I love how Rick mentions how he's so protective of his hermit lifestyle and who he lets in, who he spends time with and how he manages his life. My home is my sanctuary and I'm protective of who enters it as well as what happens in it and I'm protective of what I put my efforts towards in my outside life as well. I don't find much value in things that seem meaningful today - social media, beauty, etc. A lot of people, including my family think there's something wrong with me because I don't follow societal norms but it's how I find peace and knowing that Rick Rubin does some of these same things makes me feel better about myself.
I feel that. So much. I was like this even as a child and didn’t know it was what i was doing at the time, protecting my inner world and environment. Now i know but people will make you seem too intense or taking things to seriously… I think it’s more so moving through life intentionally and finding one’s purpose early.
To everyone reading this, I sincerely pray for that whatever is causing you pain or stress will pass. May your negative thoughts, excessive worries and doubts disappear, replaced by clarity and understanding. May your life be filled with peace, tranquility and love
2:13:13 One of the things I like about listening to music in English (or other languages) as a non-native speaker is that I get to disassociate from the lyrics and just feel the music. Then, once I read the lyrics, I get a second experience of listening to the song, now knowing what it's all about.
The Creatives We're the odd balls, and we're the rejects, We're the bastards on the outskirts of the crowd. We're the ones who feel alone even when everyone else is around. We live in our heads and speak from our hearts. Our deepest emotions are what we strive to impart. Melancholy is our dearest friend, While our introspective tendencies will be our end. Some might paint, while others might sketch, Some lay in bed at night, Searching for the word that's next. We're alchemists of ideas, And gardeners of creation, Carefully cultivating gardens of possibility In the rich soil of imagination. We're intuitively perceptive and deeply empathic, We view the world through a different aesthetic. Our souls' long for the home that our hearts beat for, Because we've never found peace at any door. We're the dream-weavers and thought-sculptors, Meticulously crafting our art, Like that of a spider who slowly constructs its part. As every thread builds, the layers grow deeper, Every thought connects, displaying the beauty in its features. We are the creatives, the one-of-a-kinds. We show the world the beauty we see, Hidden in the sublime. Inspiration came from this Rick Rubin quote "A lot of people who are artists don't understand it themselves. Especially the young ones. They feel different, but they don't know what it is. They feel more. Everything hurts. Everything. They're super sensitive. They see things that other people don't see." -Rick Rubin
I absolutely love the fact that Huberman writes in all caps and switches to cursive as his writing speed increases. I am the same way, and it floors me to know I have this commonality with this man whose podcast has completely changed my life and outlook for the better. Dr. Huberman, you and Rick Rubin are two of my favorite people on this planet. You both have influenced my thought processes and habits in a positive manner, and I am sincerely grateful for either of you and your work.
Your humility and graciousness are heart warming, Dr. Huberman; your impressive qualities stand out, especially because they are seemingly unusual in this country.
Huberman mentioned that feeling of abandonment when trying to work. I can relate, but I thought I was alone in that. It’s interesting how the work of creation so frequently feels like an incredibly lonely process. I couldn’t bear it when I was younger, but it’s easier to push through now - I think because I’m more emotionally “fed” by good relationships than I was when I was younger.
I’m 22 and I feel that same now. I’ve been putting off creating music because I feel so alone doing it. If I get anything from this podcast and your comment, it’s to use that feeling as a form of creativity.
I'm also 22, most of the time I'll favour relationship-building over working on an extra project, just to avoid the feeling that maybe i don't give enough time to people.
What about finding others to create with - not necessarily collaborating, but having someone else in the room to create with independently? FWIW, that's what Rick does and I think you'll find it to be where your best "work" comes out. Works for me.
Some people like both . Alone work is equally important as team work. Collaborative work is something you need to do but independent work let's you know what you bring to the table and where others fill your gaps
"We are vehicles for this information..." A Romantic period idea. THE Romantic period idea. Its essence. Thank you for reminding me of this, Mr. Rubin.
2:20:22- I feel that a lot of people are so afraid to be truly authentic out of fear of being cancelled, rejected, shamed, or told not to be this or that and the results are either isolation or acting like a version of themselves that is exhausting to keep up. If only we all had a friend like Rick who gives people the space to just be themselves and to know it's okay. I could listen to Rick forever.
The censorship and suppression is itself a sign of a fear of whatever 'authority' (pretended) the corporations are seemingly afraid, which doesn't actually exist. They're inventing this, I believe, to maintain the status quo, but the inevitability of humanity's evolvement will break whatever 'mold' or structure they've projecting into the world. All is energy, thoughts carry energy, so society will for a time maintain a jelly-like consistency of anti-humanism which must go the way of useless things. Whatever we project out into our world has tremendous power, far more powerful than their ideologies and intimidation tactics. This is why they have to spray us with chemicals, pollute our water (fluoride), land, air. Suppression of consciousness.
Rick Rubin is spot on, from the act of honest creativity processes, life style boundaries, mental/physical health exercises , to the film Melancholia. What a listening pleasure! Thank you. Happy New Year!!
Mike, your devotion to breath and its value is obvious and yr online contribution to the practices of breath serve many many people, but to claim that any breathing technique is yrs is surely wrong. The first yogis knew the origins, range, and applications of breath before recorded history. The breathing practice is bigger than you or me or any person. Thank you for yr passion and devotions to this neglected source of life.
I’ve been musing about getting back into writing for a while now. Whilst listening to this podcast I suddenly remembered the name of my writing blog that I had created when I was 20 years old. I found the site and tonnes of poetry I had written 10 years ago, ones I thought I lost forever. A lot of it makes me cringe but a few I treasure. Somehow I know I owe you, Andrew, and Rick, a very deep thank you.
Hooray that you found your blog and that your poetry was still there! I remembered my old blog because of the name, and found old and outdated posts, art I had forgotten I made, and you know what? It made me feel good too, like finding a treasure of my creative expression. Kudos to you, and I’m glad you commented about it.
Merry Christmas and thank you for this stimulating conversation so far. I'm consistently impressed by Dr Huberman's emotional vulnerability that is both relatable and instructive.
Greetings from Paris, France. Thank you to you both for this marvelous gift of time and energy. I started TM in 1974 to ease the anxiety of feeling untethered and out on a limb alone with my creative work. I am 71, still meditating and creating by managing to be in the moment making the beautiful thing. Bonne Année!
It's always rejuvenating to listen to someone who understands creativity so deeply. I was reminded of this quote that struck me while listening to Carl Sagan's "Pale Blue Dot" yesterday: "Galileo taught that we can interrogate nature by observation and experiment. Then, "facts which at first sight seem improbable will, even on scant explanation, drop the cloak which had hidden them and stand forth in naked and simple beauty."
I could listen to 10 more hours of this 🥲 more conversations between the two of you please. And how wholesome is it that you guys are friends irl. Andrew you have the best energy and come across as such a good soul xx thank you for making these
Loved this discussion, thank you for this content! There were many concepts that I deeply resonated with: 1. "everything I make is a diary entry" - yes! This is how I tend to approach my creative expression and when I try to look at it thinking about the end outcome, my work is just not as authentic or thought-provoking 2. Highly sensitive people have a deep desire to nurture their internal life/ internal world 3. "We don't make these things [art/work] for an outcome. It's not the mindset to make something great" 4. It's important to have good boundaries but also be able to receive ideas - it's like being a selective, semi-permeable membrane - this balance is something that I find challenging 5. Care less about what other people think - goes back to the diary entry approach especially when it comes to self-expression and how you are living your life
I hope this reaches you Andrew. Your authenticity and parts of you that you share are the true guts and content that you produce. Seeing your mindfulness and hesitation to speak because of comments of speaking too much hurts to see, the connection the two of you share surpasses this at times, but the reason i hope this reaches you is because i want to say that your voice and questions and self doubts speak to me, and i come back again and again to hear you speak to amazing people. I only hope to see your comfort in putting yourself fully into the interactions without that limiter. Thank you for the amazing episode!
You've all you need in your head right at this very moment, podcasts are helpful but watching two dudes have a conversation will only get you so far. ❤
As a musician, I often feel guilty about how often I choose to listen to podcasts over music. It’s incredibly validating to hear Rick frequently reference listening to podcasts throughout his day
I agree with Rick. You do it in a way that it's clear that you not only care, but you are so excited to have these gifts to share. Your passion is changing lives. I have struggled with being defeated by certain kinds of friction my whole life, and you gave me a whole new reason to try again. You hooked me with the promise of more dopamine. You could have said, "you have to fake it til you make it," and it would have been just as true, but the science convinced me, and it has changed my life. This is a gift, doctor. What could be more powerful? You just gave someone else a superpower. You are a power multiplier in the world.
