Pedro, could you tell me how do you kill the edges of JNATs? Do you you use a diamond plate? Do you recommend using it or are there other better methods of killing the edges of natural hones?
Hi Felix.. Yes, diamond plate is the best method. After lapping, just a few strokes around the edges should be fine. You just want to avoid sharp edges.. But you can also use sandpaper.. Same result.
Dear Pedro, could you tell me please what nagura stones are you using in the video? I would really like to have them. I didn't imagine it was possible to do a complete honing just with a JNAT and some naguras. Incredible!
Hello Félix! This are Asano naguras, (botan, tenjyou and mejiro). With this you can mountain a razor for a long time, but you can also do that with Just Diamond slurry.. I don't recomend them. I have this set more as a collectable. I don't use it often. This are traditionally used on katanas. You can't set a bevel with this set. Well, you probably can but depending on the edge condition it could take weeks of work...😉
@@MrSilvestre587 Its definitely possible with lower grit natural stones, but a lot quicker and easier with modern high quality synthetic stones. Jnats are the best on final stages.
@@pedrotrust please, could you make a video about how to hone a straight razor using cuticules? Is It possible to set the bevel using a Belgian blue cuticule? Do you need to make slurry with them?
@@MrSilvestre587 Hi Félix, its definitely possible, to set a bevel with a belgian blue but it would take way to much time. Since bevel set is the most important step of razor honing, in my opinion you should use a good quality synthetic stone, like a shapton, naniwa 1k, king, suehiro, etc... And do it in minutes instead of hours or even days, because most likely you will spend hours trying, and then find out the edge sucks, and you will need to start all over again. On razors ,you set the bevel on a 1k, 1.5 or 2k synthetic stone. That's it. I don't like to do the mid range work with coticules, I only use coticules to finish. It's the exact same thing as I do with a Jnat on the final stage. I don't get very good results using slurry on coticules, but to be honest I never tried hard enough. I'm sure they can be very good mid range stones.. But I will stick to my trusted shapton 5k.
very nice indeed, not just asmr for the sake of asmr but an excellent demonstration of how to refine steel blades on whetstones. this is a very high grit stone and thus the sounds are very silky and smooth - interestingly if you'd used a less refined blade on a coarser grit stone, it may have produced a slightly different asmr experience
Thank you ! Could have been much better , with a different angle , better mic, different stones... I have videos with different stones but I explain what I'm doing, I did not make them thinking of ASMR.. Maybe I will do a new one.. ;) Cheers !
What kind of stone is that Pedro? (Shobu, Oozuku, Nakayama, etc...) I know that generally speaking the mine where it came from doesn't matter but I am curious about the color of the stone
Pedro enjoying your channel. Some incredible straight razor techniques I’m picking up. Could you tell me which magnification instrument you used…in particular the second device where you show us what you see through the scope. Would like to pick up that same unit. Great content all around!
Hello ! Um sorry I missed this comment. But better late than never. The instrument i mostly use is a cheap 40 or 60x loupe from Ebay/amazon. The important thing is to have light. Cheers ! Thanks for stopping by..
Sorry I did not get notification for your comment and missed it.. This one was bought from aframestokyo.com I've also bought some from ebay.. From Keith at tomonagura. I've also bought from people I know on the forums.
For straight razors you want to set the bevel with a stone around 1000 grit.. Can use a lower grit stone but the lower you get the harder it will be to remove the large scratches.. Then you need a mid range stone to remove the 1000 grit scratches. I use a 5000 grit. Some people like to use a 2 or 3k in between , that's fine. I dont find it necessary. Then you start your finishing process.. That is done using a at least 8k stone.. In my case I use a natural stone. Natural stones do not have a grit rating, because they're made by mother nature. With Japanese stones you use slurry , so with slurry it's easy to take an edge at 5000grit to something comparable to 12k or more.. Because slurry particles break down, acting like a higher grit.. Then you can finish with water only, it will polish the edge even more, like a 15k or more synthetic would do. But with the advantage of keeping the edge feeling super smooth and comfortable.. After all that we strop the razor on leather to refine, smooth and aligne the apex.. Hope this helps! Thanks for watching.. ;)
@@MrElliott1979 At the moment I can't remember any seller in UK but a know others outside UK. All depends on your budget. Join us on this UK based forum if you like: facebook.com/groups/straightrazoruk/
Half an hour of stoning? damn man this blade will cut the entire existence.
That is one slick razor man! Your video will be my new addition to my ASMR playlist.
Thank you !
Pedro, could you tell me how do you kill the edges of JNATs? Do you you use a diamond plate? Do you recommend using it or are there other better methods of killing the edges of natural hones?
Hi Felix.. Yes, diamond plate is the best method. After lapping, just a few strokes around the edges should be fine. You just want to avoid sharp edges..
But you can also use sandpaper.. Same result.
Dear Pedro, could you tell me please what nagura stones are you using in the video? I would really like to have them. I didn't imagine it was possible to do a complete honing just with a JNAT and some naguras. Incredible!
Hello Félix!
This are Asano naguras, (botan, tenjyou and mejiro).
With this you can mountain a razor for a long time, but you can also do that with Just Diamond slurry..
I don't recomend them. I have this set more as a collectable.
I don't use it often.
This are traditionally used on katanas.
You can't set a bevel with this set.
