Tactical Phrases while Reviving/Bandaging: “Hey, make sure you’re good on ammunition while I heal you.” “I threw smoke in the direction of the enemy.” “Guy that I’m 49 Meters from, I’m on the way!….Aww damnit I died” (if I die) *checks map before reviving a Squad Lead* “Hey, Squad Lead I’m reviving? Your outpost is gone, might want to get a new one ASAP” “DO NOT GIVE UP, the spawn nearby is gone!” Voice chat and a microphone is ESSENTIAL to be a good medic.
Hey Gabatron, great video. I think one thing you forgot to mention is when there is mass casualties in one are it is best for medic’s to revive as many players as possible instead of bandaging the last player you just revived. I’ve seen this happen a lot we’re medics will bandage the last player that they’ve revived in will get gun down by lack of firepower from the team. I’ve noticed that if a lot of my teammates are down in one area I will try to revive as many as possible to have fire support and then focus on bandages. Great content by the way. Also I think you’ve might have mentioned it before in one of your videos but I learned that the medic also reduces suppression by the enemy if your close to one.
Agreed. I think 2 medics single handedly turned the tide of a defensive match on the last objective when I was in this game.. They and I told each person to bandage themselves more than 80% of the time, and often when they got revived they would shoot before bandaging because circumstance dictates necessity. Good comment.
I play competitive and public games quite a bit, and here's my thoughts: In a competitive game, where you will virtually always have a nearby outpost and a shitload of garrisons, someone dying isn't a big deal because they'll be back in the fight in a minute and a half. In these situations, a medic is a waste of a potential combat role. In a public game, there may be three garrisons, one is being camped, one is too far away, so only one is relevant and half the team is running around without outposts. In these situations a single medic can sustain momentum in an attack of several squads over hundreds of meters, or can help clutch the defense of a hard cap. I play medic all the time in public games but I don't touch it in competitive games.
What if there are mass casualties in battle and you need to revive some of your team so the point won’t get over run ? You make a good point but I honestly think it’s better to have them than to not have them at all.
Due to there being no server browser on console and there being a general lack of communication sometimes, the medic is vital to hold an objective or sustaining an attack, my medic is a far higher level than other roles as I use it so often to such success
Would a medic that sticks in the thick of a fight help his team maintain a stronger presence in the long run? If a team has a medic and the enemy team doesnt, his team will have faster revives assuming he doesnt die, which he should be doing anyways. Also a medic is a great attacker buffer since in a coordinated attack he can bring downed soldiers faster, therefore maintaining the attack literally alive.
I love playing the medic class, one of my favorites, I find almost no one uses this class, and when people do, they use it as just an infantry unit and don't ever revive anyone, and I also find since people don't hardly use medic, everyone just bleeds out before I can get to them even after communicating with them telling them I'm coming
Shout out to my fellow medic players just Rember nobody wants to play medic but every one wants a medic. I see you keep up the good gameplay we truly are the unsung heroes.
It may be a bit overlapping with some other points, but I'd also add: plan your retread: When going for the revive, plan your movement along cover, try to revive out of cover and know how to get back into cover as fast as possible. While reviving also say to the downed player to get to the cover you selected and bandage there, as there could still be enemies watching him.
Good job with the guide and mad respect for addressing where the medic isn't as useful. I'm still in camp 'medic is useless' (personally I prefer the term 'too situational') and I'd love them to at least get a decent amount of ammo but I can certainly say that playing medic is a lot of fun. It's also a good starting role since it provides an individual achievable goal that doesn't require any knowledge of how sectors work and such. My best advice that hasn't been covered in the video: don't get mad when people give up when you're close. For some it has just become muscle memory to hit escape and redeploy. In some cases the medic indicator is on top or bottom of the screen (I forgot which) and the distance is hidden. My personal rule is that if a medic isn't within 20 m, he may as well be on the other side of the map. All the more reason to directly address players, to remind them that you're on the way. Also some moraly ambiguous players won't hesitate to throw a nade at a friendly body if they feel an enemy is somewhere close to them. Be aware of that... also sorry in advance because it was probably me ;)
It is highly situational, but those situations do happen regularly in public games. I wish I would have put something in the vid regarding not getting frustrated with people giving up. I don’t mind when people do it, but if you are going to give up and see a medic heading your direction you really should let them know as to not waste their time. I’ll hold on for a medic at about 60-70m if they are heading towards me, but if at 50m I don’t hear back from them I usually give up. Communication is way more important to the medic role than most people think. Thanks for your input!
