Love all the JFJ videos on this channel. Had mine for about a year with light use and am happy with it. Results I'm sure will vary with games but I can tell you it works well dvd's and blue rays. Keep up this helpful channel.
I switched to other compounds and got some superior results I use the 3M perfect it series and I get them looking new everytime. Technique Also has a learning curve but after some practice and know what you're doing it's the best bang for the buck even better than the eco pro imo
@@BIGGABE361 yeah there's multiple reasons for it, but I would say technique and compounds are what fixes them. I use different compounds and I also add in a 3rd step which I call the finishing process. I use 3M perfect-it EX series plus a black finishing pad from Meguiars the Dff6. Make sure to use adequate compound that usually helps. When the polish is over and see some left on the disc that makes it look a little wet then you're good. I could show off a picture of a black playstation disc people usually struggle with and I got it looking mirror finish.
@@BIGGABE361 also at the end when you wipe be cautious with what you use to clean off the disc, certain microfiber towels leave marks. I use the glasses cleaner that's really soft those are Excellent.
From what I have learned, it would be the Elm ECO Auto Smart, it´s the one I have seen on many used game stores. It yields the best results, the downside is that it´s a rather expensive machine. Around 2 to 3k in mint or new condition. In my opinion, you would need to run a full time game/disc related business for it to be worth the investment.
My JFJ came with a plastic disc. But still gets extremely hot. Not metal like yours. But I agree, the machine does come with issues. Particularly when it gets to the data layer. I've had data completely removed. Where I've had to resurface multiple times. To get to deeper data layers. Making them playable again. So you really need to experiment, with the time & polishing compounds being used.
I hate the machines' compounds as they tend to leave marks on the discs, and I use Meguiar's Ultimate Compound. I get much better results using that. I also never use the sandpaper at the recommended times, as it's too much. 2 rounds of 3 seconds it more than enough. And I always spray some water on both disc and buffing pad before polishing, as well as on the disc before sanding it. Gives WAY better results. Still saving up for an Eco Pro 2 or Hybrid 2.0 though.
They dont really have better option for the plating but metal. The few materials that woudlnt get hot, or would better disperse the heat due to the pressure and friction would be super fragile, like ceramics or stone. Plasitcs and fiberglass would warp. So you would be sacrificing durability for either fragility or less long term use. Just makes sense to go with metal, considering the machine isnt meant for industrial constant use, but rather moderate home use anyway. As long as you dont clean disc after disc and let it cool down it shouldnt be a problem.
I have seen other videos on this machine, where they also do a sanding process for heavily scratched discs. Is there any reason why you did not mention it?
Thanks for the video. Now I know this is not the type of machine I'm after. I guess I need to go with a more expensive option for better results which is a bummer.
Hi, thanks for the video Since I have to import it to Europe I have to take several things into consideration. With the kit supplied, approximately how many CDs can you fit? Are there aftermarket spare parts? Thank you
Does the jfj require you to buy the chips or whatever that give you x number of uses or is that a different machine? Hopefully you know what I'm talking about lol
Great vid but I wanted to ask, is the machine supposed to fix the inner part of the discs? I have a few that I buffed out but still don't work and I'm wondering if it's that the inner circle is scratched. Appreciate any help. I want to love this machine but so I far I only like it 😂
Ya unfortunately if the scratches are too deep the jfj wont buff them out at all but for the lighter stuff it does a decent job. Also if the disc doesnt work before you use the jfj, it most likely won’t fix the inner disc or deep scratches. Hope that helps👍🏻
Ya I had the same problem for the longest time when I got mine but the heavy swirls went away over time but its still slightly noticeable under good lighting
Beware of running the machine for to long. I made a mistake of repairing too many discs in one session. I went to repair the next day and the part that spins broke right off the axle 😂 Whoops. Ive also heard others talk about motor issues. That is really the only con to the machine. I wouldnt repair more than 5 - 7 discs before letting it cool for 1/2 hour to 1 hour. Dont quote me on that though. Point is...just be aware of thie issue Spray a couple spurts of water on new pads, as this will help with get pad moist and soft. This helps to keep the game cool to avoid damage and warping. I also put a small piece of anti-scratch cloth on part where your place the disc and screw it in(knob). I do this because i've noticed small little rings on the center of the discs sometimes. If you place a small piece of the anti-scratch cloth in between the disc and knob, it helps to avoid this issue. It also makes it easier to unscrew the knob after use. Good machine for the price. Just know, it is not a comercial machine. It has limitations on how many discs you can repair before burning the motor. I have a system where i use it almost everyday but minimally. If you have a stack of games just waiting to be repaired, just remember to pace yourself as you dont want to blow the motor or brake the axle thingy-ma-jiggy 😂 hope this helps someone make an imformed decision and saves them some $$$$ ✌
It's a great beginner machine, but eventually, you'll want to move on to the more pricey Eco Pro 2 or Hybrid 2.0. More money, but so much better machines.