0:20: 🎶 Rick Rubin, a renowned music producer, answers questions about the creative process in his book 'The Creative Act: A Way of Being' on the Huberman Lab podcast. 11:06: 🎧 The conversation covers topics such as endurance, podcasts, and meditation during a visit. 22:23: 🏋️♂️ The video discusses the speaker's approach to health and wellness, including natural living and weight loss. 34:21: 🕒 Deadlines are helpful at the end of a creative process, but not at the beginning. 45:33: 🤔 The speaker is hooked on a particular topic and finds it frustrating and exciting at the same time, comparing it to real life situations. 57:23: 🎶 The video discusses the dynamics of working with artists and handling finances in the music industry. 1:08:07: 📱 The video discusses the dual nature of smartphones as tools for creativity and as distractions. 1:19:25: 🎤 The video discusses the challenges of the entertainment industry and how to maintain creativity and love for the work. 1:30:34: 🚫 The speaker discusses their resistance to peer pressure and substance use, attributing it to being an only child. 1:42:13: 🤔 The speaker expresses uncertainty and skepticism about where to get reliable information and how to trust the news. 1:54:11: 🔴 The video discusses the benefits of limiting bright artificial light exposure in the evening and the use of red lens glasses and red screen on phones. 2:05:45: 🧬 The video discusses the possibility of genetic and epigenetic influences on creativity and music creation, but acknowledges that it remains a mysterious and unverifiable phenomenon. 2:17:51: 🎙️ The podcast focuses on intimate and personal interviews, driven by the interviewer's own interests. Recap by Tammy AI
Going into the "chaos" zone takes a lot of courage and confidence, because it includes knowing that at a certain point, we have to go back to the "normal"zone, aka boring life 😐. It's true. It's not for every one. It take skills to be able to navigate between both
Wow- Perfect timing. I am experiencing a wonderful shift in my life and this entire interview is such a gift to me- both as a health and wellness professional and creative spirit. Merry Christmas, happy holidays. Keep up the great work!
Loved spending time with you two, what a gift. I must say one of my favorite things about Rick is his rapid and genuine chuckling to humor, or things that affect him as humorous. I've seen him in many interviews, and he is mostly pretty serious, so the way he quickly surrenders without reservation so deeply and completely to funny things makes me giggle along with him every time. It feels like it's coming from his soul so spontaneously, and I love that so much! He literally sparkles, to me. Thank you both for the stupendous work you do and for holding your energy footprint on the planet -- invaluable.
Everything we make can be a personal reflection of who we are in that moment of time. Most blocks are either self judgment or fear of outside judgement. I’m making this thing for me and I want to do it to the best of my abilities and it feels good to me and it’s honest to where I’m at. And if you’re living in a world where you are just being honest with where you’re at there’s nothing blocking that. The rest is just stories we make up about why we can’t do it. Thank you Rick Rubin for your wisdom!
1:08:08 I am interested in the link to the Bible interpretations that Andrew mentioned and love if it were added to the notes. 🙏🏻 I am so grateful for Andrew, Rick and the team who invested the time, energy and love to create this profound podcast. Thank you all!
7:19 I did it and it’s so effective! Went from 28ms before to 91ms after the breathing. And before sleep went from below 30ms to over 40ms on the first night. Thank you
I love how in the beginning you can really notice a massive difference in Hubermans energy and intensity coming into the interview immediately after the breathing exercise! So cool!
As a creative painter i want to thank you so much to help me through my doubts and anxiety as making me feel i am not alone with all those feelings and that there is a solution...an inner training...thank you so much for your generosity in sharing your thoughts....
This is wild. I just finished your other interview with Rick and lo and behold this one popped up. This is like five hours worth of content in a single session. Feels like school. Lol. But the fact that this happened, I dont want to read too much into it but I think the universe is trying to tell me something lol. Anyways awesome stuff. Thanks. And big fan since day 1. Cant believe its been this long.
Hey Andrew, just wanted to say I really enjoy and appreciate your podcasts, you're super knowledgable yet so humble and you seem to truly care about educating people. Thanks for your work.
I have listened to this 2 or three times now and absolutely love it. Rick Rubin is so interesting and wise ! I'm a painter and some of the things Rick says here really resonate . So much to take in here !
Huberman, dude, metta is incredible. Way better than mindfulness meditation. But it's more than just phrases! Just repeating the phrases is basically the same as TM. Litmus test: if you're not smiling at some point during metta meditation, then you're not doing it right. The meditators who have done it long term start smiling when they've done it - you can read that in Richard Davidson's work, 'as soon as they started meditating in the MRI machine, a slight smile came on their face'. If you're curious what metta feels like, just think about how you feel when you have a genuine non-forced smile.
Andrew I've seen every single interview that Rick Rubin has done about the book. Making my way deliberately through the book now, it's dense so I'm taking my time! This was such a different interview than the others. Really appreciate your deep dive on these topics and also the consideration for your listeners/viewers - it's WILD the stack of comments you have in front of you! SO MUCH CARE - THANK YOUUU!!!
Absolutely amazing interview with a beautiful mind and soul. Everything discussed in this and the last interview with RR really pushed me forward on writing. It’s such a difficult moment, that instant you seem to lose all ideas and then motivation due to writer’s block or lack of inspiration. But the ‘diary’ idea is one heck of a way to view the process. And just like Rick said, don’t worry about the reaction, award or failure until after whatever is being worked on is done. Really needed to hear all of that. 💯✊❤
Man, I never heard someone describe wrestling that made sense as to why I've learned to like it again as I've gotten older. I've always been enthralled by Rick, but hueberman and his relationship shines here, and this conversation is raw beautiful. I am blessed to listen to this. Thanks guys
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🧘 *Meditar regularmente faz parte da vida de Rick Rubin há quase 45 anos, e os benefícios se acumulam ao longo do tempo, ajudando a mudar a forma como ele reage no mundo real.* 07:07 🌅 *Praticar a respiração coerente (coherence breathing) com seis respirações por minuto aumenta a variabilidade da frequência cardíaca e pode melhorar a saúde mental.* 12:13 🧘 *Transcendental Meditation (TM) é a prática de meditação de escolha de Rick Rubin, mas ele também incorpora técnicas de respiração e práticas de gratidão/meta em sua rotina.* 15:09 ☀️ *A exposição regular à luz solar, especialmente na manhã e no final da tarde, é importante para a regulação do ritmo circadiano e pode afetar positivamente o sono e o estado de alerta durante o dia.* 20:07 🎧 *Rick optou por usar fones de ouvido com fio em vez de Bluetooth devido a preocupações com a saúde, incluindo emfs (campos eletromagnéticos) e problemas de saúde relacionados, como cistos. Ele também mencionou a utilização de fones de ouvido com tubos de ar para evitar a exposição elétrica.* 22:12 🎙️ *Rick Rubin compartilha sua abordagem natural para saúde e bem-estar, incluindo a preferência por alimentos não processados e carne de qualidade.* 23:20 🥦 *Ele perdeu 135 lbs através de uma dieta rica em proteínas, baixa em calorias e carboidratos, sugerida por um médico da UCLA.* 25:40 🧠 *Rick discute sua visão sobre a inteligência artificial na criação artística, destacando a importância da perspectiva humana na arte.* 29:33 🎨 *Ele aborda bloqueios criativos, sugerindo que entender a causa subjacente, como autocrítica ou medo de julgamento, é essencial para superá-los.* 38:27 🎭 *Rick compartilha sua sensibilidade e a ideia de que muitos artistas usam drogas para lidar com emoções avassaladoras e sensibilidade extrema.* 41:51 💥 *Ele descreve sua paixão pelo wrestling como uma forma de teatro visceral que reflete a ambiguidade da realidade e da narrativa.* 44:20 🤼♂️ *Rick discute a atração humana pelo wrestling e sua mistura de violência aparente com proteção mútua, destacando a natureza primitiva e evoluída da nossa apreciação por ele.* 45:56 🌟 *Rick Rubin acredita que o valor de um projeto está na criação, não no resultado final. Ficar obcecado com o resultado pode prejudicar a arte.* 49:03 🧠 *A definição de "vale a pena" é dependente de um resultado, mas Rick sugere que o verdadeiro valor está em criar sem pensar no resultado. Preocupar-se com o resultado pode minar o processo criativo.* 52:04 🌟 *Tocar profundamente em si mesmo e estar conectado com algo mais profundo é fundamental para a criação autêntica e impactante, independentemente do campo.* 54:22 🧠 *Ter bons limites entre o eu e o mundo exterior, juntamente com uma mente aberta e uma disposição para a surpresa, é crucial para um processo criativo saudável.* 56:01 🎯 *Rick Rubin está disposto a adaptar, atualizar e mudar quando necessário, seja na nutrição, na cidade onde vive ou em suas crenças, mostrando uma abordagem científica para a vida.* 59:09 🎧 *Ter acesso ilimitado à música via internet é uma bênção, mas às vezes a curadoria de outras pessoas pode ser mais gratificante do que escolher cada música individualmente.* 01:03:13 📚 *Rick Rubin vê o acesso à informação na internet como uma ferramenta valiosa, mas também reconhece o desafio de ordenar e priorizar essa vasta quantidade de informações.* 01:06:27 💎 *A internet, especialmente o RUclips, permite o acesso a tesouros inesperados, como versões raras de músicas e vídeos antigos, enriquecendo a experiência criativa.* 01:08:35 💭 *Rick Rubin já escreveu seus sonhos em fases da vida, mas não o faz atualmente. Ele vê valor nas interpretações dos sonhos, mas sua abordagem pode variar ao longo do tempo.* 01:08:48 📚 *Manter um diário de sonhos pode revelar padrões e clareza sobre o que está acontecendo no seu subconsciente ao longo do tempo.