How can ANYONE flak the medic? The most game changing role of any game? It's literally one of THE most important things of any shooter game. Hell, Battlefield have amazing Medics who go through hell to revive his team. But they're not as tactical about the approach as Hell Let Loose is. But even still, in a tactical game like Hell Let Loose, a medic is a game changer. He's the reason why you're not in the spawn menu picking your next spawn point. And why your seconds are spent more in the battle than in the menu. Medics are lifesavers. And I thank the medics anytime I get revived and back in the fight. They are the literal bandage of the team.
…it’s widely considered the worst role in the game for good reason. I guess you could argue for automatic rifleman as well. Low ammo with a bad gun. Manpower losses don’t matter. Someone tested it and it’s faster and safer on average to redeploy instead of waiting for a revive. The best part of medic is the smoke grenade tbh. Bandage box is a joke. Half of players deaths don’t even result in getting downed. And half of those are not in a position to be revived. And half of those should and probably will redeploy without waiting for you anyway. Useless class? No? The worst? Probably. An automatic rifleman is probably going to kill a lot more enemies than the medic saves. At the end of the day play for fun but don’t pretend medic is good or game changing. There’s very few medics anyways. You could remove them and the game wouldn’t change much at all. I don’t even think I’d notice. Nice for RP though.
Great guide; as Corpsman i use to stick to my squad, usually behind the SL and the Support guy to be an extra pair of eyes for 'em and a bit of extra cover too, or... with the MG if the SL it's at the assault. Not be seen it's the best for the Corpsman, leave those white helmets at home... prone and prone and static should be your default/mandatory possitions, the proximity chat and the smoke are your best friends or resources to do your job; and be extra carefull on the move and in movement, use hard covers and never be ahead of your semi or full auto weapons. Also, idk if it has changed on the U12... but one of the benefits of have a Corpsman on your team is or was, that the suppression effect on your squad mates lasted less and was smaller; i began as Corspman but switched to support quickly, i like to have garrisons, AT guns and repair stations when i check out my map more than i like to see alive squad team mates, but the Corpsman it's a good role imo if you go for terrain domination/defense and if you go with care and four eyes.
I understand why BM didn't want to do tickets, but I would like it if your deaths had a larger impact on the manpower resource. Right now it doesn't really matter if you are hemorrhaging deaths as long as there is a node or two built. This has lead to a 'meta' where players more or less yeet themselves. I understand they didn't want to remake Post Scriptum, but they have made a system that doesn't really have any negative consequences to death. It keeps the pace of the game high but that seems to be what people like about it. I agree more with you though.
@@GebatronGaming maybe they could increase the spawn timer if you die many times very quickly or are low on nodes. Some of these maps dragging on for 90 minutes are terrible. There should be a way to overrun the enemy through deaths. Current meta is land grabbing - deaths mean nothing, it’s all about finding and clearing garrisons and OPs
Some of my favorite moments in this game is mixed with 2 squads on an objective. Especially if I’m the only medic. When all “hell is let loose” I’m able to be constantly reviving and helping keep the pressure on. I’m close to getting the Desmond Doss achievement. It’ll happen eventually. Edit* I wouldn’t mind completely scrapping the pistol in favor of more rifle ammo.
Agree with some of the comments where you start going to pick up a downed teammate but when you get to them, they’ve just force died and you’ve wasted a smoke grenade. I’d love another couple of smoke grenades in the load out
Hey Gabatron. I was wondering if you knew or could find out whether the precision strike will destroy default garrisons on the offensive game mode? I play on console where we have no server browser. As a result about 2/3 games played are offensive game mode. Precision strike is coming soon with update 12, and having the ability to air strike default garrisons will have a massive impact on how the majority of console games are played.
Great, thank you. In addition to manual dismantlement, a satchel charge will destroy a default garrison. From what I've seen the precision strike looks like an airdropped satchel charge so I assumed it'd also take down the default garrisons.
