Keto vs Paleo Study For Multiple Sclerosis [Dr. Terry Wahls Interview]
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Modified Paleo diet or the ketogenic diet. Which is better for multiple sclerosis? Dr. Terry Wahls is recruiting for a new randomized trial attempting to answer this question.
A screening survey for eligibility to participate in this study is available here: redcap.icts.ui...
Information about the trial: clinicaltrials...
The WAVES study (Paleo vs. Swank) published in Sage: journals.sagep...
Dr. Terry Wahls Official Website: terrywahls.com/
"The Wahls Protocol" by Dr. Wahls on Amazon: www.amazon.com...
Correction to the video: people with a BMI more than 40 are no longer excluded from the study and can participate.
"The Wahls Protocol Cooking for Life: The Revolutionary Modern Paleo Plan to Treat All Chronic Autoimmune Conditions" by Dr. Terry Wahls on Amazon: www.amazon.com...
Notes about the study we are discussing:
Clinical Trial: Efficacy of Diet on Quality of Life in Multiple Sclerosis (EDQ:MS)
ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier: NCT05007483
Type of MS: relapsing-remitting multiple sclerosis (RRMS)
Treatment mode of action: dietary intervention
Number of Participants: 156
Medication: Participants may continue disease-modifying treatments if they are on them
Institution: University of Iowa
Address: 200 Hawkins Drive, Iowa City, Iowa 52242
Contact Name: Mary Ehlinger
Phone: 319-384-5002
Email: MSDietStudy@healthcare.uiowa.edu
Funding: Gift from the Carter Chapman Shreve Family Foundation to the Therapeutic Lifestyle Fund at the University of Iowa
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Dr. Brandon Beaber is a board-certified neurologist with subspecialty training in multiple sclerosis and other immunological diseases of the nervous system. He is a partner in the Southern California Permanente Medical Group and practices in Downey, California (South Los Angeles). He has several publications on MS epidemiology and has participated in clinical trials for MS therapeutics. You can follow him on twitter @Brandon_Beaber where he regularly posts about MS news and research.
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when I'm on a ketogenic, I feel good. Improved mode, less fatigue, and over better quality of life. I also exercise 4-6 days a week. I don't think it effects my MS symptoms, however. I think it's obvious these two diets are beneficial, especially with exercise, but I don't know if i'm convinced its slowing ms progression. I do have an open mind and interested in seeing results.
That was an excellent interview you did with Dr Terry Walhs. I love how you gave Syracuse a shout out because I'm from Syracuse and have been here my whole life. It's funny because most neurologists in my area blow off diet as far as outcomes for MS , especially since it was in one of our local news stories last year that Syracuse had one of the highest rates of MS. Thanks again for all your hard work Dr Brandon , I appreciate you doing these videos for us every week. Have a grest day.
The rate of MS in Syracuse has been found to be as high as 1/222! www.syracuse.com/health/2019/10/syracuse-has-highest-rate-of-multiple-sclerosis-in-us-study-shows.html
@@DrBrandonBeaber I sent corrected Brandon, I forgot that article was from almost 3 years ago. I remember when it came out and the picture of the man getting an infusion is one of our then local weathermen Dave Longley. He still works for the channel but in a different position now. Thank you for refreshing my mind sir. One more thing about that article I can't understand is if we're tops as far as MS goes what hell is being done about it? I do remember that article was big news for a few weeks and that I heard nothing since. My last question is what does one have to do to get either you or Aaron boster here to Upstate New York to do a talk about MS? Have a great rest of your day my friend.
I’ve followed her and her protocol for well over a decade. The one ((BIG)) point to ask Terry regarding her protocol eliminating eggs: she’s not saying all eggs are the same… correct? BIG difference between factory / industrial raised chickens/ eggs VS. farm raised chicken on pasture. This is my biggest criticism of her: as eggs has saved my health on three continents. Someone ask her to specify, please!!!
She was required to publish the diet exactly as she followed it and she personally has an egg allergy so she did not consume any eggs and she feels eggs can be a common allergen so she advised people avoid them but if you don't have an allergy eggs are an excellent food.
A big thank you to the private donor! ❤️🙏❤️🙏
Improving diet would improve fatigue and quality of life for any population segments not just MS.
