No, this case of Matodzi now has new evidence presented. Those people will be arrested or summoned to court. His affidavit states he had accomplices which the law cannot deny. People have been implicated and will face the law based on evidence. In the case of EFF , it's bribery and corruption.
They can be investigated. The affidavit just can't be used as evidence against anyone named in it. Makes no difference, though, since the ANC and SACP elites will be protected.
Yes, because the System always defends the unrighteous, while the Nation has to accept whatever is told to them due to technicalities. As yet, a single powerful politician is to be charged for corruption crimes in South Africa, and again all these accused Perpetrators will get away Scot free as usual.
The affidavit may not be used against those mentioned as involved in the VBS heist, but the person who made it may testify in court. Is there any difference between the witness and the affidavit he deposed to?
I'm interested in knowing how people are going to be refunded their hard earned money? This Matodzi conviction,how is it going to pay back the money? Are all his assets going to be sold to pay at least few people who banked with vbs? I feel sorry for those who put their money in that bank💔
@@luciamatsabe6989 All these baastaardz , EFF must pay back the poor people's money. EFF did not declare a donation from VBS Bank when they alleged that they received it. There was also Tax implications that Juliarse Will answer to.
The statement used is hearsay but if presented on oral examination by the witness after conviction of the accused person the evidence is admissible so it will depend on the willingness of the prosecution to invite the witness, but I would personally love to see those involved to have their day in court and account it’s so painful to see poor people getting robbed by those who hold office
Leaked? It's a public document once handed to court. The affidavit itself isn't proof but it's a basis on which to call him as a witness. Even to compel him to testify.
The document did indeed leak. It is part of a plea bargaining agreement/process and not a public document as such (due to its nature), even if submitted to the court. The wide dissemination of the document may serve to frustrate the administration of justice.
This commentary makes no sense: Matodzi s affidavit reveals what the NPA already knows; it is not meant to be evidence. There must be evidence that substantiate the allegations and that is the evidence that will be tested in.
Phala Phala not for me, VBS not for thee as well. The GNU /Gangster Network United is signaling it's business as usual for all the caders across the political landscape. Continue but apply more stealth.
Of all mentioned people in this avidavit afriforum and media chose only EFF for prosecution, why is that or shall we take upon ourselves to defend our leaders and our organisation because even the law enforcement sector seems controlled or highly influenced by certain forces to always go after the above mentioned people and we realise why
Is like you asking a human being to become an animal. Do you really think that will happen with these politicians they don't know about hard labour or any labour for that matter do you think they will decide to leave a sitting the whole day doing nothing job and get paid millions for doing nothing. You are not serious.
The people of south Africa need to learn how to identify conversational fallacies and the fallacy that is used commonly in these situations is "whataboutism" ...Yes I did something but look what they did. What they do it fine. We all crimey criming so whats the issue. It's just point the finger is so it's basically a branch of people standing a circle and one person accuses the next and they point the finger straight ahead they don't even know who they're accusing but the finger is pointed and not at me...😁as long as you point in the finger you believe you innocent again that's just dumb dumb The reasons people give in explaining themselves in this specific situation a tactic 5 year olds use. South Africa's brand of government or quality of government is just stupid people who think they are smarter so they have a natural Instinct but to just point the finger... again it makes no sense means nothing they go straight to "whataboutism" they don't acknowledge pointing there finger. Like rubbing the head when worried or in trouble.
If the Affidavit cannot be used ? Where is Grannies and pensioners money? Please give them their money back, It hurts a lot, How long it is going to be solved to get their back, yet their money being used by the people who have platform to protect themselves😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😊
So, a whistleblower affidavit cannot be used to investigate those mentioned in it? Lame excuse for not pursuing looters, isn't it?
They protecting all the one who profited
No, this case of Matodzi now has new evidence presented. Those people will be arrested or summoned to court. His affidavit states he had accomplices which the law cannot deny. People have been implicated and will face the law based on evidence. In the case of EFF , it's bribery and corruption.