You’re right. I was wrong. Satchels do destroy default garrisons. Rockets do not and neither do any air attacks. My guess is that it’s this way so you can’t just know where they are and destroy them remotely.
The problem I have is sticking with my squad most of the time I get newbies and they stay to defend but they are like 2 points behind or they just straight up leave me
hello ^^ i have a question why cant i play HLL? I have an rtx 2060 , i7 11700kf 2560 x 1440 165hz monitor 16 GB ram m2 ssd 1tb and i cant even run it on 60 fps
That's rough. HLL is notoriously hard on PCs. I have a 3090 and sometimes struggle to get above 90-100 on some maps. The biggest boost I ever got to performance was when I went in the BIOS and made sure my RAM was running at it's proper speeds and timings. Maybe check that to get a boost. The game just wasn't built to run smooth. Good luck!
The BIGGEST drawback for a medic is that I don't get my grenades back if I am revived. Even if there is a medic 15 meters away, most of the time I will respawn just for the grenades /smokes. Make a tier 3 medic that combines supply class, let him drop a grenade box as well. It takes more time for me to run around looking for an ammo box, IF a supply guy dropped one, than just respawn and come back
I used to like playing medic, it was fun but I found it useless for the most part. The only time I see it being useful anymore is offensive from the beaches, even after you cap that first point, it is kind of in needed after that
They do! So do officers. I didn’t include that in the video because I don’t know all the details in how that works. IE: how far away, how much reduction, medic vs officer vs both etc. But you are correct. They do help with suppression.
@@GebatronGaming If I'm playing medic, and there's no support or assault (german, russian), when I die, I'll swap roles, drop my other boxes, then switch back to medic. Unless we're like about to get overrun or something lol.
medic is pointless, thats why no one play a medic now, bec no one even wait for you, all this bf and cod players just pops out and spawn again and u cant drag a body so u must revive somone with no cover... before patch 7a lot ppl want that mechanic and now this kids from bf and cod dont want this, u said in other video like u can spend this time for other thinks... oh yea u can do a lot thinks in 5 seconds... propably die trying revive someone without cover xD and when u revive u don't get profit, a small amount of experience and u get 1 manpower back to the stockpile, but u all even know what give u manpower? if you have more, you will spawn faster, like if u have 500 or 600 u will wait only 30 sec on gari not 60 but medic give u back only one but u need like 100, show me a guy who have 100 or more revives in game and now after changes even without nodes u get a lot supply, so devs maked a medic totally useless, thats why no one w8 for him, thats why no one play him, same with engineer no one want play this class, also support, best clas in game and ppl dont want play him and they choose support only for mp40... it used to be a very good game, now it's a joke
I agree the respawn system greatly diminishes the medic's impact on the field. However, the manpower resource does not effect spawn times in any way. That's a myth. It does seem that it's getting harder to find helpful players as time goes on. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
@@GebatronGaming when I was in clan they told me its working like this but if its not give u faster spawn then for what we have manpower? squad have tickets system and I think is better
Currently manpower is only used for commander orders. You’re right that HLL does not have a ticket system, which would greatly increase the medic’s usefulness, but whenever a player dies it drains manpower. This would be great and function similar to a ticket system but because there is a base resource gain of +30/min it’s really hard to lose enough manpower to effect the commander in any meaningful way.
Tactical Phrases while Reviving/Bandaging: “Hey, make sure you’re good on ammunition while I heal you.”
“I threw smoke in the direction of the enemy.”
“Guy that I’m 49 Meters from, I’m on the way!….Aww damnit I died” (if I die)
*checks map before reviving a Squad Lead* “Hey, Squad Lead I’m reviving? Your outpost is gone, might want to get a new one ASAP”
“DO NOT GIVE UP, the spawn nearby is gone!”
Voice chat and a microphone is ESSENTIAL to be a good medic.
This is excellent advice. Thanks!