I would consider enrolling if an RRMS diagnosis were to be confirmed. Until it is, I am learning eagerly about how to heal at the cellular level, support my mitochondria, improve my gut microbiome, reduce inflammation, raise vitamin levels where they are insufficient, and improve symptoms like fatigue, cognitive fog, and spasticity. I hope to reduce any comorbidities so that if MS is my fate, I can move into it with as much strength and resolve as possible. Currently have lost 33 pounds since November to improve my health, with about 15 to go to be at a healthy weight.
I also find the evolving data around Long COVID and neurological implications to be in this same lane, so I believe your studies and the data will be useful in several venues. I applaud you both for your commitment to help people fight for their health. You are making such a difference and we are listening!
Excellent video as always, Dr. Beaber! Can’t thank you enough for continuing to invest your time and effort into making such great content. It’s great to see you interview Dr. Wahls as well, I’m hopeful that her study does reveal at least some kinds of insights into dietary impact on MS, even if diet isn’t ultimately a silver bullet.
The inclusion of dairy and olive oil seems silly to me. I think this will show that her paleo diet is better, because of this. I think it would be better to give keto a better chance by doing a very clean, dairy free, animal based version. As far as I know, there is no solid evidence of sat fat being harmful to heart health. In my own experience and so many others online, the carnivore diet beats all of these diets by a long shot. It is frustrating that no one is looking at the carnivore diet for research.
I do both diets to control my Hashimoto. Aip low carb. Hasn’t done much for my ms but drastically improved the Hashimoto.
I looked into her diet when I got diagnosed 2 years ago today (happy ms-versary to me) and was so bummed. I fall into the kidney stone (medullary sponge kidney disease) category. I control my stones with diet so i thought I could for ms too.
Regardless, it's inspiring to see how she has come so far with her ms and is now helping others! 😀
Check out, Sally K. Norton.
I did too when I was first diagnosed but got very disturbed and my body was not responding well
I also was confused about starting on medication, which was not really greatly choice I guess!
Thanks for this great interview and helping Dr Wahls promote this important study.
Very interesting! This is a great video to stay connected with what is happening in clinical studies. Thanks for sharing!
I followed a diet called Overcoming MS very stringently for over 5 years. When I started I didn’t need a mobility aid. It will be 6 years in November that I’m still adhering to the diet but I have had significant progression. I now need a rollator to walk. I think the diet helps with fatigue but it certainly did not stop my progression
Also, you need cholesterol to make myelin BTW. Even Terry Wahls recommends in her book to keep your cholesterol up. Studies actually show that those with the lowest cholesterol live the shortest lifespans. It is really sad how much misinformation there is about diet. Most of what is recommended is not backed by good science. They are made based on the lowest form of evidence that doesn't even prove cause and effect, just correlation. The carnivore diet is all anecdote but once you try it, there is no denying that it is working. You won't need science to tell you that it is healing you.
I just looked that one up. Seems Very very different from Wahls protocol
Please dr can you talk about PML with tecfidera pill i need to know more about it please 😢
Would have liked her answer to what her diet is? Has she been consistent with her Wahl’s Diet? Modifications?
She previously stated that is very consistent with her diet and takes many principles from the Wahls Paleo Plus. Details in this video: ruclips.net/video/cmLdfkq4BpY/видео.html
@@DrBrandonBeaber That video is two years old Just curious if she’s consistent and disciplined since then
@@rawsomehappy absolutely consistent
Great information!!! Thank you both!!!
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Excellent information and interview.
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It was great to see you both together… I’ve tried the keto before and for me personally- I became weak ( hypoglycemic- couldn’t stay above 60 )
But I added some lean protein/ and the good carbs I needed.
Along with IF seems to be good. Mainly I see a NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCE if I eat sugar- sugar bad- but so tasty 🤣😉 so that’s what I watch- no process foods/ low sugar. Lots o fruits/ veg. Great vid again
Finally she might be able to legitimize her claims of her first helps with MS
Do a topic on reducing costly MS medications.
You may find this video interesting: ruclips.net/video/prOTdeI50LQ/видео.html
Are MS medications costly? How much are you paying? If your insurance is paying, it's not expensive for you. We can all be happy that MS medications are so lucrative for pharmaceutical companies because that's why we have so many, ever better, medicines for a relatively rare disease.
@@Alan01 Not true for the US. Most insurances have deductibles, copays & out of pocket maximums, which come out to about $3K-15K annually depending on the plan.