When is the next court case Nothing is gonna happen they just gonna say no evidence
Exactly the whole justice system has/is compromised.
They can be investigated. The affidavit just can't be used as evidence against anyone named in it. Makes no difference, though, since the ANC and SACP elites will be protected.
God have mercy on this so called South African justice system
Yes, because the System always defends the unrighteous, while the Nation has to accept whatever is told to them due to technicalities. As yet, a single powerful politician is to be charged for corruption crimes in South Africa, and again all these accused Perpetrators will get away Scot free as usual.
@@napsterking7500 Not only defends the unrighteous, it defends Black people so they feel they can commit any crime and get away with it.
@@bridges5659 Absolutely very true.
All going according to plan. The justice system in South Africa is a joke.
So who still wants South African banks "nationalized"?
I hope you don't have your money saved on them.
If you took your time to read, you would know EFF advocates for the establishment of a state owned bank. Not to turn existing banks into state banks.
@@keoagilechadibe1852 so that "bank" will be the VBS cousin..........
@@keoagilechadibe1852don't bother these people don't read they use their hate for everything black.
@@m.x.refrigxolani8365 once the allegations against EFF stand up in the court of law then you will have a leg to stand on.
@@pgmbodybuilding323 don't worry bro, we read and we read very well. And we know communists and flip-floppers brains very well.
Logical. Those implicated needs to be investigated.
This is nothing new. This smear campaign is very old. Don't you think they've been investigating this whole time?
No other people cannot be charged because of the affidavit but opens the actions of SAPS and the HAWKS to investigate whatever he inferred.
Horseshit….this was done INTENTIONALLY…
@@shinsvantil8642 obviously it's to destruct SA from the real problems
The affidavit may not be used against those mentioned as involved in the VBS heist, but the person who made it may testify in court. Is there any difference between the witness and the affidavit he deposed to?
You can not cross examine an affidavit but you can cross examine the person who made it, it's simple
I'm interested in knowing how people are going to be refunded their hard earned money? This Matodzi conviction,how is it going to pay back the money? Are all his assets going to be sold to pay at least few people who banked with vbs? I feel sorry for those who put their money in that bank💔
@@luciamatsabe6989 All these baastaardz , EFF must pay back the poor people's money.
EFF did not declare a donation from VBS Bank when they alleged that they received it. There was also Tax implications that Juliarse Will answer to.
Money leaves a trail, and when looked at with the help of a lifestyle audit, a clear picture will emerge.
I believe SARS has also been looking at that paper trail
Ah the South African untoucables strike again 🙊🙉🙈
This chartered accountant's testimony can be used. He can testify, can't he?
Maybe get legal experts' opinion.
The statement used is hearsay but if presented on oral examination by the witness after conviction of the accused person the evidence is admissible so it will depend on the willingness of the prosecution to invite the witness, but I would personally love to see those involved to have their day in court and account it’s so painful to see poor people getting robbed by those who hold office
Just follow the trail as per document...
Its logical, the law doesnt operate with emotion, you can make noise as you wish
I feel so sorry for them n those who seem to be desperate for EFF to be destroyed over a leaked affidavit of a case that was already finished...
Leaked? It's a public document once handed to court.
The affidavit itself isn't proof but it's a basis on which to call him as a witness. Even to compel him to testify.
The document did indeed leak. It is part of a plea bargaining agreement/process and not a public document as such (due to its nature), even if submitted to the court.
The wide dissemination of the document may serve to frustrate the administration of justice.
The document was leaked and the main purpose for leaking it is smear campaign nothing else.
Corruption at its best
It so cold agreement how it became an agreement between matondzi and the state to say implicat this and this we will give you les years?
Tainting tactics
Exactly and what worries me is seeing black people believing the nonsense by racist Pauli Van Wyk
Keep up the pressure Hawks - He and others will talk and then lock them up and throw away the keys............No Place in South Africa for the EFF.