Hey Gabatron, great video. I think one thing you forgot to mention is when there is mass casualties in one are it is best for medic’s to revive as many players as possible instead of bandaging the last player you just revived. I’ve seen this happen a lot we’re medics will bandage the last player that they’ve revived in will get gun down by lack of firepower from the team. I’ve noticed that if a lot of my teammates are down in one area I will try to revive as many as possible to have fire support and then focus on bandages. Great content by the way. Also I think you’ve might have mentioned it before in one of your videos but I learned that the medic also reduces suppression by the enemy if your close to one.
Agreed. I think 2 medics single handedly turned the tide of a defensive match on the last objective when I was in this game.. They and I told each person to bandage themselves more than 80% of the time, and often when they got revived they would shoot before bandaging because circumstance dictates necessity. Good comment.
I play competitive and public games quite a bit, and here's my thoughts:
In a competitive game, where you will virtually always have a nearby outpost and a shitload of garrisons, someone dying isn't a big deal because they'll be back in the fight in a minute and a half. In these situations, a medic is a waste of a potential combat role. In a public game, there may be three garrisons, one is being camped, one is too far away, so only one is relevant and half the team is running around without outposts. In these situations a single medic can sustain momentum in an attack of several squads over hundreds of meters, or can help clutch the defense of a hard cap. I play medic all the time in public games but I don't touch it in competitive games.
What if there are mass casualties in battle and you need to revive some of your team so the point won’t get over run ? You make a good point but I honestly think it’s better to have them than to not have them at all.
Due to there being no server browser on console and there being a general lack of communication sometimes, the medic is vital to hold an objective or sustaining an attack, my medic is a far higher level than other roles as I use it so often to such success
Would a medic that sticks in the thick of a fight help his team maintain a stronger presence in the long run? If a team has a medic and the enemy team doesnt, his team will have faster revives assuming he doesnt die, which he should be doing anyways. Also a medic is a great attacker buffer since in a coordinated attack he can bring downed soldiers faster, therefore maintaining the attack literally alive.
I love playing the medic class, one of my favorites, I find almost no one uses this class, and when people do, they use it as just an infantry unit and don't ever revive anyone, and I also find since people don't hardly use medic, everyone just bleeds out before I can get to them even after communicating with them telling them I'm coming
Shout out to my fellow medic players just Rember nobody wants to play medic but every one wants a medic. I see you keep up the good gameplay we truly are the unsung heroes.
It may be a bit overlapping with some other points, but I'd also add: plan your retread: When going for the revive, plan your movement along cover, try to revive out of cover and know how to get back into cover as fast as possible. While reviving also say to the downed player to get to the cover you selected and bandage there, as there could still be enemies watching him.
Good job with the guide and mad respect for addressing where the medic isn't as useful.
I'm still in camp 'medic is useless' (personally I prefer the term 'too situational') and I'd love them to at least get a decent amount of ammo but I can certainly say that playing medic is a lot of fun. It's also a good starting role since it provides an individual achievable goal that doesn't require any knowledge of how sectors work and such.
My best advice that hasn't been covered in the video: don't get mad when people give up when you're close. For some it has just become muscle memory to hit escape and redeploy. In some cases the medic indicator is on top or bottom of the screen (I forgot which) and the distance is hidden. My personal rule is that if a medic isn't within 20 m, he may as well be on the other side of the map. All the more reason to directly address players, to remind them that you're on the way.
Also some moraly ambiguous players won't hesitate to throw a nade at a friendly body if they feel an enemy is somewhere close to them. Be aware of that... also sorry in advance because it was probably me ;)
It is highly situational, but those situations do happen regularly in public games. I wish I would have put something in the vid regarding not getting frustrated with people giving up. I don’t mind when people do it, but if you are going to give up and see a medic heading your direction you really should let them know as to not waste their time. I’ll hold on for a medic at about 60-70m if they are heading towards me, but if at 50m I don’t hear back from them I usually give up. Communication is way more important to the medic role than most people think. Thanks for your input!
How can ANYONE flak the medic? The most game changing role of any game? It's literally one of THE most important things of any shooter game. Hell, Battlefield have amazing Medics who go through hell to revive his team. But they're not as tactical about the approach as Hell Let Loose is. But even still, in a tactical game like Hell Let Loose, a medic is a game changer. He's the reason why you're not in the spawn menu picking your next spawn point. And why your seconds are spent more in the battle than in the menu. Medics are lifesavers. And I thank the medics anytime I get revived and back in the fight. They are the literal bandage of the team.
