That guy thought he was in a drag race. I have owned a Forza 300 and although a great bike it did not like uneven surfaces , the ADV is an all round improvement. Cheers for the vid.
I've had my Forza 300 for nearly 8 years and enjoy riding it as much now as the day I first bought it. A fantastic scooter and not a single problem in 20,000 miles. I've been thinking about a new Forza 350 but can't bring myself to part with the 300.😊
Ridden bigger motorcycles for years but got my first scooter, a 2019 Forza 300, 2 years ago to commute on, I absolutely love it. It won't replace my motorbikes but it is one hell of a practical machine, the storage, the ease of ride, the fuel economy and the surprising power for only 24bhp. My only complaint would be the poor suspension but otherwise I wouldn't be without it.
Thank you for your review. I've owned the sh350, forza 350. Your view that the ADV is best agrees with many other youtube reviews. For me, an elderly rider, the SH is the best, because of easy mountability (flat floor). Although it has less underseat storage than the others, (it can still take a Shuberth C3 helmet), the bag hook on the fairing means you can easily carry a shopping bag home there. Also, for those interested in performance, the SH has a better power to weight ratio than the other 2. I've tried the SH with tall optional screen, and no screen, and prefer it with the latter. Whichever of these 3 you opt for, it will be a very good, reliable bike.
Excellent informational review of all three bikes in a limited amount of time! Loved the profile shot & seating position of all three models, (definite thumbs up)!👍🏻Appreciated your personal thoughts while riding each scooter, (everybody’s different), nevertheless your ideas give food for thought?! Best, Rola (Oregon / USA)
Excellent comparison test. So many other RUclips videos are comparing Forzas and ADVs with traditional motorbikes. For me it is going to be the ADV350. This will replace my R1200GS which is just too heavy - especially once it is loaded up for touring. Thanks for your time and effort with this video.
Great review, I have the ADV now, and enjoy riding it. I do find the screen in the high position certainly keeps the cold wind of my chest, so it does make a difference. Brought the SH125 first, but it didn’t really do it for me, carrying a passenger made it a bit light on the front for steering. The only thing I would say, is that the seat is a bit hard, it would be nice if the seat was sculptured to clear the bits down below, as done on some bicycle seats. I have made a seat cushion to raise the bits down below so they are clear of bumps that travel up from the road, but there again I am 77 and need a bit of comfort. Great buy from Honda Bournmouth, delivered and ready to go, so big thumbs up to them. 👍
I always see this guys stuck in traffic while I'm cruising around cars. And you might think "well but outside the Citiy,," no, the Sh 350 smoke the other 2 plebs bye miles. Insane grip and astonishing agility Yes, other two are really really comfy, but if wanted comfort I would have taken the car.
I never really considered a scooter until a friend suggested one, so I decided to buy a Honda SH300i in the beautiful metallic red... now I have 2 Honda scooters and love them. After having the matt blue Forza 350, but not particularly keen on the matt finish, I swapped it for the latest 350 in gloss metallic red... lovely colour. The Forza, with its (rather expensive) electric top box, is a fantastic tourer. Love the dash, and easy to keep clean too. If you’re not too concerned about image, scooters are an excellent option.
Thank you for the comparison. The are very common in Thailand but don't see them so much in Sweden. Have thinking of trading in my old BMW R1100S to something more fuel efficient for daily rides. Have been thinking of CRF 300L but the ADV350 seems to be the most practical one.
Nice to find this comparison. I'm considering the ADV or Forza 350 as well as an X-Max 300 for Italy. I'm thinking that a bigger screen on the ADV would do the trick, as your comments about the more comfortable suspension on the ADV push me in that direction.
I have an SH350i (see my videos) and you didn't mention the carry (curry?) hook! This allows you to place a couple of carrier bags between your feet. With a top box on the rack, I have similar carrying capacity to the other bikes. Another point worth mentioning is the flat floor makes it easy to use for people with knee or hip problems. I've done easy 200 miles of B roads in a day, so no discomfort for me. The acceleration is a hoot on the SH350i.