Just bought one, total was around $450 CAD after shipping costs. I already have a stack of games that will completely cover the cost of the machine though once I repair them. Can’t wait for it!
@@redfairmont overall, the swirl marks are really only an issue if you look from certain angles. I did end up liking the results it gave, enough to have purchased a second one now. I do run a business though so most people wouldn’t need to own more than one, I just like not having to switch out all the pads, sanding discs, etc. constantly and can now get more than twice as many games done in the same amount of time.
Are you thinking about upgrading? If so, feel free to contact me. I have a good bit of info on the Eco Autosmart. Great video btw. I would have wanted to see this before I made my deciison on which machine to buy.
Save yourself the headaches and swearing on this machine lol....If your planning on doing video games for a long time invest in a eco pro 2, only downside to that is you have 800 minutes on a key card that you have to purchase after you run out
@@trashpandacollections I still use my JFJ from time to time just to sand down deeper scratches , then I throw it on my eco pro 2. Yeah the Keycard has 800 minutes, its designed for you to come back and spend more money with the company($89 comes with pads and compound too), look around youtube you'll see videos about the machine
I dont resell, so dropping over 1.5k on a disc machine like an eco pro is overkill. This machine for the price range is about as good as it gets for home use, for those not made of money or not investing on their own business. It does minor repairs, just doesnt perform miracles. Most people can afford and justify getting it, but that cant be said about a machine that cost 1.5k for a niche purpose. Considering jfj is the middle child from the shitty hand crank skip drs, to the entry level professional machines like an eco pro, its easily the best option for most people just looking for a reliable way to bring life back to some older discs that are salvagable.
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Love all the JFJ videos on this channel. Had mine for about a year with light use and am happy with it. Results I'm sure will vary with games but I can tell you it works well dvd's and blue rays. Keep up this helpful channel.
Thanks for the support!
I switched to other compounds and got some superior results I use the 3M perfect it series and I get them looking new everytime. Technique Also has a learning curve but after some practice and know what you're doing it's the best bang for the buck even better than the eco pro imo
Hey do you know why I keep getting little swirl scratches on the discs?
@@BIGGABE361 yeah there's multiple reasons for it, but I would say technique and compounds are what fixes them. I use different compounds and I also add in a 3rd step which I call the finishing process. I use 3M perfect-it EX series plus a black finishing pad from Meguiars the Dff6. Make sure to use adequate compound that usually helps. When the polish is over and see some left on the disc that makes it look a little wet then you're good. I could show off a picture of a black playstation disc people usually struggle with and I got it looking mirror finish.
@@BIGGABE361 also at the end when you wipe be cautious with what you use to clean off the disc, certain microfiber towels leave marks. I use the glasses cleaner that's really soft those are Excellent.
@@rubenmejia4881you should make a video showing your process. Something that could help us.
@@chadm8112 I just might I'm waiting for some scratched disc to come in to make one
whats a good refurbish machine for deeper scratches?
From what I have learned, it would be the Elm ECO Auto Smart, it´s the one I have seen on many used game stores. It yields the best results, the downside is that it´s a rather expensive machine. Around 2 to 3k in mint or new condition. In my opinion, you would need to run a full time game/disc related business for it to be worth the investment.
8:37 So sacrifice the yearly sports games or Kinect adventures as beginner discs; got it. 😎
My JFJ came with a plastic disc. But still gets extremely hot. Not metal like yours. But I agree, the machine does come with issues. Particularly when it gets to the data layer. I've had data completely removed. Where I've had to resurface multiple times. To get to deeper data layers. Making them playable again. So you really need to experiment, with the time & polishing compounds being used.
