If there was not a video, the cops would have stuck to the standard "we followed established procedures" line, and no one would have been held accountable.
I quit watching after the first quarter of the video. I was expecting an apology from the police, and a guarantee that the officer would be fired, and all others investigated for allowing this nurse to be abused. He just plain attacked her, as she was calmly trying to explain why she couldn't do what he was asking her to do. This has nothing to do with police/nurse relations, or police policies, or whatever. That officer ATTACKED that nurse for no reason.
Nurses deserve the utmost respect and support from all of us - I am deeply troubled by what happened to Nurse Wubble , and I sincerely hope that the police follow through on their promise to change their approach to all hospital staff.
yep i mean there is a fine line doing your job as an officer of the law, then thinking you can do whatever you want, hospital patient confidentiality is a fundamental guarantee, and that officer violated that mans rights, and nurse wubbles 100%, i am so glad he was fired. it should have been made clear that any officer doing that would be fired instantly. i will never understand how these officers spout thee are upholding the constitution, but have zero idea how much sway the 4th amendment has in court.
Although nurses would not b d 1st contacted person in d so called new protocol , nurses still need 2 have law knowledge in related areas 2 avoid them from being misused .
@@joyh785 As you have seen, knowing the law does not protect you from the police. This police chief is just as good as his worst police officer. A team or a organisation is in the end only as good as the weakest member.
@@tinzi4x4 Knowing d laws may NOT ALWAYS but , to an extent , do provide protection 2 those who knew them ...... understanding there's loopholes & money powered relation influence .
@@tinzi4x4 this is why you need to video tape them in all interactions, and simply say fuck the police, they do not care about you, and their job is not to protect you.
Sounds like the hospital did a lot of kissing the police or as it is called brown nosing. It is never the police fault, it's always the victim or the nurses. I'm so sorry the hospital folded. The nurse should sue. All these years and the Police don't know how to act????
When Nurse Alex Wubbels protected her patient, it wasn’t just because of hospital policy. Nurses are bound by ethics. She has an ethical responsibility keeping all patient’s information confidential. Crossing that line is enough for state boards to strip a nurse of his/her license. If a police officer is assigned to work with nurses, they, too, must be required to attend the exact class required of nurses. If not, the same scenario Wubbels suffered, will only be the beginning.
Wow, did chief Brown really say that police work is a job of compassion & love?? What planet is he from? Did he see the despicable actions of his flunky? Get real
@Dara Ishee - YES, the chief saw the entire video and was very angry about what that scumbag did to the nurse. I heard that the scumbag was fired for what he did.
@Demo Rcr Do you honestly think law enforcement in countries like New Zealand, Denmark, Norway deal with anything like the police in the US have to? Is there a Newark equivalent in New Zealand? How about a Chicago equivalent in Finland? The police in the US are not perfect but to compare their job to police officers in small homogeneous communities is apples and oranges. New Zealand has a population of less than 5 million. The US has 330 million.
@Demo Rcr I've traveled all over the US and have been to some of the countries that I mentioned. Gang activity in some of them is close to zero. Easy to act professional when the population is not spitting at you are trying to kill you.
Hurt feelings on both sides? I’m looking for the RUclips videos where cops were falsely arrested, handcuffed, and thrown in a squad car for doing their jobs.
You will not find such a video, but you will find an endless amount of videos where US police officers assault, falsy arrest and even murder innocent citizens.
You may not get rich but you make a very good living. And cops unlike nurses are there to enforce laws and arrest. Nurses are there to help and keep their patients safe and keep their medical records secure. That Cop wanted her to break the law because he the cop wanted something. When she said no, I can't do that. He got pissed because she didn't do what he wanted. Sadly, this happens a lot with cops.
She was arrested, she was assaulted, illegally detained, and could say kidnapped by a thug. Not a police officer, a thug. This one instance defined this officer. Hundreds of good deeds will not make up for the one bad. Ask a officer if a good driver with zero offense excuses the one time he/she get caught speeding. No will be the answer. This dog and pony show will not stop bad cops from being bad.
