I believe Judit Polgar still holds the rank of strongest IM ever. At the age of 12, as an IM, she ranked 55th in the world. She wouldn't become GM until she was 15. Most people don't rank in the top 100 until they are a GM.
@@theanonymouslegion4811 It also depends on time period, Nowadays 12 year olds are getting GM norms, Many prodigies are coming up and reaching 2500-2600 in just 17-18 years so Earlier there were definitely not many strong players except 10 -20 whom we know,So its possible.
Hey, Gotham, I’m a female in my 60s who started playing chess just a few years ago. Thank you for highlighting women in chess snd for inspiring young girls to get an early start. You’re my favorite chess RUclipsr. Keep up the awesome work!
Best of luck Alene, I'm just getting back into chess having not played since 2004. Back then I played at a club for a while and my greatest achievement was a win against a female player who was about 60. I found an early endgame combination she overlooked, and to be honest, I'm not sure I could have even beat her with the extra piece but she graciously gave me the game as a reward. I was thrilled for that win because she always just crushed me positionally every time I played her! She was a B-class player iirc, and one of the top 100 women in the US at that time. She was a lovely, sweet woman, 100% grandma vibe, but would just tie you up on the board until you only had bad moves left!
Wow!! U have started following chess as hobby/passion at like 60s??? That's when people want to retire and have fun! Cool!! U r a legend!! Thanks alot mam cuz now i feel insanely motivated by figures like you
Judit is a great player - sometimes felt they should have put one of her games in the Queens Gambit - just to remind everybody that there was a live Elizabeth Harmon existing - without all the issues! Still the female player I most admire was Vera Menchik who was the only woman until Judit that played in super-tournaments - beat world champions (Euwe) and national champions. Sadly due to the second world war - she did not play to much at the end and died in a V1 - bomb attack in 1944. She deserves a miniseries of her own.
@@rastrisfrustreslosgomez544 the Queens gambit is based on a book with the same title, they simply followed the source material. (It's loosely based on the life of bobby fisher in case you didn't know)
@@hommelwijf so what? displaying Judith's games on screen is independant from following the source material since knowing which move got played is irrelevant to the narrative, instead it would be a great source of fan-service and a much appreciated tribute to the real life Queen
I would love your review of Sofia Polgar's tournament in Rome. I believe they nicknamed it the "Sacking of Rome" because she obliterated all of the GMs with an incredible tournament performance.
@UCyCmBIFgh7iWrDtUVR9LLWg It's difficult to count up all the things that are wrong with this horribly misinformed comment, but suffice it to say you aren't making a great case for that IQ claim.
@@cybrancommander5993 imagine shaming someone because they admire a professional chess player, she's way above average, also imagine using nerd or simp as pejorative terms to shame people
i didn't know judith never played in women's games!! that's so dope, i thought i was in the minority of chess-playing women for not liking that women had their own separate titles because it *does* set the bar lower. thanks for the video, judith is such a rockstar.
It does set the bar lower but there's a reason for that. Never in the history of humanity were women endorsed nor encouraged to play chess. Quite the opposite. So it makes sense how systematically they'd try to start less and by giving them a separate category the chess federation is trying to encourage more women to join and better themselves at this male dominated sport. Someday when the discrimination on the basis of gender will be ancient history then the segragations will be also long forgotten, for now they're trying to 'even the field'
Because women are quite far behind men in chess. Why? I don't really know. It could be because women in general don't like this game as much as men do (although I don't know if that really is the case). But Judit is the only woman to pass a 2700 rating in her career if I'm not mistaken. There are many male players that have surpassed not only 2700, but also 2800. It doesn't make much sense to put a woman who is around 2650 with male players who are 2750-2850.
A lot of these top players didn't respect here because she was a female chess players, and they payed the price for it. Although she wasn't the greatest player she did a lot for womens chess and played some great games in her career. No other woman has ever reached a FIDE rating of 2700. Anyone who reaches a FIDE rating of 2700 is a badass chess player. And Judith certainly was a badass chess player.
@@frickseerose6146 She was close, but she's around 2650. She did take a short break (I think it was for her studies), but I bet that she will break 2700.
Have you noticed the difference between her and Anish Giri comentating on the WCC? Giri is always like "oh, this pawn here closes the diagonal, white goes here and equalizes and the game is 0+" while Judit just dont give a f***k for the engines and is always like "but what If you trade here and after king moves, now i can infiltrate with my f******g badass rook"
@@Zozakaoo7 yeah... but does the sentence have something to do with his chess carreer? Lone sentence. You would have to answer the question til his chess career be praised. So the sentence is technically asking about the man's life as a whole.
Thank you Levy, this is truly appreciated. As one of your female viewers who recently got into chess, this means a lot. Good luck on your journey to GM!
Female viewer here! I play in my university chess team and am reguarly patronised and put down by references to 'only ever being able to beat women' (when there's never any women in the tournamounts anyway) - plus I'm the only woman in the whole team ...some of my gal friends came along once and never came back because they said they felt too uncomfortable with some of the comments - Judit serves as such a huge inspiration to me, and this video is so so important and I really value it! (also if you're reading this, please don't pin of shame anyone as it diverts from the message). Much love :)
omg the victim mentality men and women are different wtf if top 20 male GM's of all time compete against female top 20 of all time who will win the most we know the answer stfu and stop hating on men grow up
The first fifteen moves against Anand looked soooo much like a guess the elo game,she sacking pieces and Anand avoiding to take them looked so much like Gothamsub blundering pieces and randomnoob not noticing it 😂😂😂😂😂
I live in Hungary and started playing chess a few months ago. I want to learn it, so I took one of her books out of the library to try to improve and inspire myself. Thank you for the video, it was also very inspiring!
@@JeeBand Well I gave up on learning a long time ago, but I've found things that fit me better. I hope you succeed though, good luck with learning chess!
I love that you featured her and that KING'S gambit game. Fitting since she's a tough ass female player and there are rarely king's gambit games at this level since it's so risky. Shows how great she is.
Thank you so much for being so blatently honest, direct and correct on such an important topic. Im very sure this video will be inspitational for a lot of people. Thank you
Fun fact: the 8th game was played indeed in San Luis, Argentina. I live there, and I saw that game, but I was 9 years old and didn't even know how to play chess (my grandma was fan of her). Yet im still trying to find out who the hell asked me but hey, I meet her back then. Saludos a todos los argentinos leyendo
Judit was ranked no 8 in her peak. She was very very strong. Its not surprising to see her defeat no. 1 players. Just like Dubov defeated magnus in airthings, Dubov is not even in top 10 but it wont surprise me if he defeats magnus or nepo in any upcoming games.
I don’t usually comment, but I just wanted to say it’s so refreshing to hear you talk about and understand the gender gap! It’s so important to have men talking about current issues (whether chess related or not) and videos like these always make me smile. Thank you Levy. Here’s to more top female players in the future! 🥂
"If playing like women meant anything in chess it means to play with relentless aggression." - Gary Kasparov thoughts on his defeat against Judith. Chess requires brains and hands to move pieces nothing else. Its a myth to think that chess is a game of men.
Yeahhh I mean.... not quite a myth is it, when you look at the standings and records. Don't tell me women are still being shut down in 2021 and are afraid lol. All doors are open now.
@@lucasng4712 what they said is absolutely true. Obsessively spending years and every waking moment pushing wooden pieces around a board, with absolutely no guarantee of financial compensation as a result of it, is objectively a complete waste of time. Men are really weird and get hugely obsessive about minutiae, be it in sport or anything else. *This is in no way saying women cannot do x or y*. They absolutely can and are frequently better at it. Though generally speaking, dudes are wired differently. There are biological differences that can't be ignored. This DOES NOT mean men are automatically better at things because they are men. This is simply a broad explanation for why you see more men in STEM fields (Science, technology, engineering, and mathematics) and also in sports like Snooker and Chess. We should be able to have a reasonable debate about this sort of thing without fear of being branded sexist, or getting your comments batted away with a dismissive "lmao no".
Content machine. Thats why so many people love u. It was unthinkable for me to be interested in chess, but u did it. Now here watching ur videos minutes after they come out. Keep it up
what a queen!!! thank you so much for this Levy, god i really wanna play competitive chess again now :) Honoured to be part of the 5% even as a semi-mediocre 1200 haha
This was one of the most entertaining Gothamchess videos I've seen. Judit's games were incredible, not to mention they were against the best in the world.