* 01:09:32 🧠 *O subconsciente é como um supercomputador da mente humana, controlando nossos sonhos e tentando nos ensinar de maneiras que correspondem à nossa forma de aprendizado preferida.* 01:10:28 🎭 *O instinto e o subconsciente são fontes de ideias poderosas, enquanto as ideias originadas da mente intelectual tendem a ser menos impactantes.* 01:20:07 🎙️ *Focar no trabalho em vez de preocupar-se com a indústria do entretenimento pode ajudar a manter a criatividade e paixão pelo trabalho.* 01:21:42 💰 *A abordagem minimalista de fazer as coisas com os recursos disponíveis muitas vezes resulta em soluções mais criativas e autênticas do que gastar dinheiro excessivo.* 01:28:18 📣 *Solucionar problemas criativos pode resultar em inovações não planejadas, tornando um aspecto anteriormente desafiador em uma característica marcante do projeto.* 01:31:07 🚫 *Rick Rubin resistiu à pressão do álcool e das drogas, mantendo-se fiel a sua visão criativa, mesmo quando estava imerso na cena musical onde essas substâncias eram comuns.* 01:31:48 🧠 *Marcelo expressou seu desinteresse por álcool desde a adolescência, possivelmente devido a ser filho único e confiante em sua identidade.* 01:32:42 🌿 *Marcelo demonstrou curiosidade em relação a psicodélicos, especialmente o ibogaína e o macródoci bina, reconhecendo seus riscos e aplicações terapêuticas.* 01:35:12 🤔 *Marcelo abordou a relação entre criatividade e organização, destacando que a criatividade inicial pode ser caótica, mas a organização se torna mais importante posteriormente.* 01:36:20 🎨 *Rick Rubin mencionou a importância de manter um estado mental aberto e infantil para a criatividade.* 01:43:19 📰 *Rick Rubin compartilhou sua desconfiança em relação às notícias e como histórias imprecisas ou falsas sobre ele são comuns, levando à dúvida sobre a veracidade das notícias em geral.* 01:54:11 💡 *A rotina de Marcelo inclui evitar exposição à luz artificial brilhante à noite, usando óculos com lentes vermelhas e limitando atividades estimulantes, o que contribui para um sono de qualidade.* 01:54:53 📽️ *Música e vídeos: Rick Rubin fala sobre música e vídeos, destacando que as interpretações abertas das letras permitem que os ouvintes participem, enquanto os vídeos podem limitar a imaginação do espectador.* 01:59:30 📚 *Educação Formal: Rick Rubin considera a educação formal obsoleta e acredita que o mundo real, mentorias e estágios são muitas vezes uma maneira melhor de aprender.* 02:01:28 💑 *Relações: Rick Rubin enfatiza a importância de relacionamentos saudáveis, onde o trabalho é a parte mais estressante da vida, enquanto a casa é o refúgio seguro.* 02:06:07 🎶 *Influência Ancestral: Rick pondera se a criação artística pode transmitir traços genéticos ou heranças familiares ao longo de gerações, mas acredita que é um mistério sem resposta definitiva.* 02:16:45 🎙️ *Podcasting: Rick Rubin menciona que seu estilo de podcasting é mais íntimo e pessoal, baseado em suas próprias perguntas e interesses, sem pensar muito na audiência, diferenciando-se de outros formatos mais voltados para o público.* 02:18:39 🎙️ *Rick Rubin destaca a intimidade e autenticidade das conversas em podcasts, onde os participantes se envolvem em diálogos genuínos, sem a pressão do desempenho.* 02:21:08 📚 *A importância de compartilhar experiências pessoais e autênticas em podcasts, permitindo conexões verdadeiras e amizades genuínas.* 02:22:07 🎙️ *Criar um podcast de sucesso envolve ter conversas sobre temas que você realmente ama e é apaixonado, refletindo sua paixão e entusiasmo.* 02:25:23 📚 *Reconhecimento de Rick Rubin como um educador que compartilha sabedoria e experiência, impactando positivamente a criatividade e aprendizado de outras pessoas.* Made with HARPA AI
Rick is a gem in every way! Been loving both his podcasts for a few years and Tetragamatin is so great. And his path to health with a keto carnivore lifestyle is the best thing we've also done. You never look back once you are metabolically fit. Go Rick!
Fascinating discussion! Rubin’s perspective on being open to unconventional methods and attentive to the world for creative insights is inspiring. This discussion illustrates how staying curious and receptive to the world can fuel both health and creativity. I find it inspiring ✨ Thank you!
Next week I will be going on a trip to Hawaii with my aunt. Her and I have many conversations on our challenges navigating life, being highly sensitive and how to work on our creative projects. This is really going to inform our conversation. Thank you. It's refreshing to listen to you 2 beautiful people xox
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 06:25 🧘 *Rick Rubin discusses a coherence breathing exercise for heart rate variability, which he practices at least once a day for 10-20 minutes.* 11:59 🧘 *Rick Rubin mentions that Transcendental Meditation (TM) was the first meditation he learned at the age of 14 and has been a part of his life for 45 years.* 13:46 🧘 *Meditation, particularly TM, has become integral to Rick Rubin's life, and while practicing it amplifies the benefits, the cumulative effect is always present, acting as a foundation for how he engages with the world.* 21:59 💪 *Both Rick Rubin and the host discuss the evolution of health and wellness practices over the years, acknowledging the slow mainstream acceptance of practices like weightlifting, yoga, and breathwork. They emphasize the value of natural living and minimal product usage.* 23:47 🍽️ *Different diets work for different people, and healthy red meat can be beneficial.* 25:11 🎨 *Rick Rubin is unsure about AI's ability to shape art as it lacks a personal point of view.* 26:20 📚 *Rick Rubin enjoyed reading, playing guitar, and magic (card tricks, sleight of hand) as a child.* 28:37 🧠 *Many questions revolved around overcoming creative blocks; Rubin emphasizes focusing on personal expression.* 31:45 🚀 *Rubin suggests viewing creative work as a personal diary entry to eliminate self-judgment and external expectations.* 34:33 ⏰ *Deadlines help Rubin at the end of the creative process, but not at the beginning.* 37:28 🎭 *Rick Rubin discusses the challenges and sensitivity of artists, using substances to numb intense feelings.* 39:33 🤐 *Rubin lives a protected, monk-like life, controlling stimuli to protect his inner life.* 42:56 💪 *Wrestling relaxes Rubin, as it provides intense entertainment without real stakes, akin to theater.* 44:48 🤼 *Wrestling, like real life, blurs the lines between truth and fiction, representing the uncertainty of the world.* 47:23 🎤 *Johnny Cash was a soulful, knowledgeable, and humble man, and his strength as an artist lay in his ability to convey stories with incredible gravitas.* 49:03 🤔 *Rick Rubin emphasizes the importance of defining "worth it" in a creative journey and highlights the value of being comfortable with uncertainty and focusing on the process, not the outcome.* 50:11 🛑 *Rick warns against putting energy into outcomes that are beyond one's control, stating that thoughts about outcomes can undermine the creative process.* 52:18 🌌 *Rubin discusses the principles of creating art as a way of being, tapping into oneself, and creating a deep connection with the world, emphasizing openness, surprise, and holding beliefs loosely.* 53:25 🎨 *The artist's role is described as taking in various data points, both conscious and subconscious, and creating a constellation by tapping into oneself and being receptive to external influences.* 54:22 🌐 *Rick Rubin talks about the importance of having good boundaries, balancing being in a tunnel with bringing in influences from the outside, and cultivating a way of being in the world.* 55:33 🔄 *Rubin discusses how his preferences for living environments changed over time, highlighting the importance of being willing to update, adapt, and change in various aspects of life.* 56:16 🍏 *The conversation touches on the willingness to try new things, such as dietary choices like veganism, and the importance of being open-minded to experience and adapt based on results.* 57:35 🚧 *Rick Rubin notes that by the time he works with an artist, any resistance they had has usually been overcome, and they collaborate with the shared goal of creating the best possible outcome.* 58:28 💼 *Rubin mentions his approach to handling finances around his work with artists, expressing a desire to stay focused on the creative aspect rather than getting involved in financial matters.* 59:09 🎨 *The conversation shifts from business to art, highlighting the importance of focusing on creative endeavors rather than getting caught up in the business side of things.* 01:02:20 🎸 *Rubin discusses the concept of ideas having their own timing, and he works on multiple projects simultaneously, acknowledging the ebb and flow of creative energy.* 01:05:47 🌐 *Rubin reflects on the positive aspects of having all information accessible through the internet, including the ability to discover rare versions, B-sides, and lectures from the greatest thinkers.* 01:08:21 📱 *The discussion delves into the dual nature of smartphones and the internet as both tools for creativity and potential hindrances, emphasizing the importance of how one uses these tools.* 01:10:14 🌌 *Rick Rubin shares his perspective on dreams, mentioning that he has gone through phases of writing down dreams, finding value in dream journals for understanding the subconscious reflections of life experiences.* 01:10:28 🧠 *Rick Rubin emphasizes tapping into the unconscious and instinct for great ideas in the creative process.* 01:13:57 🎧 *Ad Rock encouraged Rick Rubin to give LL Cool J a chance, highlighting the importance of taking unconventional paths.* 01:14:25 🚀 *Rick's advice to starting comedians: "Be true to yourself and don't listen to anyone."* 01:28:03 💡 *Rick Rubin's innovative ad reads for his podcast started as a solution to a problem, turning ads into a podcast highlight.* 01:32:57 🌌 *Rick Rubin discusses two interesting psychedelic experiences: 5-MeO-DMT and ibogaine, highlighting their potential therapeutic benefits but also noting associated risks.* 01:35:12 🤔 *Tim Ferriss explores the intersection of creativity and organization with Rick Rubin, discussing how creative chaos in the initial stages can lead to more controlled and organized processes later.* 01:40:34 🎥 *The discussion shifts to the impact of shocking and intense experiences, with Rick Rubin expressing a preference for things that make him feel good rather than those that induce excitement or adrenaline.* 01:42:23 🌐 *Rick Rubin shares his skeptical view of news, likening it to wrestling, and discusses the challenges of discerning truth in today's media landscape.