anything to learn from the dots. density etc? I'm a bit confused about how you made them work.
First I hope you can develop it a bit more have an input dial or sensitivity slider. On weaker signals it will help to SEE whats going on better when I have a track solo'd etc. I turned up the gain going in... and that works for me, but of course it gave the actual music too much gain.
I noticed when I panned hard left... 1 mono acoustic guitar, the visual signal was very nice and defined in one area of the X&Y field. However when I doubled that guitar and panned hard right... the two guitars blurred across the whole image with dots... making it LOOK like it does when I add reverb etc.. instead of what I expected to have two clear images of my tracks panned L&R. Is this intentional? It kind of messes up how I'd use the plugin. Is there any way in the future to have a Preference setting to choose clear images of mono instruments like that?
hmm, why not just use the isolated signal for the wet path of your effect? i.e. as a prefilter to the send?
I recommend you take a look at the spectral analysis of the Bee Gees song Stayin' Alive. Stunning -sound engineering, and you can SEE it in the spectral domain! incredible. just incredible
does it work with Adobe audition?
okay sick
Cool plugin. Although I recently tried a decent AI tool online. It can split a song into various parts such as vocals, bass, drums etc.. So using your track as an example, I think that AI might separate the guitar, piano and percussion parts more effectively than the plugin. But that's not from within the DAW, so this plugin has at least that one advantage.
whats the name of that ai plug-in?
@@savagetofu1 AI don't know
Thats the one i scrolled down and someone else remembers mashtactic lol and it did more than this does lol !!! Biters lol !!!!
Only now are you testing it?? 😂 Brilliant plugin!
It's actually a vocal extractor.
Pretty cool plugin, wasn’t gonna buy, but it’s actually pretty affordable, so what the heck, got something to do now on Friday night.
I guess you didn't replace Fabfilter with Sonible Smart Reverb...
How can there be a comment from 9 days ago in a video that's been just released? 😂
@@sonidojamon because the comment was made before the video was released
@@kaustik185 I know, It was probably in Private mode! It was just a joke!!
@@sonidojamon I see, I was probably just in robot mode. It was just a fact!
@@sonidojamon channel members get special access to videos early
isn't it sort of like spectralayers?
Mixing drum loops can be great
Amazing
You can kinda do this with spliteq
It's too bad it doesn't have full functionality with Logic Pro. It's only $40, but I probably won't buy it since it seems like I'd only be able to use it as a listening tool and not a separation tool.
That pkugin has been out for donkeys years you could do squares or circles and move multiple instances around to pull out more audio frequencies cant remember if its the same company but thats an ancient plugin and it was good back then i remember lol !!