Norwegian Star rescues the Avenir sailboat in the Atlantic Ocean

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июн 2012
  • On June 26th 2012, the Norwegian Star Cruise Ship rescued the Avenir at about 10 in the morning. Note that the size of the waves in the video during the rescue are smaller than what they were sailing in because of the ship's ability to use its side thrusters to calm the swells to make the rescue less difficult.

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  • @paanikki
    @paanikki 11 лет назад +36

    A broken part of the emergency rudder is visible in the cockpit. The orange storm jib and storm trysail have also been used. The crew has tried all they can to make it to the shore on their own, despite of the rudder damage.
    When the boat is drifting in rough seas for a long time, most crewmembers are seasick, no matter how experienced sailors they are. When you are REALLY seasick, you don't care if you live or die, and doing complicated repairs is plain impossible.

    • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
      @TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 года назад +2

      They should have tried not taking that POS Catalina day cruiser into the Atlantic.

    • @GERntleMAN
      @GERntleMAN 2 года назад

      Yeah, but still almost all the modern day "bluewater" sailboats have free standing rudders. It's a joke...a true oceancrosser ALWAYS uses skegged rudders if they mean to travel safe. A half keel or long keel is not a must, but better still than a fin keel. Also you don't use watermakers. They are fancy shmancy modern luxury for those anchoring a lot but NEVER rely on power-dependent equipment. I mean jeez, rule of thumb: per 1 day of voyage you store 2 days of water.
      Good thing we sail a yawl...if your massive skegged rudder were to break, we just use our besan to steer

  • @fredread9216
    @fredread9216 9 месяцев назад +1

    I have crossed oceans on my 44’ sailboat. One problem is that many modern cruising sailboats have rudders that are just too exposed to damage and failure. Don’t think that these people were fool hardy. We don’t know the facts. Could be and often is injury or sickness of a small crew. My wife and I sailed mostly with just the 2 of us. Our boats were clearly of a more stout variety than this one. Yes, great job Norwegian! And the RIB inflatable is the perfect boat for that job. My boat also had a complete back up rudder in the form of a self steering system, or wind driven autopilot.

    • @user-hl1tw8rs5g
      @user-hl1tw8rs5g 4 месяца назад +1

      I'm sitting here watching videos about sail boats that have lost their rudders and wondering if it wouldn't be a good idea to have a plan B?

  • @geishlichkeit
    @geishlichkeit 5 лет назад +2

    Marvelous rescue, I like the way they do it and still the crews of the Avenir are so strong to survive

  • @deltaboy767
    @deltaboy767 5 лет назад +15

    Way to go NCL Captain, truly amazing. That's a true seaman right there.

    • @ih8stairs812
      @ih8stairs812 4 года назад +1

      Most likely ordered by the coastguard offense not to respond to distress.

  • @matrixi4i
    @matrixi4i 11 лет назад +13

    Had the same situation in the Southern Ocean heading for Chile.We ran a drogue from the bow aft to stb and another from the stern on stb side tied yo bow drogue and to a 25 litre jerry can full of water and sailed for 3 days holding our course.Limited sail area and you trim and steer using the aft drogue. Every-one handles emergencies differently and Im not condeming any-one

  • @grahamburbage7686
    @grahamburbage7686 2 года назад +1

    I am glad we have so many sailors commenting, it would have driven me mad not knowing what went wrong.

  • @pg911a5
    @pg911a5 9 лет назад +179

    the steering was out and they had been adrift for several days when this occured they had no water cause the water machine broke and they were almost out of food a couple of the people on board were quite seasick and were very dehydrated. i race in the same series as avenir and they are excellent sailers. it was recovered about a week later by the captain.

    • @donc9275
      @donc9275 9 лет назад +20

      So the rudder broke off, the same thing happened to Mike Harker aboard his Hunter 466, Mike was able to make an emergency rudder out of a door and a spinnaker pole. After the door fell apart he used a sheet of marine plywood he had onboard. But luck would slap him in the face and his spinnaker pole broke, but then good luck embraced him and a fellow sailor sailed to him with another spinnaker pole. Hunter shipped him a new rudder and off he went on his voyage, with yes a great story to talk about.

    • @pg911a5
      @pg911a5 9 лет назад +4

      well obviously they didnt think of that or maybe they did the same thing and it broke too and the cruise ship was the fellow sailor giving assistance

    • @donc9275
      @donc9275 9 лет назад +8

      Peter Gnocchi The problem there is if you abandon your boat at sea it is then open to being salvaged by any other person at sea. Lucky in this case the owners went back out and found their boat, had it towed back and fixed it. www.eastbayri.com/news/avenir-lost-and-found-at-sea/

    • @pg911a5
      @pg911a5 9 лет назад +2

      it is unfortunate that that is the case but im sure they thought that over before abandoning it

    • @AndysEastCoastAdventures
      @AndysEastCoastAdventures 8 лет назад +5

      +Don C I was just going to mention an emergency rudder. As you say a door or a locker cover tied to either the spinnaker pole or boat hook lashed to the pushpit will get you some steerage. Enough for emergency purposes anyways.

