Teaching neck reining
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2012
- Warwick talks about a great book "The Nature of Horses" and how to teach neck reining.
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i like how this guy isnt trying to sell his own book but actually giving good info and recommending a good source
Your comments about the necessary order being new cue and then old cue makes this old dog trainer smile. It works the exact same way with dogs (and cats and chickens and at least one crow, which I have also trained).
I have a method of teaching dogs to come when called (referred to in dog trainer shorthand as recalls) that is darn near bulletproof. Over the years, I've called my dogs away from playing horses, fleeing white-taied deer, away from a rabbit when the dog with a long history of killing and eating rabbits had his open mouth less than six inches from a rabbit's neck, any treat known to man, etc. A big component of my method is repetition. It starts small, with the trainer and dog in the smallest room in the house and the dog only having to turn their head in order to win, so the initial steps take very little time to do.
One time, I had a student who was aghast at the thought of the amount of training she would need to do to get her dog to respond the way my dogs did. She actually went home that evening and counted how many recalls I was advocating: over 32,000. She came back to class the next day, convinced she could somehow change my mind.
I just looked at her and said "in the time you were counting up how many recalls you didn't want to have to do, you could have gotten at least fifty repetitions in, maybe even a hundred. So now you're behind everyone else!"
+GrainneDhu Thats a great story.
I once had the pleasure of riding a cutting horse from a ranch. He knew so much that all I had to do was wiggle my big toe to turn him, and I rarely needed the reins at all. If I sat back, he would slow down, and if I just lifted my hand, without actually pulling the reins, he would stop.
The whole time you are riding in a snaffle (usually their whole first year), you are teaching them to steer off that outside rein, as shown in the video. The point you go to a curb bit is when they can do verything you want them to do, in a snaffle. You don't go to more bit to teach new things.
Train the horse to do everything in a snaffel. Why not keep them in it? So why go in to a curb bit? (What objectives are desired graduating to a curb bit?) Thanks, for sharing.
That end downward transition from canter to walk to halt!!!!
my horse neck reins very well, I was riding him English style when I just bought him, then realized he neck reins, spins very well, now I'm excited
Warwick, you're an absolute legend and a genius. Love your videos. Thank you.
As usual straightforward,good explanation.
Great training tips. Definitely will be trying them. The palomino at the end is so dark too, I love it!!!!
Thank you for all the Wonderful videos you post!
This guy is a great teacher and the videos are very well done.
This is really helpful and sounds easy to do! I have to try this!
This is very helpful! Subscribed!
Loved the video thanks!
Interesting concept about incorporating the more subtle cue before the older, less subtle cue in teaching the more subtle cue. Great insight!
I would suspect Warwick and Clinton Anderson are not competing against each other but rather The trainer and person they were one month ago one year ago and three years ago etc. it’s all about the journey!
Cool vid and such beautiful horses!
Glad to know I was teaching it correctly :)
Great book! It opened my eyes reading it!
Spot on as usual
Yes!! Soft hands! Don't care for the bit, but I'm so glad to see more people teaching about having softer hands. So refreshing.
Its just a smooth snaffle
@@WarwickSchiller I learned from Rick Gore and don't like using bits at all on my horses. That's just how I do it, though. 🙂
@@glassdragonmedia The bit is never the problem, the users hands are the problem. People who go "bitless" without changing what they do with their hands is really the problem.
@@WarwickSchiller well y'know to each their own.
My Dad could train a horse well, back in the day. He used to start them with a hackamore. The horses had no bit, but they learned to neck rein.
Thank you!!
I'm going to teach my horse to neck rein even though I ride English :)
I ride English too and I'm hoping to try this with my horse. I want to ride with a neck rope so I'm hoping this will help as she will only turn with the reins at the moment.
Same here!
It’s an awesome thing to teach for English horses too! It keeps them thinking and soft!
Great content. I am the only one who watched partly because of the beautiful palominos????!!!
I'd agree with you Holly, with the reins under the neck you are basically dragging them around, versus teaching them a cue.
I personally witnessed a woman in my field teach a thoroughbred racehorse to transition to pony n neckrain in a week n a half..I bought him from her
Exactly. Very well explained. This is also how you transfer the subtle cues to tackless riding. I love this horse ...so nicely coloured and put together! Would you happen to know his sire/dam?
My horse will fight me every time when I tried but I think your video will help
love your stuff, good to find an aussie for a change :D
do you ever work with mules or donkeys? how do the rules change? I would love to have a Mammoth Jack at some point for trail riding.
Great video. Really don't see the part where you say you want to know about softness and flexing. I have a question about how to get their head down and back up. nose in. Collection on a loose rein? I'll check your other free videos. Thanks!
Like if you think he is better than Clinton Anderson!!!
I wish I could hit the like button 1000 times more! lol :)
Grant R.D-music- same 😂
Enter eye roll here! They both have the same concept
Danielle Baker they both have the same concept but he is calm and strait to the point while Clinton fills his videos with ads so it’s a matter of taste
CLINTON ANDERSON IS SO MUCH BETTER!
Yes totally right, lay the rein on neck first then the direct rein. It won't take long.
You need to take every opportunity that presents itself
This is how I trained my horse to neck rein. Great explanation.
Side note. I hate when they tie up their tails so they can't swat flies. You can keep their tail thick by not brushing it and only brushing it out with tons of conditioner before a show. But that may be too much work for some people.