* 01:52:02 ⏰ *Rick Rubin details his daily routine, including a morning beach walk, focused work hours, and a winding down process in the evening that involves avoiding stimulating activities and transitioning to a red light environment for better sleep.* 01:56:54 🧠 *Rick Rubin discusses the impact of cheap blue light photons on health, connecting it to obesity and mental health issues.* 01:59:00 🎓 *Rick Rubin shares his views on formal education, suggesting that real-world experiences, internships, and mentorships may be more valuable.* 02:01:04 🏡 *Rick Rubin emphasizes the importance of keeping work as the most stressful part of life, making home a safe place for creativity and expression.* 02:04:19 📚 *Rick Rubin recommends the book "Wherever You Go, There You Are" for meditation, highlighting its impact on him during a challenging time in his life.* 02:05:56 🎶 *Rick Rubin explores the idea of whether genetic or epigenetic factors influence artists in channeling the experiences of their ancestors into their work.* 02:08:00 🔊 *Rick Rubin shares his approach to listening to music, focusing on the feeling and intention in the performance rather than technical aspects.* 02:15:30 🎬 *Rick Rubin mentions working on documentary projects and upcoming albums, including projects with Marcus King and the band Gossip.* 02:16:45 🎙️ *Rick Rubin discusses his unique approach to podcasting, emphasizing an intimate and casual conversation style that evolved naturally.* 02:18:53 🎥 *Rick Rubin reflects on the podcasting experience, describing it as an intimate, overheard conversation with a personal touch.* 02:21:08 🎙️ *Effective podcasts like Lex's, Rogan's, and Tim Ferris's reflect the host's love and passion for genuine conversations.* 02:22:07 🎤 *Creating a successful podcast involves having conversations about topics you truly love and are passionate about.* 02:22:51 🏋️ *Cameron Haynes' podcast is effective because he combines his love for lifting, running, shooting, and teaching, creating a genuine and enjoyable experience.* 02:23:18 🤔 *Overthinking about how a podcast will land can hinder its authenticity and success; focus on genuine conversations about topics you love.* 02:23:32 🎭 *Deep, meaningful conversations during podcasts can lead to unexpected connections and friendships, as seen with Rick Rubin and Daniel Kuuya.* 02:24:12 🙏 *Rick Rubin is thanked for providing valuable insights into the creative process, impacting how people approach and lean into their day.* 02:25:09 📚 *Rick Rubin's role as an educator is acknowledged, with recognition of the significant impact his wisdom has on inspiring creative works.* 02:25:50 📘 *The podcast recommends checking out Rick Rubin's book, "The Creative Act: A Way of Being," for further insights into the creative process.* Made with HARPA AI
Suggestion. The key takeaways are really good, but the emoji make it a pain to copy onto a note app or document. It´d be great see these without the emoji.
I was one of the comments that said you spoke more, this was my first time listening to your podcast and I was only there for rick rubin but I was wrong and I never thought that you will even read it, incredible stuff! definetly one of my favourite youtube channels I am so glad I found it
I can only assume that this has been a thing others have felt. But for me I have been a fan of Rick's for as long as I have loved music. Even before I was aware of his name. So that now I listen to nearly everything his name is attached to. The point I'm getting at is. In his interviews his voice has this hummm quality to it. That is so soothing and calming to me. I relaxes me so much I could listen to him talk for hours. I can imagine his kid or kids enjoy the hell out of some bed time stories read by him.
Any thought about the outcome before making something, undermines the whole thing. As someone who wants to be published and sell well, i feel like i needed to hear this. I'm always looking to make my stories more appealing to the reader rather than just doing the writing. It is always difficult to think about these things after the work gets done but, I'm intent on making it happen
I so dislike deadlines. I can’t put my creativity on the clock. I usually say no or maybe to a design project, and then two days later I have all kinds of ideas about it. That’s when I commit to it.
There was so much wisdom in this episode. I especially appreciate what he said about the importance of authenticity & trust in relationships, and how he tied that back to the concept of lying in your diary. I think that's such a crucial comparison that he made...if you are lying to yourself (i.e., showing up inauthetnically) then it erodes your ability trust yourself, and if you can't trust yourself you will struggle to trust others...and as was stated, without trust you have no relationship; so much of it comes down to the relationship with have with ourself. I'm so glad I watched this one- saving it to watch again in the future.
I personally love the sound of your voice, so you'll never hear me criticizing you for speaking too much; but you are very gracious about accommodating the requests of your listeners. Very much looking forward to listening to this one :)
Thank you for this enlightening discussion. Rick's raw honesty was truly impactful. Dr. Huberman, your compassion and dedication are deeply appreciated. Thank you for the significant work you do 🫶
It's awesome that a Stanford professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology has Rick Rubin on his podcast. As one who believes that all aspects of health - and life, really - are connected, it's really cool to hear discussions on creativity on this kind of podcast. I've heard one of my favorite producers, Pharrell Williams, say that when he produces music, he sees it as colors. I'd be interested in a Huberman perspective on this type of experience. Oh, and for the record, I never imagined that I would be cool with listening to hours-long podcast episodes before I came across Huberman Lab several months back, but they're great for car rides and dishwashing. Even if I don't finish them, I typically will do so across 2-3 days. Great podcast, Dr. Huberman.
Dr Huberman, there is clearly an evolution at play in your podcast journey and matters you are opening up to. This one was the clearest indication yet. Keep it up. And keep pushing boundaries, including that of science, as we understand it to be today.
Cohérence breath is the optimum cadence for trauma relief as well. Perhaps for those who can’t tread water one can do ‘shaking’ to music in place? I do and it works.🪃 Good stuff Rick and Andrew. I’m a fan of both.
Best podcast yet! Rick Rubin is my mirror! I’ve never felt so acknowledged in my thought processes. Thank you for organising this! I love you! Keep up the good work
I’ve been enjoying seeing Dr. Huberman gravitating toward arts and creativity lately.
Same. and spirituality.
I agree.
I so happy my wife introduced me to this it is life changing
youre so right, hes resonated with a lot of creatives, seems like hes learned so much from his previous guests
I liked his podcast before, but these new topics make me LOVE the podcast. It’s been so interesting lately.
I love how Rick mentions how he's so protective of his hermit lifestyle and who he lets in, who he spends time with and how he manages his life.
My home is my sanctuary and I'm protective of who enters it as well as what happens in it and I'm protective of what I put my efforts towards in my outside life as well. I don't find much value in things that seem meaningful today - social media, beauty, etc.
A lot of people, including my family think there's something wrong with me because I don't follow societal norms but it's how I find peace and knowing that Rick Rubin does some of these same things makes me feel better about myself.
I feel that. So much. I was like this even as a child and didn’t know it was what i was doing at the time, protecting my inner world and environment. Now i know but people will make you seem too intense or taking things to seriously… I think it’s more so moving through life intentionally and finding one’s purpose early.
@tammyb8742
Yea
I guess you can afford to do that after screwing artists out of their publishing.
Dudes full of shit
Him
Hustle Simmons and Liar Cohen
@tammyb8742
Yea
I guess you can afford to do that after screwing artists out of their publishing.
Dudes full of shit
Him
Hustle Simmons and Liar Cohen
He’s extremely rich. Good luck following that path with no coin fools
2 scammers conversing…
To everyone reading this, I sincerely pray for that whatever is causing you pain or stress will pass. May your negative thoughts, excessive worries and doubts disappear, replaced by clarity and understanding. May your life be filled with peace, tranquility and love
2:13:13 One of the things I like about listening to music in English (or other languages) as a non-native speaker is that I get to disassociate from the lyrics and just feel the music. Then, once I read the lyrics, I get a second experience of listening to the song, now knowing what it's all about.
X2 hermano
@ a huevo
The Creatives
We're the odd balls, and we're the rejects,
We're the bastards on the outskirts of the
crowd.
We're the ones who feel alone
even when everyone else is around.
We live in our heads and speak from our
hearts.
Our deepest emotions are what we strive
to impart.
Melancholy is our dearest friend,
While our introspective tendencies will be
our end.
Some might paint, while others might sketch,
Some lay in bed at night,
Searching for the word that's next.
We're alchemists of ideas,
And gardeners of creation,
Carefully cultivating gardens of possibility
In the rich soil of imagination.
We're intuitively perceptive and deeply
empathic,
We view the world through a different
aesthetic.
Our souls' long for the home that our
hearts beat for,
Because we've never found peace at any door.
We're the dream-weavers and
thought-sculptors,
Meticulously crafting our art,
Like that of a spider who slowly
constructs its part.
As every thread builds, the layers grow
deeper,
Every thought connects, displaying the
beauty in its features.
We are the creatives, the one-of-a-kinds.
We show the world the beauty we see,
Hidden in the sublime.
Inspiration came from this Rick Rubin quote
"A lot of people who are artists don't
understand it themselves. Especially the young
ones. They feel different, but they don't know
what it is. They feel more. Everything hurts.
Everything. They're super sensitive. They see
things that other people don't see."