  • @lewisbland263
    @lewisbland263 5 лет назад +1

    Glad the Norwegian Star was there to help

  • @johnnyohness
    @johnnyohness 11 лет назад +1

    yes yes hell yes..your not going to miss anything by keeping the camera on the topic no matter what...you can watch it over and over again. One second of the topic and you can miss something very important....on the other hand I appreciate you doing this and sharing it. I still enjoyed the heck out of it. lol.

  • @xboxpirates2000
    @xboxpirates2000 10 лет назад +4

    what camara did you use to record? looks really smooth

  • @stephenblake2196
    @stephenblake2196 2 года назад

    Lucky that the cruise ship was their and stop to assist?? Good pr for them?? They need it ?? That's the rules of the road?? Never leave a seamen stranded if you can help?? Awesome job !!!! This should be sent to news channels??? Now!!

  • @jeroenjansen2709
    @jeroenjansen2709 4 года назад +18

    Just when something happens the camera turns away.

  • @majorpygge-phartt2643
    @majorpygge-phartt2643 Год назад

    I've got a lifejacket a bit like they've got, I used to use it for rafting local rivers when they were swollen to just the right level.

  • @AgentRafa
    @AgentRafa 6 лет назад +6

    Great camera work, like a pro lol

  • @duaness
    @duaness 7 лет назад +76

    The ships thrusters don't calm the seas...the fact that the sailboat is in the lee side of the cruise ship blocks the wind and the waves...

    • @benmac7315
      @benmac7315 6 лет назад +7

      duaness aabb my thoughts exactly the wash from the thrusters would be turbulent and potentially dangerous for the frb. If they are going to give commentary then they should actually know what they are saying.

    • @FubarGuy666
      @FubarGuy666 4 года назад

      I don`t believe they were so far from land. The ship is probably waiting for the high tide to enter port and the camera angle was chosen to hide the fact. My basis for this assertion is that there are no crew leaning on the rails watching the dramatic rescue and ready to provide any assistance.

    • @voornaam3191
      @voornaam3191 4 года назад +2

      And the cruise ship needs a lot of power to prevent a collision. The wind pushes it to the yacht.

    • @charonstyxferryman
      @charonstyxferryman 4 года назад +2

      @@FubarGuy666 Quote you : "I don`t believe they were so far from land ... and the camera angle was chosen to hide the fact."
      Being close the shore makes it even more dangerous than out in the ocean,
      e.g. underwater reefs

    • @FubarGuy666
      @FubarGuy666 4 года назад

      @@charonstyxferryman Hi Lars, the conditions were totally benign and that ship was probably just waiting for the high tide to enter the port. Yes in heavy weather it is good to have lots of sea room, i.e. as you correctly state no reefs or rocks, etc.. However the sea is calm and if that ship was indeed there to help the dramatic rescue all the bored crew would be lining the rails to watch and offer assistance if necessary, such as lowering a lifeboat to save the kids...

  • @boatcharter41
    @boatcharter41 11 лет назад +3

    Thank you. I can't see the rudder but the boat didn;t come up stern high enough to appreciate the lack of rudder. It is very easy to fabricate a jury rig rudder, just with any wood part taken from the boat.
    There are many strange things on this boat, look they have deployed a small drogue right on the stern?, and the swimming ladder is down. The drouge can be used for steering with a little practice as good as rudder, but it it needs a large deploying line.

  • @bobv8219
    @bobv8219 4 года назад

    Rare moment nice capture. All survivors.

  • @Kyleinasailing
    @Kyleinasailing 8 лет назад +4

    I don't subscribe to going on a cruise but I can understand why so many people do. On the other hand if you go out to sea on a sailing boat then you must understand that it isn't a cruise - it's an acceptance that you can be, 100%, at the mercy of the natural elements and of which anything can happen. I know from experience and believe you me, you never stop learning. Don't play with the natural elements. Start, worshiping the sun god, tomorrow.

  • @moussaeladjaoui8454
    @moussaeladjaoui8454 6 лет назад +1

    bless u guys

  • @ErickVeldhuis
    @ErickVeldhuis 11 лет назад

    thanx, but do these boats have a skeg? very uncommon for a modern cruiser/racer.

  • @danbartlett8033
    @danbartlett8033 10 лет назад

    Good idea! Thanks!