As an outsider looking in at these idiots crawling up their own arses to make amendments for actions they committed against this nurse!! I watched this awful arrest when the video went viral on the internet!! I cannot believe that these officers are still employed!! The security guards who were on duty should have gone hands on with that pathetic officer who forcibly arrested her!! They too should have been sacked!! This would have never happened in the UK 🇬🇧.......!! They are all stuttering to make their excuses!!
What is the point of agreeing a new protocol, when the LEOs ignored the existing agreed protocol? The Police will just ignore it again, when it suits them. As the lieutenant, told the Nurse, we can at illegally and you can contest it in court. What they are forgetting is that this cost money, which the cops will never have to pay or suffer the consequences off!
Nursing is a great profession that is lucrative, they are not cut from the same cloth. I was upset by the behavior of that police officer who traumatized Alex. She gave the police officer the laws of the hospital and the officer had none of them. Ms. Wubbles was arrested for something she had no control.
Coos should not be allowed past the lobby of a hospital. And under no circumstances should a nurse be allowed to draw blood from an unconscious person.
The first question by the media to the chief of police was very well stated. Training the officers to adhere to the hospitals legal right and responsibility to follow patient care and privacy protocol already in place appears to be lacking. The chief became defensive with his response. 8 minutes in and I haven’t heard an apology from the chief.
You're right, because it can happen again. Cops shouldn't even be allowed in hospitals, unless they have a justifiable reason to be there, not just show up in emergency the way they did.
This is all well and good as far as it goes. Nurses and LEO's must indeed be able to work together. This policy is good as far as improving the interaction between medical personnel and LEO's. BUT it SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN NECESSARY! There was already a policy in place that covered the situation. A policy that the arresting officer's own department had been involved in the drafting of. He was advised of that policy AND that it was approved by his own department. The hospital administrator was also contacted and he also told the arresting officer what was required. So, we have established policy, covering the exact situation, and approved by hospital AND department officials. There was a choice by the officer to ignore everything and arrest the person preventing what he wanted. This is false arrest any way you want to look at it. What I would like to see now, is the arresting officer charged with "patient endangerment" for removing a licensed caregiver from caring for an unconscious patient without ensuring the proper transfer of care to another licensed caregiver. That's what I would like to see now.
I hope these members of the Salt Lake City SS understand they could be brought into the E R on a stretcher and their life on the line and these same nurses will make a decision
3:06: “we are cut from the same cloth” Really? Nurses are obligated and are held under extreme scrutiny in how they performed their jobs. Cops, well , there are enough videos that show that most of then are in it for the thrill of the action and have an unbelievable amount of protection designed to help them keep the action going. Cut from the same cloth? No buddy, not even close by a thousand miles…
A new policy wasn’t needed. Police not following policy is the issue here. All three tyrants in uniform should have been terminated and charged with false imprisonment, and assault.
You know I can't believe the first chief officer had the audacity to say that we share the same field because it's nothing remotely the same. Nurses doctors and medical assistance took it ethical oath to defend protect and to protect the rights of their patients regardless if it's something they don't agree with their patients but they still respect that because it's that persons right to choose. They bring people back to life if it's that serious they mean the breaking bone and the assist on burns and bruises. Now the cops on the other hand, they put a gun on their hip and a badge on their chest and they think they're Above the Law and everybody else is beneath them when he has no more rights than I do to put his hands on me or anybody for that matter as he did Alex and I pray for that woman for her loyalty dedication and sacrifice for her patient. But as I was saying, the cops and I'm not judging all cops but within this country there's at least half the police force in this country or corrupt psychopathic with a very drenalin aggressive attitude and they demand you to do what they say to do when you have that right and you don't have to do what they say to do if you have not broken any laws and you can look all this up when it comes to your amendments and your constitutional rights, but when it comes to them instead of helping people and being what they were hired to do as protect and serve and to be peace officers not police officers because we don't need to be policed as human beings especially Americans in this country but when it comes to them throw the ones breaking the bones that the hospital nurses and doctors have to put back together they're the ones bringing people back to life because of a gunshot wound they did to a suspect for no apparent reason in the medical community are the ones banjan up all the bruises and scratches that the police officers put on there so call suspects with a gressive force and with prejudice.! No I don't care what day and officer has