Imagine beating a world champion. Man, she's badass, although she never was a world champion, no other woman can get even close to what she did. Huge respect to Judit Polgar.
Thanks for highlighting Judit Polgar! She is a human wrecking ball over the board. I hope you'll consider another deep dive into some other sweet victories by her. Her fighting style is really great to watch for folks (like me) who's play ain't so great, but who really appreciate the art of chess! These are beautiful games wonderfully presented, so thanks for doing it! Good day.
I would have love if you would added the story of the Polgar´s family, how her parent had a theory from before they born, that anyone could become top in something just practicing from little (as all champions does), and he did this experiment with her daughters, which he totally success to prove his point without the advantage of numbers or innate talent. Even taking into account that it would be always a culture bias and pressure that plays against women, because their own friends and social circle push them to "boyfriends, kids, etc" from early age, when for men there is no hurry or distractions and they even get encourage to be 100% committed. So I guess that is the biggest gap that society should start to close.
@@lynxsss5403 one thing is to know that with practice you could improve (everyone knew that), another thing was to believe that that even without an innate talent (just from adn) someone can reach the top, proving that "genius are made, not born" (I Still think adn also help but he made his case). This is the story: medium.com/the-reflectionist/creating-a-genius-the-3-stage-journey-to-creative-excellence-7ac02dab9e9 And this was even a higher proof because he had daughters, which is harded from a social enviroment point, because these girls does not have any previous role model to follow or feel inspired (other women good at chess), which they may believe that is not possible, that they may be inferior, they also may have the influence of friends or society telling them that is not normal a girl playing chess, that they should do another thing).
@@angellestat2730 One doesn't need any women or men inspiration at all just like I like sabine hossenfender she is a physicist and she inspired me to do physics I don't see any reason why she should be men so that I can take any inspiration
Seeing Topalev, Ponomariov, Khalifman and Kasimdzhanov here makes me wish for more content about these guys. I hate how they are treated like total nobodies by chess media as they are/were all fantastic players, regardless of any debates people might have about the split.
Thanks for constantly speaking up about this Levy. It's super appreciated and I can only hope people listen up ❤️ You could argue there isn't barriers now, but there are social barriers. While I've played chess (online) and played with plenty of nice dudes, I've experienced also a lot of hostility, aggression, harassment, etc. I don't really let it get to me because I'm old enough to know those guys must be super unhappy with themselves, but it can definitely be off putting to younger women, and I worry for someone like my niece (but hopefully I can help her out 💪). Anyways, just a long rambly way to say thanks for speaking up about this!!
@Kate Drewcka - I agree but the situation is more complex than simply looking at how men treat women players on line, or what the opportunities are today. Imagine that there is a race and that half the players (Group A) start that race, go a few laps and then they allow the other half (Group B) to start. Now, as the competitors are driving round, they can hear the commentators saying how Group B are never going to be as good as Group A: never going to catch up because they are inherently less skilled at racing. Imagine also that the A's have better cars, a whole network of engineers and mechanics and financial supporters to back them, and the B's don't because no one thinks they are worth investing in. Lastly, imagine that the second group have grown up with myths about themselves that make them feel inferior. Now imagine that the first group are men and the second are women.
@@guyslifehacks5179 - I think that might be a generalisation/assumption that you can't back up. Also, it doesn't matter if men are mean to each other when playing games - this is a far more complicated situation than a few insulting comments. Read my comment to Kate Drwecka above.
@@honeychurchgipsy6 I wholeheartedly agree! It's just something I didn't get into because I've found youtube comments to often be pretty toxic. Thanks for bringing it up though!
@@thisiskatedee - I hear you!! You would not believe the ridiculous arguments I've engaged in on YT The worst are the men who think they are the ones fighting for women's rights, and that feminism is bad for women because, in the past, women could choose how they lived their lives whereas nowadays they are forced to have a career etc. It's bizarre and scary too.
Judit and Susan are superfantastic women with an always positive attitude. Just watch Judit’s latest against Magnus. And their advocacy for chess is absolutely amazing.
This was possibly your best recap to date, and certainly the one I enjoyed the most. There was an evident Zeal for Polgar's games that you showed, and it's easy to see why. They're exciting. The way she opens out sacrificing material for sustainable initiative. Incredible. Sometimes I can trick myself into playing sharply by telling myself, "I have less to defend... I'm winning." In her case, when she makes that sacrifice, she seem to do so with the intention of committing to that light square, dark square, bishop pair... strategy. it's definitely fun to watch and I thank you greatly for sharing. On a side note. I'm nearly ready for that Caro course of yours. The nimzo/ragozin isn't working out for me. Too much fighting for equality, and not enough fighting for advantage. I really wanted to save it for the 1500-1800 climb, but If I'm going to approach the slav, I always felt it best to approach the two together. I catch a lot of flack for not blindly pitching your courses, but I haven't taken one. I am nervous about the video format, but I am also looking forward to it. I've never played a dishonest game. Which is something I don't think I can say about anything else in life. A disingenuous recommendation would seem to violate that in some fashion. I hope you don't take any actual offence. I've rambled for far too long. In any case, if I haven't said it before. May the best of your todays be the worst of your tomorrows.
I was already a fan of Judit Polgar for her interesting background story, didn't realize she was such an incredibly aggressive player too (who beat 11 world champions), very crazy games
Bravo! A wonderful example of what is in store for the chess world if the trend can sustain its efforts over the patriarchs of chess. Intelligence is not determined by sex or gender, and any new ideas from anyone is what makes chess exciting! I love excitement in chess, and as a older straight male playing chess, I don’t care what or with who you do with your private time, I only care about the next move! Well done Levy, well done!
Why did you feel the need to tell everyone you are a straight white male? Did you want woke points? It doesn't add anything to your reasonable analysis.
@@TheLincolnrailsplitt why did you guess they were white? And mentioning it makes the point that he's saying that not to benefit himself, but for greater fairness and justice. Do you hate the idea of a level playing field?
Yes, and to classify Judit as the strongest female chess player of all time, while technically correct, would be to seriously mischaracterize her and miss the point: Judit simply is one of the strongest chess players ever! Her game against Anand was relayed in pseudo-live fashion over an Internet Relay and was stunning; and it still is! - j q t -
@@johnballard6725 kasparov defeated her 12 times and she only won once. Same to Magnus. Stop worshipping this overrated character just becoz shes a woman
@@digitalstories2179 - triggered much? Why are you and your kind so upset when a woman gets praised for her achievements? Polgar is not overrated at all - she is rated exactly as she should be - as one of the best chess players ever. She beat Fisher's record to become the youngest person ever to become a GM (at the time) at the age of 15, was rated 55 in the world according to FIDE - at the age of 12 - and achieved a ranking of 8th in the world: need I go on? And all this without the advantages of being coached by world champions and former world champions as Kasparov and others were.
I would have love if he would added the story of the Polgar´s family, how her parent had a theory from before they born, that anyone could become top in something just practicing from little (as all champions does), and he did this experiment with her daughters, which he totally success to prove his point without the advantage of numbers or innate talent. Even taking into account that it would be always a culture bias and pressure that plays against women, because their own friends and social circle push them to "boyfriends, kids, etc" from early age, when for men there is no hurry or distractions and they even get encourage to be 100% committed. So I guess that is the biggest gap that society should start to close.
@@angellestat2730 It's really not though. The biggest factor when it comes to the gender gap in chess is biology. Men and women have different characteristics. Which, to be fair, is an even greater endorsement of her father's theory. By the way, you forgot to mention the fact that her father actually put out an ad in an attempt to find a woman who would agree to participate in his experiment, which is how her parents got married in the first place.
@@angellestat2730 imo the biggest difference is men and women themselves and mental characteristics. Men innately want to he leaders the same isnt true for women. A woman is just as likely as a man to get bullied for playing chess at school the difference is how important this is to either one and in my experience women always bail out first men are simply more likely to take risks. Whether this is because men are stronger mentally or dont feel the same pain or rejection from being ridiculed I will never know though I tend to lean to the latter. Obviously in the past this simply doesnt apply women were second class citizen which while his did have advantages the disadvantages massively outweigh it and one of them was a lack of education but in modern society there is no reason women shouldnt be just as good at chess as men exept for interests. You see the same thing in Esports why arent women as good at games as men? Well the size of your hands makes a small difference but its just participation because either board games video games and such just arent as riveting to women in general or mabye as singular entities they are less likely to stray from a group mentality to play what is seen as "nerdy" or "geeky" to create new parts of modern culture such as gaming such as chess such as comics and movies like marvel such as anime. The majority of these "nerdy" things are dominated by male fans and imo Is the reason women suck at games and chess in comparison to men imo.