  • @ImranKhan-jr5fj
    @ImranKhan-jr5fj Год назад

    great job

  • @Simon-ep9lo
    @Simon-ep9lo 4 года назад

    What are the softcocks being rescued for? Mast ok sails are ok doesn't appear to taking water crew is just sitting in the cockpit, frightened of a few waves?

  • @CTBob
    @CTBob 11 лет назад +102

    I wish the last ten seconds of this video showed the cameraman falling into the ocean.

    • @AlexKall
      @AlexKall 4 года назад +1

      Why?

    • @phoebe5843
      @phoebe5843 4 года назад +3

      @@AlexKall i guess because he didn't show the video of the last guy that was rescued .

    • @ahsanmohammed1
      @ahsanmohammed1 4 года назад +6

      Agreed. What an idiot. Missed so many key moments!

    • @FubarGuy666
      @FubarGuy666 3 года назад +1

      @@ahsanmohammed1 There were no key moments. This is 100% fake

    • @acoba15
      @acoba15 3 года назад

      I believe that in this incident one of the crew members went over board and missing after encountering rough seas. The boat was finally recovered after a year later

  • @tommytwotugs
    @tommytwotugs 11 лет назад

    Look at around 6.05. The boat pitches heavinly a few times and you can see the top of the Skeg with definatly no rudder underneath it.

  • @Creole_Rebellion
    @Creole_Rebellion 4 года назад

    Great job you guys are ROCKSTARS

  • @elbaguer1
    @elbaguer1 6 лет назад +25

    "because of the ship's ability to use its side thrusters to calm the swells to make the rescue less difficult." ?!. Been working on ships for 20 years + ...never heard of it. Do they calm the wind as well?

    • @lamppuu1
      @lamppuu1 4 года назад +2

      "The captain is flattening the waves!" 🤣 It sounded like something you would say when high on weed. 😂 The boat was probably just turning, would you say? Or trying to be still? Im not sure, but it definitely wasn't "flattening the waves"

  • @RusstafaB
    @RusstafaB 4 года назад

    Wow that was pretty amazing and scarey

  • @dusancville
    @dusancville 2 года назад

    Amazing rescue crew with helmets on the boat at the sea ....

  • @jakobthoboll2759
    @jakobthoboll2759 3 года назад +1

    Looking in the comment section makes me angry: We have a lot of Seemen here ( this is NOT a Typo!) assuming to know everything better than the Seamen on board that boat.
    We have roughly 10 minutes of footage. We have no knowledge of the health state aboard, of the state of boat-electricity and so on. Nobody. Definitly Nobody will make the decision easily to leave boat, when not necessary, since a floating boat is the safest thing to be on for a human on open seas. Already this boarding maneuver - although perfectly done - contains risks for every one. So avoiding this would be best solution. BUT: Human lifes are more important than keeping the ship. We see here a dangerous but well done rescue maneuver, not more, not less. So stop judging people, you don't know and whos situation you can'T even imagine.

  • @michaelm32aa
    @michaelm32aa 4 года назад +14

    the camera man must have been drunk.

  • @clifford4719
    @clifford4719 10 лет назад +8

    As mentioned below, it looks like this boat has lost its rudder (take a look at the trailing edge of the keel when she's beam on riding a wave, you can see it is missing). It also looks like the the emergency tiller in place. The hull appears undamaged and the boat is not taking on water...
    I imagine that the yacht lost steerage, the crew, assumed that the steering linkage from the wheel failed... They deployed the emergency tiller gear which had no effect.
    Was this a Mayday scenario? No, probably not. I say that because the boat is not at risk of sinking and there is no immediate danger to life. It most certainly is a PanPan call. Worst case, if no one was around to help, they could have fashioned a rudder from interior parts and lashed it to the transom to provide some form of steerage.... easy to say sat in a cosy saloon while tied up in a marina :)

    • @clifford4719
      @clifford4719 10 лет назад

      Martin WinWeb I wasn't there Martin so can't answer your question... :)

    • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
      @TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 года назад

      Really? Lost their rudder? What was the clue? The makeshift tiller?

  • @simonmoore8414
    @simonmoore8414 4 года назад +4

    a good advert for an emergency auxiliary rudder..

    • @voornaam3191
      @voornaam3191 4 года назад +2

      Every sailing yacht has an emergency rudder on board. It is called the boom or the spinaker pole. Stick it into the water, tie it firmly to the stern and you can steer (a bit) again. You might add your dining table. Sometimes you can simply attach an emergency helm to the normal rudder.
      The other option is pulling a heavy duty storm ancre by two long lines, one port and one starboard. Winch in the port line and you'll go there. In order to get more momentum, you fix your boom across the stern. Just fix a block to both ends of the boom, for your steering lines. For some ships this construction has worked out well.
      Just giving up your perfectly safe yacht is weird. Know your options (read books, attend safety courses) and be creative.
      But, the stormy Norwegian coast is not where you want to wreck your boat. When the rudder is stuck, not just gone, you have a big problem. But then you can always do the "heaving to" manouver and you have plenty of time. So I don't understand this situation. Why a rescue in the middle of the ocean? How long had they been there? Why were the sails down?
      This crew survived, that's the most important thing. I wasn't there, and this fool with his camera was babbling nonsense all the time. What a waste.

