Hey I've got an idea, you could bring your super powerful fume extractor over to my place and test it out in the bathroom after my dad's been in there. We could make a video about it called "Are other peoples farts bad for your lungs?".
If you uses a fume extractor and take all safety precautions, you are relatively safe, some studies have shown that lead free solder are actually more harmful than leaded solders due to the higher temperature settings, but good eye opener though, but again, if u take all safety precautions, soldering is relatively safe
build an air exhaust ez with a 15 dollar bathroom vent fan from home depot and a couple of vent ducts... some more tinkering required. No need a way to air seal the system so its 100% efficient then a way to seal it off from letting air in or out of your house. (including bugs out)
It affects people differently; some have the fortune of being less sensitive / reactive. But either way, the damage often won't show up for a while, so keep waiting..
@@zeussx2120 Lead is a metal and in order to breath it in it has to be a gas. I dont know what tempratures ur working with but turning lead into a gas is not likely. So lead free or not its about the flux
I found out a easy way to avoid the smoke. What you do is put a heat source near where you solder like a light and the smoke will go to it and collect and condense not going into the room.
Use "leaded" 60/40 tin/lead rosin core solder for occasional hobby soldering, have a fan going if you are fearful of fumes. Learn to make good electrical solder joints quickly with good technique learned in practice. Don't put solder in your mouth and wash hands after handling solder.
So you said Pittsburgh and I see a Bay Area sticker. Cool I live in San Francisco and my parents live in Walnut Creek and in the 90’s I used to be a paperboy in Bay Point and Pittsburgh. I’m starting to solder electronics I just got my solder/heat gun station and I haven’t touched it yet until I get a fume extractor.
So I got it. If all of that solder fumes go directly into your mouth or nose without PPE, and, say, get exposed to about 250,000 to 500,000 ppm of the fumes in 5 minutes, you will not only end up in the hospital with lung problems - you will likely die in the same way you got exposed to crystalline silica dust and end up with fatal acute silicosis.
His workshop is way too tidy. Where is the 1 inch layer of old desoldered components and leg clippings from 1980s through-hole components? I bet you can see his carpet too. Meh :) Good vid and food for thought
you lightweight - I use hardware from a respirator store :) www.draeger.com/en_aunz/Chemical-Industry/Productselector/Personal-Protection-Equipment/Masks-and-Filters
I don't want to sound it offensively but it's a pretty primitive, but good idea. Maybe you should make a comparison with carbon filter or maybe try to condense fumes that you get from it, or perhaps even try some other filter (cigarette filter maybe and yea I know there are a ton of them but for the heck of it, also I know that they're not very efficient but it would be interesting to see )sure it condenses on cotton but its not very efficient
carbon does nothing to filter this. carbon is for vapors and gases. most of what you see here are less than micron sized particles. a p100 filters will do wonders to filter this nasty crap
I have been opening windows on both sides when ironing. With a small fan sucking the smoke instead of pushing them away. Because I am using usb 5 watts soldering irons and low melting point tin. When the fan blow the heat is not enough to melt the tin well. But ever since my grandson arrived, i hv difficulty to feel safe soldering. The smoke may stick to the furniture and walls as I usually solder in living room. I will feel better to solder in the toilet with windows wide opened. Even best in the open air. But then very difficult to set it right for soldering 0603 and 0402 smd...
Tanner Tech Yes I've lived here in the Pittsburgh area my whole life. I was glad to here you were coming here. I hope everything went well at the science fair and you had a pleasant visit!
N95 is just like a regular mask. If you have experience passing people who are smoking cigarettes while you wear a mask, you know that regular masks don't help a lot. These fumes need P100 rating to start filtering it, and it's still not perfect, you need activated charcoal. If you are doing this type of work for long time, I would recommend 3M 6502QL/7502 + 6006 or 7093C.
could you use Brita water filter contents to filter the smoke from the air? I have heard that they have activated charcoal and some sort of clay that can help maybe?
if i were using silver or gold solder paste for jewelry, i would be using a tiny amount but i did notice it does smoke a little, since i work in my kitchen would a simple fan or open window be enough ventilation?
Neither tin, copper nor lead will evaporate at soldering temperatures. The one with the lowest boiling point (when fluid turns to gas) is lead, which boils at 1749°C.
Its probably a safe bet to just assume the crazy fumes coming from the random solder people use are probably not mostly the normal air we need to breathe, so filtration is probably usually advisable. Especially when soldering for long periods of time.
But they are not fine. Asthma is a highly widespread occupational disease among electronics repairmen and assembly line workers who solder, with around a quarter to half the workers, depending on survey, experiencing asthma symptoms eventually. Granted, it takes a lot of time to manifest, and predominantly people who solder as their day job are at risk, rather than soldering something once every month or so. The sole source of damage has been flux, no symptoms of lead poisoning were ever reported, no significant traces of lead were found. However it is to be considered, that soldering lead-free usually incurs higher activated flux (i.e. halogen doped), or higher soldering temperature which causes higher burn and evaporation, so it's likely that lead-free soldering may be more harmful.