The hook is not such a great deal.. The other two scooters have huge spaces to carry many things. I understand the flat floor and the tank under the seat as a disadvantage.
I love the analogue dials on the Forza, I hate TFT screens, they make bikes look like outdated cheap nasty looking tablets, more plastic, far less pleasing on the eye, just my opinion. I guess I hate having screens in my face all the time, same in my Car, all screen and software and hardly any physical buttons and no knobs, very irritating.
@ToBeKindIsToBeAKing tft screens look like a silly cheap tablet, no thought or design just modern for the sake, just add a tft screen because they’re modern but modern doesn’t mean better back in the day they designed things to actually look good but the reality is tft screens are cheap to produce off an assembly line like a circuit board but, by all means make TFT screens optional. Bikes are just cheap ugly looking plastic now ultra boring.
@ToBeKindIsToBeAKing Although there are some like the Royal Enfield bikes, Kawasaki W800, Z650RS etc, there are some around thankfully that do actually look good.
The adv is definitely the one on trend. If only they'd made it monoshock like its big brother. Those piggyback shocks look like an afterthought. Im an SH rider and love the physical dimensions. The others start to look bloated in comparison. Never really did like Honda as a bike brand. These days I dont really look at anything else. Good group review
Great review, I’ve just ordered Forza 350 after much deliberation as I didn’t know whether I’d be better of with used Forza 750, but simply put the 350 makes so much sense ie, cost. Can’t wait to pick it up probably Friday, love the style and ease of use with big scoots had a few Burgman 400, T-Max and SH300.
Yes, half the cost, and 50kg less weight. The 750 is also very good, but is actually a motorbike in scooter clothes. I've owned it, (too heavy for me), and gone back to SH350/Forza 350 since.
Having owned several SH 300's over the past 18 years, I would normally go straight for the SH350 but the low down lights dont seem to make you visible in city traffic - personally, I'd have preferred the headlight to have remained in the old higher position. Still can't decide on the Forza 350, though.
Excellent review. I've had my Forza 350 for 6 months and the rear shocks are terrible for heavier riders (I'm 95kg in all my gear) on all but very short journeys. With all the bad roads in UK, I soon get bad backache. So I'm looking to change my shocks and currently looking at YSS which get excellent reviews. Yes I did try the ADV 350, but clearly my test rides weren't long enough to tell the 2 sets of suspension apart.
Im exactly the same on my forza,im a big bloke,20st and the shocks are shite and soon leads to back ache,plus i think the seat padding is poor,so like you il be changing the shocks.really comfy otherwise 6ft 1.i do love the 90 mpg that it returns everywhere it takes me.
Since my original post, I looked into the cost of changing the front & rear suspension including labour and decided it wasn't worth it. Affects the warranty and insurance. So I have traded in my Forza for a 2017 Yamaha t-max 530 with just 12,000 miles on the clock. Looks immaculate. £6500 compared to £14k for a new one. More importantly, the rear suspension has motorcycle type mono shock with preload and rebound adjustments. Icing on the cake are cruise control, heated grips and seats. All in all a much better ride.
The SH350 is pretty grim-looking. I don't like straight-through footboards. I am tenuously interested in buying an ADV350 as a second bike to my Yamaha SCR950. Good comparison. Nick
Bought cv350 a 2022 yr. But i have a problem with the switch and ignition. Sometimes with ignition on and stand up etc.the bike doesnt start. and sometimes I can't turn the switch all the way left to put the steering lock on. Its so annoying.
Great review, thanks! I'm a bit torn between getting a PCX again or whether to upgrade to a 350 Forza or ADV. The SH crossed my mind as well but I don't think it's for me. The PCX's running costs appeal; the Forza's power & looks & narrow bars appeal, & the ADV's power & suspension appeal. Will probably give Newcastle a try for servicing & repairs. My local dealer in Scotland is pretty dire & so haven't had a penny out of me for 10 yrs now. I've travelled 250-450 miles to give my business to dealers who I can trust rather than use the one on my doorstep.