    • @simonmoore8414
      @simonmoore8414 4 года назад

      Voor Naam good info, thanks for the tips. Never thought about using the spinnaker pole. It’s got me thinking that it might be worth constructing an auxiliary system based on the spinnaker pole and a piece of engineered wood or steel that can be quickly linked up to it to form a stronger rudder..

    • @voornaam3191
      @voornaam3191 4 года назад +1

      @@simonmoore8414 One of my sailing friends warned me, that such an emergency rudder requires a lot of muscle power. The problem is, when that rudder is working some distance from the stern, you need a lot of "helm" length to be able to control the emergency rudder. That's why it is essential to trim the ship as neutral as possible. And for modern yachts that's not easy. Result is, standing at the emergency helm gets exhausting. Sitting at home it sounds easy, what is easy is the idea to use the suiting parts of your rigging. Sailing a damaged ship is never easy, unless you are very very lucky: a nice longkeeler, beautiful weather, small waves, plenty supplies on board and a manoeuverable ship...
      My source was a great book by Erroll Bruce.

    • @simonmoore8414
      @simonmoore8414 4 года назад

      @@voornaam3191 Another thing I had not considered about the scenario! Again, very useful info. I have a yacht and the thought of the rudder falling off, snapping etc.. is definitely something I have thought about when on the water. Now, you mention the difficulty of steering the boat using an improv setup, that makes total sense. I can also see as you mention, how quickly you would tire from that. I wonder whether sailing downwind would be easier because of less force acting on the rudder? Although the jibe risk is obviously a big issue.. I will look out for the writer you mentioned. Sailing books have been very helpful to my overall knowledge..

    • @voornaam3191
      @voornaam3191 4 года назад +1

      @@simonmoore8414 I know the original book title. "This Is Rough Weather Cruising" by Erroll Bruce. It was writen long time ago, but it was translated into Dutch in 1979, for good reasons. Erroll Bruce simply wrote very good books. That's why I remember some ways to set up emergency steering. Veering out a long rope in a loop, pulling a storm ancre and giving it more momentum using a spinaker pole, that is just one of the options.
      One of the things I'd consider myself, is adding a dagger box near or right in front of the rudder. When you lose your rudder entirely, you can put that dagger board in place. Sure you need a sturdy construction, damage is not an option. A dagger board in front of a free rudder provides interesting trim options.

  • @zzp1
    @zzp1 12 лет назад

    There is bloody little you can do. Making a substitute is not that easy when the spade is broken away. Good action from Norwegian Star.

  • @davem5333
    @davem5333 11 лет назад

    Why did they need rescue? Doesn't look like they were taking on water, their rigging was still standing and their sails appear to wrapped up but still functioning? Did they just get tired from a storm that appears to have passed? Was anyone injured? And then what happened to the boat? Towed in? Salvage claim? Can't really leave it floating as hazard to navigation, so what it scuttled?

  • @johnnee51
    @johnnee51 8 лет назад +1

    Its a big Ocean, any one else would ride it out, and then sort the rudder out either by a lash up, or over the side to make the repair. Keep safe all, and check your gear.

    • @alisonarrowsmith2064
      @alisonarrowsmith2064 5 лет назад

      If you read the description it says their water maker broke and they ran out of water and on top of that 2 crew were sea sick and had become severely dehydated. With those two factors on top of the broken rudder, the needed help. It says the owners went back and retrieved the boat two days later.

    • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
      @TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 года назад

      They were seasick, dehydrated, missing rudder, spinnaker snapped in half and even worse weather on the way. What next smarty pants?

  • @shananagans5
    @shananagans5 11 лет назад

    If you look in the beginning of the vid it looks like the rudder is gone. When the stern comes up you can see there is no rudder.

  • @SLUGGYSS
    @SLUGGYSS 11 лет назад +4

    They left their boat. They must have good reasons. We where not there.

  • @samikent5422
    @samikent5422 4 года назад

    So... Categorically, what "sea state" would you guys say this was?

  • @poche660
    @poche660 8 лет назад +2

    Leave them alone. They were pretty close to Gilligan's Isle.