I feel the same towards women-specific titles and tournaments. Symbolically it represents the idea that women can't compete with men and that men are inherently stronger at chess, which is discouraging and helps perpetuate disparity in the ratio of female players.
Exactly! Unlike physical sports, chess really doesn't discriminate at all. So chess tournaments shouldn't either. Men have a physical advantage in sports, but chess is completely equal. It's just that chess isn't promoted towards young girls as often as towards boys. I remember as a young girl I liked chess but didn't like the fact that the chess class I went to had no girls and quit after a few months and didn't care to keep playing. Until extremely recently after chess was popularised and I remembered that I used to really like it because it made me think strategically.
Still men and women are different wtf we are so different in Physical aspect but we are not that different in mental but we are different i think it's memory if top 10 male Gm's compete against top 10 female Gm's out of 100 who will win the most we all know the answer stop with the men hate
@@Jkjoannaki Nope men and women are different in physical so much but we are not that mush difference in mental but we are different if top vs top male and female compete against each other ot of 100 who will win the most we all know the answer but keep be a victim and hate on men that's the only thing modern feminist women know about
She is by far my favorite chess player of all time. Such aggressive, creative positional approaches...Her games are a rare occasion where I would say a chess game is "hype"!
Most important video you've done Gotham (all your videos are great). My daughter enjoys chess (I'm her dad) and I bring up Judit and Irina Krush and Jennifer Yu (etc.) as examples of great Chess players all the time. Judit is a giant...with a little bit more luck and support she would have been world champion. Thanks for making the video.
Jesus Christ, why do you new gen kids need to see women in chess just to be inspired? So cringy. Back in my day, when I was a kid in chess (yeah I'm male), there were many females in chess...great females in chess...they just were quiet and got on with business...there were some formidable female opponents...some beat me, some didn't. I was chess captain at school too. But we didn't make such a big fuss about gender back then...oh he's a boy, oh she's a girl...all that claptrap. Nowadays on social media, everything is so cringy and people look for validation by being inspired by great women players and stuff...a bit cringy. I'm glad I didn't grow up with social media. My sister is a great chess player, and she doesn't need to be inspired by other females to do well on her own...she just does it.
You should also cover games from Hou Yifan, only her mid-20s, widely considered to be the second-strongest female chess player in history (behind Judit Polgar)
Judith's style is just very powerful. Launching forward to induce a weakness and then transition any advantage into a winning endgame easily shows her WC class
It gives me the chills how levy, hikaru and other great chess streamers and youtubers support closing the chess gender gap. the queens gambit really inspired more girls and women to give chess a try and that's a great thing. And I'm very happy in the gothamchess community I'm so welcome. And it is really amazing that it would be easier for him to not talk about such issues when the vast majority of his viewers are men, but he continues to talk about such "uncomfortable" issues.
To be fair I don't think there is much discrimination towards females in chess, chess isn't based off anything physical, or testing physical traits, therefore a woman and a man can compete and there is completely no biological disadvantage to either genders, this allows for rise to people like Judit polgar and hou yifan who are very very strong players. I believe the reason that creators showcase the games they won was not to breach any gap in chess or address issues, but rather it is to encourage more females to take up chess and show that it is not impossible for females to be strong in the game, and that's what I think you should look at it as, as an impetus for more women to join chess rather than an advocacy for feminism
2 replies complaining about discrimination, and that word never appears in the original comment. One commenter doesn’t understand the word “gap”, but tries to explain it anyway, and the other commenter does his best to disprove the notion that Levy’s community is welcoming. You are confidently arguing against something you imagined, in a subject in which you are not knowledgeable. My suggestion is to re-read the original comment and then your replies and ask yourself why you had that reaction.
@@kyledsweeney The reason I said what I said was not because I was against females playing chess nor am I trying to explain the gender gap in chess. What I'm saying is that more females should play chess as it's one of the few sports where men and women are totally equal. I don't see your point in commenting what you just did. To complain about my comment? Or because you feel the need to be offended that I said chess doesn't discriminate against anybody? What the original comment implies is that women are at an inherent disadvantage which is why streamers need to push forth games by females, what I am saying is that females do not need to wait for anybody to advertise professional female games in order to play chess especially at the higher levels, what problem do you have with that?
@Nehemiah "What the original comment implies is that women are at an inherent disadvantage..." Are you sure this is what the original comment implies? I definitely didn't read it that way. Why did you read it that way? The comment states that it's great for streamers like Levy to bring attention to the gender gap and to encourage more women to play chess. The "gender gap" just means that there is a disparity in *participation* between men and women. There are a lot of contributing factors for why the gap exists, but there was no discussion or complaint about the causes in that original comment. So, without an explicit callout of discrimination (or any other cause), it's strange that this was the first thing you mentioned in your reply. I can't see a reading of any implicit or explicit claims in the original comment beyond stating that there is a gap, and being thankful to streamers for trying to close that gap by encouraging more women to play. --- Back to your first reply, you said streamers talking about women in chess is "... not to breach any gap in chess or address issues, but rather it is to encourage more females to take up chess..." But as discussed previously, the gender gap IS the participation disparity between men and women chess players. Encouraging more women to play IS a way of addressing the gap. So your reply shows a misunderstanding of the term "gender gap". Maybe this misunderstanding explains why you thought the comment implied something that it didn't? I probably wouldn't have replied at all if not for the other guy, who was way more abrasive and way less welcoming than you. But there was stuff in your comment that felt needless and a bit condescending too, and both comments seemed to be arguing against something that wasn't explicitly (or implicitly) stated. Which is why I asked to re-read the original comment and think about your own reply. The original comment never mentioned discrimination. It never mentioned women being at a disadvantage. It just stated that it's a good thing for streamers to talk about the subject and that it encourages participation from women. What did your comment add, argue with, or clarify on the topic? Why bring up feminism? Why feel the need to say there's not *much* discrimination? Why not just hit the thumbs up, or ignore it completely, or simply write "I agree. More women should be encouraged to play"? Why try to explain or give insight into Levy's (a total stranger's) intentions? Lastly, and I don't mean to pick on you or anything, but using the word "females" instead of "women", and talking about discrimination and feminism where there was no mention of either is a bit of a red flag. I'm not accusing you of arguing in bad faith, but it fits a pattern of a certain type of man whether you're conscious of it or not.
@@cassandrasinclair8722 it's not necessarily a false dichotomy. There are areas of mutual exclusivity see the gender- equality paradox. There have been attempt to equalize culture in regards to treatment of men and women and that has by and large lead to greater disparities between the sexes.
@@cassandrasinclair8722 I call it a paradox because the social constructionist types would say that men and women are basically the same, so equalizing culture would produce more equal results in varying endeavors. I didn't mean it to sound like I was endorsing that view. Sorry if that wasn't clear, I do agree with what youre saying.
It looks like she was sort of a rolemodel for the "Queens Gambit" series. But as the story goes, its all glory in the cinema, in real life women had to fight for the spotlight, still do.
She even defeated Topalov... wow, as a bulgarian, it's really remarkable and funny also for me that he lost that game because he's incredibly strong. Great video man, keep going, keep it rollin' dog
Chess has always been a men's game because it's been popular for centuries, and women have only been started to be treated as equals throughout the world (except the numerous places they still aren't) over the last 100-200 years or so. The concept of women's chess titles is inherently sexist because it implies that women don't need standard chess titles, they have their own little subcategory and they should be happy with that. I am 100% in agreement with Judit on abolishing women's titles. They exist solely to undermine women and keep the game a boy's club. Chess is a mental game and there's absolutely no barriers between any genders when it comes to natural skill in it, compared to say, physical sports since men are generally larger or stronger or faster than women. (At least when it comes to playing the highest level, there are innumerable women who are larger or stronger or faster than me lol)
I really love the way that you describe and explain the games 😅 you make them really easy to understand and make me laugh. 🙋🏻♀️ I'm one of the girls that started watching your videos after the queen's gambit, I originally started watching to teach my boyfriend how to play after he got me a chess set for Christmas and he didn't have a clue what he was doing but your one of my favourite RUclipsrs now 😅 and my boyfriend now won't play chess with me because I play online all the time and watch your videos every day haha
My favourite player by far... Her father László Polgár is a true inspiration for all men. He basically single handedly proved that you can nurture two World Class Chess players (the sisters Susan and Judit) in a game that is dominated by men. Judit can hold her own with any man who ever played the game. As far as I am concerned, the Polgar sisters (and her father) have almost single handedly proven that the reason women aren't as dominant in chess as men is nurture not nature. It is an anecdote of course - but a very powerful one in a world bereft of good studies.