-Rick Rubin
Incredible
This should get pinned. Its pretty well written.
Beautiful
This resonates with me on a very deep level. Thanks.
Gayyyyyyyyy
I absolutely love the fact that Huberman writes in all caps and switches to cursive as his writing speed increases. I am the same way, and it floors me to know I have this commonality with this man whose podcast has completely changed my life and outlook for the better. Dr. Huberman, you and Rick Rubin are two of my favorite people on this planet. You both have influenced my thought processes and habits in a positive manner, and I am sincerely grateful for either of you and your work.
I do this too. What's it about?
Larger than life creativity wave. Like an energy power surge lol...my thoughts🙏
Saying that your art is like a journal entry was eye-opening.
same, lit up a light bulb inside me
It's Wild how people still doubt Rick's projects! Absolutely mind blowing! True OG
Your humility and graciousness are heart warming, Dr. Huberman; your impressive qualities stand out, especially because they are seemingly unusual in this country.
Hahahahha😂
i dont know why but the way that Rick Rubin talks just calms me down , he has this source of serenity
Huberman mentioned that feeling of abandonment when trying to work. I can relate, but I thought I was alone in that. It’s interesting how the work of creation so frequently feels like an incredibly lonely process. I couldn’t bear it when I was younger, but it’s easier to push through now - I think because I’m more emotionally “fed” by good relationships than I was when I was younger.
I’m 22 and I feel that same now. I’ve been putting off creating music because I feel so alone doing it. If I get anything from this podcast and your comment, it’s to use that feeling as a form of creativity.
I'm also 22, most of the time I'll favour relationship-building over working on an extra project, just to avoid the feeling that maybe i don't give enough time to people.
What about finding others to create with - not necessarily collaborating, but having someone else in the room to create with independently? FWIW, that's what Rick does and I think you'll find it to be where your best "work" comes out. Works for me.
Some people like both . Alone work is equally important as team work. Collaborative work is something you need to do but independent work let's you know what you bring to the table and where others fill your gaps
He did not say Goozefraba
"We are vehicles for this information..." A Romantic period idea. THE Romantic period idea. Its essence. Thank you for reminding me of this, Mr. Rubin.
2:20:22- I feel that a lot of people are so afraid to be truly authentic out of fear of being cancelled, rejected, shamed, or told not to be this or that and the results are either isolation or acting like a version of themselves that is exhausting to keep up. If only we all had a friend like Rick who gives people the space to just be themselves and to know it's okay. I could listen to Rick forever.
The censorship and suppression is itself a sign of a fear of whatever 'authority' (pretended) the corporations are seemingly afraid, which doesn't actually exist. They're inventing this, I believe, to maintain the status quo, but the inevitability of humanity's evolvement will break whatever 'mold' or structure they've projecting into the world. All is energy, thoughts carry energy, so society will for a time maintain a jelly-like consistency of anti-humanism which must go the way of useless things. Whatever we project out into our world has tremendous power, far more powerful than their ideologies and intimidation tactics. This is why they have to spray us with chemicals, pollute our water (fluoride), land, air. Suppression of consciousness.
Rick Rubin is spot on, from the act of honest creativity processes, life style boundaries, mental/physical health exercises , to the film Melancholia. What a listening pleasure! Thank you. Happy New Year!!
Thank you Rick for using my Coherence Breathing Exercise at the start of this video! Breathe well, Mike
Love it Mike! Huberman should get you on to talk about BREATHWORK! Nobody knows the ins and outs (especially the science) like you!
I second this! Would love to see Huberman interview you! Great knowledge about breathwork.
Mike you should get Huberman on your show!!! Andrew check our TAKE A DEEP BREATH😊
Mike, your devotion to breath and its value is obvious and yr online contribution to the practices of breath serve many many people, but to claim that any breathing technique is yrs is surely wrong. The first yogis knew the origins, range, and applications of breath before recorded history. The breathing practice is bigger than you or me or any person. Thank you for yr passion and devotions to this neglected source of life.
I’ve been musing about getting back into writing for a while now. Whilst listening to this podcast I suddenly remembered the name of my writing blog that I had created when I was 20 years old. I found the site and tonnes of poetry I had written 10 years ago, ones I thought I lost forever. A lot of it makes me cringe but a few I treasure. Somehow I know I owe you, Andrew, and Rick, a very deep thank you.
Hooray that you found your blog and that your poetry was still there! I remembered my old blog because of the name, and found old and outdated posts, art I had forgotten I made, and you know what? It made me feel good too, like finding a treasure of my creative expression. Kudos to you, and I’m glad you commented about it.
Merry Christmas and thank you for this stimulating conversation so far. I'm consistently impressed by Dr Huberman's emotional vulnerability that is both relatable and instructive.
And not Inscrutable 😊😊😊 💎
Hear, hear!
Well-said. Humility
Greetings from Paris, France. Thank you to you both for this marvelous gift of time and energy. I started TM in 1974 to ease the anxiety of feeling untethered and out on a limb alone with my creative work. I am 71, still meditating and creating by managing to be in the moment making the beautiful thing. Bonne Année!
It's always rejuvenating to listen to someone who understands creativity so deeply. I was reminded of this quote that struck me while listening to Carl Sagan's "Pale Blue Dot" yesterday: "Galileo taught that we can interrogate nature by observation and experiment. Then, "facts which at first sight seem improbable will, even on scant explanation, drop the cloak which had hidden them and stand forth in naked and simple beauty."
Rick is my favorite person to listen too he speaks so calmly and he provides us with great insights into creating great works of art.
I could listen to 10 more hours of this 🥲 more conversations between the two of you please. And how wholesome is it that you guys are friends irl. Andrew you have the best energy and come across as such a good soul xx thank you for making these
Loved this discussion, thank you for this content! There were many concepts that I deeply resonated with:
1. "everything I make is a diary entry" - yes! This is how I tend to approach my creative expression and when I try to look at it thinking about the end outcome, my work is just not as authentic or thought-provoking
2. Highly sensitive people have a deep desire to nurture their internal life/ internal world
3. "We don't make these things [art/work] for an outcome. It's not the mindset to make something great"
4. It's important to have good boundaries but also be able to receive ideas - it's like being a selective, semi-permeable membrane - this balance is something that I find challenging
5. Care less about what other people think - goes back to the diary entry approach especially when it comes to self-expression and how you are living your life
Andrew Huberman and Rick Rubin episode is the best Christmas present of all, Merry Christmas 🎁
I hope this reaches you Andrew. Your authenticity and parts of you that you share are the true guts and content that you produce. Seeing your mindfulness and hesitation to speak because of comments of speaking too much hurts to see, the connection the two of you share surpasses this at times, but the reason i hope this reaches you is because i want to say that your voice and questions and self doubts speak to me, and i come back again and again to hear you speak to amazing people. I only hope to see your comfort in putting yourself fully into the interactions without that limiter. Thank you for the amazing episode!
This is a gem.
29:26: Diary Entry Method
You've all you need in your head right at this very moment, podcasts are helpful but watching two dudes have a conversation will only get you so far. ❤
This was an awesome Christmas gift. Appreciate the work and legacy you both have offered the world bravely through your art. Mahalo to you both!
As a musician, I often feel guilty about how often I choose to listen to podcasts over music. It’s incredibly validating to hear Rick frequently reference listening to podcasts throughout his day
This episode truly is a gift. Thank you both!
But it was uploaded an hour ago and it’s 2hrs + long ?
@@moshemedalie7690 i listened to it on 2x speed and got through a good portion of the interview before posting my comment
@@KL-ni9ju lmao it was such a gift that you had to speed it up to a completely obnoxious pace in order to get through it i guess
it was such a gift to listen to these great minds commune that you immediately mined it for any relevant data with great efficiency
I agree with Rick. You do it in a way that it's clear that you not only care, but you are so excited to have these gifts to share. Your passion is changing lives. I have struggled with being defeated by certain kinds of friction my whole life, and you gave me a whole new reason to try again. You hooked me with the promise of more dopamine. You could have said, "you have to fake it til you make it," and it would have been just as true, but the science convinced me, and it has changed my life. This is a gift, doctor. What could be more powerful? You just gave someone else a superpower. You are a power multiplier in the world.
0:20: 🎶 Rick Rubin, a renowned music producer, answers questions about the creative process in his book 'The Creative Act: A Way of Being' on the Huberman Lab podcast.
11:06: 🎧 The conversation covers topics such as endurance, podcasts, and meditation during a visit.
22:23: 🏋️♂️ The video discusses the speaker's approach to health and wellness, including natural living and weight loss.
34:21: 🕒 Deadlines are helpful at the end of a creative process, but not at the beginning.
45:33: 🤔 The speaker is hooked on a particular topic and finds it frustrating and exciting at the same time, comparing it to real life situations.
57:23: 🎶 The video discusses the dynamics of working with artists and handling finances in the music industry.
1:08:07: 📱 The video discusses the dual nature of smartphones as tools for creativity and as distractions.
1:19:25: 🎤 The video discusses the challenges of the entertainment industry and how to maintain creativity and love for the work.
1:30:34: 🚫 The speaker discusses their resistance to peer pressure and substance use, attributing it to being an only child.
1:42:13: 🤔 The speaker expresses uncertainty and skepticism about where to get reliable information and how to trust the news.
1:54:11: 🔴 The video discusses the benefits of limiting bright artificial light exposure in the evening and the use of red lens glasses and red screen on phones.