  • @allykristen7940
    @allykristen7940 8 лет назад +1

    I was on this boat acaully and during the time these people left the same day as our cruise did they were going to the same destination also to Bermuda they acually were trying to break the world record for the fastest time to and back from Bermuda (that is what I heard) also a few days in we got caught in a tropical storm so I'm guessing that's the reason there sail is off also guessing these people were off to a good start bc our boat hadn't even made it to Bermuda and these people left same as us and we're on there way back

  • @FollowEscape
    @FollowEscape 10 лет назад

    USA 40839 Avenir raced the Newport - Bermuda Race on 06/19/2012 When did this happen and where's the boat?

    • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
      @TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 года назад +1

      That POS should not have been anywhere near the Atlantic. Its a Catalina day cruiser.

  • @crunch4472
    @crunch4472 9 лет назад +1

    Lash a hatchboard to the spinnaker/whisker pole and lash a loop pivot around the backstay for an emergency rudder.

    • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
      @TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 года назад

      They did that and the Spinnaker snapped in half. What next smarty pants?

  • @The_Touring_Jedi
    @The_Touring_Jedi 3 года назад

    That small yacht has a bad balance, it is not designed for long cruise. It has small keel which is for a speed and less stability .

  • @bcbit01
    @bcbit01 8 лет назад +7

    A good solution for emergency steering that any wheel steered boat can make quick use of without a lot of tech is wrapping the wheel tight with sail canvas and lashing or u-bolting it to then end of a whisker or spinnaker pole then lashing that to the deck. Instant rudder with a fair amount of helm authority. How long it would last in conditions that were clearly even worse than you see here is anyone's guess. Long enough to make landfall somewhere I'd bet.

    • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
      @TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 года назад

      A good solution would be to not take your crappy Catalina 35 into the Atlantic.

    • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
      @TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 года назад

      Theres video of someone actually trying that and it lasted about 10 minutes.

    • @bcbit01
      @bcbit01 4 года назад +1

      @@TOMVUTHEPIMP That's a C&C 41. Far from a crappy boat.

    • @ciaranbyrne62
      @ciaranbyrne62 2 года назад +1

      That's a Bluewater cruiser for fucks sake

  • @MarkTaylor925
    @MarkTaylor925 11 лет назад

    agree with zzp1. Also good action from the sailing crew in a couple of respects aside from the pfds of course. All hatches closed (except the companion way). Sails stowed, destroyer wheel removed from the pedestal & lashed down to provide easier movement in the cockpit. Wonder what happened to the vessel? Good rescue by all.

  • @juanstadlich2895
    @juanstadlich2895 3 года назад

    Sorry but Why they abandoned the sail ship?

  • @GerhardAEUhlhorn
    @GerhardAEUhlhorn 6 лет назад

    What is the problem? The boat is not sinking, isn’t ist?

  • @larou14
    @larou14 4 года назад

    Quel océan qu'est l'Atlantique? Un océan où il faut toujours être le plus sécuritaire possible car c'est un océan qui ne pardonne pas !!! J'admire tellement tous les marins, plaisanciers etc...de s'aventurer sur celui-ci ! '' À vos risques et périls '', comme on dit !!!

  • @josephinebennington7247
    @josephinebennington7247 Год назад

    Was the yacht abandoned?

  • @salminho33
    @salminho33 11 лет назад

    can someone tell me what happened

  • @crkemppainen
    @crkemppainen 11 лет назад

    Same problem happened to me between Florida and Mexico. Lost the rudder, and you are at the mercy of the sea. This captain did not have the idea to raise and close haul the mainsail to keep her head to wind. He was rolling around crazily....trust me this is the worst sickening feeling you can get. Cool they helped them, could have been much worse.

    • @mackcarson6729
      @mackcarson6729 5 лет назад +1

      If he'd rolled out some jib as well as maybe second reef in main depending on wind strength. You'll find. IF the boat is a balanced one. he could have sailed her in most directions apart from head to wind. Just play with the sheets. or drag something over the stern controlled on either side from stern cleats and/or winches.
      Otherwise. Heave to. and drop ALL the anchor chain and pick down over bows. if you near hard stuff. The pick will catch on any shallow stuff/area.
      That'll stop you drifting/being blown onto any hard stuff around..Till it blows out or somebody can get to you.

  • @mactcampbell
    @mactcampbell 3 года назад

    Not all that rough. It's mid gale force at best. We've had the FRC launched in 50 mph wind with 30 ft waves.

  • @vangloberlos
    @vangloberlos 2 года назад

    Cheering is not the thing to do while others are living their drama...

  • @catalinadude6218
    @catalinadude6218 3 года назад +1

    Rudder broke off, he was hosed.

  • @BenA-bu1cz
    @BenA-bu1cz 4 года назад +4

    It's a good spot but would help if u kept the camera on target instead of all other places.

  • @D.Garcia007
    @D.Garcia007 4 года назад

    It was Gilligan and the Skipper to

  • @TheDrLivingstone
    @TheDrLivingstone 4 года назад

    do we know why they have abandoned their sailing boat ?