…it’s widely considered the worst role in the game for good reason.
I guess you could argue for automatic rifleman as well.
Low ammo with a bad gun. Manpower losses don’t matter. Someone tested it and it’s faster and safer on average to redeploy instead of waiting for a revive. The best part of medic is the smoke grenade tbh. Bandage box is a joke.
Half of players deaths don’t even result in getting downed. And half of those are not in a position to be revived. And half of those should and probably will redeploy without waiting for you anyway.
Useless class? No? The worst? Probably. An automatic rifleman is probably going to kill a lot more enemies than the medic saves.
At the end of the day play for fun but don’t pretend medic is good or game changing. There’s very few medics anyways. You could remove them and the game wouldn’t change much at all. I don’t even think I’d notice. Nice for RP though.
Great guide; as Corpsman i use to stick to my squad, usually behind the SL and the Support guy to be an extra pair of eyes for 'em and a bit of extra cover too, or... with the MG if the SL it's at the assault. Not be seen it's the best for the Corpsman, leave those white helmets at home... prone and prone and static should be your default/mandatory possitions, the proximity chat and the smoke are your best friends or resources to do your job; and be extra carefull on the move and in movement, use hard covers and never be ahead of your semi or full auto weapons. Also, idk if it has changed on the U12... but one of the benefits of have a Corpsman on your team is or was, that the suppression effect on your squad mates lasted less and was smaller; i began as Corspman but switched to support quickly, i like to have garrisons, AT guns and repair stations when i check out my map more than i like to see alive squad team mates, but the Corpsman it's a good role imo if you go for terrain domination/defense and if you go with care and four eyes.
Wearing the white helmet is dumb, but until they add an actual medic helmet I'll be rocking it 24/7
This was actually quite a well thought out guide well done
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
Always look forward to your guides. Great help.
Thanks! I appreciate it. Thanks for watching!
Great guide! Thanks for all the info
Thanks for watching!
I wish Manpower also counted as Spawn Tickets. It would also encourage people to keep nodes on the map.
I understand why BM didn't want to do tickets, but I would like it if your deaths had a larger impact on the manpower resource. Right now it doesn't really matter if you are hemorrhaging deaths as long as there is a node or two built. This has lead to a 'meta' where players more or less yeet themselves. I understand they didn't want to remake Post Scriptum, but they have made a system that doesn't really have any negative consequences to death. It keeps the pace of the game high but that seems to be what people like about it. I agree more with you though.
@@GebatronGaming maybe they could increase the spawn timer if you die many times very quickly or are low on nodes. Some of these maps dragging on for 90 minutes are terrible. There should be a way to overrun the enemy through deaths. Current meta is land grabbing - deaths mean nothing, it’s all about finding and clearing garrisons and OPs
Some of my favorite moments in this game is mixed with 2 squads on an objective. Especially if I’m the only medic. When all “hell is let loose” I’m able to be constantly reviving and helping keep the pressure on.
I’m close to getting the Desmond Doss achievement. It’ll happen eventually. Edit* I wouldn’t mind completely scrapping the pistol in favor of more rifle ammo.
excellent content mate!!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Agree with some of the comments where you start going to pick up a downed teammate but when you get to them, they’ve just force died and you’ve wasted a smoke grenade. I’d love another couple of smoke grenades in the load out
Hey Gabatron.
I was wondering if you knew or could find out whether the precision strike will destroy default garrisons on the offensive game mode?
I play on console where we have no server browser. As a result about 2/3 games played are offensive game mode.
Precision strike is coming soon with update 12, and having the ability to air strike default garrisons will have a massive impact on how the majority of console games are played.
Hello! No the precision air strike does not destroy default garrisons. Default garrisons, at least as of writing this, must be taken down by hand.
Great, thank you.
In addition to manual dismantlement, a satchel charge will destroy a default garrison.
From what I've seen the precision strike looks like an airdropped satchel charge so I assumed it'd also take down the default garrisons.