2:05:45: 🧬 The video discusses the possibility of genetic and epigenetic influences on creativity and music creation, but acknowledges that it remains a mysterious and unverifiable phenomenon.
2:17:51: 🎙️ The podcast focuses on intimate and personal interviews, driven by the interviewer's own interests.
Recap by Tammy AI
Pro ❤❤
AI huh? ❤
Rubin always looks and sounds like he just woke up and I like that so much! I love his voice and how calm he is. Much love!!
Going into the "chaos" zone takes a lot of courage and confidence, because it includes knowing that at a certain point, we have to go back to the "normal"zone, aka boring life 😐. It's true. It's not for every one. It take skills to be able to navigate between both
I'm so happy people like Rick Rubin walk this planet with us. ✨🥰✨
Wow- Perfect timing. I am experiencing a wonderful shift in my life and this entire interview is such a gift to me- both as a health and wellness professional and creative spirit. Merry Christmas, happy holidays. Keep up the great work!
Rick you are the best. Honestly, Rick you are the producer of my upcoming album and you don’t even know that .. Forever grateful ❤️
Yes! Loved the first podcast of these 2 and now another one dropped...merry Christmas everyone!
Loved spending time with you two, what a gift. I must say one of my favorite things about Rick is his rapid and genuine chuckling to humor, or things that affect him as humorous. I've seen him in many interviews, and he is mostly pretty serious, so the way he quickly surrenders without reservation so deeply and completely to funny things makes me giggle along with him every time. It feels like it's coming from his soul so spontaneously, and I love that so much! He literally sparkles, to me. Thank you both for the stupendous work you do and for holding your energy footprint on the planet -- invaluable.
Love this episode and the kindness and listening each person gives to each other. Much love Andrew and Rick!!!
6:45 his breathing exercise
-for HRV
when 9:25
9:50 treading water
12:00 TM
how it helped 13:50
32:20 if don’t have idea
🔥
no words to thank you for this episode. What a high level conversation, so deep in every single topic.Thank you❤
Please continue to bring Rick on. Both of you enhance conversation in such a mystical and applicable way.
truly, we are blessed to have these two in our lives.
Everything we make can be a personal reflection of who we are in that moment of time. Most blocks are either self judgment or fear of outside judgement. I’m making this thing for me and I want to do it to the best of my abilities and it feels good to me and it’s honest to where I’m at. And if you’re living in a world where you are just being honest with where you’re at there’s nothing blocking that. The rest is just stories we make up about why we can’t do it. Thank you Rick Rubin for your wisdom!
1:08:08 I am interested in the link to the Bible interpretations that Andrew mentioned and love if it were added to the notes. 🙏🏻
I am so grateful for Andrew, Rick and the team who invested the time, energy and love to create this profound podcast. Thank you all!
I'm interested as well. If you find out please tag me in a comment.
I have been doing TM for 50 years Rick and I am a teacher Great meditation for sure and I also add Kria Breathing
Keep up the great work, Andrew and Rick.
You too Curt!
Love your work as well Curt
Rick is amazing! And Andrew! This is one of my favourite podcast episodes ever! (I listen to a lot of podcast) Thank you both 🙏🏼 💙
Imagine having a conversation with these two legends
Imagine having them in your corner 🤯🤯
I would just ask questions and listen
Andrew, GOD BLESS YOU, dear sir! Keep doing this good work in the world. 🙏🏻
Thank you for the Christmas gift!
7:19 I did it and it’s so effective!
Went from 28ms before to 91ms after the breathing.
And before sleep went from below 30ms to over 40ms on the first night.
Thank you
¡Hola Profe!Such a generous gift of conversation with Rick Rubin You gave us !I am truly grateful to You for all the hard work You are doing.
I love how in the beginning you can really notice a massive difference in Hubermans energy and intensity coming into the interview immediately after the breathing exercise! So cool!
What an environment you two create!!! I think I was smiling almost the whole time listening. So lifting and peaceful☆
As a creative painter i want to thank you so much to help me through my doubts and anxiety as making me feel i am not alone with all those feelings and that there is a solution...an inner training...thank you so much for your generosity in sharing your thoughts....
This is wild. I just finished your other interview with Rick and lo and behold this one popped up. This is like five hours worth of content in a single session. Feels like school. Lol. But the fact that this happened, I dont want to read too much into it but I think the universe is trying to tell me something lol. Anyways awesome stuff. Thanks. And big fan since day 1. Cant believe its been this long.
I just bought Rick’s book this weekend and now Dr. Huberman gives us this gift too. Lets enjoy bro 🙏🏼
Mind blown, right? I'm darn near salivating this is so tasty and it's been a long time coming. You are lucky getting Back to Back Rubin❤
Hey Andrew, just wanted to say I really enjoy and appreciate your podcasts, you're super knowledgable yet so humble and you seem to truly care about educating people. Thanks for your work.
Merry Christmas, Hubs. Gonna have to come back and listen later
I have listened to this 2 or three times now and absolutely love it. Rick Rubin is so interesting and wise ! I'm a painter and some of the things Rick says here really resonate . So much to take in here !
Huberman, dude, metta is incredible. Way better than mindfulness meditation. But it's more than just phrases! Just repeating the phrases is basically the same as TM. Litmus test: if you're not smiling at some point during metta meditation, then you're not doing it right. The meditators who have done it long term start smiling when they've done it - you can read that in Richard Davidson's work, 'as soon as they started meditating in the MRI machine, a slight smile came on their face'. If you're curious what metta feels like, just think about how you feel when you have a genuine non-forced smile.
Andrew I've seen every single interview that Rick Rubin has done about the book. Making my way deliberately through the book now, it's dense so I'm taking my time! This was such a different interview than the others. Really appreciate your deep dive on these topics and also the consideration for your listeners/viewers - it's WILD the stack of comments you have in front of you! SO MUCH CARE - THANK YOUUU!!!
Absolutely amazing interview with a beautiful mind and soul. Everything discussed in this and the last interview with RR really pushed me forward on writing. It’s such a difficult moment, that instant you seem to lose all ideas and then motivation due to writer’s block or lack of inspiration. But the ‘diary’ idea is one heck of a way to view the process. And just like Rick said, don’t worry about the reaction, award or failure until after whatever is being worked on is done. Really needed to hear all of that. 💯✊❤
Man, I never heard someone describe wrestling that made sense as to why I've learned to like it again as I've gotten older. I've always been enthralled by Rick, but hueberman and his relationship shines here, and this conversation is raw beautiful. I am blessed to listen to this. Thanks guys
Rubins and goggins in same week is podcast gold
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🧘 *Meditar regularmente faz parte da vida de Rick Rubin há quase 45 anos, e os benefícios se acumulam ao longo do tempo, ajudando a mudar a forma como ele reage no mundo real.*
07:07 🌅 *Praticar a respiração coerente (coherence breathing) com seis respirações por minuto aumenta a variabilidade da frequência cardíaca e pode melhorar a saúde mental.*
12:13 🧘 *Transcendental Meditation (TM) é a prática de meditação de escolha de Rick Rubin, mas ele também incorpora técnicas de respiração e práticas de gratidão/meta em sua rotina.*
15:09 ☀️ *A exposição regular à luz solar, especialmente na manhã e no final da tarde, é importante para a regulação do ritmo circadiano e pode afetar positivamente o sono e o estado de alerta durante o dia.*
20:07 🎧 *Rick optou por usar fones de ouvido com fio em vez de Bluetooth devido a preocupações com a saúde, incluindo emfs (campos eletromagnéticos) e problemas de saúde relacionados, como cistos. Ele também mencionou a utilização de fones de ouvido com tubos de ar para evitar a exposição elétrica.*
22:12 🎙️ *Rick Rubin compartilha sua abordagem natural para saúde e bem-estar, incluindo a preferência por alimentos não processados e carne de qualidade.*
23:20 🥦 *Ele perdeu 135 lbs através de uma dieta rica em proteínas, baixa em calorias e carboidratos, sugerida por um médico da UCLA.*
25:40 🧠 *Rick discute sua visão sobre a inteligência artificial na criação artística, destacando a importância da perspectiva humana na arte.*
29:33 🎨 *Ele aborda bloqueios criativos, sugerindo que entender a causa subjacente, como autocrítica ou medo de julgamento, é essencial para superá-los.*
38:27 🎭 *Rick compartilha sua sensibilidade e a ideia de que muitos artistas usam drogas para lidar com emoções avassaladoras e sensibilidade extrema.*
41:51 💥 *Ele descreve sua paixão pelo wrestling como uma forma de teatro visceral que reflete a ambiguidade da realidade e da narrativa.*
44:20 🤼♂️ *Rick discute a atração humana pelo wrestling e sua mistura de violência aparente com proteção mútua, destacando a natureza primitiva e evoluída da nossa apreciação por ele.*
45:56 🌟 *Rick Rubin acredita que o valor de um projeto está na criação, não no resultado final. Ficar obcecado com o resultado pode prejudicar a arte.*
49:03 🧠 *A definição de "vale a pena" é dependente de um resultado, mas Rick sugere que o verdadeiro valor está em criar sem pensar no resultado. Preocupar-se com o resultado pode minar o processo criativo.*
52:04 🌟 *Tocar profundamente em si mesmo e estar conectado com algo mais profundo é fundamental para a criação autêntica e impactante, independentemente do campo.*
