BMW M4 Rebuild: One Year As a Nürburgring Rental
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- You may remember the revisions we carried out last year to our BMW M4. How does the car look like underneath a year later?
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00:00 Intro and Plans
02:43 Changing DCT Gearbox Oil
04:21 Service Background
07:05 Wear&Tear Explained
17:20 Mapping plans
19:20 Outro 
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George sure knows his stuff. Love listening to these tech talks. The M4 has seen some serious action, only fair that it receives a full refresh. The Kubica lap alone was something to behold.
These type of episodes are some of my favorite trying to take over a lot of the maintenance myself in my car. The M2 one they did is one of my favorite.
He rented that car for the week.
George was impressed with how many parts he needed to replace after. lol
Previous owner of my M4 installed a Turner Motorsport skid plate under that oil cooler, and man it saved me from some serious damage
I love these workshop vids and it looks like your cameraman is back Misha!
This is something we filmed back when he was here, but I gave him the priority of editing the other videos first. The main of which will be published on the 26th (available in members section already).
@@mgcharoudin mmm, so I guess I should think about becoming a member then!
the cinematography on this is really high quality, way higher than I'd expect from your usual vlog style...
Absolutely loved that video. Really informative too.
Brilliant
Very cool video and love seeing the tech side of Apex! We need more of these videos - George really knows his stuff!
Love the b-roll illustrating what George is saying.
I love these videos, great insight into the beating a car takes when run on limit all its life. Also lots of info.
George is a cracking mechanic with endless knowledge, well explained, dream job from a fellow mechanic 👍👍👍
Awesome content, Misha!!
By far the best videos.
Excellent run down…thank you
Great video, thank you!
I love this generation M4 🔥
Preventief onderhoud, altijd goed.
This car is a blast. I can highly recommend this one as a customer returning every year to drive this one.
Great idea.......I´m loving those vids........
Nice to see some sensible servicing and keeping the costs real.
Awesome video.
very interesting vid thanks for sharing
Very informative video.
An "Apex Garage" sounds like a great idea! ~ Apex Tuning & Consulting Nordschleife, 1,000,000 km+ of Ring experience .
Great video
Misha, i appreciate everything you do and i hope i will meet you someday.
I drove this thing few weeks ago, it is a monster
More content like this please!
Cool video 👍🏻
Good video
Hallo Misha,
Very good Video 👌
VG ✌️
From my understanding the latest iStep updates to the F8x platform do sort out the mapping, it is worth getting all the modules changed. There is a huge discussion on it on bimmerpost and people have reported great results. It does exactly as you said, moves the torque curve up and makes it more linear (almost makes the car feel NA like in power delivery). It has improvements on Diff and Gearbox behaviour too. My F82 CP is going in for this soon.
Love this kind of videos. It would be great to see one where you talk us through suspension mods- kinematic kits, diff mounts and how it affects the handling, how alignment setup can influence the car behaviour etc.
BTW, what’s with the e36 racecar project? That would be also cool to compare its chassis with an ordinary e36.
Very interesting video! What's the most reliable rental you've had? Do you have to replace the engines on all of them?
Like Aircraft standards. Bravo. I will like to see my self in this dream team.
Love the workshop videos and hearing from George. Always great to hear the pickings of his mind. Some feedback for your editor: it looks overly yellow-orange and the video was pretty dark.
You guys seem like some cool ass dudes Love your content
15:35 it's true, just like black can absorb light (heat) it also means it can radiate heat the same way. The reason why some space parts are black is to radiate heat better. White can reflect alot but when hot it takes more time to lose it's heat. Not sure how much it will help. Can be as little as a few degrees but when pushing 300/400 degrees it might be a way to keep the brakes cooler ;)
Good video, love the technicals w George. Curious to hear his impression of N55 vs S55. By that token sounds like M2 is more appealing all around as a platform? Takes the same suspension with slightly lower weight? Or due to it fitting narrower tires prefer the F80/82?
Oh yes, this tech stuff is TASTY!!! Can't wait for more build videos.
Note for the editor: excessive contrast seems a little bit distracting, I also suggest to check your colour temperature looking at the skin tones, you don't want to make people looking like zombies ;) Loved smooth camera motion though, keep it up!
Hallo Misha nice update
Nice to see some real world figures/experiences from people who run stuff hard and not all the stuff many UK, US and Japanese tuning companies sell and claim you need to be fast.
good video
Gr8 Video to see the background of techs and the workshop routine! Just to clarify, I guess you guys are running a crank hub fix. Maybe a primary cat delete would be a good thing to do, just for durability and heat reasons, as well as drop in filters and air scoops, as the stock air boxes are already good to go :)
don't think it was mentioned in the video but what kw's are you changing too? what brake pads are you guys running? once again another great video, love the technical videos with george in, great work guys.