Plenty of girls play chess; but when it comes to going to a public place among many stangers, girls have concerns that boys typically don't think about. From the local gaming store to a tournament for any given game... if it's a space dominated by boys, most girls don't feel comfortable going there unless in a pack with friends. There's threat of violence, there's unwanted attention, there's rudeness -- and unless we are talking about a major tournament, there's very little incentive to not just go somewhere else (often meaning "do something else" as well). With chess, maybe this means 2 friends play chess at home for fun and we never get to hear their names in a Gotham Chess recap. They play about as well as each other, so they never need to get serious about the game to get in a share of victories. ... My hope for the future is slowly coming true. Friendship is less gendered than it used to be, girls feel just a bit safer going places (and know how to be as safe as they can while doing it), some boys look out for trouble to make public spaces better, hitting on people who clearly aren't flirting back has become a rightfully serious taboo now, etc etc. As the social barriers drop, the number of girls that compete in chess will go drastically up. After all a higher percentage of girls have a sharp mind for chess, relative to boys (IQ bell curve stuff) -- they also hit their first mental growth spurt earlier. In all of our lifetimes, I expect to see chess reach something at least approaching 50/50 participation. ... Judit Polgar is my favorite chess player of all time. I love Tal, I cheer for Wesley So, and I'm one of the Karpov fans that Levy was talking about. But Judit's games hit a bit different. She plays chess like she's an MMA fighter in a street fight, always looking to land a heavy blow that effectively just ends the game -- even when playing the black pieces. She doesn't ever, ever try to play for just a draw. She's patient. And she's decisive once she starts the attack, because it's all worked out and already over for the poor opponent -- just full speed ahead to the win, unless she missed something (being human and all). It's funny to say that I have a favorite MAN chess player of all time (Tal). But that's how it is.
Well said. As a guy, it saddens me that girls sometimes feel like that, but unfortunately it's true that some people just can't behave themselves. But I'm glad that these fears are slowly but surely disappearing.
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I would just like to mention that none of the 11 world champions have defeated me.
yup
Even I've challenged Magnus many times but he was afraid to accept the challenge.
@@leenkotob6144 same bro
neither me bro
You forgot to mention even polgar hasn't defeated you
I believe Judit Polgar still holds the rank of strongest IM ever. At the age of 12, as an IM, she ranked 55th in the world. She wouldn't become GM until she was 15. Most people don't rank in the top 100 until they are a GM.
Wait how is this even possible?
@@theanonymouslegion4811 didnt have 3 gm norms
@@theanonymouslegion4811 no gm norms
@@theanonymouslegion4811 Sometimes weird things happen because of the rules. GM Wang Hao was never an IM, despite being top 10 at one point.
@@theanonymouslegion4811 It also depends on time period, Nowadays 12 year olds are getting GM norms, Many prodigies are coming up and reaching 2500-2600 in just 17-18 years so Earlier there were definitely not many strong players except 10 -20 whom we know,So its possible.
absolutely loved the king's gambit game. what a flex, taking on f3.
No way are you the real rhythm 🥁 no kappa ur brain is dating me
It's great to see you here! Your videos are such a treat!
Your videos are great. Have you stopped or are you going to continue doing it?
We need some more visual essays from you bro!! Some of the best content on RUclips
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Hey, Gotham, I’m a female in my 60s who started playing chess just a few years ago. Thank you for highlighting women in chess snd for inspiring young girls to get an early start. You’re my favorite chess RUclipsr. Keep up the awesome work!
Best of luck Alene, I'm just getting back into chess having not played since 2004. Back then I played at a club for a while and my greatest achievement was a win against a female player who was about 60. I found an early endgame combination she overlooked, and to be honest, I'm not sure I could have even beat her with the extra piece but she graciously gave me the game as a reward.
I was thrilled for that win because she always just crushed me positionally every time I played her! She was a B-class player iirc, and one of the top 100 women in the US at that time. She was a lovely, sweet woman, 100% grandma vibe, but would just tie you up on the board until you only had bad moves left!
That's awesome! You're living proof that chess is for everyone and that you're never too late to learn the game!
Wow!! U have started following chess as hobby/passion at like 60s??? That's when people want to retire and have fun! Cool!! U r a legend!! Thanks alot mam cuz now i feel insanely motivated by figures like you
Never to late. Are you on TindeR???
Good last thoughts Gotham 400%
Judit is a great player - sometimes felt they should have put one of her games in the Queens Gambit - just to remind everybody that there was a live Elizabeth Harmon existing - without all the issues! Still the female player I most admire was Vera Menchik who was the only woman until Judit that played in super-tournaments - beat world champions (Euwe) and national champions. Sadly due to the second world war - she did not play to much at the end and died in a V1 - bomb attack in 1944. She deserves a miniseries of her own.
Wartimes suck
Pia cramling was also a very talented chessplayer
yee they really drop the ball on that one, it's not like judith's games are someone's copyright I don't think chess works like that
@@rastrisfrustreslosgomez544 the Queens gambit is based on a book with the same title, they simply followed the source material. (It's loosely based on the life of bobby fisher in case you didn't know)
@@hommelwijf so what? displaying Judith's games on screen is independant from following the source material since knowing which move got played is irrelevant to the narrative, instead it would be a great source of fan-service and a much appreciated tribute to the real life Queen
I would love your review of Sofia Polgar's tournament in Rome. I believe they nicknamed it the "Sacking of Rome" because she obliterated all of the GMs with an incredible tournament performance.
it was Sack of Rome
She had 8.5/9 points and had a 2879 performance whoch was stunning when she was 14
Maybe she had a computer in her lipstick D:
Would love to see this as well
@@AthosJosue is that you random player who accused Anna?
yes
Judit is the QUEEN of chess
Porus the UNDEFEATED
@UCyCmBIFgh7iWrDtUVR9LLWg It's difficult to count up all the things that are wrong with this horribly misinformed comment, but suffice it to say you aren't making a great case for that IQ claim.
@@cybrancommander5993 imagine shaming someone because they admire a professional chess player, she's way above average, also imagine using nerd or simp as pejorative terms to shame people
@@cybrancommander5993 you seem more than a bit slow.
@@cybrancommander5993 Wow! Very edgy!
Judit polgar is an absolute beast. Its nice to see a very very aggressive grandmaster because the pace of the game keeps you on your feet
i didn't know judith never played in women's games!! that's so dope, i thought i was in the minority of chess-playing women for not liking that women had their own separate titles because it *does* set the bar lower. thanks for the video, judith is such a rockstar.
JP played other women, she just never played in the" women's world championship."
It does set the bar lower but there's a reason for that. Never in the history of humanity were women endorsed nor encouraged to play chess. Quite the opposite. So it makes sense how systematically they'd try to start less and by giving them a separate category the chess federation is trying to encourage more women to join and better themselves at this male dominated sport. Someday when the discrimination on the basis of gender will be ancient history then the segragations will be also long forgotten, for now they're trying to 'even the field'
@@warrendsmith6832 or in any women-only events. She was Hungary's olympiad board one...in the open section!
Because women are quite far behind men in chess. Why? I don't really know. It could be because women in general don't like this game as much as men do (although I don't know if that really is the case). But Judit is the only woman to pass a 2700 rating in her career if I'm not mistaken. There are many male players that have surpassed not only 2700, but also 2800. It doesn't make much sense to put a woman who is around 2650 with male players who are 2750-2850.
@@flavio7180 i have given the reason for why above
A lot of these top players didn't respect here because she was a female chess players, and they payed the price for it. Although she wasn't the greatest player she did a lot for womens chess and played some great games in her career. No other woman has ever reached a FIDE rating of 2700. Anyone who reaches a FIDE rating of 2700 is a badass chess player. And Judith certainly was a badass chess player.
Hasnt Hou Yvan 2700+? I need to check it up again
@@frickseerose6146 google says peak rating 2686
@@frickseerose6146 She was close, but she's around 2650. She did take a short break (I think it was for her studies), but I bet that she will break 2700.