I hate the machines' compounds as they tend to leave marks on the discs, and I use Meguiar's Ultimate Compound.
I get much better results using that.
I also never use the sandpaper at the recommended times, as it's too much. 2 rounds of 3 seconds it more than enough.
And I always spray some water on both disc and buffing pad before polishing, as well as on the disc before sanding it.
Gives WAY better results. Still saving up for an Eco Pro 2 or Hybrid 2.0 though.
Do you get the little swirl marks? I can't seem to clean a disc without them.
They dont really have better option for the plating but metal. The few materials that woudlnt get hot, or would better disperse the heat due to the pressure and friction would be super fragile, like ceramics or stone. Plasitcs and fiberglass would warp. So you would be sacrificing durability for either fragility or less long term use. Just makes sense to go with metal, considering the machine isnt meant for industrial constant use, but rather moderate home use anyway. As long as you dont clean disc after disc and let it cool down it shouldnt be a problem.
Under what circumstances would you want to do a sandpaper cycle on the diac, & do you need to add buffing compound when doing so?
if u don't want swirl scratches use Meguiars ultimate polish
I have seen other videos on this machine, where they also do a sanding process for heavily scratched discs. Is there any reason why you did not mention it?
But don't these come with sanding pads that should help with non working discs? Have you ever tried using those?
Hey Air Val, do you recommend to get a plexiglass plate JFJ easy pro instead of a metal plate if the opportunity arises?
Does it actually fix the game?
Thanks for the video. Now I know this is not the type of machine I'm after. I guess I need to go with a more expensive option for better results which is a bummer.
I have had tons of games that do not work and made them work with this machine. Why do you say this machine can’t do that?
Does anyone know how to hit the center ring? i own a jfj i just have some scratches in the center of the disc that need to be buffed out for the 360
Honesty is very well appreciated. Thanks for sharing and a like to the video well deserved.
Thanks for watching!
thanks for the tips, super informative!
Thanks for watching!
Hi, thanks for the video Since I have to import it to Europe I have to take several things into consideration. With the kit supplied, approximately how many CDs can you fit? Are there aftermarket spare parts? Thank you
Does the jfj require you to buy the chips or whatever that give you x number of uses or is that a different machine? Hopefully you know what I'm talking about lol
the JFJ doesn't, that's the eco pro 2 I believe
You know i was just thinking About this,has anyone thought about using blank dvds to break in there machine? So you literally don't mess up a flip
Do ya still use ur JFJ easy pro ?
Hi there. My machine is not polishing the outside ring of discs so is leaving big circles around disc, and unevenly wearing down my pads.
Any ideas?.
Use meguires polishing compound , spray pad and disk with water and you need a polishing pad by meguires as well . No swirls
Great video 👍
Thanks 👍
Great vid but I wanted to ask, is the machine supposed to fix the inner part of the discs? I have a few that I buffed out but still don't work and I'm wondering if it's that the inner circle is scratched. Appreciate any help. I want to love this machine but so I far I only like it 😂
Ya unfortunately if the scratches are too deep the jfj wont buff them out at all but for the lighter stuff it does a decent job.
Also if the disc doesnt work before you use the jfj, it most likely won’t fix the inner disc or deep scratches. Hope that helps👍🏻
@@AirValYT thanks
You’re supposed to lightly spray distilled water on the disc I heard no?
Soak the padding as much as possible. and then apply the solutions. Just a few drops of each.
My jfj does nothing right I’ve tried everything and it literally makes it looks better but swirl marks like crazy
Are using the JFJ solutions? If so try using Meguiars Ultimate Compound and Ultimate Polish instead. No swirl marks
@@hellhammer5504 oh I actually have some in the garage I’ll give it a shot ! Thanks
Ya I had the same problem for the longest time when I got mine but the heavy swirls went away over time but its still slightly noticeable under good lighting
@@hellhammer5504 Exactly. That's what I use. Compound for the polishing, and the polish for the finish.
I keep getting swirl scratches on the discs. Any idea why?
Use a different compound.