George is awesome
Love these interviews with George and getting the info on the cars and the issues that arise, what to look out for and how to handle them when tracking a car.
You can buy lenses on eBay 60 quid each for headlights , and mishimoto do a larger coooler with shield/guard underneath as I do
I love these type of videos, it’s great to here from REAL WORLD experience. I have an M2 Comp which as you know is basically the same platform, I did 18 UK Trackdays last year (about 10k miles), lots of mods (kinematics, suspension) but like you guys run stock power and brakes. Great to hear your feedback on brakes, I’ve had the same experience despite most people on forums saying they must be changed! Il be leaving them as is.
Ps are those rear lights non LCI!?
Girodisc rotors for the stock blue or 2NH brakes are a great upgrade. I'm far from fast, but they've made a noticeable difference still, in conjunction with proper pads.
As an M4 owner I'd be interested in more details about the dct service. Do you change the plastic pan every time? How/ How much do you overfill the box the first time before running the gears (how much time?) ?
He said in this video, that he changes plastic pan every second oil change.
Good shizzle boys
Awesome as usual! What are the normal annual running expenses, excluding accidents?
Morning MiSHA & George..
By Crikey you know your stuff George! Even I was surprised how much stress & strain a cars suspension takes under load in racing conditions.. (15Tons !! 😲)
If I was living in Nurburgring & you operated your own Garage I'd be a regular loyal customer & have my vehicle's serviced by you..👍🙂👍
Not long to go & th'Ring will be open for business again
Great ! definitely looking forward to seeing the new & improved Video productions
you have in store for us Misha
Love Ya Work bro 💕
Godbless ava G'day 🙂
id love to see a video about nurburgring setup for E9x. Im in process to change to new bushings. I didnt decide what. PU? Sherman is nice but too extreme etc. Id love to see you speak about what is best for E9x daily driver and nurburgring setup. :)
Could you show some tips regarding setting up suspension geometry?
In the biginning I was worried the intercooler wanted to be painted black :D Because that's actually worse heat dissipation wise. :)
Yeah boii
Misha, where do u do wheel alignment?
Interesting to see the maintenance side of things. Thanks for sharing.
I would love to see a similar video on your m2c. I’m interested in seeing the wear and tear on a car where all the suspension has been changed removing the rubber.
Unfortunately M2 is gone
The m2c is fairly similar. I wouldn't be surprised the 'problems' would be similar if not the same.
So will you have it where someone could send you their F80 for example.
With a menu list of upgrades/replacements?
I would love to have Apex build my E90 M3.
Very interesting changes you're planning! Planning on building a G87 tool when it comes out, hope you'll be ahead of me with that, so I can get some more insights what's working etc!;)
Is there a specific reason, why you are using this strange filters on the filming now? Looks not so natural I have to say:/
S55 love
Is the crankhub stock on the m3/m4?
Pretty surprised that you aren’t running something like the Turner oil cooler skid plate that’s metal instead of the factory plastic. Glad to see the stock plate has survived the beating. Just curious, do you only run the crank bolt capture or have you installed an aftermarket crankhub ? My apologies if I’m beating a dead horse on that question
It is indeed a dead horse. It's a typical US thing for people who run ridiculous power and do street drag pulls. Then it may be necessary. In our case no problem
Does anyone else hear an echo in this video?
I realize it’s a large open space but just wondering if a directional microphone would improve the audio.
Jean-Pierre from Motoren Zimmer mentioned on one of the "Nordschleife GTR" videos (IIRC) that the wear on track is up to ten times as much as on the public road, would you agree ?
That’s the general rule of thumb since decades
Do you ever check the wear of the engine?
If yes: how?
Are the horses still there?
These videos are good, and you could go into more detail 'cause we're car geeks and that, know?
That cooler inside the left wheel arch looks pretty beat-up
Yep
I love this, I'm surprised by how many stuff need to change in a year... but then, this car is abused to hell & back on Green Hell.
Not much of that has to be changed, it's mostly preventative. The car would probably run fine for another year without most of these replacements not done now.
stock crankhub on motor?
Garage Whifbitz do a lot of work with most m cars the may have a solution to the oil cooler issue.
do you use oil trap door pan baffle kit in any of the cars? like the cupra for example?
