Professor Alex van den Heever on the significance of the NHI bill

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  • Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
  • The National Health Insurance (NHI) bill has passed another hurdle on it's way to becoming law.
    After being passed by the National Assembly, it was passed by the National Council of Provinces earlier this week.
    The Health Minister says it will be implemented in stages once it gets the presidential not.
    Most stakeholders laud the idea behind National Health Insurance in South Africa which is to provide access to quality healthcare services for all, not just those who can afford to pay for private doctors or cover.
    But various bodies like the South African Medical Association have said that the bill is unaffordable and unfeasible in it's current form.
    To discuss we're joined by Professor Alex van den Heever from the Wits Social Security Systems Administration and Management studies.
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Комментарии • 70

  • @paulinebeardall7373
    @paulinebeardall7373 6 месяцев назад +26

    I just can't imagine our politicians queing up in a hospital reception waiting to see a specialist. I suppose they will have private doctors or go to Russia for treatment!

  • @Codydoggy
    @Codydoggy 6 месяцев назад +16

    We need a new government

  • @garygould3651
    @garygould3651 6 месяцев назад +8

    If they take away my right to private healthcare it will be "the straw that breaks the camel's back" and I will be forced to leave SA. Sadly.

    • @giselealmeidavellozakildai3335
      @giselealmeidavellozakildai3335 6 месяцев назад +1

      I agree. I can't live in a country where I do not have fast and efficient attention to my health care needs. I will leave SA too rather than die 😢

  • @pieropastorino6905
    @pieropastorino6905 6 месяцев назад +12

    Is this another way of putting lots of money into a few pockets?

    • @annsnetler6510
      @annsnetler6510 6 месяцев назад

      Definitely!

    • @mizurashi2643
      @mizurashi2643 6 месяцев назад

      I take it that this is a rhetorical question 🤧 seems like we're falling ever so deeper into a bottomless abyss of cadre's self-serving interests

  • @markconacher1148
    @markconacher1148 6 месяцев назад +6

    How the public service workers who all have subsided medical aid, how they don't work against this through trade unions is beyond me

  • @andrekruger135
    @andrekruger135 6 месяцев назад +15

    I've practiced medicine in South Africa, the U.K, Ireland and New Zealand. When I needed medical care, I took the first available flight to South Africa, to a health care facility initiated, established and operated on free market principles. In the U.K. I would have waited months just for an appointment date. In South Africa I had all necessary investigations and procedures between the airport and home. Government needs to look after infrastructure and safety. Everything else will be done better, more economical and more effective by free initiative rather than a BoBBBB: Bunch of Burly Big Bungling Bureaucrats.

    • @shafiyaalgiquadra1105
      @shafiyaalgiquadra1105 6 месяцев назад +2

      How much did that cost you? It is not about how easily you had it but about providing those who cannot afford, due to racism and austerity, the necessary healthcare.😊

    • @truth-Hurts375
      @truth-Hurts375 6 месяцев назад

      I don't believe a single word of your bullshit...you forgot that you are not the only person who lived and work in these countries...in all of them you calso take out private health care and then you are never on any waiting waiting list...I doubt your claim to be medical doctor in all of these countries...you are a liar !!!!

    • @senselessza1
      @senselessza1 6 месяцев назад +1

      It's due to basic economics. Go back to school. 30% is not a pass.

    • @AIRview2
      @AIRview2 6 месяцев назад +1

      How a few taxpayers will fund this not forgetting the looting of ALL money is a miracle.

  • @johnmajor9564
    @johnmajor9564 6 месяцев назад +4

    Sounds pretty unconstitutional according to the expert. So don’t worry the constitutional court will throw it out.

  • @user-ix2ox4fm9d
    @user-ix2ox4fm9d 6 месяцев назад +5

    Someone I know in the UK has Tri-Neuralgia its extremely painful it affects your hearing,face and head she has seen a consultant who said he would try his best to try and get permission to operate he told het the list is 9 months long she has had it now for 4 months the medication is so strong her daughter has to help her with getting up out of bed and dressing her. I remember post war UK going to see a doctor at the hospital and wr could be there the wgole day and still have go back the following only to find you could be at the end of the queue so you start all over again. Present day they don't have enough doctors or nu nurses it's total chaos and people are dying before they get to see anyone if a country who has had NHI since 1948 what chance does SA have if being successful. What it taught me was wait until you are really in bad way because your chances of seeing a might be better. In my teens in the UK I had appendicitis and I had to travel from the town where I lived on the bus I was told they had to do an emergency op I woke up 2 days later. Thats NHI all I see in SA is total chaos.