Beware of running the machine for to long. I made a mistake of repairing too many discs in one session. I went to repair the next day and the part that spins broke right off the axle 😂 Whoops. Ive also heard others talk about motor issues. That is really the only con to the machine. I wouldnt repair more than 5 - 7 discs before letting it cool for 1/2 hour to 1 hour. Dont quote me on that though. Point is...just be aware of thie issue
Spray a couple spurts of water on new pads, as this will help with get pad moist and soft. This helps to keep the game cool to avoid damage and warping.
I also put a small piece of anti-scratch cloth on part where your place the disc and screw it in(knob). I do this because i've noticed small little rings on the center of the discs sometimes. If you place a small piece of the anti-scratch cloth in between the disc and knob, it helps to avoid this issue. It also makes it easier to unscrew the knob after use.
Good machine for the price. Just know, it is not a comercial machine. It has limitations on how many discs you can repair before burning the motor. I have a system where i use it almost everyday but minimally. If you have a stack of games just waiting to be repaired, just remember to pace yourself as you dont want to blow the motor or brake the axle thingy-ma-jiggy 😂 hope this helps someone make an imformed decision and saves them some $$$$ ✌
*Was going to buy one until I saw the price of the Pads alone. Yikes*
You should get the version with the self cleaning function.
this is a pro machine that most dont get thats why it works so good its in the hundreds whereas the classic skipdr is cheap so its a hit or miss
Thank you....
Sounds like a JFJ is perfect for beginners.
It's a great beginner machine, but eventually, you'll want to move on to the more pricey Eco Pro 2 or Hybrid 2.0.
More money, but so much better machines.
Just bought one, total was around $450 CAD after shipping costs. I already have a stack of games that will completely cover the cost of the machine though once I repair them. Can’t wait for it!
How did that go
Did it arrive? Did you struggle with the swirl marks it leaves?
@@redfairmont overall, the swirl marks are really only an issue if you look from certain angles. I did end up liking the results it gave, enough to have purchased a second one now. I do run a business though so most people wouldn’t need to own more than one, I just like not having to switch out all the pads, sanding discs, etc. constantly and can now get more than twice as many games done in the same amount of time.
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Just got mine today. Seems to work perfect right out of the box.
Disc was in poor/bad condition before putting it in, not good condition.
Dude, that thing is nasty. Clean it up.
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Are you thinking about upgrading? If so, feel free to contact me. I have a good bit of info on the Eco Autosmart. Great video btw. I would have wanted to see this before I made my deciison on which machine to buy.
Not at the moment but probably will upgrade in the future cause 5 minutes per disc is definitely starting to become a problem 😅
i just wanna clean my movies and CDs buffered honestly
I get better results using toothpaste and ultrafine microfiber cloth without this machine.
bro needs a vacuum cleaner for this
Bro my jfj broke by it self
Bro, you need to blink. You will develope eye issues if you don't.
Save yourself the headaches and swearing on this machine lol....If your planning on doing video games for a long time invest in a eco pro 2, only downside to that is you have 800 minutes on a key card that you have to purchase after you run out
key card? i also use the jfj but wanna look into others eventually. i'll probably always save the jfj for doing movies tho.
@@trashpandacollections I still use my JFJ from time to time just to sand down deeper scratches , then I throw it on my eco pro 2. Yeah the Keycard has 800 minutes, its designed for you to come back and spend more money with the company($89 comes with pads and compound too), look around youtube you'll see videos about the machine
Thanks for the advice! I will most likely upgrade in the future 👍🏻
I dont resell, so dropping over 1.5k on a disc machine like an eco pro is overkill. This machine for the price range is about as good as it gets for home use, for those not made of money or not investing on their own business. It does minor repairs, just doesnt perform miracles. Most people can afford and justify getting it, but that cant be said about a machine that cost 1.5k for a niche purpose. Considering jfj is the middle child from the shitty hand crank skip drs, to the entry level professional machines like an eco pro, its easily the best option for most people just looking for a reliable way to bring life back to some older discs that are salvagable.
I have the ELM / RTI Eco Master and can only laugh at this device here. This is a toy and far far away from "the best device"
That is why you should never clean anything, because it will just get dirty again.