Nope, all stock
What brake pads are you running guys? Just curious because you say the OEM discs last forever, yet pretty much everyone is struggling with brake judder on M4’s once they get even a little bit of heat in them. Everyone seems to be replacing discs like crazy but perhaps it’s the pad your using?
Looks like Endless pads to me (blue)
Endless are of course great pads, but the ring is super easy on brakes compared to smaller tracks.
Why does he overfill the oil? Isn’t that harmful to head gaskests and seals?
In the diff!! Did you watch the same video 😂
The black calipers/black painted anything isn't true. Engineering explained did a video on it too if you don't believe me but basically black seems to dissipate heat because it absorbs light which then turns into heat but black does not absorb heat. Adding any color layer of paint is paint and it actually makes it harder for the item to dissipate heat because it acts as a layer of insulation. The logic came from how black surfaces get hotter than a white surfaces so it can cool more heat but it does not help with heat dissipation. Just anodize you calipers if there aluminum.
End up building m4s to this standard for customers?
Have you guys installed some secret Manthey Mods to make it go 709? @18:34
Not really!
Who needs paper underbody trims on a race track?
being totally useless mechanically(thats why theres mechanics lol), i really like these walk/talk/updates with George n ur self, Robert as well.
What kind of KW will you install? Competition?
clubsport v3 if i remember correctly
@@David-uq4ns I think so too haha
@@David-uq4ns do you use original clubsport V3 springs ?!
Just asking as Clubsport uses a lot softer springs with 80N/mm compared to the JRZ where I think I saw 140N/mm on the spring in this video (front spring values)
@@vollcare4076 when it comes to the nordschleife you dont want your suspension to be very stiff like on gp tracks, tho im not no expert so just use whatever u feel fits your car the best
@@David-uq4ns In general you are right:
you do not need that stiff suspension on NOS as if you would drive on a GPT track.
but even this club sport V3 will be too soft for a car that will be used not as a daily anymore and only for track use.
V3 Clubsport is a good suspension if you use your car as a compromise daily & track.
But this has pretty soft spring rates:
E.g. Only 70N/mm one front spring where the JRZ suspension has 140N/mm as i can see.
So in case you’ll really install the V3 Clubsport I expect that you’d like to change the spring rate at least to sth about 100 or 120 on front
damn u r dog grew a lot since the last vid I watched :D
Did Philip move where his garage is?
What happend to Philip W ?
@@vollcare4076 He "quit" and work for Schirmer now if I am right.
@@munich_zpeed ok thanks
Strange, i thought his own workshop was running really well and he had a lot of track builds done for people
@@vollcare4076 it kind of went to well. He made a post on, I think Facebook. Too much work, no work life balance and burn out. He wanted to take a step back and focus on mental health. Which was a good decision :) even if it is sad for the scene at the ring.
@@munich_zpeed good for him that he realized and hopefully he’s doing good again, personally
The snout of the crankshaft is a failing point the RUclipsr Jordan RK tunes he has world record F80 BMW quarter mile drag cars 👌
They are running stock crankhub on the taxi right?
The yanks making 29 million horsepower whilst doing drag racing is way more stress than a track car….
@@MrCukydoh all the accessories ride on the crank hub of the F80 McDonald's or race track stock or not stock engine failure bent valves F80 problems 👌
@@michaelc51388 still waiting for it at 210 000 km's...
Too bad this car is Apex’s best car for rental, the rental section on their website has an M2 picture on it, but there is no M2 🙄
The new videography is appreciated but you'll need better lighting. I'd suggest laying a few LED shop lights on the floor temporarily while you film the undersides of cars on the lift. Your camera needs a flood light and George needs a spot flashlight/torch and a green laser pointer. We also need at least one close shot of Pancake looking into the camera in each video.
Put a piece of chicken on top of the camera/phone and when she see's it, drop it on the floor for her to eat. Do this enough times so she becomes used to checking the camera for random treats. Sorry Misha, Pancake is "easier on the eyes" than you.
Barely can understand the guy's English. Sorry but geez articulation is key for people in RUclips to understand... Sorry but true
I am from Germany and can easily understand everything clearly...
Oil in a gearbox is like on a vacation. No combustion, no high heat, no nothing. Could easily run 100k km.
No high heat? Maybe for daily use, but not on the track.
@@mgcharoudin compared to 300+ C in the piston rings area
Its a DCT gearbox where do you think the wear of the clutch plates goes? These gearboxes are having a harder life than the engine of this car.
Foodshot 0/10
Boring😴😴😴😴😴
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