54:22 🧠 *Ter bons limites entre o eu e o mundo exterior, juntamente com uma mente aberta e uma disposição para a surpresa, é crucial para um processo criativo saudável.*
56:01 🎯 *Rick Rubin está disposto a adaptar, atualizar e mudar quando necessário, seja na nutrição, na cidade onde vive ou em suas crenças, mostrando uma abordagem científica para a vida.*
59:09 🎧 *Ter acesso ilimitado à música via internet é uma bênção, mas às vezes a curadoria de outras pessoas pode ser mais gratificante do que escolher cada música individualmente.*
01:03:13 📚 *Rick Rubin vê o acesso à informação na internet como uma ferramenta valiosa, mas também reconhece o desafio de ordenar e priorizar essa vasta quantidade de informações.*
01:06:27 💎 *A internet, especialmente o RUclips, permite o acesso a tesouros inesperados, como versões raras de músicas e vídeos antigos, enriquecendo a experiência criativa.*
01:08:35 💭 *Rick Rubin já escreveu seus sonhos em fases da vida, mas não o faz atualmente. Ele vê valor nas interpretações dos sonhos, mas sua abordagem pode variar ao longo do tempo.*
01:08:48 📚 *Manter um diário de sonhos pode revelar padrões e clareza sobre o que está acontecendo no seu subconsciente ao longo do tempo.*
01:09:32 🧠 *O subconsciente é como um supercomputador da mente humana, controlando nossos sonhos e tentando nos ensinar de maneiras que correspondem à nossa forma de aprendizado preferida.*
01:10:28 🎭 *O instinto e o subconsciente são fontes de ideias poderosas, enquanto as ideias originadas da mente intelectual tendem a ser menos impactantes.*
01:20:07 🎙️ *Focar no trabalho em vez de preocupar-se com a indústria do entretenimento pode ajudar a manter a criatividade e paixão pelo trabalho.*
01:21:42 💰 *A abordagem minimalista de fazer as coisas com os recursos disponíveis muitas vezes resulta em soluções mais criativas e autênticas do que gastar dinheiro excessivo.*
01:28:18 📣 *Solucionar problemas criativos pode resultar em inovações não planejadas, tornando um aspecto anteriormente desafiador em uma característica marcante do projeto.*
01:31:07 🚫 *Rick Rubin resistiu à pressão do álcool e das drogas, mantendo-se fiel a sua visão criativa, mesmo quando estava imerso na cena musical onde essas substâncias eram comuns.*
01:31:48 🧠 *Marcelo expressou seu desinteresse por álcool desde a adolescência, possivelmente devido a ser filho único e confiante em sua identidade.*
01:32:42 🌿 *Marcelo demonstrou curiosidade em relação a psicodélicos, especialmente o ibogaína e o macródoci bina, reconhecendo seus riscos e aplicações terapêuticas.*
01:35:12 🤔 *Marcelo abordou a relação entre criatividade e organização, destacando que a criatividade inicial pode ser caótica, mas a organização se torna mais importante posteriormente.*
01:36:20 🎨 *Rick Rubin mencionou a importância de manter um estado mental aberto e infantil para a criatividade.*
01:43:19 📰 *Rick Rubin compartilhou sua desconfiança em relação às notícias e como histórias imprecisas ou falsas sobre ele são comuns, levando à dúvida sobre a veracidade das notícias em geral.*
01:54:11 💡 *A rotina de Marcelo inclui evitar exposição à luz artificial brilhante à noite, usando óculos com lentes vermelhas e limitando atividades estimulantes, o que contribui para um sono de qualidade.*
01:54:53 📽️ *Música e vídeos: Rick Rubin fala sobre música e vídeos, destacando que as interpretações abertas das letras permitem que os ouvintes participem, enquanto os vídeos podem limitar a imaginação do espectador.*
01:59:30 📚 *Educação Formal: Rick Rubin considera a educação formal obsoleta e acredita que o mundo real, mentorias e estágios são muitas vezes uma maneira melhor de aprender.*
02:01:28 💑 *Relações: Rick Rubin enfatiza a importância de relacionamentos saudáveis, onde o trabalho é a parte mais estressante da vida, enquanto a casa é o refúgio seguro.*
02:06:07 🎶 *Influência Ancestral: Rick pondera se a criação artística pode transmitir traços genéticos ou heranças familiares ao longo de gerações, mas acredita que é um mistério sem resposta definitiva.*
02:16:45 🎙️ *Podcasting: Rick Rubin menciona que seu estilo de podcasting é mais íntimo e pessoal, baseado em suas próprias perguntas e interesses, sem pensar muito na audiência, diferenciando-se de outros formatos mais voltados para o público.*
02:18:39 🎙️ *Rick Rubin destaca a intimidade e autenticidade das conversas em podcasts, onde os participantes se envolvem em diálogos genuínos, sem a pressão do desempenho.*
02:21:08 📚 *A importância de compartilhar experiências pessoais e autênticas em podcasts, permitindo conexões verdadeiras e amizades genuínas.*
02:22:07 🎙️ *Criar um podcast de sucesso envolve ter conversas sobre temas que você realmente ama e é apaixonado, refletindo sua paixão e entusiasmo.*
02:25:23 📚 *Reconhecimento de Rick Rubin como um educador que compartilha sabedoria e experiência, impactando positivamente a criatividade e aprendizado de outras pessoas.*
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Rick Rubin is a gift to the world, and this is the best Christmas gift we could hope for. Thank you!
To top it off he literally could play Santa Claus in a Hallmark movie
Rick is a gem in every way! Been loving both his podcasts for a few years and Tetragamatin is so great. And his path to health with a keto carnivore lifestyle is the best thing we've also done. You never look back once you are metabolically fit. Go Rick!
The first thumbnail I've seen with color. Now that's creative!
Thanks guys. Two absolutely lovely and informative guys.
Fascinating discussion! Rubin’s perspective on being open to unconventional methods and attentive to the world for creative insights is inspiring. This discussion illustrates how staying curious and receptive to the world can fuel both health and creativity. I find it inspiring ✨ Thank you!
Next week I will be going on a trip to Hawaii with my aunt. Her and I have many conversations on our challenges navigating life, being highly sensitive and how to work on our creative projects. This is really going to inform our conversation. Thank you. It's refreshing to listen to you 2 beautiful people xox
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06:25 🧘 *Rick Rubin discusses a coherence breathing exercise for heart rate variability, which he practices at least once a day for 10-20 minutes.*
11:59 🧘 *Rick Rubin mentions that Transcendental Meditation (TM) was the first meditation he learned at the age of 14 and has been a part of his life for 45 years.*
13:46 🧘 *Meditation, particularly TM, has become integral to Rick Rubin's life, and while practicing it amplifies the benefits, the cumulative effect is always present, acting as a foundation for how he engages with the world.*
21:59 💪 *Both Rick Rubin and the host discuss the evolution of health and wellness practices over the years, acknowledging the slow mainstream acceptance of practices like weightlifting, yoga, and breathwork. They emphasize the value of natural living and minimal product usage.*
23:47 🍽️ *Different diets work for different people, and healthy red meat can be beneficial.*
25:11 🎨 *Rick Rubin is unsure about AI's ability to shape art as it lacks a personal point of view.*
26:20 📚 *Rick Rubin enjoyed reading, playing guitar, and magic (card tricks, sleight of hand) as a child.*
28:37 🧠 *Many questions revolved around overcoming creative blocks; Rubin emphasizes focusing on personal expression.*
31:45 🚀 *Rubin suggests viewing creative work as a personal diary entry to eliminate self-judgment and external expectations.*
34:33 ⏰ *Deadlines help Rubin at the end of the creative process, but not at the beginning.*
37:28 🎭 *Rick Rubin discusses the challenges and sensitivity of artists, using substances to numb intense feelings.*
39:33 🤐 *Rubin lives a protected, monk-like life, controlling stimuli to protect his inner life.*
42:56 💪 *Wrestling relaxes Rubin, as it provides intense entertainment without real stakes, akin to theater.*
44:48 🤼 *Wrestling, like real life, blurs the lines between truth and fiction, representing the uncertainty of the world.*
47:23 🎤 *Johnny Cash was a soulful, knowledgeable, and humble man, and his strength as an artist lay in his ability to convey stories with incredible gravitas.*
49:03 🤔 *Rick Rubin emphasizes the importance of defining "worth it" in a creative journey and highlights the value of being comfortable with uncertainty and focusing on the process, not the outcome.*
50:11 🛑 *Rick warns against putting energy into outcomes that are beyond one's control, stating that thoughts about outcomes can undermine the creative process.*
52:18 🌌 *Rubin discusses the principles of creating art as a way of being, tapping into oneself, and creating a deep connection with the world, emphasizing openness, surprise, and holding beliefs loosely.*
53:25 🎨 *The artist's role is described as taking in various data points, both conscious and subconscious, and creating a constellation by tapping into oneself and being receptive to external influences.*
54:22 🌐 *Rick Rubin talks about the importance of having good boundaries, balancing being in a tunnel with bringing in influences from the outside, and cultivating a way of being in the world.*
55:33 🔄 *Rubin discusses how his preferences for living environments changed over time, highlighting the importance of being willing to update, adapt, and change in various aspects of life.*
56:16 🍏 *The conversation touches on the willingness to try new things, such as dietary choices like veganism, and the importance of being open-minded to experience and adapt based on results.*
57:35 🚧 *Rick Rubin notes that by the time he works with an artist, any resistance they had has usually been overcome, and they collaborate with the shared goal of creating the best possible outcome.*
58:28 💼 *Rubin mentions his approach to handling finances around his work with artists, expressing a desire to stay focused on the creative aspect rather than getting involved in financial matters.*
59:09 🎨 *The conversation shifts from business to art, highlighting the importance of focusing on creative endeavors rather than getting caught up in the business side of things.*