Karma he has no right whatsoever to put his hand on any human being or to extort money from them Rob them or imprison them for crimes that they haven't even committed as they write up some bogus charges so they can arrest people that they don't like. now I'm not saying everybody they rest is innocent because that's far from the truth but there are people who have fell victim to police officers Wrath because he's bullying them and pumping his chest in intimidation and aggressiveness and threatening so that they can go home and feel better about being themselves. There's no way in person man or woman should have that type of Authority or right to carry a gun in the badge that has a temperamental problem or maybe mentally insane because he can't handle insults or he can't handle a citizen know more about the wall than he does, but if a cop can't control his emotions when he's in the field he does not deserve a badge a gun or the fact to overseer and have authority over somebody else. if they learn to ask people to do something instead of demanding and telling them to do something, maybe they'll see it will go a whole lot easier than being an ass whole. God bless you Alex and I hope you can get over this because I know you might have fears when it comes to Cops now because of what this a****** did to you. just make sure you learn the law and your rights and protect yourself with intelligence because if they violate those rights they should be brought up on criminal charges as well as lose their job and the department County and/or state gets sued because of their actions and aggressive behavior and the lack of consideration and safety for others.
I would like to send somebody from 60 minutes and New York out to Salt Lake City somebody I really don't like who works for 60 minutes so they can be bored to death within 1 hour of Landing in that City
That hospital needs to review it's security. Wouldn't want to be a patient there. Thugs can just come in and assault nurses. The police chief should also resign and be prosecuted.
Cops are paying attention now when all of this happened. Ms. Nurse: sue them for millions and keep the hospital out of it because they don't any of your settlement.
classic tatic to shift the conversation away from who is being held responsible, to we have created a new policy. thankfully one reporter brought his brain to work and pointed out the existing policy was fine.
There was already a policy Agreed by this hospital and Police Departments Alex was advocating for her patient who was unable to do so himself She followed up by speaking to nursing administration to follow hospital policy my question is where was Security and The Code 10 10 team this is another example of police protecting and collaborating their own and abuse of power
Not necessarily. I recently was in emergency, and this nurse, gave me a diagnosis on my condition. I told her, I never received a diagnosis from a nurse. She got unhinged and started justifying herself to me, etc, because she knew she overstepped her boundaries as nurse. She wasn't qualified to give me a diagnosis. I thought of reporting her, but let it go.
Typical CYA. There was a blood draw policy that was ignored by this officer. Creating another policy that the officers will not follow doesn’t cure anything. Discipline bad officers. That will cure the problem.
I agree, this chief words should of been apologizing to the nurse and hospital for his officers horrific offenses and the traumatic event they put this nurse through, I’m sure if any of you ever been handcuffed you know what I’m talking about, I was once for a made up charge and I tell ya it’s something I never want to experience again, I really feel for this nurse, & that’s the problem with law enforcement they either hire or brainwash their deputies to have no sympathy or care about Joe citizens they are trained that we’re the enemy and they are god and can do whatever & wherever they want to us. Well I say no more! I will do everything in my power to try and make a change at least a start in my community and WE THE PEOPLE can make a change, there’s strength in numbers people, but we all have to stop being couch advocates and put feet in the street, the constitution is made for us it’s time we start making law enforcement honor their oath to it! It’s easy to voiceover opinion here and a day later go about our business and say “ boy I’m glad that didn’t happen to me” but what if one day it does or to our love one then I bet we do something about it. I would like to see what we dish out in salaries to cops every year ! Every video I see of abusive cops there’s never just 1 at a seen always 2-3-4 or more for a minor traffic offense, so if this many cops have nothing better to do than to rush over to intimidate and that’s exactly what it is intimidation then there needs to be some thinning of the force. Sorry for the rant I’m just upset at what these cops did to this nurse, my sister is a er nurse and know what she goes though everyday and to have a fucking pig like this pig YES PIG NOT A COP IN MY BOOK do to her what he did if I were there jail or no jail that cop would’ve picking up his teeth after he laid 1 finger on her! Exactly what the security should of done! Pussys! They should of took her to a private office and locked the door behind them I’m done now sorry again for the rant! And if the nurse should happen to read this my heart goes out to you and so sorry you had to go through this, I hope you sued the shit out of that cop shop! And if you can do anything on a personal level to that cop that laid hands on you I would do that also! Use this instance as a learning one , do everything to the fullest so no one will consider ever doing this to another nurse! God Bless all & Be Safe!
