Introduction to the Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- James McCullough speaks to Bishop Steven Joseph Lopes, Mgr Keith Newton and Mgr Harry Entwistle in Walsingham, England.
Pope Benedict XVI established The Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham in 2011 to allow Anglicans to enter into full communion with the Catholic Church whilst retaining much of their heritage and traditions. It has the full support and blessing of the Church.
Bishop Steven Joseph Lopes is an American Roman Catholic prelate. He is the bishop of the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter.
Mgr Harry Entwistle is an English-born Australian priest of the Roman Catholic Church and the first Ordinary of the Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of the Southern Cross.
Mgr Keith Newton, was named as the first ordinary of the Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham. Prior to his reception into the Roman Catholic Church in 2011, Newton had served as a priest and bishop of the Church of England, most recently having served as Bishop of Richborough in the Province of Canterbury from 2002 until 31 December 2010.
I am switching my diocese over the Ordinariate. The Liturgy is fantastic. It's like a Tridentine Mass in English. I hate to reduce it to that because it's not that simple, it's clearly the Anglican patrimony... but man, it's really great.
I'm RC but love the Ordinariate liturgy. Like you say like the traditional Mass but in English. I attended the Ordinariate Mass for All Saints & All souls days while I was visiting a town which has an Ordinance community. Can one officially switch from RC to the Ordinariate like changing from Latin to Eastern Catholic rites?
@@anthonylangford7797 As I understand it, the Ordinariate is a Roman rite. Remember that they originally broke away from Rome, not an Eastern Orthodox rite. The Ordinariates are jurisdictions, like a diocese, so they are under the same code of canon law as the regular diocese. If you are a regular diocesan Catholic, with no connection to Anglicanism, you can attend an Ordinariate church, and become part of the parish. However, your Bishop will remain your regular diocesan Bishop, not the Bishop in charge of the Ordinariate. It shouldn't make any difference to you, unless you need the services of a Bishop for some reason. I think it needs the Pope's approval for a diocesan Catholic to officially join the Ordinariate and come under the authority of the Ordinariate Bishop, but don't quote me on that.
@@anthonylangford7797we are Roman Rite, Anglican Use. Fully Roman.
Great, great achievement towards unity!
Love Our Lady of Walsingham Shrine. I have visited 4 times.i am British. Have lived in Northeastern Pa. for the last 49 yrs. Grew up in Norfolk and Suffolk England. Miss it so much. I am Catholic.
Diane Sic gala , the English burnt the original Statue of our Lady
How are these Bishops can accept RC catholic teachings in view of Anglican doctrines? What about RC priests that have married? THEY ARE SIDELINED.
Could it be these new RC bishops are members of Free Masonry or Scottish rite?
Do these men realize that there were Anglican martyrs ?
Marvellous video! Our Lady of Walsingham & all the Saints, pray for the Ordinariates!
This is wonderful and as a Roman Catholic I pray the Divine Worship Daily Office and I love it!!!
I noticed a strikingly beautiful statue of our Lady of Walsingham on the little table. Must have one if I visit Walsingham again, God willing.
Im from latin rite catholic..or Roman,from Philippines and I admire...loved this..brothers of ours from the Anglican ordinariate...this what makes them unique,they are truly one of our( diverse )Holy Catholic Apostolic Church....
We‘re Roman Rite too!
When I listen to Monsignor Harry I want to listen more, , he’s very interesting
That would be an ecumenical matter
This comment wins RUclips
oml I'm creasing, that's hilarious haha
'Yes Father, I suppose it would'
40:00 A good example of what "ecumenism"actually is.
I am an Anglican, albeit lapsed, but in seeking faith again, I've been drawn towards the Catholic church. I wanted to join an Ordinariate but there are none near me, Manchester or Blackpool being closest. It has been suggested that I ask at my local catholic church if I ca be prepared for full communion. I think that's what was said ( Father Black). Before I do so and after hearing about union without absorption here, is thare a way that I can attach myself to an Ordinariate and if so, what would it entail in terms of preparation for entering the Catholic church ( I mean physical meetings). I am in Wirral, Merseyside. Thanks in advance.