01:02:20 🎸 *Rubin discusses the concept of ideas having their own timing, and he works on multiple projects simultaneously, acknowledging the ebb and flow of creative energy.*
01:05:47 🌐 *Rubin reflects on the positive aspects of having all information accessible through the internet, including the ability to discover rare versions, B-sides, and lectures from the greatest thinkers.*
01:08:21 📱 *The discussion delves into the dual nature of smartphones and the internet as both tools for creativity and potential hindrances, emphasizing the importance of how one uses these tools.*
01:10:14 🌌 *Rick Rubin shares his perspective on dreams, mentioning that he has gone through phases of writing down dreams, finding value in dream journals for understanding the subconscious reflections of life experiences.*
01:10:28 🧠 *Rick Rubin emphasizes tapping into the unconscious and instinct for great ideas in the creative process.*
01:13:57 🎧 *Ad Rock encouraged Rick Rubin to give LL Cool J a chance, highlighting the importance of taking unconventional paths.*
01:14:25 🚀 *Rick's advice to starting comedians: "Be true to yourself and don't listen to anyone."*
01:28:03 💡 *Rick Rubin's innovative ad reads for his podcast started as a solution to a problem, turning ads into a podcast highlight.*
01:32:57 🌌 *Rick Rubin discusses two interesting psychedelic experiences: 5-MeO-DMT and ibogaine, highlighting their potential therapeutic benefits but also noting associated risks.*
01:35:12 🤔 *Tim Ferriss explores the intersection of creativity and organization with Rick Rubin, discussing how creative chaos in the initial stages can lead to more controlled and organized processes later.*
01:40:34 🎥 *The discussion shifts to the impact of shocking and intense experiences, with Rick Rubin expressing a preference for things that make him feel good rather than those that induce excitement or adrenaline.*
01:42:23 🌐 *Rick Rubin shares his skeptical view of news, likening it to wrestling, and discusses the challenges of discerning truth in today's media landscape.*
01:52:02 ⏰ *Rick Rubin details his daily routine, including a morning beach walk, focused work hours, and a winding down process in the evening that involves avoiding stimulating activities and transitioning to a red light environment for better sleep.*
01:56:54 🧠 *Rick Rubin discusses the impact of cheap blue light photons on health, connecting it to obesity and mental health issues.*
01:59:00 🎓 *Rick Rubin shares his views on formal education, suggesting that real-world experiences, internships, and mentorships may be more valuable.*
02:01:04 🏡 *Rick Rubin emphasizes the importance of keeping work as the most stressful part of life, making home a safe place for creativity and expression.*
02:04:19 📚 *Rick Rubin recommends the book "Wherever You Go, There You Are" for meditation, highlighting its impact on him during a challenging time in his life.*
02:05:56 🎶 *Rick Rubin explores the idea of whether genetic or epigenetic factors influence artists in channeling the experiences of their ancestors into their work.*
02:08:00 🔊 *Rick Rubin shares his approach to listening to music, focusing on the feeling and intention in the performance rather than technical aspects.*
02:15:30 🎬 *Rick Rubin mentions working on documentary projects and upcoming albums, including projects with Marcus King and the band Gossip.*
02:16:45 🎙️ *Rick Rubin discusses his unique approach to podcasting, emphasizing an intimate and casual conversation style that evolved naturally.*
02:18:53 🎥 *Rick Rubin reflects on the podcasting experience, describing it as an intimate, overheard conversation with a personal touch.*
02:21:08 🎙️ *Effective podcasts like Lex's, Rogan's, and Tim Ferris's reflect the host's love and passion for genuine conversations.*
02:22:07 🎤 *Creating a successful podcast involves having conversations about topics you truly love and are passionate about.*
02:22:51 🏋️ *Cameron Haynes' podcast is effective because he combines his love for lifting, running, shooting, and teaching, creating a genuine and enjoyable experience.*
02:23:18 🤔 *Overthinking about how a podcast will land can hinder its authenticity and success; focus on genuine conversations about topics you love.*
02:23:32 🎭 *Deep, meaningful conversations during podcasts can lead to unexpected connections and friendships, as seen with Rick Rubin and Daniel Kuuya.*
02:24:12 🙏 *Rick Rubin is thanked for providing valuable insights into the creative process, impacting how people approach and lean into their day.*
02:25:09 📚 *Rick Rubin's role as an educator is acknowledged, with recognition of the significant impact his wisdom has on inspiring creative works.*
02:25:50 📘 *The podcast recommends checking out Rick Rubin's book, "The Creative Act: A Way of Being," for further insights into the creative process.*
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Suggestion. The key takeaways are really good, but the emoji make it a pain to copy onto a note app or document. It´d be great see these without the emoji.
I was one of the comments that said you spoke more, this was my first time listening to your podcast and I was only there for rick rubin but I was wrong
and I never thought that you will even read it, incredible stuff! definetly one of my favourite youtube channels
I am so glad I found it
Merry Christmas. Thanks for the gift.
There are no words to convey how much of an unexpected gift this episode was. Thank you so much.
Thank you for the Christmas gift. Merry Christmas!!
I can only assume that this has been a thing others have felt. But for me I have been a fan of Rick's for as long as I have loved music. Even before I was aware of his name. So that now I listen to nearly everything his name is attached to. The point I'm getting at is. In his interviews his voice has this hummm quality to it. That is so soothing and calming to me. I relaxes me so much I could listen to him talk for hours. I can imagine his kid or kids enjoy the hell out of some bed time stories read by him.
Any thought about the outcome before making something, undermines the whole thing.
As someone who wants to be published and sell well, i feel like i needed to hear this. I'm always looking to make my stories more appealing to the reader rather than just doing the writing. It is always difficult to think about these things after the work gets done but, I'm intent on making it happen
I think in certain aspects of creativity like engineering there’s a balance you have to take
I so dislike deadlines. I can’t put my creativity on the clock. I usually say no or maybe to a design project, and then two days later I have all kinds of ideas about it. That’s when I commit to it.
There was so much wisdom in this episode. I especially appreciate what he said about the importance of authenticity & trust in relationships, and how he tied that back to the concept of lying in your diary. I think that's such a crucial comparison that he made...if you are lying to yourself (i.e., showing up inauthetnically) then it erodes your ability trust yourself, and if you can't trust yourself you will struggle to trust others...and as was stated, without trust you have no relationship; so much of it comes down to the relationship with have with ourself. I'm so glad I watched this one- saving it to watch again in the future.
I want to say thank you for this Christmas blessing Andrew. I really appreciate you doing this podcast❤
I personally love the sound of your voice, so you'll never hear me criticizing you for speaking too much; but you are very gracious about accommodating the requests of your listeners. Very much looking forward to listening to this one :)
Feliz Navidad; y Gracias 🙏 por la información 🤗
This came at the right time, the universe is indeed in control
Fantastic podcast! Thank you Andrew and Rick🫶🏾
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Thank you for this enlightening discussion. Rick's raw honesty was truly impactful. Dr. Huberman, your compassion and dedication are deeply appreciated. Thank you for the significant work you do 🫶
It's awesome that a Stanford professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology has Rick Rubin on his podcast. As one who believes that all aspects of health - and life, really - are connected, it's really cool to hear discussions on creativity on this kind of podcast.
I've heard one of my favorite producers, Pharrell Williams, say that when he produces music, he sees it as colors. I'd be interested in a Huberman perspective on this type of experience.
Oh, and for the record, I never imagined that I would be cool with listening to hours-long podcast episodes before I came across Huberman Lab several months back, but they're great for car rides and dishwashing. Even if I don't finish them, I typically will do so across 2-3 days. Great podcast, Dr. Huberman.
What Pharrell Williams’s is speaking about is synesthesia. What happens with that is more than one part of the brain is activated at the same time.
Love this episode. He’s one of my favorites!!! And you’re the best!
Awesome love fest Bros
Merry Christmas 💫
Don't create for others, create for yourself - this idea allowed me to compose my first original music piece. Thanks Rick!
Best possible Christmas gift 🙏
Dr Huberman, there is clearly an evolution at play in your podcast journey and matters you are opening up to. This one was the clearest indication yet. Keep it up. And keep pushing boundaries, including that of science, as we understand it to be today.
Merry Christmas Everyone!!!🎉🎉🎉
One of the best podcast I've heard in a year
Cohérence breath is the optimum cadence for trauma relief as well.
Perhaps for those who can’t tread water one can do ‘shaking’ to music in place?
I do and it works.🪃
Good stuff Rick and Andrew. I’m a fan of both.
Best podcast yet! Rick Rubin is my mirror! I’ve never felt so acknowledged in my thought processes.
Thank you for organising this!
I love you! Keep up the good work
two complete legends on a podcast on christmas day, could we ask for anything more?
This is grrrrreat! There are no blocks!! Thank you! ❤❤❤❤
The cool santa clause himself,the man behind so many hits, great podcast and wonderful insights.Merry christmas❤
Rick Rubin is a living legend and an inspiration for me ❤️