An interesting review, thanks. I have the SH350 and it should be mentioned that although it has the least storage it comes with a rack, you need to buy a rack for the other two if you need a top box. I've put a Give plate on mine and can fit any of my 3 (different size) boxes on. I agree the suspension on the SH350 is poor, the rear shocks are way too stiff, probably ok with a passenger but I always ride 1 up. My bike is 3 years old this July and I'll probably swap it for a new one. I'll have a go on the ADV350 just to feel how much better the suspension how much more difficult the extra 12kg make it to push about. If I get another SH350 I'll fit some Hagons on it.
I have the Forza 125, which is exactly the same size as the 350 Forza. I'm the same height as you and am on the balls of my feet. So if your going for the ADV i would try it for height first. I love the Forza and once i pass my test will be upgrading to the 350.
@@markthompson6278 i have a forza 125 s e , and a sh 350 new last week .both great bikes . i am 75 next week . had lots of big bikes over the years but now these two are perfect for me .
Great to hear that you are enjoying life on 2 wheels. I'm 53 and just starting out. If you had to choose between the Forza and the SH350, which would you choose Mark
Seriously the Forza and ADV fitting a proper helmet under the seat is just a massive practicality bump over the SH. I have an ADV350 and I can rock up to my destination and stick my XL helmet, gloves and jacket under the seat no problem.
I'd like the ADV350 but as you've shown the Forza 350 is slightly lower and fits me better plus it has the motorised screen. If only the Forza would get uprated suspension and eventually a full digital dash? We can only hope.
That would be the perfect scoot for me - the Forza, better weather protection and an electric screen - the ADV, better suspension/handling (and looks, to be honest).
I think this is what a look of us are struggling with, the good bits seem spread between the Forza and the ADV. To be honest I'd have the suspension from the ADV on the Forza and that would do me. The Forza has better wind protection, better screen and while not on trend, I think analogue clocks are WAY clearer and more classy than the cheap n nasty reverse LCD.
How is the wind protection around knees and lower parts of the body? I assume SH is best in that regard because its just a slab of plastic in front. What about Forza and ADV due to their more sculpted front end?
My problem is i loathe these hard to read reverse LCD dashes and so gravitate towards the Forza but then i know I'll be riding it wincing at the crashing from the front end wishing I'd bought the ADV. There again if i bought the ADV i know I'd be hating the instruments and the screen and the lesser weather protection and be convincing myself the front end couldn't have been that much worse on the Forza...
@@o00scorpion00o already got it on my Integra but wanting to 'upgrade'! Must say I'm becoming weary of the DCT with town riding and making the engine bog down and vibrate so perhaps might go TMAX route - any thoughts?
@@drdoolittle5724 DCT shouldn't cause the engine to bog down or vibrate, there is usually different modes for throttle response and how the DCT holds the gears for longer or change early etc. There are different versions of the DCT that iron out various bugs and the newer generation are supposed to be a lot better, I would love the Integra but it's too powerful for the A2 license here which must be 20 Kw minimum and 35 Kw Max, the Integra 750 is around 40 Kw. Tmax is CVT so while it's butter smooth some don't like that rubber band effect, it holds high revs and reduces as the speed increases. I recently got an old 2007 Tmax 500 and it's a lot of fun, first bike for me, it's in need of some work but I only want it for maybe a year until I get experience and maybe pass the test on it. The CVT will need a lot more maintenance than a DCT so beware of that, belt and rollers need changing on average around 20,000 Km intervals if I remember correctly.
I did mention the SH I’m not a big fan of the shape or the size of the foot boards not much room. The big wheels make it handle more like a motorcycle.