Corruption
Convenient ne?
The affidavit was taken for a purpose and it will be used to assist in rhe investigations.
An affie Dawid should initiate a proper independent investigation.
😂👏 I called it.... “ this is their get out of jail free card” ..... (the leak)
The voice over sounds like Malema 😂
There is nothing preventing the State from getting a new affidavit as long as the new one differs materially from the leaked one.
The affidavit points to the evidence that will be used.
This commentary makes no sense: Matodzi s affidavit reveals what the NPA already knows; it is not meant to be evidence. There must be evidence that substantiate the allegations and that is the evidence that will be tested in.
Sad truth indeed 🙏
If that leaked affidavit cannot be used to prosecute more people then what are you hiding and who are you protecting?
Phala Phala not for me, VBS not for thee as well. The GNU /Gangster Network United is signaling it's business as usual for all the caders across the political landscape. Continue but apply more stealth.
Ofcourse it will not be permissable cauz "people in high places" are not being prosecuted...
Of all mentioned people in this avidavit afriforum and media chose only EFF for prosecution, why is that or shall we take upon ourselves to defend our leaders and our organisation because even the law enforcement sector seems controlled or highly influenced by certain forces to always go after the above mentioned people and we realise why
The woman is incoherent knows little of what criminal procedure
Then those mentioned should have the moral courage to resign from public service and embarassment. They dont have the moral basis to lead....
😮
I think I saw royalty among the list😂
Is like you asking a human being to become an animal. Do you really think that will happen with these politicians they don't know about hard labour or any labour for that matter do you think they will decide to leave a sitting the whole day doing nothing job and get paid millions for doing nothing. You are not serious.
Told u
U quick to judge 👍
Follow the money 💸
He will be called as witness against them , affidavit or not.
So if leaked to warn them what is coming and who blew the whistle, I expect this poor chat might be at risk
What about Shavimbo and Malema 🤔🤔🤔
What about Helen zille da and gupta?
This lady speaks so well ... fluent in English
That's my lady 😂😂 English buddy
These comments are condescending and racist.
Lazy to follow the money trail
Which is of course exactly why it was leaked.
Then, in Senzo Case, the same confession
Guys please help us on the security industry we have lots of undocumented people please help us
Cant be used because Anc is also involved afraid it will leak
😂😂😂😂😂😂 bring the evidence forward they try to silence EFF on the phala phala been there done that nothing new here
Rubbish
So take Van Wyks investigation evidence and prosecuted
That is not evidence but smear campaigning at it's best.
It wasn't me lol would obviously be the saying of the accused . Typical
Why is he wearing a red jacket? 🤔😏
So i cant post the truth as my comment is being blocked! Corrupt!
So thats why they leaked it
I knew it😒
The people of south Africa need to learn how to identify conversational fallacies and the fallacy that is used commonly in these situations is "whataboutism" ...Yes I did something but look what they did. What they do it fine. We all crimey criming so whats the issue.
It's just point the finger is so it's basically a branch of people standing a circle and one person accuses the next and they point the finger straight ahead they don't even know who they're accusing but the finger is pointed and not at me...😁as long as you point in the finger you believe you innocent again that's just dumb dumb The reasons people give in explaining themselves in this specific situation a tactic 5 year olds use. South Africa's brand of government or quality of government is just stupid people who think they are smarter so they have a natural Instinct but to just point the finger... again it makes no sense means nothing they go straight to "whataboutism" they don't acknowledge pointing there finger. Like rubbing the head when worried or in trouble.
Fall guy
🤣
😂😂😂
jojpjpj
What a joke
What a bs story to protect criminals
If the Affidavit cannot be used ? Where is Grannies and pensioners money? Please give them their money back, It hurts a lot, How long it is going to be solved to get their back, yet their money being used by the people who have platform to protect themselves😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😊