This Q&A answers this!
ordinariate.net/q-a
The short answer, is that the Ordinariates are not a distinctive Rite within the Church. So, its not like choosing to be baptized Melkite or Latin Rite. The Ordinariates are distinctive within the Latin Rite. So... you may be confirmed into the Church at either an Ordinariate parish, or a closer Catholic Church to you. If you are confirmed at a "regular" Catholic parish, then you are perfectly free to associate with an Anglican Ordinariate parish, just as cradle Catholics are.
There's also a group called "Friends of the Ordinariate" you might want to look into.
You can be a member of the Ordinariate and only go to services monthly, or however frequently you're able. And just go to ordinary Latin-Rite parishes for everything else.
The RCIA (Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults - how Adults become Catholic), as far as I can tell won't change between the Ordinariate and the regular RCIA - I'd encourage you to contact the Ordinariate and ask. As a former Anglican, you can go through the RCIA at the local church, and then apply to the Ordinariate later as I did. Ironically, I understand far more about my Anglican upbringing now, being Catholic, than when I did before hand. Pray sincerely, and you will be guided as to your next steps. God bless!
Thanks for the info Vicky.
I know that Anglicans can be accepted into the personal Ordinariates without regularly attending an Ordinariate Parish. I know a few Ordinariate Groups that are simply based in a normal parish of a diocese and they are working toward establishing their own parishes over time. This may be the way to go. The Personal ordinariate is just beginning and it needs good men and women who will help carry it's standard forward!
Thanks for the reply Nick. If you read my response to David above, it should shed more light on my position. I'd be interested if you have more details of the groups that you've mentioned. Thanks.
Very good. How can Anglicans in Africa willing to join the ordinariate do so?
You may want to ask one of these ordinaries...
Move to the US, Australia, Japan, Britain..
Where do they form their priests? I would think working with FSSP might be a good partnership for priestly formation.
I had a very similar thought; the ICKSP, especially with their restoration of historic shrines and church buildings in the U.K.
Visiting poster Not FSSP but SSPX the Tridentine Mass would have gone if it wasn't for the four that held it. FSSP are robbers they got educated by SSPX then ran .
I think they have their own seminaries... remember this is not similar to the current novus ordo mass. their liturgy is structured similar to the Old Latin Mass...
Does anyone here use the wonderful 'St Gregory's Prayer book'?
Yes
Interesting, I've recently discovered the catholic church and it has been since the anglican church broke its communion with the pope that much my family has been (now) Mormon, and before they came to the United states they were anglican. Through my last name (Bates) my family can track it lineage back to the 15th century and possibly even much more than that when my family was catholic
Welcome Anglican priests
Why is there no Ordinariate in Southern Africa?
Michael Rossouw How populous is the Anglican Communion there?
@@samlawson6507 Anglicans are one of the major denominations in the country. I believe that the bishop of the Traditional Anglican Communion in South Africa got the Roman Archbishop of Pretoria (himself a former Anglican priest) some years ago, to assure him that the Ordinariate would not be set up in South Africa. I am open to correction here. It seems quite odd to me that countries like Australia, Canada, the USA and Britain have the Ordinariate, but in South Africa, no such provision has been made or for that matter asked for. I asked this question to see if I could get to the bottom of the fact why there is no Ordinariate in South Africa. I guess no group or congregation has approached the Holy See to establish one. Most Anglicans in the Anglican Church of Southern Africa, the largest body of Anglicans in the country, are seemingly content with the church as it is. The Traditional Anglican Communion has a strong presence in some areas but is "small" in terms of numbers, but is growing. We already have a number of expressions of Anglicanism in South Africa, the two main ones being The Church of England in South Africa (now the Reformed Evangelical Anglican Church of South Africa) and The Anglican Church of Southern Africa, (formerly the Church of the Province of Southern Africa). Along with the TAC, the Imziwase 'eThiopia, The Ethiopian Episcopal Church of South Africa (formerly the Order of Ethiopia) The Anglican Catholic Church of South Africa (a missionary province of The Anglican Province of America) and others. So, as can be seen, there are a number of expressions of Anglicanism in South Africa, but no Ordinariate.
@@brmichaelth I would not be surprised. It's like the concordat between the Roman Catholic Church and the Polish National Catholic Church (USA) not to accept each other's priests. But, as usual, it's already happened. Not surprise there. 'Nuff said.