Since you have it as one of the three scooters in the presentation, you should say a few words either positive or negative and this because some people might be interested to know. Anyway, thank you for your reply.@@Geordiebiketester
That's my preference but it depends on priorities. If you do a lot of town work you may find the SH is more nimble and it's certainly easier to get on and off.
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That guy thought he was in a drag race.
I have owned a Forza 300 and although a great bike it did not like uneven surfaces , the ADV is an all round improvement. Cheers for the vid.
I've had my Forza 300 for nearly 8 years and enjoy riding it as much now as the day I first bought it. A fantastic scooter and not a single problem in 20,000 miles. I've been thinking about a new Forza 350 but can't bring myself to part with the 300.😊
Ridden bigger motorcycles for years but got my first scooter, a 2019 Forza 300, 2 years ago to commute on, I absolutely love it. It won't replace my motorbikes but it is one hell of a practical machine, the storage, the ease of ride, the fuel economy and the surprising power for only 24bhp. My only complaint would be the poor suspension but otherwise I wouldn't be without it.
Thank you for your review. I've owned the sh350, forza 350.
Your view that the ADV is best agrees with many other youtube reviews.
For me, an elderly rider, the SH is the best, because of easy mountability (flat floor). Although it has less underseat storage than the others, (it can still take a Shuberth C3 helmet), the bag hook on the fairing means you can easily carry a shopping bag home there.
Also, for those interested in performance, the SH has a better power to weight ratio than the other 2.
I've tried the SH with tall optional screen, and no screen, and prefer it with the latter.
Whichever of these 3 you opt for, it will be a very good, reliable bike.
Excellent rundown. Thanks.
Excellent informational review of all three bikes in a limited amount of time! Loved the profile shot & seating position of all three models, (definite thumbs up)!👍🏻Appreciated your personal thoughts while riding each scooter, (everybody’s different), nevertheless your ideas give food for thought?! Best, Rola (Oregon / USA)
@@rolacook222 thanks for those great comments.
Excellent comparison test. So many other RUclips videos are comparing Forzas and ADVs with traditional motorbikes. For me it is going to be the ADV350. This will replace my R1200GS which is just too heavy - especially once it is loaded up for touring. Thanks for your time and effort with this video.
Nice one Graham. I've posted this on the Forza and ADV Facebook group 👍
Probably the best review on these bikes , thank you as I’m about to order the ADV 350 👍
You will not regret it. I've owned all three models the front suspension on the ADV is the deal maker plus the wide bars.
That's a very useful comparison. Thanks 👍
Great review, I have the ADV now, and enjoy riding it. I do find the screen in the high position certainly keeps the cold wind of my chest, so it does make a difference. Brought the SH125 first, but it didn’t really do it for me, carrying a passenger made it a bit light on the front for steering. The only thing I would say, is that the seat is a bit hard, it would be nice if the seat was sculptured to clear the bits down below, as done on some bicycle seats. I have made a seat cushion to raise the bits down below so they are clear of bumps that travel up from the road, but there again I am 77 and need a bit of comfort. Great buy from Honda Bournmouth, delivered and ready to go, so big thumbs up to them. 👍
I always see this guys stuck in traffic while I'm cruising around cars.
And you might think "well but outside the Citiy,," no, the Sh 350 smoke the other 2 plebs bye miles. Insane grip and astonishing agility
Yes, other two are really really comfy, but if wanted comfort I would have taken the car.
I never really considered a scooter until a friend suggested one, so I decided to buy a Honda SH300i in the beautiful metallic red... now I have 2 Honda scooters and love them. After having the matt blue Forza 350, but not particularly keen on the matt finish, I swapped it for the latest 350 in gloss metallic red... lovely colour. The Forza, with its (rather expensive) electric top box, is a fantastic tourer. Love the dash, and easy to keep clean too. If you’re not too concerned about image, scooters are an excellent option.
Scooter are brill can do so many jobs with ease.
