R7 is a wonderful camera. For someone willing to use their brains. No idea if these rumours will materialise re firmware. Want better rez? Just shoot a bunch of photos, uprez them all, and align and blend them. Been doing it for years. Who needs pixelshift? Need low light performance? Shoot underexposed at as high an iso your camera can do. In post, boost exposure , denoise conservatively, and downsample the rez to like 4mpx. Now denoise this image. Or if it is an image you can take multiple exposures of, stack em. And so on.
My ISO is typically between 100-6400. The only time I went higher is when I went on a predawn walk to catch a sunset, and found some decent wildlife activity. So I stuck my EF 70-200 F2.8L II and shot wide open at ISO 12800. My shots were still dark with grain but still useably sharp.
@@JeffGresham I've been on the market for a speedbooster. I haven't found one I can get in Canada unfortunately. I know it makes a difference, I ran a Viltrox one on my M50. But I think my full frame lenses would be a bit of a waste on that camera.
exactly, which is why i'm not sure what to really think about this Supposed "Update" I don't think it is something many Photographers even care too much about.
I'm back and forth with my R7. I usually take it out when I need a smaller package to carry around. It's phenomenal with my old EF-S 55-250 adapted to it. I was trying to replace this old lens with the RF 24-240, but it doesn't seem to focus as well with the newer lens. We are in a love/hate relationship at the moment. 😂
Honestly, I have my ISO set to a max of 3200 anyway, and try to keep it at 1600 or less. I shoot with as slow of a shutter as I need, to get enough light. I almost always get the sharp shot that I'm trying for. What would help me more than anything else, would be improved AF and EAF. The more sharp shots I have to choose from, the better. Oh btw, I have shot in VERY dark conditions, 30 minutes before sunrise, with an F11 lens > at ISO 100 < ! Razor sharp, and completely noise free with no addional noise removal programs (just DXO Pure RAW to convert my cRAW's to DNG's) It's easy. Any camera can do this ;) Anyway, I really hate the loss in detail, and dynamic range, that high ISO causes. Just being able to remove the noise after the fact, with software, doesn't solve all those issues.
Agree with commenters that a better firmware fix would be to correct some autofocus issues. Recently was shooting some birds at a feeder and the camera locked onto the eye but after examining images a number of them showed the camera had front focused just enough to make the bird a bit out of focus. This was with a first gen 100-4004.5-5.6L so maybe they don't play well together at times, I dunno.
it's quite possible. I have a Sigma 120-400mm and on my EOS-R the photos are perfectly sharp and it nails focus. However paired with my R7 it misses more times than it hits. However with my Sigma 150-600mm the R7 delivers some of the sharpest photos i have ever taken. so it is very possible the lens and camera just dont work well together.
@@JeffGresham it sounds great if you're a casual viewer. I would love it if they addressed the autofocus issues concerning keeper rates. I loved the images quality but sold mine because when I shoot motorsports I couldn't rely on consistent focus.
@@JeffWeymier i can't remember what adjustments i made, but i'll go through my settings and try to figure it out, but after tweaking a few settings on the R7 the autofocus works like a dream. But i totally felt that same frustration.
Naahh man. I'd rather see some tweaks to the AF system if firmware is even capable of doing that. Otherwise, the R7 is a nice little camera that needs to see an R7-MkII version fix some issues. CF Express type A or B would be nice. Stickier AF and better tracking. A better and brighter back display along with a better EVF. Maybe a faster sensor readout to get rid of the rolling shutter. Unfortunately that would come with a heavier price tag. That means you'll make new buyers look at the Nikon Z6-III with it's full frame sensor and other juicy features before considering the R7-MkII (which I believe would be prices around $2699 with all the goodies I mentioned).
Fellow that put up this video of the 1.60 updates says he's not seeing that high ISO you mention. Any comments? ruclips.net/video/WieuUnOHofM/видео.html Says he's only seeing 51200 ISO
Eh... What's funny is, a lot of folks take fast action shots > and some are very good at it, with BIF, running, jumping animals, etc, and then pat themselves on the back because of the difficulty level. And much of the time, those kinds of shots "are more difficult". However, when you look at the responses to such shots vs. an intimate, close up shot, looking into the birds or animals eye, razor sharp, in great light (difficult in completely different ways) this seems to move the viewer "just as much, if not more so". Do you want to take the "cooler" action shots ? ....or the often more beautiful, aesthetic portrait shots ? I prefer taking, and viewing the latter. But that's me.
@@Chris_Wolfgram I enjoy taking both, There's no better feeling than sitting and waiting for that perfect intimate shot, however it's very close when you get the exciting shot when the action is at it's peak. But i totally get what you're saying.
R7 is a wonderful camera. For someone willing to use their brains. No idea if these rumours will materialise re firmware.
Want better rez? Just shoot a bunch of photos, uprez them all, and align and blend them. Been doing it for years. Who needs pixelshift?
Need low light performance? Shoot underexposed at as high an iso your camera can do. In post, boost exposure , denoise conservatively, and downsample the rez to like 4mpx. Now denoise this image. Or if it is an image you can take multiple exposures of, stack em. And so on.
Pixel shift seems like a waste of an update.
My ISO is typically between 100-6400. The only time I went higher is when I went on a predawn walk to catch a sunset, and found some decent wildlife activity. So I stuck my EF 70-200 F2.8L II and shot wide open at ISO 12800. My shots were still dark with grain but still useably sharp.
if i really am hurting for light, i slap my speedbooster on my r7 i get an extra stop of light, but i lose distance.