They can swat flies with their tail plaited. if you've even been shished with one you'd know what Im talking about
WarwickSchiller yeah it hurts like a mf... but it's clearly more irritating trying to swat with it braided, you can tell by the horses attitude and just common sense (this has been with my own experience with my own horses and horse I observe). It's not like they can't swat still, it's just not as effective since it's tied to a point not a whole broad sweep. I don't know, I just say let a horse be a horse. They already put up with so much, I'm not going to make it more irritating for them to swat flies. But that's just me. Otherwise, great video.
MORELIFE he didn’t take the plait out at the end, it’s a different horse.
Your pony is so cute!
you call that a pony? thats a horse
What is a subtle cue we can incorporate into halting and backing up?
softly spoken 'whoa'...or when on the ground I stand facing the horse and raise my pointer finger to the sky for stop, then I tap the air with my finger to get them to back up.
It looks like you're in a snaffle right now. I have reining goals and am doing all my training myself. Ive never competed before, and would love to hire a trainer but want to get as far as possible on my own first. I believe for competition you need to be in a curb bit (correct me if im wrong) so at what point on their training would you switch over to a curb bit and would you steer any different in it?
Rebecca, have you had an equine dentist look at your horses teeth? A high percentage of "fussiness" comes from the horse have teeth issues and an actual equine dentist will float the points and make sure that the horse jaw is even and has 100% maximum grinding capacity and able to relax when they chew....just food for thought. A couple of my reiners came to me with issues and now I always allow my equine dentist to check teeth before training starts.
Hey! I have a question and looking for anyone's advice!!! I do gentle horsemanship so I'm looking for a gentle way to teach my horse to next rein. My problem is I have been doing drill team and my new horse Gunner is a barrel horse! I have had him doing drill for a month just at a trot with one hand and a flag but every time I get to a lope he forgets everything I showed him he goes into this land of I'm gonna ignore you I have been riding for 7 years neck rein and two hands I just got him to move his hind with my legs and working on shoulders and he isn't light on reins and legs so what do I do!?!?!
+Savannah Broussard Find a reputable reining horse trainer in your area and ask him to teach you how to move your horse's shoulders (neck rein). You can read books and watch videos, but you will need some coaching to put the timing and the feel together. Once you feel it, youll be on the way to being able to teach your horses to neck rein with a very light cue. Hopefully you'll learn the value of taking lessons on some type of consistent basis.
Savannah Broussard So my horse used to be quite heavy and dull on the bit. At first, I would say whoa. Second, apply slight pressure to the bit still saying whoa. If she didn't stop by then, I would basically hit the brakes on the bit and back her up. I did this enough in one session that as soon as I said whoa, she was like "okay okay I'm stopping!!"
Savannah Broussard ... You have to remember that horses don't associate things the same way we do. If you teach them to turn to the right, you have to train them to turn left independently. They won't know how to turn one way just because they understand it to the other. The same goes for the different parts of their body. Just because they know how to yield to pressure in the front, doesn't mean they understand it in back, or even going from their neck to their shoulder. They may catch on faster the second way, but not always. Training horses is a very ordered affair. Start with the first cue and repeat as many times as it takes for them to learn it, then incorporate the next cue until they learn it, making sure to repeat on the other side. Great patience is required and all horses learn at different paces. Some things will be easier for them than others and most, if not all horses do better to one side than the other, right or left handed if you will. To retrain a horse properly you must start over with the basics, giving them the new cues you want them to learn as if you were starting from scratch. Sometimes it takes even longer than it would have if they didn't know anything. Just be patient and be sure and praise them when they do it correctly and you can teach them to be the horse you want!
@@unrulyjulie4382 everytime I teach my gelding a new trick it's like teaching a 60 year old man whose never seen technology how to use an iPhone. My mums gelding however learns quite quickly. But it doesn't stick and ends up taking longer because you have to repeat it more with him and he always tries to take shortcuts that of course will not be accepted. It's funny how different horses can be from eachother. Their personalities are incredibly diverse. My gelding also is usually anxious, even when relaxed, it's just how he is. But when faced with actual scary stimuli he'll take direction from me without much arguement and he's never bolted more than a foot, which is just out of being startled(ex. A gunshot went off from a neighborhood we were riding next to and he literally tucked butt, dropped to the ground, and scooted forward a good foot. Didn't take off running but gave me a few seconds to give him direction. We trotted a few circles so he could get his nervous energy out and then he was fine). My mums gelding however looks like he's drugged half the time but if he gets startled or nervous he's very hard to control. A good part of that is how me and my mother differ in our treatment of our geldings but you can still tell a good deal of their personalities from that.
Pity about the fuzzy audio.
Yeah, I've been doing this for a year. still no neck reining lol!
+AzureHeartSong Then you're doing something wrong. Sorry.
I would say not so much, because as the book stated, the cues can't happen simultaneously otherwise the horse learns that the combination of the cues, rather than just the rein on the neck.
Makes sense but that book clip offers nothing original but rather just a good explanation of Pavlovian conditioning or pairing cues.
I started My horse out with a d-ring snaffle and I only rode with it for about 6 months because my horses is so stubborn she would fight against the snaffle bit. I thought maybe it was because she wasn't sensitive enough, so i switched her to a curbed bit and she was a little bit better and she will move off my legs now but I still cant her to neck rein.
Anyone else having trouble finding those exact book. The covers aren’t the same. Talk about Mandela effect.
Is that smart and shinny ?!
Grandson had a good eye...two different horses for this video.
Clinton Anderson is a good trainer, but he over trains. Keep a horse's training simple, slow and correct and you will get what you want out of it faster and easier.
LMAO!!!!!!