This is just Ridiculous how they are saying education needs to be had,,,, those cops OVER STEPPED!!!! Arresting the nurse!!!,, not education needed!!,,, that was wrong!!!!!
Police need to stop abusing their position of power and ignoring the laws and constitution. They should KNOW the law. He should have lead with an apology. There have been numerous Supreme Court cases about this exact thing. Police should not get a free pass to break our laws.
Translation:::::: You the public will pay for this......WE THE ADMINISTRATION, are not responsible for anything......But we have learned NEVER TO TALK TO A COP!!! But you get to pay for us learning this lesson!
You've just ruined all relationships between police and nurses you took that out of the scope of trust and love you're a big bs-er and you should be fired
The nurse should have sued. What happened is illegal. When things are not done legally they don’t stand up in court unless someone lies. Nothing would have happened if the videos had not been released. The officer that arrested the nurse should have been fired.
Nurse Wubbles knew the law, protected her unconscious patient, was incredibly professional-- chief!! Apologize Chief!!! Your people were unprofessional thugs!! The policy was in place, abide by the policy!! Explain the policy to YOUR officers!!! Keep your hands off the nurses!!
What good is a policy when it is ignored? The nurse showed those cops the current policy both LE and the hospital had agreed to and they arrested her anyway.
The problem I see here is these Captain ,Chief of police all sound good but they’re not the ones standing in the lobby violating someone’s rights, abusing someone, training their officers before they step into lobbies needs to be strictly in forced.
Keep the police out of hospitals period if they are going to act like that. That was an untrained officer. Never never use bullying tactics when you are dealing with another professional.
Does Police know the laws or Police act as they please? And I did not hear any apology from the police chief but a speech that make they look good. A punishment would only be a PAID administration leave that put them above the law or any policies. I guess after graduating from police academy you can do whatever you please
Unfortunately... They don't know... The only words that Chief officer Brown is absorbing is #supportive for their own benefit...pft. Bunch of hoodlums and crooks.
@@MrPatt1983 stop repeating that crap, what she received is "damages" they deserve true punishment. One got fired but needs to be jailed the other demoted, temporarily, and still acts as an idiot but should have been fired and jailed...!!!
@@MrPatt1983 nothing wrong with the truth, the issue is addressing what the proper response should have been, so as to prevent anything like this from ever happening again. This course of action is not changing anything.
You can tell these people are in fear of their police department. I wonder what threats these pigs used on these people. These cops are apes. The Hospital's shouldn't let the pigs on the property for the safety of the staff.
Mike Brown is just trying to cover his department. All this seeking help is just a smoke screen. There was a policy in place...it had been done by the hospital and SLPD. The failure of the officers involved to know the policy and law is inexcusable. The chief has a training problem in his department...his officers ar ignorant of the law. IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE !!! The lieutenant should have been fired. His ignorance of the law is profound. His actions warranted termination. Chief Brown needs to accept responsibility for the actions of his officers and his department.
No need for a new policy, the original policy was very clear, the cops just didn't like the answer the nurse gave them. The 'cop' should have arrested himself and placed himself in a time out in the back of the cruiser for false detention/arrest or whatever that shit show was called.
The Chief needed to condemn the behavior of his policemen arresting this nurse, in the strongest manner possible, and offered an apology. He said nurses are policemen are one and the same? Don't think so.
Just wait until one of those cops gets injured in the line of duty and is admitted to that ER. I'm sure they're going to get the very best medical care possible.