You’re right. I was wrong. Satchels do destroy default garrisons. Rockets do not and neither do any air attacks. My guess is that it’s this way so you can’t just know where they are and destroy them remotely.
The problem I have is sticking with my squad most of the time I get newbies and they stay to defend but they are like 2 points behind or they just straight up leave me
I think a good video would be about grenades, how far do they go, standing, vs prone. Running vs still? Does it vary a few meters every throw, angles?
I’ll add it to the list! 🫡
@@GebatronGaming And how to consistenly lob them into a window! Somehow my army boots are grenade magnets.
hello ^^
i have a question why cant i play HLL?
I have an rtx 2060 , i7 11700kf
2560 x 1440 165hz monitor
16 GB ram
m2 ssd 1tb
and i cant even run it on 60 fps
That's rough. HLL is notoriously hard on PCs. I have a 3090 and sometimes struggle to get above 90-100 on some maps. The biggest boost I ever got to performance was when I went in the BIOS and made sure my RAM was running at it's proper speeds and timings. Maybe check that to get a boost. The game just wasn't built to run smooth. Good luck!
@@GebatronGaming Thank you ! I will test it but i have to get someone to help me cause i dont wanna destroy my own pc cause i do something in the bios
The BIGGEST drawback for a medic is that I don't get my grenades back if I am revived. Even if there is a medic 15 meters away, most of the time I will respawn just for the grenades /smokes. Make a tier 3 medic that combines supply class, let him drop a grenade box as well. It takes more time for me to run around looking for an ammo box, IF a supply guy dropped one, than just respawn and come back
Omg was the no ticket guy the guy from hogans heros?
Haha! No sorry. It’s a scene from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.
I used to like playing medic, it was fun but I found it useless for the most part. The only time I see it being useful anymore is offensive from the beaches, even after you cap that first point, it is kind of in needed after that
Team Medic
Don't nearby medics reduce the effects of being suppressed?
They do! So do officers. I didn’t include that in the video because I don’t know all the details in how that works. IE: how far away, how much reduction, medic vs officer vs both etc. But you are correct. They do help with suppression.
@@GebatronGaming If I'm playing medic, and there's no support or assault (german, russian), when I die, I'll swap roles, drop my other boxes, then switch back to medic. Unless we're like about to get overrun or something lol.
I wish the Russian medic got a Tokarev.. I’d play that sht all day😔
You mean instead of the revolver? I would like that. The reload on the revolver takes forever.
@@GebatronGaming Yeah I’d like tokarev at least on the class that only gets a pistol 🥴
medic is pointless, thats why no one play a medic now, bec no one even wait for you, all this bf and cod players just pops out and spawn again and u cant drag a body so u must revive somone with no cover... before patch 7a lot ppl want that mechanic and now this kids from bf and cod dont want this, u said in other video like u can spend this time for other thinks... oh yea u can do a lot thinks in 5 seconds... propably die trying revive someone without cover xD and when u revive u don't get profit, a small amount of experience and u get 1 manpower back to the stockpile, but u all even know what give u manpower? if you have more, you will spawn faster, like if u have 500 or 600 u will wait only 30 sec on gari not 60 but medic give u back only one but u need like 100, show me a guy who have 100 or more revives in game and now after changes even without nodes u get a lot supply, so devs maked a medic totally useless, thats why no one w8 for him, thats why no one play him, same with engineer no one want play this class, also support, best clas in game and ppl dont want play him and they choose support only for mp40... it used to be a very good game, now it's a joke
I agree the respawn system greatly diminishes the medic's impact on the field. However, the manpower resource does not effect spawn times in any way. That's a myth. It does seem that it's getting harder to find helpful players as time goes on. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
@@GebatronGaming when I was in clan they told me its working like this but if its not give u faster spawn then for what we have manpower? squad have tickets system and I think is better
Currently manpower is only used for commander orders. You’re right that HLL does not have a ticket system, which would greatly increase the medic’s usefulness, but whenever a player dies it drains manpower. This would be great and function similar to a ticket system but because there is a base resource gain of +30/min it’s really hard to lose enough manpower to effect the commander in any meaningful way.
Don't forget to roleplaying as medic, it's always hilarious. "You have now a 3 hole, your boyfriend will like it" ⛑