@@munchkinmatt1670 she has the ability but i think she retired from serious competitive classical chess
They know how strong she is, when you are 2700+, you can beat anyone above you
A 52 minute video about one of my all-time favorite players. Thanks for the good content, Levy.
@@akramansari885 why did you comment twice? And also don't be genralistic she's not in my all time favourite players list 🤷♂️
@@Zenith9132 I only did it once 🤔 I think it's a glitch I'll delete one
@@akramansari885 no she’s not she’s hatefull and cringe
@@wasp7969 Sikes 😬
Levy : "It's like Anand stole a puppy or something."
John Wick : *Who is this guy?*
Lol
😂😂
It would be cool for the female chessworld, if Carlsen or Hikaru would become transgender women.
@@knuthansen8524 what even...
@@knuthansen8524 Just like it would be great for female sports if some male athletes came out as trans and then... oh wait...
Gotham please upload a video"How 11 World Champions defeated me"
why
it will be featured in guess the elo episodes 😀
I'm willing to bet that he hasn't even played 11 World Champions.
No. How fish defeated me?
@light man Its a joke ,I guess he played only 2 Champions till now.
I miss her games. She's such an amazing player making things work when they look impossible and her hyper aggressive style is extremely entertaining.
Have you noticed the difference between her and Anish Giri comentating on the WCC? Giri is always like "oh, this pawn here closes the diagonal, white goes here and equalizes and the game is 0+" while Judit just dont give a f***k for the engines and is always like "but what If you trade here and after king moves, now i can infiltrate with my f******g badass rook"
@@arthurbarbosadelira7505 Loved their dynamic in the world championship. Hope they bring them back for the next one
as someone who is part of your 5% female viewing audience, thank you for this
As a part of the other side, I wish for at least 50%.
@@RattoAnimatied agreed
I hope one day too that there are more female chess player’s
We need this!!!
@@RattoAnimatied Y'all must teach your sisters how to play chess then lol
"... who this incredible man WAS"? Boris Spassky is 84 and still alive today :)
The "was" is correct here in the sense of him talking about his chess past, seeing as he is a different man today
@@Zozakaoo7 yeah... but does the sentence have something to do with his chess carreer? Lone sentence. You would have to answer the question til his chess career be praised. So the sentence is technically asking about the man's life as a whole.
Thank you Levy, this is truly appreciated. As one of your female viewers who recently got into chess, this means a lot.
Good luck on your journey to GM!
Female viewer here! I play in my university chess team and am reguarly patronised and put down by references to 'only ever being able to beat women' (when there's never any women in the tournamounts anyway) - plus I'm the only woman in the whole team ...some of my gal friends came along once and never came back because they said they felt too uncomfortable with some of the comments - Judit serves as such a huge inspiration to me, and this video is so so important and I really value it! (also if you're reading this, please don't pin of shame anyone as it diverts from the message). Much love :)
There will always be naysayers whatever your gender or activity just ignore them sis!
@@johnballard6725 thanks!!
Stop acting like a victim and get better
how about men stfu for once@@guyslifehacks5179
omg the victim mentality men and women are different wtf if top 20 male GM's of all time compete against female top 20 of all time who will win the most we know the answer stfu and stop hating on men grow up
Judit is a legend, you don't have to justify this video to any reasonable person. She's goated
The first fifteen moves against Anand looked soooo much like a guess the elo game,she sacking pieces and Anand avoiding to take them looked so much like Gothamsub blundering pieces and randomnoob not noticing it 😂😂😂😂😂
There is always a funny moment during guess the elo videos where it’s either a super gm or a
Yup weak players play exceptional moves without knowing why. On the other hand strong players do know why. Everyone else just floating in the middle 😂
I live in Hungary and started playing chess a few months ago. I want to learn it, so I took one of her books out of the library to try to improve and inspire myself. Thank you for the video, it was also very inspiring!
how is that now? I also live in Hungary and i do play chess
@@JeeBand Well I gave up on learning a long time ago, but I've found things that fit me better. I hope you succeed though, good luck with learning chess!
I love that you featured her and that KING'S gambit game. Fitting since she's a tough ass female player and there are rarely king's gambit games at this level since it's so risky. Shows how great she is.
Thank you so much for being so blatently honest, direct and correct on such an important topic. Im very sure this video will be inspitational for a lot of people. Thank you
Fun fact: the 8th game was played indeed in San Luis, Argentina. I live there, and I saw that game, but I was 9 years old and didn't even know how to play chess (my grandma was fan of her).
Yet im still trying to find out who the hell asked me but hey, I meet her back then.
Saludos a todos los argentinos leyendo
Gracias
"Judilt Polgar just says 'Hello!' And explodes" - Favourite line
ooc ðat looks weird hahahahahhahahahhahahah
Venonat Kirby is a nightmare
I was trying to make it venonat kirby but not a nightmare
Rick and Morty refference 😂
Like Mine Turtle
Judit Polgar, what a chess OG
earlier than a grandmaster playing H4
Good one
lol
*super grandmaster
I just didnt like it.
Shout out for highlighting Judit, have always been impressed by her presence, and definitely a pioneer for equal access and recognition.
Judit was ranked no 8 in her peak. She was very very strong. Its not surprising to see her defeat no. 1 players. Just like Dubov defeated magnus in airthings, Dubov is not even in top 10 but it wont surprise me if he defeats magnus or nepo in any upcoming games.
I don’t usually comment, but I just wanted to say it’s so refreshing to hear you talk about and understand the gender gap! It’s so important to have men talking about current issues (whether chess related or not) and videos like these always make me smile. Thank you Levy. Here’s to more top female players in the future! 🥂
This is the 50+ minutes video that we've always waiting for. Thank you for making this one Levy!
"If playing like women meant anything in chess it means to play with relentless aggression."
- Gary Kasparov thoughts on his defeat against Judith.
Chess requires brains and hands to move pieces nothing else. Its a myth to think that chess is a game of men.
Men dominate chess mainly because they are more likely to pour themselves into something obsessively.
Dont you have the previous quotes about women in chess by kasparov? I mean to put the whole thing in perspective
@@steelmongoose4956 Lmao no.
Yeahhh I mean.... not quite a myth is it, when you look at the standings and records. Don't tell me women are still being shut down in 2021 and are afraid lol. All doors are open now.
@@lucasng4712 what they said is absolutely true. Obsessively spending years and every waking moment pushing wooden pieces around a board, with absolutely no guarantee of financial compensation as a result of it, is objectively a complete waste of time.
Men are really weird and get hugely obsessive about minutiae, be it in sport or anything else.
*This is in no way saying women cannot do x or y*. They absolutely can and are frequently better at it. Though generally speaking, dudes are wired differently. There are biological differences that can't be ignored.
This DOES NOT mean men are automatically better at things because they are men. This is simply a broad explanation for why you see more men in STEM fields (Science, technology, engineering, and mathematics) and also in sports like Snooker and Chess.
We should be able to have a reasonable debate about this sort of thing without fear of being branded sexist, or getting your comments batted away with a dismissive "lmao no".
Content machine. Thats why so many people love u. It was unthinkable for me to be interested in chess, but u did it. Now here watching ur videos minutes after they come out. Keep it up
what a queen!!! thank you so much for this Levy, god i really wanna play competitive chess again now :) Honoured to be part of the 5% even as a semi-mediocre 1200 haha
38:18 "You can show up drunk to a game, and nobody would really care."
-Gothamchess referring to the Dubov
Magnus did it too. “Hotel mini bar game”
Or Magnus recent sans shirt appearance lol.
This was one of the most entertaining Gothamchess videos I've seen. Judit's games were incredible, not to mention they were against the best in the world.
15:00 levy became colorblind for 15 seconds straight
This is an ode to queen of chess - judit polgar. Hats off.
Female viewer checking in 💃 I love me some aggressive chess, thank you for bringing me this wonderful series of games. I love Judit, she's so badass.
Imagine beating a world champion. Man, she's badass, although she never was a world champion, no other woman can get even close to what she did. Huge respect to Judit Polgar.
Imagine beating ELEVEN world champions
I can watch the video of Judit beating Gary on loop forever.
Kasparov had to cheat to beat Judit once. He broke the touch move rule. She was too speechless to do anything about it. 😀
Yeah I know
Isn't the touch move rule not that big of a deal?