    • @Pete-qo7bv
      @Pete-qo7bv 4 года назад

      Laurent WEBER
      I’m picking loss of steering.
      Just going by where the wheel is.

  • @glenswada
    @glenswada 11 лет назад +12

    "Avenir’s steering system failed after her rudder snapped off around 200 miles off Bermuda in high seas"

    • @qb6025
      @qb6025 3 года назад

      So what.
      Coca cola and bubelgum run out?

    • @zarkondamean
      @zarkondamean 3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the info. Was wondering what happened. (land lubber here).

  • @melee401
    @melee401 10 лет назад +9

    When I was in the service we never launched or retrieved a boat with the ship stopped. We regularly launched and retrieved boats in heavier seas then these.
    Must have sucked losing that sailboat to a busted rudder though. One has to wonder WTF happened there. Sea sickness is preventable. Good weed works wonders.

    • @malayarock
      @malayarock 2 года назад

      Agreed with the good weed 😅

  • @The4awesomegymnasts
    @The4awesomegymnasts 10 лет назад

    I was on the cruise when this happend

  • @luciano76464
    @luciano76464 4 года назад

    Che problema hanno avuto ? La barca sembra apposto😮

  • @cafsixtieslover
    @cafsixtieslover 5 лет назад

    Nothing smaller than a cruise ship- ever!

  • @kickstar126
    @kickstar126 7 лет назад +1

    This boat is completely set up for full electric self furling, and looks like thats all screwed up, so when all that fails, no engine, cold, grey skies in considerable swells far from shore, it really tough to make your brain think of a jury rig, specially if you find a big beautiful cruise ship parked beside you. aw well live to fight another day.

  • @JohnR-NZ
    @JohnR-NZ Год назад

    Unbelievable that they didn't have their emersion suits and life jackets on before help arrived, that should have been done as soon as their emergency occured.

  • @2011blueman
    @2011blueman 11 лет назад

    I laughed when the tourist on the cruise ship said the guys actually sailing across the Atlantic should stay near shore. I don't consider being on a cruise ship as having even left shore.

  • @HerbDuncan
    @HerbDuncan 2 года назад

    Hasn't anyone heard of an emergency tiller? I've been sailing for over 45 years and I would "never" be without a "barb wire and bubble gum" means of keeping the boat on course.

  • @jcm4819
    @jcm4819 9 лет назад +11

    No seaworthy boat should ever be abandoned at sea. It becomes a navigation hazard and without lights becomes a real danger at night. Yachts can be sailed without rudders, it just needs common sense and seamanship. Yachtsmen should have contingency plans for varying emergency situations, otherwise they are a danger to themselves, and others.

    • @crimsoncrime007
      @crimsoncrime007 5 лет назад

      You don't know what happened .. Don't think this was in there plans.,. Smh

    • @whiggerhunter4268
      @whiggerhunter4268 5 лет назад

      Ran out of food? Bullshit you could have drawn straws to see who gets eaten first..

  • @flyingtigre1
    @flyingtigre1 9 лет назад +5

    Its a harsh world on the streets but not even close to missing with the sea. Yes you can sail a boat without a rudder but you are only going leeward. So direction is pointless. Abandonment of the boat may be necessary if rescue is necessary. The boat has radar deflectors so oncoming ships know there is a boat in the water. Im sure the captan learned a very big lesson. Preparing the boat more in maintenance. As well as knowing how to handle a rudder in ruff waters. Don't yank the rudder eventually a little rod that is connected to it can snap over time. The ruder can be under a ton or more in pressure. If you continuously jerk it, It will snap. Tell the helms men that.

  • @justlittlebe
    @justlittlebe 10 лет назад

    why they abandoned the boat?

    • @ozskipper
      @ozskipper 9 лет назад +1

      Lost steering.. note they had taken the wheel off as a result.

  • @jgestiot
    @jgestiot 2 года назад

    The moral of the story is "If you cannot hold a camera, the footage will be shit"

  • @montwolfman
    @montwolfman 9 лет назад +1

    I wonder what prevented the cruise ship from simply towing the sailboat to it's next destination? Liability?

    • @AakeTraak
      @AakeTraak 9 лет назад

      Who is gonna steer it?

    • @ceirwan
      @ceirwan 9 лет назад +3

      A cruise ship will typically move at a far higher speed than the yacht could be towed. Either the tow line would snap or they'd break whatever it was made fast to on board the yacht.

    • @jasonhisey3000
      @jasonhisey3000 8 лет назад

      +AakeTraak probably the rope attached to the cruise ship

    • @masonmethot3186
      @masonmethot3186 8 лет назад

      Rope would snap or the yacht would just be flipped and turned and spun around from no control.

    • @AakeTraak
      @AakeTraak 8 лет назад +2

      jason hisey Have you ever towed a boat?