I’m wondering why the study is just RRMS? I’m primary progressive and frustrated at the lack of studies/research into The Primary Progressive type of MS
I think the main reason is relapsing MS is [generally speaking] easier for research because there are clear discrete outcomes to measure such as relapses and new MRI lesions. Many people with progressive MS can worsen or improve significantly but still have an EDSS of 6.0 or 6.5.
And the dog keeps chaseing the tail...
relapses and mri lesions may be easy
to monitor but their eadication has
not stopped ms...it is neurodegeerative
disease.. not AI.
Her diet is much expensive... & If someone is underweight what He or She will do ?? Should they add anything extra to gain weight & on the other hand will be helpful for MS recovery. ?? Any suggestion??
I don't see how it's more expensive when you eliminate multiple food products.
Since it's geographic that's probably related to the vitamin D immune system strength and since fasting and ketosis improves it it probably the improves with leaky gut and fasting reboots the immune system after a few days. Olive oil is not the best fat, it would be saturated and monounsaturated fats. Olive oil is still too high in omega 6. Butter, coconut and ruminant beef fat are the best. Maybe some Palm oils. Cholesterol is good for everyone. She's out of touch with the saturated fat and cholesterol lies.
Hello Dr. Brandon Beaber. I find all its content too interesting for me who do not know much about medicine or neurology. Thank you very much for so much information. I would like to know if you could explain gliosis or if you could recommend an article or inform me about it. a family member was diagnosed with gliosis and I don't know how to react to it. Thank you very much for your content, I hope your channel grows a lot!
Curious about correlation, if any, of environmental variables and incidence of MS. Sunlight, diet, latitude, air borne pollution and ground water and soil contamination come to mind. Syracuse has its fair share of environmental issues.
He has some videos on sunlight. All of the things you mentioned affect MS. Especially personal care products like shampoos, makeup, perfumes etc.
Roy Swank, M.D.
How does phosphatidylcholine help for MS ?
Paleo plus diet tells to eat coconut oil, which is rich in saturated fats.. and isn't that unhealthy? Please clarify
You are right that coconut oil is high in saturated fat, but whether or not it is unhealthy is up for debate.
Can you repair the myelin sheath?
Thank you, Dr. Beaber! Would you consider opening the satellite site for Dr. Wahl's study's in-office visits in CA? Going to Iowa city is far....
It would be difficult for me to participate in this type of research right now since I don't have the right staff to help me.
@@DrBrandonBeaber There r ways that main site's stuff does all the work, but it still involves your local IRB reviews & possibly associated fees. My understanding it's just standard of care neuro exam. The questionairies & food diaries r handled by Iowa stuff remotely.
@@freethinkeralways If you invent a drug that allows me to sleep 3 hours per night and still feel well rested with no side effects, I would be happy to participate in the trial ;)
@@DrBrandonBeaber 😀😀😀
I’m convinced keto started my ms. Had my first attack with transverse myelitis while doing the Keto diet. I think keto gave my immune system a boost that caused it to attack me. I had previously had been seen for low wbc by hematologist. Called it unexplained leukopenia. Thought I could sign up to do the trial but I wouldn’t be will to do keto again. ☹️
Tried low carb but really don't like meat, never have. So keto and paleo not for me.
If you have MS, don’t you want to get better ? Who cares what you like if it medicinally helps you ?
How do you in roll?
All trials go through trials.gov
The Venn-Diagram of people who have MS or type 1 diabetes in my family is a freegin circle 😂. So idk exactly how so many people in one family have it, if there’s not a genetic component. My vita B levels just wouldn’t come up even on a supplement while on a whole food plant-based diet, despite my MRIs remaining stable. In the end I went back to doing a 75-85% plant based diet, with fish and wild game. If I don’t get the plants in? My stomach is… is a mess. Ppl need to understand that diet after 3-4 months becomes a habit, and your taste buds do change. It is more expensive in America to eat healthy than it is to be a participant of the S.A.D..
Pender says people inherit low CD8+ tcells which allows EBV to
Thrive and results in AI disease like
Diabetes and MS..so it happens from low tcells and not specific MS genes
Can you please make a video on Lucid MS?
There is only animal data on this so far as far as I know, so I will wait a bit on this.
@@DrBrandonBeaber OK. Do you know if it is currently being tested on humans or if there are plans for that? Is it a new drug?
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