? Explain Better
@@abdullahg4919 it is a big deal, happened with hikaru too, he lost in a drawn position
@@abdullahg4919 Garry made the move and then quickly changed it. See agadmator video
Judit Deserves More Recognition!
She didn't even got much recognised when she was at her prime ....you can't expect her to be famous now when she is retired 😐.
@@Thorfinn517 sadge
She does
She gets plenty of recognition. Definitely deserves it
Thanks for highlighting Judit Polgar! She is a human wrecking ball over the board. I hope you'll consider another deep dive into some other sweet victories by her. Her fighting style is really great to watch for folks (like me) who's play ain't so great, but who really appreciate the art of chess! These are beautiful games wonderfully presented, so thanks for doing it! Good day.
I would have love if you would added the story of the Polgar´s family, how her parent had a theory from before they born, that anyone could become top in something just practicing from little (as all champions does), and he did this experiment with her daughters, which he totally success to prove his point without the advantage of numbers or innate talent.
Even taking into account that it would be always a culture bias and pressure that plays against women, because their own friends and social circle push them to "boyfriends, kids, etc" from early age, when for men there is no hurry or distractions and they even get encourage to be 100% committed.
So I guess that is the biggest gap that society should start to close.
well said brother. cold hard facts right there.
What theory? It's not even his fathers theory that's what every chess players does
@@lynxsss5403 one thing is to know that with practice you could improve (everyone knew that), another thing was to believe that that even without an innate talent (just from adn) someone can reach the top, proving that "genius are made, not born" (I Still think adn also help but he made his case).
This is the story:
medium.com/the-reflectionist/creating-a-genius-the-3-stage-journey-to-creative-excellence-7ac02dab9e9
And this was even a higher proof because he had daughters, which is harded from a social enviroment point, because these girls does not have any previous role model to follow or feel inspired (other women good at chess), which they may believe that is not possible, that they may be inferior, they also may have the influence of friends or society telling them that is not normal a girl playing chess, that they should do another thing).
@@angellestat2730 what initiate talent? You told geniuses are made not born Right? And that's not surprising
@@angellestat2730 One doesn't need any women or men inspiration at all just like I like sabine hossenfender she is a physicist and she inspired me to do physics I don't see any reason why she should be men so that I can take any inspiration
Seeing Topalev, Ponomariov, Khalifman and Kasimdzhanov here makes me wish for more content about these guys. I hate how they are treated like total nobodies by chess media as they are/were all fantastic players, regardless of any debates people might have about the split.
Thanks for constantly speaking up about this Levy. It's super appreciated and I can only hope people listen up ❤️ You could argue there isn't barriers now, but there are social barriers. While I've played chess (online) and played with plenty of nice dudes, I've experienced also a lot of hostility, aggression, harassment, etc. I don't really let it get to me because I'm old enough to know those guys must be super unhappy with themselves, but it can definitely be off putting to younger women, and I worry for someone like my niece (but hopefully I can help her out 💪).
Anyways, just a long rambly way to say thanks for speaking up about this!!
Men are much meaner to each other than to women, if you think chess is bad play call of duty
@Kate Drewcka - I agree but the situation is more complex than simply looking at how men treat women players on line, or what the opportunities are today.
Imagine that there is a race and that half the players (Group A) start that race, go a few laps and then they allow the other half (Group B) to start.
Now, as the competitors are driving round, they can hear the commentators saying how Group B are never going to be as good as Group A: never going to catch up because they are inherently less skilled at racing.
Imagine also that the A's have better cars, a whole network of engineers and mechanics and financial supporters to back them, and the B's don't because no one thinks they are worth investing in.
Lastly, imagine that the second group have grown up with myths about themselves that make them feel inferior.
Now imagine that the first group are men and the second are women.
@@guyslifehacks5179 - I think that might be a generalisation/assumption that you can't back up. Also, it doesn't matter if men are mean to each other when playing games - this is a far more complicated situation than a few insulting comments. Read my comment to Kate Drwecka above.
@@honeychurchgipsy6 I wholeheartedly agree! It's just something I didn't get into because I've found youtube comments to often be pretty toxic. Thanks for bringing it up though!
@@thisiskatedee - I hear you!! You would not believe the ridiculous arguments I've engaged in on YT
The worst are the men who think they are the ones fighting for women's rights, and that feminism is bad for women because, in the past, women could choose how they lived their lives whereas nowadays they are forced to have a career etc. It's bizarre and scary too.
Judit and Susan are superfantastic women with an always positive attitude. Just watch Judit’s latest against Magnus. And their advocacy for chess is absolutely amazing.
This was possibly your best recap to date, and certainly the one I enjoyed the most. There was an evident Zeal for Polgar's games that you showed, and it's easy to see why. They're exciting. The way she opens out sacrificing material for sustainable initiative. Incredible. Sometimes I can trick myself into playing sharply by telling myself, "I have less to defend... I'm winning." In her case, when she makes that sacrifice, she seem to do so with the intention of committing to that light square, dark square, bishop pair... strategy. it's definitely fun to watch and I thank you greatly for sharing.
On a side note. I'm nearly ready for that Caro course of yours. The nimzo/ragozin isn't working out for me. Too much fighting for equality, and not enough fighting for advantage. I really wanted to save it for the 1500-1800 climb, but If I'm going to approach the slav, I always felt it best to approach the two together. I catch a lot of flack for not blindly pitching your courses, but I haven't taken one. I am nervous about the video format, but I am also looking forward to it. I've never played a dishonest game. Which is something I don't think I can say about anything else in life. A disingenuous recommendation would seem to violate that in some fashion. I hope you don't take any actual offence.
I've rambled for far too long. In any case, if I haven't said it before. May the best of your todays be the worst of your tomorrows.
I was already a fan of Judit Polgar for her interesting background story, didn't realize she was such an incredibly aggressive player too (who beat 11 world champions), very crazy games
Wow, I didn't know Judit Polgar was such a strong player and interesting personality. A great and inspiring video!
as a part of that 5%, this video made me smile :) thank you gotham
I'm teaching my girlfriend, and her younger sister and niece how to play chess!
It is exciting and I'm happy to introduce them to the game!
It's the best way I know of to pick up chicks... if that's still a thing one can say.
Teach them how to compete too
@@ludwigwittgenstein1280 the they can talk shit on men oh ya
Bravo! A wonderful example of what is in store for the chess world if the trend can sustain its efforts over the patriarchs of chess. Intelligence is not determined by sex or gender, and any new ideas from anyone is what makes chess exciting! I love excitement in chess, and as a older straight male playing chess, I don’t care what or with who you do with your private time, I only care about the next move!
Well done Levy, well done!
Why did you feel the need to tell everyone you are a straight white male? Did you want woke points? It doesn't add anything to your reasonable analysis.
@@TheLincolnrailsplitt They never said they were white.
@@HaileyTheThird yea he assumed it😂, that happens when you expect it to be there
@@TheLincolnrailsplitt why did you guess they were white? And mentioning it makes the point that he's saying that not to benefit himself, but for greater fairness and justice. Do you hate the idea of a level playing field?
@@verybarebones talk to him bro !!!
“I’m going to give you back the Knight and castle into the Hurricane” sounds like a great song lyric
Judit Polgar was only female player who was no.8 in overall . She is legend ♥️
Yes, and to classify Judit as the strongest female chess player of all time, while technically correct, would be to seriously mischaracterize her and miss the point: Judit simply is one of the strongest chess players ever! Her game against Anand was relayed in pseudo-live fashion over an Internet Relay and was stunning; and it still is! - j q t -
There must have been a lot of strong GMs who were frightened of playing her?!
other than the Olympics I think she never played in women's only competition.
@@johnballard6725 kasparov defeated her 12 times and she only won once. Same to Magnus. Stop worshipping this overrated character just becoz shes a woman
@@digitalstories2179 - triggered much? Why are you and your kind so upset when a woman gets praised for her achievements? Polgar is not overrated at all - she is rated exactly as she should be - as one of the best chess players ever. She beat Fisher's record to become the youngest person ever to become a GM (at the time) at the age of 15, was rated 55 in the world according to FIDE - at the age of 12 - and achieved a ranking of 8th in the world: need I go on?
And all this without the advantages of being coached by world champions and former world champions as Kasparov and others were.
An IM a GM and the GOAT sheesh that family is peak.
Garry or Magnus Polgar confirmed??