If Anglicans had any sense, they’d be members of GAFCON churches! Lopes has notoriety being the youngest bishop in the USCCB.
I thought Our Lady of Walsingham was Roman Catholic recently I discovered its a Latin Sarum Rite but , the Priests are ordained by Greek or Ukrainian Bishops and they make it clear they have nothing to do with Rome.
I know the Greek Orthodox Church does not use Sarum like many Orthodox they use Byzantine rite.
Where is this Bishop's accent? He is not native to England.
It's a North Eastern English accent.
Bishop Lopes is from US.
Melkite Greek Catholics aren’t a rite. The rite is Byzantine. It’s the Church of Antioch. An ancient Apostolic See from St. Peter in union with Rome. It’s a Church in its own right. Until 1724 CE it was Orthodox.
I'm always surprised that ETWN presenters (UK and US) still use the adjective - pejorative actually - 'Roman' to describe the Catholic Church. Msgr Newton is certainly very consistent and informed about that use. Only members of the Diocese of Rome are properly called 'Roman Catholics'. Please, please, do not encourage the use of the term 'Roman' Catholic to refer to the whole Catholic Church as it is simply not a correct application. We are properly the Catholic Church, and for most of us English speaking ones, members of the Latin Rite. Good grief, ETWN, get it right.
ROMAN is not a pejorative, it is how your denomination called itself before JPII. And the Roman is for the Roman Empire not the city of Rome, that is why Eastern Roman Catholics are Greek Rite and Western Roman Catholics are Latin Rite because of the two halves of the Roman Empire it claimed to be the established/official church of.
@@hesedagape6122 Your remarks are inaccurate and false. The Catholic Church of the Latin Rite only uses 'Roman' to describe the members of the diocese of Rome, or the bishop of that diocese/see, and this has been consistent even in Vatican II documents. Otherwise, we are simply referred to as the 'Catholic Church', and sometimes by specific dioceses or rites. The adjective of 'Roman' was first introduced by the Anglicans to distinguish their church from those of the Latin Rite. Some Orthodox in turn, specially in more recent times, picked up the same use and it is derogatory.
@@TyroneBeiron you cannot be simply referred to as the Catholic Church because no Church is referred to simply as the Catholic Church. The Universal Church is referred to as "The One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church".
The Orthodox Catholic Church that you broke away from was the official established denomination of the Roman Empire.
The Roman Empire is the See of Rome. Why? Because of your hierarchical episcopacy. The Roman does not refer to Rome because it has ceased to be a reference to only the city of Rome for centuries since the 1st century AD. And Roman is not an insult in European culture. It was called and registered Roman Catholic worldwide until recently they started the change in English. Even so as at the time I was young it was known as Roman. Your noisemaking makes you out as a millennial American. As Germans, Poles, etc have pointed out it is only in recent English circles that the Roman is being surreptitiously dropped. To pin that on Henry VIII is silly and unwarranted. In his day it was the Roman Catholic Church.
@@TyroneBeiron Anglicans apart from Anglo-Catholic factions which is a recent addition does not primarily need that distinction. It was the Church of England until fairly recently when the Anglican Communion was founded. We don't use Catholic in our official name so why would there be a need for a distinction. Essentially when the push came to re-register as the Catholic Church, Protestant Catholic denominations felt it was an affront as they were also Catholics just not Roman Catholics as had been understood for centuries. Orthodox Catholics may be your more likely suspects but at the time of schism they were good. You call them Orthodox or Eastern Orthodox but from Ancient times when they were established by Theodosius II they have been known as Orthodox Catholic Church with documents to back it up so sorry!
@@hesedagape6122 Quite obvious you are sunk deep in your own version and point of view. Whatever language is used, the historical fact remains that there is by institution and unbroken apostolic succession one Catholic Church with various rites or liturgical traditions and many national dioceses in communion with the See of Peter. When ETWN presenters continue to make mistakes in using Protestant terminology, it does not help.
Any parent who allows their child anywhere near catholic schools, church grounds or anything catholic in general should be jailed for neglect and aiding and abetting the rape of children. This is beyond debate