Excellent video, a test that was much needed !!
Thanks
Thank you for the comparison. The are very common in Thailand but don't see them so much in Sweden. Have thinking of trading in my old BMW R1100S to something more fuel efficient for daily rides. Have been thinking of CRF 300L but the ADV350 seems to be the most practical one.
Nice to find this comparison. I'm considering the ADV or Forza 350 as well as an X-Max 300 for Italy. I'm thinking that a bigger screen on the ADV would do the trick, as your comments about the more comfortable suspension on the ADV push me in that direction.
I have an SH350i (see my videos) and you didn't mention the carry (curry?) hook! This allows you to place a couple of carrier bags between your feet. With a top box on the rack, I have similar carrying capacity to the other bikes. Another point worth mentioning is the flat floor makes it easy to use for people with knee or hip problems. I've done easy 200 miles of B roads in a day, so no discomfort for me. The acceleration is a hoot on the SH350i.
The hook is not such a great deal.. The other two scooters have huge spaces to carry many things. I understand the flat floor and the tank under the seat as a disadvantage.
@@user-sk2me9yj9c As I said, the flat floor is a definite ADVANTAGE if you have osteoarthritis in the hip and/or knees.
I love the analogue dials on the Forza, I hate TFT screens, they make bikes look like outdated cheap nasty looking tablets, more plastic, far less pleasing on the eye, just my opinion. I guess I hate having screens in my face all the time, same in my Car, all screen and software and hardly any physical buttons and no knobs, very irritating.
@ToBeKindIsToBeAKing tft screens look like a silly cheap tablet, no thought or design just modern for the sake, just add a tft screen because they’re modern but modern doesn’t mean better back in the day they designed things to actually look good but the reality is tft screens are cheap to produce off an assembly line like a circuit board but, by all means make TFT screens optional.
Bikes are just cheap ugly looking plastic now ultra boring.
@ToBeKindIsToBeAKing Although there are some like the Royal Enfield bikes, Kawasaki W800, Z650RS etc, there are some around thankfully that do actually look good.
The adv is definitely the one on trend. If only they'd made it monoshock like its big brother. Those piggyback shocks look like an afterthought. Im an SH rider and love the physical dimensions. The others start to look bloated in comparison. Never really did like Honda as a bike brand. These days I dont really look at anything else. Good group review
I have tried all three of them and for me SH350 is the most nimble and best fun
I have a huge dilemma. Which of the three should I take? Is it really superior? the sh stronger than the other two?
Great review, I’ve just ordered Forza 350 after much deliberation as I didn’t know whether I’d be better of with used Forza 750, but simply put the 350 makes so much sense ie, cost. Can’t wait to pick it up probably Friday, love the style and ease of use with big scoots had a few Burgman 400, T-Max and SH300.
Yes, half the cost, and 50kg less weight. The 750 is also very good, but is actually a motorbike in scooter clothes. I've owned it, (too heavy for me), and gone back to SH350/Forza 350 since.
Excellent, thank you very much.
Same Here,in the Netherlands,just bought the black one ,new, with acrapovic
Having owned several SH 300's over the past 18 years, I would normally go straight for the SH350 but the low down lights dont seem to make you visible in city traffic - personally, I'd have preferred the headlight to have remained in the old higher position. Still can't decide on the Forza 350, though.
Excellent review. I've had my Forza 350 for 6 months and the rear shocks are terrible for heavier riders (I'm 95kg in all my gear) on all but very short journeys. With all the bad roads in UK, I soon get bad backache. So I'm looking to change my shocks and currently looking at YSS which get excellent reviews.
Yes I did try the ADV 350, but clearly my test rides weren't long enough to tell the 2 sets of suspension apart.
Sometimes you need to do what I did. Go from bike to bike that’s when the difference stand.