@@tarunv24 calm yourself
I would have love if he would added the story of the Polgar´s family, how her parent had a theory from before they born, that anyone could become top in something just practicing from little (as all champions does), and he did this experiment with her daughters, which he totally success to prove his point without the advantage of numbers or innate talent.
Even taking into account that it would be always a culture bias and pressure that plays against women, because their own friends and social circle push them to "boyfriends, kids, etc" from early age, when for men there is no hurry or distractions and they even get encourage to be 100% committed.
So I guess that is the biggest gap that society should start to close.
@@angellestat2730 It's really not though. The biggest factor when it comes to the gender gap in chess is biology. Men and women have different characteristics. Which, to be fair, is an even greater endorsement of her father's theory.
By the way, you forgot to mention the fact that her father actually put out an ad in an attempt to find a woman who would agree to participate in his experiment, which is how her parents got married in the first place.
@@angellestat2730 imo the biggest difference is men and women themselves and mental characteristics. Men innately want to he leaders the same isnt true for women. A woman is just as likely as a man to get bullied for playing chess at school the difference is how important this is to either one and in my experience women always bail out first men are simply more likely to take risks. Whether this is because men are stronger mentally or dont feel the same pain or rejection from being ridiculed I will never know though I tend to lean to the latter. Obviously in the past this simply doesnt apply women were second class citizen which while his did have advantages the disadvantages massively outweigh it and one of them was a lack of education but in modern society there is no reason women shouldnt be just as good at chess as men exept for interests. You see the same thing in Esports why arent women as good at games as men?
Well the size of your hands makes a small difference but its just participation because either board games video games and such just arent as riveting to women in general or mabye as singular entities they are less likely to stray from a group mentality to play what is seen as "nerdy" or "geeky" to create new parts of modern culture such as gaming such as chess such as comics and movies like marvel such as anime. The majority of these "nerdy" things are dominated by male fans and imo Is the reason women suck at games and chess in comparison to men imo.
The game against Smyslov was probably my favourite of these. It really showed a deep understanding of the position I think.
22:38
"I'm gonna give you back the night and castle into the hurricane", made my day
You should write
I was so happy when I met the Polgár sisters when I was a kid at a chess tournament. They are legends and they had impact on my chess career.
Yo what is this slice of heaven? 50 minutes of interesting content from Levy Rozman? Count me in!
Judit is literally so SAVAGE on the chess board. Oh my lord!
My favourite chess players are attackers like Alekhine,Tal,Stein and Kasparov but I shall have to look into Judit's games as well now!
@@johnballard6725 absolutely! Tal and Nez for the win brother! 🏆
As a woman, thank you for highlighting these games! They were a delight to watch! :)
Awesome video, love that there was a similar variation of the Najdorf with the two sacrifices and it worked both times.
I feel the same towards women-specific titles and tournaments. Symbolically it represents the idea that women can't compete with men and that men are inherently stronger at chess, which is discouraging and helps perpetuate disparity in the ratio of female players.
Why don't all female chess players only enter 'males tournaments? Less talk, more action.
Exactly! Unlike physical sports, chess really doesn't discriminate at all. So chess tournaments shouldn't either. Men have a physical advantage in sports, but chess is completely equal. It's just that chess isn't promoted towards young girls as often as towards boys. I remember as a young girl I liked chess but didn't like the fact that the chess class I went to had no girls and quit after a few months and didn't care to keep playing. Until extremely recently after chess was popularised and I remembered that I used to really like it because it made me think strategically.
@@TheLincolnrailsplitt they can't get any of the titles by doing so.
Still men and women are different wtf we are so different in Physical aspect but we are not that different in mental but we are different i think it's memory if top 10 male Gm's compete against top 10 female Gm's out of 100 who will win the most we all know the answer stop with the men hate
@@Jkjoannaki Nope men and women are different in physical so much but we are not that mush difference in mental but we are different if top vs top male and female compete against each other ot of 100 who will win the most we all know the answer but keep be a victim and hate on men that's the only thing modern feminist women know about
She is by far my favorite chess player of all time. Such aggressive, creative positional approaches...Her games are a rare occasion where I would say a chess game is "hype"!
Blown away by how bloodthirsty Judit played. She was pieces down but soon recovered and then obliterated her opponent!
Fun fact: Paul Keres defeated the most world champions(9) during their reign.
He was referred to as the eternal second because despite his skill he was never world chess champion.
@@Zenith9132 Korchnoi more like
Paul also authored a great book on the endgame.
I wouldn't mind seeing this either!
@@simohayha6031 Da fuck,are you back to haunt us.
This woman is really a scary monster. You always have to be mentally prepared when you play against her.
Most important video you've done Gotham (all your videos are great). My daughter enjoys chess (I'm her dad) and I bring up Judit and Irina Krush and Jennifer Yu (etc.) as examples of great Chess players all the time. Judit is a giant...with a little bit more luck and support she would have been world champion. Thanks for making the video.
Levy: "What's worth more than a king?"
Judit: "Hold my 43:58"
Nice bro
I love these historical games! Great content!!!
She beat like 5 of the all-time greatest ever. Litterally awesome player.
Thank you Levy for making these videos,and making me fall in love with Polgar’s playing style
This is absolutely delightful! Thank you for the passionate commentary to this work of art.
20:12 a moment of silence for everyone who (like me) didn't see why Qf8 was so funny until he showed the next move
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U a Elo 800 scrub
I am going for a title now, she inspired me.
Go for it! :)
Amazing! Go you, good luck.
good luck!!!! what’s your chess.com? :)
Jesus Christ, why do you new gen kids need to see women in chess just to be inspired? So cringy. Back in my day, when I was a kid in chess (yeah I'm male), there were many females in chess...great females in chess...they just were quiet and got on with business...there were some formidable female opponents...some beat me, some didn't. I was chess captain at school too. But we didn't make such a big fuss about gender back then...oh he's a boy, oh she's a girl...all that claptrap. Nowadays on social media, everything is so cringy and people look for validation by being inspired by great women players and stuff...a bit cringy. I'm glad I didn't grow up with social media. My sister is a great chess player, and she doesn't need to be inspired by other females to do well on her own...she just does it.
You should also cover games from Hou Yifan, only her mid-20s, widely considered to be the second-strongest female chess player in history (behind Judit Polgar)
Thanky u very much for talking abt this!! Hearing this as a girl (that often gets discouraged to play) rly motivated me. Much respect for u!
As one of your Hungarian subscribers, thanks for this awesome video! We are very proud of Judit, she is truly a role model indeed.
loved the interview that you posted like 15 hours ago :)
“… but what if she takes WITH THE KIIING?!”
Fine, I'll do it myself.
Do a video of Pia Kramnik pleasee
Edit: with her as guest maybe, it would be cool to include the person who actually played the games
9:27 The first move i ever found when Levy said "feel free to pause the video and find it by yourself" i am so proud of myself
Judith's style is just very powerful. Launching forward to induce a weakness and then transition any advantage into a winning endgame easily shows her WC class
It gives me the chills how levy, hikaru and other great chess streamers and youtubers support closing the chess gender gap. the queens gambit really inspired more girls and women to give chess a try and that's a great thing. And I'm very happy in the gothamchess community I'm so welcome. And it is really amazing that it would be easier for him to not talk about such issues when the vast majority of his viewers are men, but he continues to talk about such "uncomfortable" issues.
To be fair I don't think there is much discrimination towards females in chess, chess isn't based off anything physical, or testing physical traits, therefore a woman and a man can compete and there is completely no biological disadvantage to either genders, this allows for rise to people like Judit polgar and hou yifan who are very very strong players. I believe the reason that creators showcase the games they won was not to breach any gap in chess or address issues, but rather it is to encourage more females to take up chess and show that it is not impossible for females to be strong in the game, and that's what I think you should look at it as, as an impetus for more women to join chess rather than an advocacy for feminism
There is literally zero discrimination against women in chess and if anything extra incentive for them. Stop playing the victim and get better
2 replies complaining about discrimination, and that word never appears in the original comment. One commenter doesn’t understand the word “gap”, but tries to explain it anyway, and the other commenter does his best to disprove the notion that Levy’s community is welcoming.
You are confidently arguing against something you imagined, in a subject in which you are not knowledgeable. My suggestion is to re-read the original comment and then your replies and ask yourself why you had that reaction.