  • @General_Crock
    @General_Crock 10 лет назад +6

    at 1'44" and 2' 10 or so you can see a chunk of the rudder so it clearly didn't snap off, at least entirely. The fact that the wheel is lashed to the lifeline stanchion and the skipper states he tried to use the emergency tiller suggest the rudder post was what broke, or perhaps the steering cables.
    You can sail without steering if the rudder is not locked hard over, but it is more difficult in a spade ruddered fin keeled boat with a narrow chords, and it is quite labour intensive and thus would be very difficult to to do with a sick crew. The CCA's incident report states 2 crew refused to take seasickness meds because of their fear of potential side effects. Sounds to me like poor crew management and dumb crew.

    • @hotrodparker
      @hotrodparker 9 лет назад

      3 words: SKEG HUNG RUDDER, or stay close to shore, or junk the boat. Problem SOLVED!

    • @enricoderojassarson5596
      @enricoderojassarson5596 6 лет назад

      Funny, I dont see a rudder at 6:04, looks like empty below the stem

    • @vidguy007
      @vidguy007 5 лет назад

      Rudders seldom "snap off" usually the cable or the assembly that holds the cables is the problem. An easily fixed one, usually. They should have an emergency tiller at least

    • @sbc388550
      @sbc388550 5 лет назад

      ... And it was ''Brand X.

    • @sbc388550
      @sbc388550 5 лет назад

      ....At 2:10 I only see the keel, not the rudder.

  • @marzsit9833
    @marzsit9833 4 года назад +3

    spade rudders without a skeg are always a bad idea on any serious ocean-capable sailboat.

    • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
      @TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 года назад

      THIS. Another day cruiser loses its rudder.

  • @jazzye6493
    @jazzye6493 4 года назад

    So what was wrong with the sailboat? The people didn't even seem panicked.

  • @andrelaviolette7306
    @andrelaviolette7306 9 лет назад +3

    Not the first time a C&C has broken a rudder shaft.

    • @LazyJacques
      @LazyJacques 8 лет назад

      +Andre Laviolette I'll echo that sentiment, although that says more about the fact that owners neglect to haul out and inspect their 40-year-old rudder and stock before a major offshore race, than anything else... This boat was on a return delivery from the Newport-Bermuda race, and got caught in Tropical Storm Debbie. It was recovered 13 days later off RI, with a pot full of jambalaya still on the stove... Offshore racers need to get serious about emergency steering systems, and practice using them. Race committees see you have a drogue and/or a sea-anchor on board and some half-assed plan to use that, and give you a pass. You can see one here floating just off their stern: we'll assume they've hauled it in for the rescue. Still, IMHO the C&C 41 was the prettiest and sturdiest racer/cruiser built in the 70s... I would've been glad to salvage it!

    • @neptunesfancy
      @neptunesfancy 6 лет назад

      You have that right..and other plastic makers also...pure junk for ocean going.

    • @slgordon3
      @slgordon3 6 лет назад

      j.j. Buescher - When I sail around the world, it'll be in a MacGregor 26. A strong, stout beast of a blue water sloop if there ever was one.

  • @maddierosemusic
    @maddierosemusic 4 года назад

    It's clear those people have to jump into the water to be saved.

  • @marioestebansapollnik7662
    @marioestebansapollnik7662 3 года назад

    Claramente se ve que la rueda de timon esta rota, se la ve a estribor del barco en popa, seguramente se ha cortado su eje. Tambien se ve que improvisaron un timon de fortuna fabricado con una madera, esta atado en popa y seguramente no dio resultado.

  • @cleanhabitats
    @cleanhabitats 9 лет назад +54

    So many YT sailors giving advice. How many have actually been or ever will be "out there".

    • @jonnysea176
      @jonnysea176 9 лет назад +6

      Steve Kosvic I will be Steve. and, I will have a back up rudder, maybe 2.

    • @jasonhisey3000
      @jasonhisey3000 8 лет назад +4

      +Jon Campbell take 4 just to be safe

    • @masonmethot3186
      @masonmethot3186 8 лет назад +7

      +Jon Campbell And maybe extra sails, life vests, propeller's....just bring a second boat!

    • @TheMaxaton
      @TheMaxaton 8 лет назад

      +Steve Kosvic I have and I agree with them.

    • @MrFangole
      @MrFangole 7 лет назад +1

      we have two sailboats and sail the Caribbeans and southern Atlantic from Canada, also did 2 passages to Europe

  • @ExploringCabinsandMines
    @ExploringCabinsandMines 9 лет назад +1

    If i'm not mistaken you could drag something one one side to crudely steer.