Im exactly the same on my forza,im a big bloke,20st and the shocks are shite and soon leads to back ache,plus i think the seat padding is poor,so like you il be changing the shocks.really comfy otherwise 6ft 1.i do love the 90 mpg that it returns everywhere it takes me.
Since my original post, I looked into the cost of changing the front & rear suspension including labour and decided it wasn't worth it. Affects the warranty and insurance.
So I have traded in my Forza for a 2017 Yamaha t-max 530 with just 12,000 miles on the clock. Looks immaculate. £6500 compared to £14k for a new one.
More importantly, the rear suspension has motorcycle type mono shock with preload and rebound adjustments. Icing on the cake are cruise control, heated grips and seats.
All in all a much better ride.
Thanks Man! Great practical review.
Great review. Bought ADV today
Cool enjoy hope you bought the new blue it’s mega colour.
@@Geordiebiketester I bought the light grey as I would have had to wait 4 months for the blue 🙄and they had the grey in the showroom
Is it available in the US
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Wicked thank you 👍👍
The SH350 is pretty grim-looking. I don't like straight-through footboards. I am tenuously interested in buying an ADV350 as a second bike to my Yamaha SCR950.
Good comparison. Nick
Bought cv350 a 2022 yr. But i have a problem with the switch and ignition. Sometimes with ignition on and stand up etc.the bike doesnt start. and sometimes I can't turn the switch all the way left to put the steering lock on. Its so annoying.
Usually "conventional forks" means non usd units.
This isn't the case with the adv
Great review, thanks! I'm a bit torn between getting a PCX again or whether to upgrade to a 350 Forza or ADV. The SH crossed my mind as well but I don't think it's for me. The PCX's running costs appeal; the Forza's power & looks & narrow bars appeal, & the ADV's power & suspension appeal.
Will probably give Newcastle a try for servicing & repairs. My local dealer in Scotland is pretty dire & so haven't had a penny out of me for 10 yrs now. I've travelled 250-450 miles to give my business to dealers who I can trust rather than use the one on my doorstep.
We do try our best to give good service.
Its pretty appalling that you haven't a trustworthy dealer nearby.
An interesting review, thanks. I have the SH350 and it should be mentioned that although it has the least storage it comes with a rack, you need to buy a rack for the other two if you need a top box. I've put a Give plate on mine and can fit any of my 3 (different size) boxes on. I agree the suspension on the SH350 is poor, the rear shocks are way too stiff, probably ok with a passenger but I always ride 1 up. My bike is 3 years old this July and I'll probably swap it for a new one. I'll have a go on the ADV350 just to feel how much better the suspension how much more difficult the extra 12kg make it to push about. If I get another SH350 I'll fit some Hagons on it.
my 2nd s h 350 i 2021 and 2024 , i just soften the rear suspension to lowest position , 1 click . perfect .
On my SH300 I fitted YSS shocks. Cost around £100 and made a massive difference. The stock Honda shocks gave me terrible back ache!
Excellent review torn between the adv or forza i stand 5'7' with short 29 inch leg aged 65 both bikes suit my storage needs.
I have the Forza 125, which is exactly the same size as the 350 Forza. I'm the same height as you and am on the balls of my feet. So if your going for the ADV i would try it for height first. I love the Forza and once i pass my test will be upgrading to the 350.
@@markthompson6278 i have a forza 125 s e , and a sh 350 new last week .both great bikes . i am 75 next week . had lots of big bikes over the years but now these two are perfect for me .
Great to hear that you are enjoying life on 2 wheels. I'm 53 and just starting out. If you had to choose between the Forza and the SH350, which would you choose
Mark
@@markthompson6278 what's suits you mark both are good bikes, great to hear your starting out on bikes.
I have bought a pcx off you and will be across in two weeks to order a Forza 350 in red.
Cool see you soon.
Great review!
Seriously the Forza and ADV fitting a proper helmet under the seat is just a massive practicality bump over the SH. I have an ADV350 and I can rock up to my destination and stick my XL helmet, gloves and jacket under the seat no problem.