@@kyledsweeney The reason I said what I said was not because I was against females playing chess nor am I trying to explain the gender gap in chess. What I'm saying is that more females should play chess as it's one of the few sports where men and women are totally equal. I don't see your point in commenting what you just did. To complain about my comment? Or because you feel the need to be offended that I said chess doesn't discriminate against anybody? What the original comment implies is that women are at an inherent disadvantage which is why streamers need to push forth games by females, what I am saying is that females do not need to wait for anybody to advertise professional female games in order to play chess especially at the higher levels, what problem do you have with that?
@Nehemiah "What the original comment implies is that women are at an inherent disadvantage..."
Are you sure this is what the original comment implies? I definitely didn't read it that way. Why did you read it that way?
The comment states that it's great for streamers like Levy to bring attention to the gender gap and to encourage more women to play chess. The "gender gap" just means that there is a disparity in *participation* between men and women. There are a lot of contributing factors for why the gap exists, but there was no discussion or complaint about the causes in that original comment. So, without an explicit callout of discrimination (or any other cause), it's strange that this was the first thing you mentioned in your reply.
I can't see a reading of any implicit or explicit claims in the original comment beyond stating that there is a gap, and being thankful to streamers for trying to close that gap by encouraging more women to play.
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Back to your first reply, you said streamers talking about women in chess is "... not to breach any gap in chess or address issues, but rather it is to encourage more females to take up chess..." But as discussed previously, the gender gap IS the participation disparity between men and women chess players. Encouraging more women to play IS a way of addressing the gap. So your reply shows a misunderstanding of the term "gender gap".
Maybe this misunderstanding explains why you thought the comment implied something that it didn't?
I probably wouldn't have replied at all if not for the other guy, who was way more abrasive and way less welcoming than you. But there was stuff in your comment that felt needless and a bit condescending too, and both comments seemed to be arguing against something that wasn't explicitly (or implicitly) stated. Which is why I asked to re-read the original comment and think about your own reply. The original comment never mentioned discrimination. It never mentioned women being at a disadvantage. It just stated that it's a good thing for streamers to talk about the subject and that it encourages participation from women. What did your comment add, argue with, or clarify on the topic? Why bring up feminism? Why feel the need to say there's not *much* discrimination? Why not just hit the thumbs up, or ignore it completely, or simply write "I agree. More women should be encouraged to play"? Why try to explain or give insight into Levy's (a total stranger's) intentions?
Lastly, and I don't mean to pick on you or anything, but using the word "females" instead of "women", and talking about discrimination and feminism where there was no mention of either is a bit of a red flag. I'm not accusing you of arguing in bad faith, but it fits a pattern of a certain type of man whether you're conscious of it or not.
The father proved that nurture and nature are different
@@cassandrasinclair8722 Also, watch Three Identical Strangers.
@@cassandrasinclair8722 it's not necessarily a false dichotomy. There are areas of mutual exclusivity see the gender- equality paradox. There have been attempt to equalize culture in regards to treatment of men and women and that has by and large lead to greater disparities between the sexes.
@@cassandrasinclair8722 I call it a paradox because the social constructionist types would say that men and women are basically the same, so equalizing culture would produce more equal results in varying endeavors. I didn't mean it to sound like I was endorsing that view. Sorry if that wasn't clear, I do agree with what youre saying.
@@cassandrasinclair8722 have you followed by any chance the work of her father
@@cassandrasinclair8722 his work for someone like me growing up in less the ideal circumstances inspires.
I would like to mention that this is a 52 minute video. This is great!!! (not being sarcastic) good content man
It looks like she was sort of a rolemodel for the "Queens Gambit" series. But as the story goes, its all glory in the cinema, in real life women had to fight for the spotlight, still do.
She even defeated Topalov... wow, as a bulgarian, it's really remarkable and funny also for me that he lost that game because he's incredibly strong. Great video man, keep going, keep it rollin' dog
Chess has always been a men's game because it's been popular for centuries, and women have only been started to be treated as equals throughout the world (except the numerous places they still aren't) over the last 100-200 years or so. The concept of women's chess titles is inherently sexist because it implies that women don't need standard chess titles, they have their own little subcategory and they should be happy with that.
I am 100% in agreement with Judit on abolishing women's titles. They exist solely to undermine women and keep the game a boy's club. Chess is a mental game and there's absolutely no barriers between any genders when it comes to natural skill in it, compared to say, physical sports since men are generally larger or stronger or faster than women. (At least when it comes to playing the highest level, there are innumerable women who are larger or stronger or faster than me lol)
I really love the way that you describe and explain the games 😅 you make them really easy to understand and make me laugh. 🙋🏻♀️ I'm one of the girls that started watching your videos after the queen's gambit, I originally started watching to teach my boyfriend how to play after he got me a chess set for Christmas and he didn't have a clue what he was doing but your one of my favourite RUclipsrs now 😅 and my boyfriend now won't play chess with me because I play online all the time and watch your videos every day haha
hi! :) what’s your chess.com? :) i’m a girl who got into it after queens gambit as well lol
@@maddies_he4rt charmarie89 😊
THANK YOU for this video! I love it when chess games from female chess players are discussed. Would love to see it more often.
My favourite player by far...
Her father László Polgár is a true inspiration for all men. He basically single handedly proved that you can nurture two World Class Chess players (the sisters Susan and Judit) in a game that is dominated by men. Judit can hold her own with any man who ever played the game.
As far as I am concerned, the Polgar sisters (and her father) have almost single handedly proven that the reason women aren't as dominant in chess as men is nurture not nature. It is an anecdote of course - but a very powerful one in a world bereft of good studies.
Polgar sisters is a thing of beauty. The dad was a mad lad
Recommendation: would have been nice to see her official rating as well as her opponents at those points in time
Any real chess fan loves Judit Polgar. I believe she shows a definite influence from Bobby Fisher in addition to her own brilliance in attacking.
No she's pretty average her scores against top players are embarrassing
Like 12 losses to Garry and only 1 win cmon Women can do better
@@F1gilles average in comparison to top players. geek
Plenty of girls play chess; but when it comes to going to a public place among many stangers, girls have concerns that boys typically don't think about. From the local gaming store to a tournament for any given game... if it's a space dominated by boys, most girls don't feel comfortable going there unless in a pack with friends. There's threat of violence, there's unwanted attention, there's rudeness -- and unless we are talking about a major tournament, there's very little incentive to not just go somewhere else (often meaning "do something else" as well). With chess, maybe this means 2 friends play chess at home for fun and we never get to hear their names in a Gotham Chess recap. They play about as well as each other, so they never need to get serious about the game to get in a share of victories.
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My hope for the future is slowly coming true. Friendship is less gendered than it used to be, girls feel just a bit safer going places (and know how to be as safe as they can while doing it), some boys look out for trouble to make public spaces better, hitting on people who clearly aren't flirting back has become a rightfully serious taboo now, etc etc. As the social barriers drop, the number of girls that compete in chess will go drastically up. After all a higher percentage of girls have a sharp mind for chess, relative to boys (IQ bell curve stuff) -- they also hit their first mental growth spurt earlier. In all of our lifetimes, I expect to see chess reach something at least approaching 50/50 participation.
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Judit Polgar is my favorite chess player of all time. I love Tal, I cheer for Wesley So, and I'm one of the Karpov fans that Levy was talking about. But Judit's games hit a bit different. She plays chess like she's an MMA fighter in a street fight, always looking to land a heavy blow that effectively just ends the game -- even when playing the black pieces. She doesn't ever, ever try to play for just a draw. She's patient. And she's decisive once she starts the attack, because it's all worked out and already over for the poor opponent -- just full speed ahead to the win, unless she missed something (being human and all). It's funny to say that I have a favorite MAN chess player of all time (Tal). But that's how it is.
Thank you for writing this comment! ❣️
Well said. As a guy, it saddens me that girls sometimes feel like that, but unfortunately it's true that some people just can't behave themselves. But I'm glad that these fears are slowly but surely disappearing.
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0:47 : french defense- fort knox variation
6:10 : ruy lopez- breyer variation
12:07 : sicilian- quinteros variation
16:28 : carokann- karpov variation
21:00 : sicilian- scheveningen variation
24:57 : ruy lopez- rio gambit variation (berlin defense)
28:55 : sicilian- najdorf english attack
32:29 : sicilian- scheveningen variation
37:23 : scandinavian- gubinsky melts defense
41:42 : kings gambit- bishops gambit
44:43 : kings indian defense- makogonov variation
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