    • @robertorzech7369
      @robertorzech7369 8 лет назад

      +davetileguy I'd pull out the cordless sawsall and carve a new rudder and tiller handle out of the salon table or chart table or any other table or door or chop up the dingy ! But it's hard to get anything done with a screaming nagging old seahag nattering at you constantly. LOL

  • @qwertypous0464
    @qwertypous0464 4 года назад +1

    earlier youtube recommend a rescue video about a sailboat being rescue in atlantic and now this is the 5th rescue video that i watched. god its happening again like those naked dudes building swimming pools.

  • @Cyrusmagi
    @Cyrusmagi 2 года назад

    If the yacht had kept up a reefed mainsail the rolling would have been a lot less and rescue easier.

  • @cawfeedawg
    @cawfeedawg 8 лет назад +1

    Wheel steering is the most common weak link in factory sailboats

  • @billhooker3006
    @billhooker3006 6 лет назад +3

    Damn Blow Boats!

  • @jonb4722
    @jonb4722 2 года назад

    Looks like - from the outside, at least - still things to have possibly tried but demoralisation has set in among the crew.

  • @Steve1734
    @Steve1734 8 лет назад

    Its a lifeline to the rib, then jump in and get pulled over

    • @fhuber7507
      @fhuber7507 7 лет назад +1

      In icy cold waters... that's asking for hypothermia, even in a survival suit.
      You don't go in the water if you can avoid it.

  • @peterwilliamson8721
    @peterwilliamson8721 3 года назад

    It seems odd that an experiencedb crew such as this (I am assuming the crew is experienced because one of the commentators remarked that the yaught and his cruise ship left the same port at the same time and the yaught was intent on setting a new record and was on the return leg of the voyage when the Norwegians rescued them the I know space is precious but don't most sailors have backup sails parts etc for such occasions?I'm not second guessing or anything but abandoning this ship seems extreme.

  • @generalis50
    @generalis50 11 лет назад

    I see that the wheel is brocken and they are using a tiller. well the boat maby take water (it is not to see) but its dosnt look like it a abandom situation

    • @myrasummerhand8201
      @myrasummerhand8201 3 года назад

      rudder failed. even if they’re using the wheel, tiller it won’t work.

  • @johnvoorsluys2182
    @johnvoorsluys2182 4 года назад

    Aerated water makes the boat more buoyant? Quite the opposite. It's why logs, kayaks, etc roll into the bottom of falls...See Viktor Schauberger

  • @lalmuanzuala2292
    @lalmuanzuala2292 4 года назад +2

    feel free to zoom out dude

  • @williamlobur6181
    @williamlobur6181 4 года назад

    where in the Atlantic was this

  • @Antipodean33
    @Antipodean33 8 лет назад +1

    Is this all because of the wheel coming off? Surely something could've been rigged up to give it some steerage? I'm wondering if anyone on that cruise ship thought "as soon as they are off that boat, i'm on it and it's mine"

    • @johnferguson7235
      @johnferguson7235 7 лет назад +2

      The sheets look like they are tattered and the rigging all fouled. The boat probably has an electric winches and controls and would need a crew to re-rig the sheets. He was probably out of fuel or also suffered an engine failure.

    • @joneseyce
      @joneseyce 7 лет назад

      It's also possible that the steering system was broken and they removed the wheel in attempt at a fix?

    • @cawfeedawg
      @cawfeedawg 7 лет назад

      they took the wheel off to work on the steering.. then they realized the Rudder was busted

    • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
      @TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 года назад

      The rudder is totally missing, and the spinnaker is snapped. And Hurricane Debbie was approaching......

  • @princebaptista7676
    @princebaptista7676 Год назад

    Look's like the camera had a bit too many a drink's onboard, it was having such a tough time keeping focus on the subject....🤪

  • @user-py2mb7nt5w
    @user-py2mb7nt5w 5 лет назад

    It is very easy to pol the pout

  • @gc9542
    @gc9542 4 года назад +6

    There are Sailors / Merchant Mariners, and then there are Boat-Owners. Similar difference as Videographers, and people who have a camera.

  • @naps3386
    @naps3386 Год назад

    Rudder failures are top reason for abandoning sailboats.

  • @boatcharter41
    @boatcharter41 11 лет назад +1

    I don't see any reason for a rescue. the conditions were fair, that wave height is normal in the Atlantic.

  • @warjacare
    @warjacare 10 лет назад

    No problem at all, the insurance conpany pays for all losses, no matter how skillful the skipper is.

    • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
      @TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 года назад

      Nope. This is a loss and insurance wont pay. They got into hurricane Debbie. Insurance is not going to pay if you sail into a hurricane.

  • @ElectronicMarine
    @ElectronicMarine 11 лет назад

    man I don't even want to think... to have to let you're boat in the midle of the ocean....

  • @aflaz171
    @aflaz171 4 года назад

    Why can't you keep the camera on the target? Useless photage.