Yep it’s mega my Father in law carries all sorts in the space on his ADV350
I'd like the ADV350 but as you've shown the Forza 350 is slightly lower and fits me better plus it has the motorised screen. If only the Forza would get uprated suspension and eventually a full digital dash? We can only hope.
That would be the perfect scoot for me - the Forza, better weather protection and an electric screen - the ADV, better suspension/handling (and looks, to be honest).
I think this is what a look of us are struggling with, the good bits seem spread between the Forza and the ADV. To be honest I'd have the suspension from the ADV on the Forza and that would do me. The Forza has better wind protection, better screen and while not on trend, I think analogue clocks are WAY clearer and more classy than the cheap n nasty reverse LCD.
It seems insane that they don’t fit the forza screen to the ADV ?
How is the wind protection around knees and lower parts of the body? I assume SH is best in that regard because its just a slab of plastic in front. What about Forza and ADV due to their more sculpted front end?
Yep SH wins but the other 2 if you tuck yourself in they are rather good.
I was thinking of getting a Forza and upgrade the rear suspension just to make it a little better.
All the reviews I've seen it's the front suspension that's more of an issue.
I can put up with the front suspension on my Forza 300 but changed the rear to YSS. A great improvement for not much money.
@@splodge5714 interesting, thanks!
My problem is i loathe these hard to read reverse LCD dashes and so gravitate towards the Forza but then i know I'll be riding it wincing at the crashing from the front end wishing I'd bought the ADV. There again if i bought the ADV i know I'd be hating the instruments and the screen and the lesser weather protection and be convincing myself the front end couldn't have been that much worse on the Forza...
look at the dash on the kymco dtx360............excellent bike
Ou Honda trás logo está adv Pará ou Brazil vai vender muito muito não tenho dúvida
Looking forward now to Forza 750 v X-ADV 750 test, please? Great review, thank you!
Need Honda to say yes to a Foza 750 and a X-ADV demo so I can play on them. Hopefully for 2024.
Can’t beat dual clutch. I’d say you’ll love it.
@@o00scorpion00o already got it on my Integra but wanting to 'upgrade'! Must say I'm becoming weary of the DCT with town riding and making the engine bog down and vibrate so perhaps might go TMAX route - any thoughts?
@@drdoolittle5724 DCT shouldn't cause the engine to bog down or vibrate, there is usually different modes for throttle response and how the DCT holds the gears for longer or change early etc.
There are different versions of the DCT that iron out various bugs and the newer generation are supposed to be a lot better, I would love the Integra but it's too powerful for the A2 license here which must be 20 Kw minimum and 35 Kw Max, the Integra 750 is around 40 Kw.
Tmax is CVT so while it's butter smooth some don't like that rubber band effect, it holds high revs and reduces as the speed increases.
I recently got an old 2007 Tmax 500 and it's a lot of fun, first bike for me, it's in need of some work but I only want it for maybe a year until I get experience and maybe pass the test on it.
The CVT will need a lot more maintenance than a DCT so beware of that, belt and rollers need changing on average around 20,000 Km intervals if I remember correctly.
Can't get the adv 350 in AU very disappointing.
Τhe sh 350 nothing? Any news? A useless scooter? Do the 16 inch wheels mean something? engine useless? agility stability speed nothing?
I did mention the SH I’m not a big fan of the shape or the size of the foot boards not much room. The big wheels make it handle more like a motorcycle.
Since you have it as one of the three scooters in the presentation, you should say a few words either positive or negative and this because some people might be interested to know.
Anyway, thank you for your reply.@@Geordiebiketester
Forza is the winner
That's my preference but it depends on priorities. If you do a lot of town work you may find the SH is more nimble and it's certainly easier to get on and off.
Ive just had my brand new ADV 350 in grey delivered and i did 33 miles yesterday, tomorrow I'll be fitting the 'Easyblock' security device!