Phonotical - you are not right. It is dangerous. I am an entronic technician since 1970, i don't sit near to solder smoke now. When I breath solder smoke i feel head ache, vomiting etc. One of my friend (e-tech) had hempilical herania, now he do not sit near to solder smoke. One another friend had eye baloons (inflamation below of eys). Also another e-tech had limphoma, passed away. It is very dangerous than smoking. The reason is that you are very close to, while soldering. Due to this major portion of solder smoke is breathed. Always keep a small fan to push away the smoke and do not sit in the direction of smoke. The solder is lead (Pb) + tin it is poisonous. Drink one cup fresh lemon drink every day evening if you work on solder. Good luck
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If you really want to give your lungs a work out then try using the restroom after my dad has just taken a massive dump, oh boy is it bad!
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Hey I've got an idea, you could bring your super powerful fume extractor over to my place and test it out in the bathroom after my dad's been in there. We could make a video about it called "Are other peoples farts bad for your lungs?".
lol same
Thanks, I think I'll stick to inhaling HCl acid fumes instead.
Thank you! I solder everyday and after watching your video I instantly ordered a fume extractor.
Good call!
It would be interesting to see how well the carbon filter would perform and then compare the results with no filter
Given your DIY extractor, you will need further PPE, I.e., earplugs. That sustained dB level will damage your ears.
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If you uses a fume extractor and take all safety precautions, you are relatively safe, some studies have shown that lead free solder are actually more harmful than leaded solders due to the higher temperature settings, but good eye opener though, but again, if u take all safety precautions, soldering is relatively safe
Nice study. Certainly eye opening. I wonder how much the exhaust of a desktop fan filter is toxic compare to the input?
Looks like I pick the wrong week to quit soldering
Yeah i have noticed when i solder i get lightheaded after about 30 minutes of breathing the smoke
How much would I have to inhale for this to become a problem? I may have screwed up 😅
Im building one my self using 4 little fans and just got the carbon filter from amazon to finish it.
build an air exhaust ez with a 15 dollar bathroom vent fan from home depot and a couple of vent ducts... some more tinkering required. No need a way to air seal the system so its 100% efficient then a way to seal it off from letting air in or out of your house. (including bugs out)
Great video and thank you for this demonstration on the hazards of soldering fumes
I should be already dead
stand still i'ma tryin ta shoot ya
It affects people differently; some have the fortune of being less sensitive / reactive. But either way, the damage often won't show up for a while, so keep waiting..
You could be using lead free solder, but don’t bother. I have a hard time getting lead free solder to stick.
@@zeussx2120 Lead is a metal and in order to breath it in it has to be a gas. I dont know what tempratures ur working with but turning lead into a gas is not likely. So lead free or not its about the flux
I found out a easy way to avoid the smoke. What you do is put a heat source near where you solder like a light and the smoke will go to it and collect and condense not going into the room.
Use "leaded" 60/40 tin/lead rosin core solder for occasional hobby soldering, have a fan going if you are fearful of fumes. Learn to make good electrical solder joints quickly with good technique learned in practice. Don't put solder in your mouth and wash hands after handling solder.
Screw the rosin! Should I be concerned about the LEAD FUMES!!??
So you said Pittsburgh and I see a Bay Area sticker. Cool I live in San Francisco and my parents live in Walnut Creek and in the 90’s I used to be a paperboy in Bay Point and Pittsburgh. I’m starting to solder electronics I just got my solder/heat gun station and I haven’t touched it yet until I get a fume extractor.
So I got it. If all of that solder fumes go directly into your mouth or nose without PPE, and, say, get exposed to about 250,000 to 500,000 ppm of the fumes in 5 minutes, you will not only end up in the hospital with lung problems - you will likely die in the same way you got exposed to crystalline silica dust and end up with fatal acute silicosis.
What respirator mask do you recommend?
Also I guess gloves to wear to not get led on your hands.
His workshop is way too tidy. Where is the 1 inch layer of old desoldered components and leg clippings from 1980s through-hole components? I bet you can see his carpet too. Meh :)
Good vid and food for thought
Haha my carpet is littered with leg clippings
if the combination of those chemical terms doesn't kill you, it will definitely turn you into captain planet
You should never breathe in solder for your brain cells sake either! I use a respirator from the hardware store.
you lightweight - I use hardware from a respirator store :) www.draeger.com/en_aunz/Chemical-Industry/Productselector/Personal-Protection-Equipment/Masks-and-Filters
@@gordslater dam i dont use protection at all
i suppse you use an M3 mask , but could you tell me what kind of filtre you are useing ?
I don't want to sound it offensively but it's a pretty primitive, but good idea. Maybe you should make a comparison with carbon filter or maybe try to condense fumes that you get from it, or perhaps even try some other filter (cigarette filter maybe and yea I know there are a ton of them but for the heck of it, also I know that they're not very efficient but it would be interesting to see )sure it condenses on cotton but its not very efficient
carbon does nothing to filter this. carbon is for vapors and gases. most of what you see here are less than micron sized particles. a p100 filters will do wonders to filter this nasty crap
I have been opening windows on both sides when ironing. With a small fan sucking the smoke instead of pushing them away. Because I am using usb 5 watts soldering irons and low melting point tin. When the fan blow the heat is not enough to melt the tin well.