  • @delamaiwald327
    @delamaiwald327 6 месяцев назад +3

    Health reform is needed. The public sectors failings are obvious. The private sectors failings not. Ever more money is spent in private for less care, review the latest discovery aid contributions, paired with gap cover to be able to afford a private physician that charges what he feels he is worth.

  • @deanoclothier8426
    @deanoclothier8426 6 месяцев назад +3

    Everything that this government has done is turning to dust! Our current health system is a mess! I admitt that I haven't read the bill, however, as regards the ANC, "..if past is prologue..", is where I'm coming from!

  • @shafiyaalgiquadra1105
    @shafiyaalgiquadra1105 6 месяцев назад +4

    Come on and join us in the line😁and let us see you call for reducing the civil service after you witness its direct impact on your health.

  • @charmainemoodley2414
    @charmainemoodley2414 Месяц назад

    Watching Ramaphosa signing in this bill, I was hoping for him to inform us on what the bill entails. That is what he should have done rather than giving us a history lesson. So as much as I agree with NHI, I also believe that this was politicking

  • @chantalhearnshaw1478
    @chantalhearnshaw1478 6 месяцев назад +1

    No. The government hospital does work

  • @user-yf7ul5ue6t
    @user-yf7ul5ue6t 15 дней назад

    Our doctors and surgeon will all be on the next plane out if this country .😢

  • @aphiwemagaya3279
    @aphiwemagaya3279 6 месяцев назад +2

    I honestly see no difference in this NHI compared to the failed public health care of this country. This wastes time and taxpayers' money, especially when you don't address the current public health care system!

  • @francvancanvas
    @francvancanvas 6 месяцев назад +7

    The visuals in your reporting could have been more realistic showing pasients lying on the bare floors in the passages. No cleaned toilets, nurses loitering aroung and sitting on beds eating KFC. The reality is total chaos not being portrayed in your presentation. Pity!

  • @mathewman
    @mathewman 6 месяцев назад +1

    these people can be compared to the Luddites or even the bittereinders-take your pick

  • @annsnetler6510
    @annsnetler6510 6 месяцев назад

    Truth !

  • @shafiyaalgiquadra1105
    @shafiyaalgiquadra1105 6 месяцев назад +1

    🤗

  • @gordongraham2003
    @gordongraham2003 6 месяцев назад +2

    # Pit toilets and begged generators #😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @giselealmeidavellozakildai3335
    @giselealmeidavellozakildai3335 6 месяцев назад +3

    People will die

  • @Chantelleweich
    @Chantelleweich 6 месяцев назад

    Another unelected foreign body (WHO) telling SA what to do...
    Time to change the system!

  • @user-yf7ul5ue6t
    @user-yf7ul5ue6t 15 дней назад

    Shew what next? Heaven Forbid!😮

  • @cainestadler9414
    @cainestadler9414 6 месяцев назад

    If The western Cape gains independence then Doctors can continue as private practicioners

  • @shafiyaalgiquadra1105
    @shafiyaalgiquadra1105 6 месяцев назад +6

    Hahaha the beneficiaries of apartheid fighting tooth and nail to retain their privilege...it will end in tears😂

    • @gbone7581
      @gbone7581 6 месяцев назад +4

      Especially for the previously disadvantaged.

    • @markconacher1148
      @markconacher1148 6 месяцев назад

      All the public servants not apartheid favored whites, are going to loose their privilege as they have medical aid

    • @shafiyaalgiquadra1105
      @shafiyaalgiquadra1105 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@gbone7581 hahaha I don't think so, our services can only get worse while we allow a two tier system but it can only get better by forcing everyone to use the same system thereby incentivising the standardisation of healthcare.
      As it stands we have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

    • @johnmajor9564
      @johnmajor9564 6 месяцев назад

      @@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 Doctors associations already threatened mass migration, there is enough evidence to proof that any state owned enterprise or entity is not being run efficiently and effectively in SA. But you’re right it will lead to standardization: Everyone will receive a shoddy standard of healthcare except those who can afford to fly out of the country for treatment or simply pay cash for their treatment, e.g. your typical anc minister. Turkey is going the other way: promoting jobs and investment by supporting private healthcare in order to create a healthcare hub for foreigners.

    • @gbone7581
      @gbone7581 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 dream on

  • @seanprinsen7265
    @seanprinsen7265 6 месяцев назад +6

    Show me one State owned enterprise that isn't in ruins? Then we can talk...

    • @mavildiajones5644
      @mavildiajones5644 6 месяцев назад

      SARS works

    • @seanprinsen7265
      @seanprinsen7265 6 месяцев назад

      @@mavildiajones5644 lol. Do you remember Mrs, "Please protect me from yourself?"