Well, you probably can but depending on the edge condition it could take weeks of work...😉
@@pedrotrust Pedro, is It possible to hone a straight razor using only JNATS or are they only used to polish the edge of a razor?
@@MrSilvestre587 Its definitely possible with lower grit natural stones, but a lot quicker and easier with modern high quality synthetic stones. Jnats are the best on final stages.
@@pedrotrust please, could you make a video about how to hone a straight razor using cuticules? Is It possible to set the bevel using a Belgian blue cuticule? Do you need to make slurry with them?
@@MrSilvestre587 Hi Félix, its definitely possible, to set a bevel with a belgian blue but it would take way to much time. Since bevel set is the most important step of razor honing, in my opinion you should use a good quality synthetic stone, like a shapton, naniwa 1k, king, suehiro, etc... And do it in minutes instead of hours or even days, because most likely you will spend hours trying, and then find out the edge sucks, and you will need to start all over again.
On razors ,you set the bevel on a 1k, 1.5 or 2k synthetic stone. That's it.
I don't like to do the mid range work with coticules, I only use coticules to finish. It's the exact same thing as I do with a Jnat on the final stage.
I don't get very good results using slurry on coticules, but to be honest I never tried hard enough. I'm sure they can be very good mid range stones.. But I will stick to my trusted shapton 5k.
How is the geometry on the Revisers? As good a Ralf Aust?
Excellent, at least the ones I tried. Really good razors.
Wackers aren't.. at least the ones I tried, I sent two back
very nice indeed, not just asmr for the sake of asmr but an excellent demonstration of how to refine steel blades on whetstones. this is a very high grit stone and thus the sounds are very silky and smooth - interestingly if you'd used a less refined blade on a coarser grit stone, it may have produced a slightly different asmr experience
Thank you !
Could have been much better , with a different angle , better mic, different stones...
I have videos with different stones but I explain what I'm doing, I did not make them thinking of ASMR..
Maybe I will do a new one.. ;)
Cheers !
What kind of stone is that Pedro? (Shobu, Oozuku, Nakayama, etc...) I know that generally speaking the mine where it came from doesn't matter but I am curious about the color of the stone
It's a very hard and fine Shoubudani.. ;) Thank you for stopping by!
what grade of stone?
Very, very hard, very fine grain. Some would say LV5++
It's the only jnat I kept. Plus the naguras ofcourse.
Pedro enjoying your channel. Some incredible straight razor techniques I’m picking up.
Could you tell me which magnification instrument you used…in particular the second device where you show us what you see through the scope.
Would like to pick up that same unit.
Great content all around!
Hello !
Um sorry I missed this comment. But better late than never.
The instrument i mostly use is a cheap 40 or 60x loupe from Ebay/amazon.
The important thing is to have light.
Cheers !
Thanks for stopping by..
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Were do you source your jnats?
Sorry I did not get notification for your comment and missed it..
This one was bought from aframestokyo.com
I've also bought some from ebay..
From Keith at tomonagura.
I've also bought from people I know on the forums.
Hey do you hone razors for others? I’ve got some razors that desperately need a hone but my skills aren’t compatible to yours.
Hi..
Yes I do. But I'm located in Portugal.
That’s not an issue , I’m in the uk
Pedro Carvalho how much do you charge ?
@@totalanthony 10€ each.. Plus shipping costs.
Pedro Carvalho sweet are you on the Straight Razor Honing Facebook page?
where you buy that shobudani?
www.aframestokyo.com
Nice stuff.
Good job Pedro.Resitale.
Olá amigo,essa pedra é uma Mizu asagi?
What does the wood thing do on the stone
I think you mean the small yellow stone ? That's a stone, softer than the base stone. To create slurry, those stones are named naguras.
Do you know what grit # stone you are using? I have some whetstones for sharpening knives and I want to know if I can use them with a straight razor.
For straight razors you want to set the bevel with a stone around 1000 grit.. Can use a lower grit stone but the lower you get the harder it will be to remove the large scratches..
Then you need a mid range stone to remove the 1000 grit scratches. I use a 5000 grit. Some people like to use a 2 or 3k in between , that's fine. I dont find it necessary.
Then you start your finishing process.. That is done using a at least 8k stone..
In my case I use a natural stone. Natural stones do not have a grit rating, because they're made by mother nature.
With Japanese stones you use slurry , so with slurry it's easy to take an edge at 5000grit to something comparable to 12k or more.. Because slurry particles break down, acting like a higher grit..
Then you can finish with water only, it will polish the edge even more, like a 15k or more synthetic would do. But with the advantage of keeping the edge feeling super smooth and comfortable..
After all that we strop the razor on leather to refine, smooth and aligne the apex..
Hope this helps!
Thanks for watching.. ;)
Nice honing, do you know where I can get a good 3 inch hanging strop in the UK ?
@@MrElliott1979
At the moment I can't remember any seller in UK but a know others outside UK. All depends on your budget.
Join us on this UK based forum if you like:
facebook.com/groups/straightrazoruk/
That is one smexy sounding stone. Or blade. Both? Video.
@@lakeireland Yeah, both.. 😊 Thank you.
My razor!!!
...and what a razor my friend ! 👍😎
Pedro Carvalho I think it will be my next video.
Stop flicking the nagura stone off the whetstone.
😆