But ever since my grandson arrived, i hv difficulty to feel safe soldering. The smoke may stick to the furniture and walls as I usually solder in living room.
I will feel better to solder in the toilet with windows wide opened. Even best in the open air. But then very difficult to set it right for soldering 0603 and 0402 smd...
These are also known as "fume extractors" 😊
Welcome to Pittsburgh!
Mark Rancatore thanks! You live here?
Tanner Tech
Yes I've lived here in the Pittsburgh area my whole life.
I was glad to here you were coming here. I hope everything went well at the science fair and you had a pleasant visit!
Tanner, "get the lead out" and get a fume extractor! lol Nice demonstration.
Would you be able to draw the used solder back into a wire? I know it's possible, but I just really hope ya do.
excellent video thanks!!
It's a good idea to save your lungs!
Yep, a soldering fan is a must!
I quit soldering !
nonothebot ...you can be serious...
I’m bouta dieeeee😭😭😭😭😭😭
Can breath but it hurts
Could you make a video on how to build a smoke filter?
Is facemask ok?
Better than nothing, although a fume extractor is the best.
Is n-95 mask ok? You tested it?
N95 is just like a regular mask. If you have experience passing people who are smoking cigarettes while you wear a mask, you know that regular masks don't help a lot.
These fumes need P100 rating to start filtering it, and it's still not perfect, you need activated charcoal. If you are doing this type of work for long time, I would recommend 3M 6502QL/7502 + 6006 or 7093C.
Roz’-in, not rosin
could you use Brita water filter contents to filter the smoke from the air? I have heard that they have activated charcoal and some sort of clay that can help maybe?
if i were using silver or gold solder paste for jewelry, i would be using a tiny amount but i did notice it does smoke a little, since i work in my kitchen would a simple fan or open window be enough ventilation?
Some is always better than none.
Ali Express has some fume extractors for cheap like $33.00
chris45627 but do they actually work? Because if you buy one and use it not knowing it's not doing anything, that would be be very dangerous
idk im new to electronics and Soldering but I just ordered one yesterday so wish me luck. I
@chris45627 did it work? how loud is it?
@@Echiomega He died. That's what you get for ordering safety equipment off AliExpress.
Am I going to die??
I could see this becoming a popular video with a little editing
What would you suggest for editing?
Tanner Tech I generally use Sony Vegas, its easy and quick, doesn't take a lot of skill to master and has a range of options for formats
I think he meant how would you change video rather than what program do you use.
uK8cvPAq I'll have to wait for a reply on that
Ya, what that one guy said. How do you think I should change the video to make it better?
I think I' m already dead :/
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Is 99% tin 1% copper bad for your longs?
Most smoke that comes of it is because of the Flux, AKA Rosin. so yes. doesn't matter what solder with flux core you use.
Neither tin, copper nor lead will evaporate at soldering temperatures. The one with the lowest boiling point (when fluid turns to gas) is lead, which boils at 1749°C.
Its probably a safe bet to just assume the crazy fumes coming from the random solder people use are probably not mostly the normal air we need to breathe, so filtration is probably usually advisable. Especially when soldering for long periods of time.
People have been doing it for years and they're fine, with the lead too, I'm sure it isn't so bad
But they are not fine. Asthma is a highly widespread occupational disease among electronics repairmen and assembly line workers who solder, with around a quarter to half the workers, depending on survey, experiencing asthma symptoms eventually.
Granted, it takes a lot of time to manifest, and predominantly people who solder as their day job are at risk, rather than soldering something once every month or so.
The sole source of damage has been flux, no symptoms of lead poisoning were ever reported, no significant traces of lead were found. However it is to be considered, that soldering lead-free usually incurs higher activated flux (i.e. halogen doped), or higher soldering temperature which causes higher burn and evaporation, so it's likely that lead-free soldering may be more harmful.
Siana Gearz people aren't as strong as they used to be
Phonotical - you are not right. It is dangerous. I am an entronic technician since 1970, i don't sit near to solder smoke now. When I breath solder smoke i feel head ache, vomiting etc. One of my friend (e-tech) had hempilical herania, now he do not sit near to solder smoke. One another friend had eye baloons (inflamation below of eys). Also another e-tech had limphoma, passed away.
It is very dangerous than smoking.
The reason is that you are very close to, while soldering. Due to this major portion of solder smoke is breathed. Always keep a small fan to push away the smoke and do not sit in the direction of smoke.
The solder is lead (Pb) + tin it is poisonous. Drink one cup fresh lemon drink every day evening if you work on solder.
Good luck
t.hussain what has lemon got to do with anything?
Phonotical to chill ... perhaps ?
The script sucks horribly. Still like for good try.
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