@@JeffGresham I've been on the market for a speedbooster. I haven't found one I can get in Canada unfortunately. I know it makes a difference, I ran a Viltrox one on my M50. But I think my full frame lenses would be a bit of a waste on that camera.
@@HeadlessChickenTO i bought a meike ef-eosr 0.7x speedbooster for my r7. i got it on amazon for under $200 and it works outstanding
should get you on one of my livestream
@@canonlensesandcameras4425 sounds like fun
I checked previous updates for the R7. All updates as far as I saw were lens updates and really bug fixes. None of them were upgrades. So…
exactly, which is why i'm not sure what to really think about this Supposed "Update" I don't think it is something many Photographers even care too much about.
I'm back and forth with my R7. I usually take it out when I need a smaller package to carry around. It's phenomenal with my old EF-S 55-250 adapted to it. I was trying to replace this old lens with the RF 24-240, but it doesn't seem to focus as well with the newer lens. We are in a love/hate relationship at the moment. 😂
@@TitanTrainSpotter i was at first as well. I watched a few videos and changed some settings. Not the af is perfect.
Ha :) lol You stole my line ! I love / hate my R7's as well :)
Honestly, I have my ISO set to a max of 3200 anyway, and try to keep it at 1600 or less. I shoot with as slow of a shutter as I need, to get enough light. I almost always get the sharp shot that I'm trying for. What would help me more than anything else, would be improved AF and EAF. The more sharp shots I have to choose from, the better.
Oh btw, I have shot in VERY dark conditions, 30 minutes before sunrise, with an F11 lens > at ISO 100 < ! Razor sharp, and completely noise free with no addional noise removal programs (just DXO Pure RAW to convert my cRAW's to DNG's) It's easy. Any camera can do this ;)
Anyway, I really hate the loss in detail, and dynamic range, that high ISO causes. Just being able to remove the noise after the fact, with software, doesn't solve all those issues.
i agree, i keep my ISO between 100 and 6800 max, but i rarely go past 3000 ISO, and photos are typically 100% noise free.
Agree with commenters that a better firmware fix would be to correct some autofocus issues. Recently was shooting some birds at a feeder and the camera locked onto the eye but after examining images a number of them showed the camera had front focused just enough to make the bird a bit out of focus. This was with a first gen 100-4004.5-5.6L so maybe they don't play well together at times, I dunno.
it's quite possible. I have a Sigma 120-400mm and on my EOS-R the photos are perfectly sharp and it nails focus. However paired with my R7 it misses more times than it hits. However with my Sigma 150-600mm the R7 delivers some of the sharpest photos i have ever taken. so it is very possible the lens and camera just dont work well together.
If your shooting at over 200,000 ISO you probably shouldn't be using the image for anything important.
shouldn't use the photo for ANYTHING! lol that ISO i way too high
@@JeffGresham it sounds great if you're a casual viewer. I would love it if they addressed the autofocus issues concerning keeper rates. I loved the images quality but sold mine because when I shoot motorsports I couldn't rely on consistent focus.
@@JeffWeymier i can't remember what adjustments i made, but i'll go through my settings and try to figure it out, but after tweaking a few settings on the R7 the autofocus works like a dream. But i totally felt that same frustration.
Naahh man. I'd rather see some tweaks to the AF system if firmware is even capable of doing that. Otherwise, the R7 is a nice little camera that needs to see an R7-MkII version fix some issues. CF Express type A or B would be nice. Stickier AF and better tracking. A better and brighter back display along with a better EVF. Maybe a faster sensor readout to get rid of the rolling shutter. Unfortunately that would come with a heavier price tag. That means you'll make new buyers look at the Nikon Z6-III with it's full frame sensor and other juicy features before considering the R7-MkII (which I believe would be prices around $2699 with all the goodies I mentioned).
These are all rumors and this will not happen. Besides, high ISO is harmful. I shoot with this camera up to 12800.
@@atboarder i dont think it will either. Plus this is something no one even asked for.
Fellow that put up this video of the 1.60 updates says he's not seeing that high ISO you mention. Any comments? ruclips.net/video/WieuUnOHofM/видео.html Says he's only seeing 51200 ISO
i'm just going by the article on Canon Rumors website.
Also his video was upped over a month ago. My video is talking about a possible upcoming Update, not a current one.
so you really haven't done the update then right?
@@musicman8942 i never said i did. i said we will see if this update even happens,
@@JeffGresham That's not the feeling I got from watching your video. Clickbait I call it.
That's honestly useless, with a crop sensor it will look awful. We need 4K 120fps instead
@@ambstudios4564 yep
this won't work with fast-paced scenario.
@@FLMTrailer not at all.
Eh... What's funny is, a lot of folks take fast action shots > and some are very good at it, with BIF, running, jumping animals, etc, and then pat themselves on the back because of the difficulty level. And much of the time, those kinds of shots "are more difficult". However, when you look at the responses to such shots vs. an intimate, close up shot, looking into the birds or animals eye, razor sharp, in great light (difficult in completely different ways) this seems to move the viewer "just as much, if not more so". Do you want to take the "cooler" action shots ? ....or the often more beautiful, aesthetic portrait shots ? I prefer taking, and viewing the latter. But that's me.
@@Chris_Wolfgram I enjoy taking both, There's no better feeling than sitting and waiting for that perfect intimate shot, however it's very close when you get the exciting shot when the action is at it's peak. But i totally get what you're saying.
Sure, update the R7 years later while those that bought a EOS R have never seen squat even though the Touch Bar has been a farce. Canon, you suck.
@@DesertPackrat i wish there would have been an R mk2 or at least an upgrade in firmware