Despite what anyone thinks, when a person gets arrested and are told that they have to submit to a blood draw or that if you don't piss in a cup then they will get a warrant and take you to the hospital and they will have you urine forcibly drawn with a catheter. As soon as they do something like that without your consent that is considered assault and sexual assault . You can file a lawsuit and win. I know of a couple of cases where the people filed and won. So have their badges taken and licenses revokes for everyone involved in the case. When a police officer does not know the laws that he or she have sworn to protect then that person should have his or her badge and weapons removed and should be prosecuted for any and all damages or harm they may have caused while they were sworn in to enforce the laws that have been set for the United States of America.
This guy is supposed to be a leader the chief of police there is no reason a nurse doing her job should have been treated like that at all. This so called chief is making excuses from the very beginning whoever was calling the shots on the police officer side that they should be terminated!!
500 pages of policy hmmm, what does policy 237 say? Don't know? Ok you may have missed that one, how about policy 17...don't know that one either hmmm. How do the police ever do anything in the SLC PD if they don't know policies? Probably need an annual test with a formal examining board challenging officer knowledge of the 'policies'.
Why didn’t the chiefs just say his officer was wrong in what he did all this protocol cut from the same cloth is BS why wasn’t a supervisor called to make that call was that officer ever fired , suspend reprimanded If not that means the police Dept. Did nothing wrong and if that’s the case we do we need new PROTOCOLS ..???
Wasn't the policy to uphold the constitution to begin with. If they can't follow those basic laws what is their to hold them to the "500 pages" they have now.
Smoke and mirrors. Police department needed to give the perception of taking action and it sounds like the new policy is basically putting a protocol in writing. I bet the policy is nothing but fluff. Police department should be grateful that the nurses association cooperated.
You are wrong Nursing is caring consolation,They provide a shoulder to cry Whereas the police is you are guilty until proven innocent There is no comparison
Was there an underlying agenda by these officers reguarding this particular patient? Has the Salt Lake City pd explored the potential of a criminal motive by the two main officers involved? In the video released! Did they have an interest in that case? Figure out why they went awry?
this was damage control for the cops with the face-saving non-apology. The fact that neither cop publicly apologized to Miss Wubbels doesn't make me feel good....
The nurse showed the cop the policy they already had with the hospital and he was mad because she said No.
If there was not a video, the cops would have stuck to the standard "we followed established procedures" line, and no one would have been held accountable.
It has a name... Tyranny
The only regret the police has is that this was captured on video.
Amen brother. 100% Correct. That's why they hate being filmed.
Exactly
First sentence from the police chief should have been an apology.
I know right.
I quit watching after the first quarter of the video. I was expecting an apology from the police, and a guarantee that the officer would be fired, and all others investigated for allowing this nurse to be abused. He just plain attacked her, as she was calmly trying to explain why she couldn't do what he was asking her to do. This has nothing to do with police/nurse relations, or police policies, or whatever. That officer ATTACKED that nurse for no reason.
Nurses deserve the utmost respect and support from all of us - I am deeply troubled by what happened to Nurse Wubble , and I sincerely hope that the police follow through on their promise to change their approach to all hospital staff.
Checking in with security first is not why this happened, cops thinking they can just force searching blood or hospital records was the problem here!
yep i mean there is a fine line doing your job as an officer of the law, then thinking you can do whatever you want, hospital patient confidentiality is a fundamental guarantee, and that officer violated that mans rights, and nurse wubbles 100%, i am so glad he was fired. it should have been made clear that any officer doing that would be fired instantly.
i will never understand how these officers spout thee are upholding the constitution, but have zero idea how much sway the 4th amendment has in court.
I think his speech should of started with a sincere apology for the why this post was necessary. Just my opinion
I agree.
“Cut from the same cloth”? No sir you couldn’t be more wrong. How dare you say that.
This is NOT a change in policy, but a shift of the burden in the hospital to deal with the police, who are hell bent on violating a patients rights.
Although nurses would not b d 1st contacted person in d so called new protocol , nurses still need 2 have law knowledge in related areas 2 avoid them from being misused .
@@joyh785 As you have seen, knowing the law does not protect you from the police. This police chief is just as good as his worst police officer. A team or a organisation is in the end only as good as the weakest member.
@@tinzi4x4
Knowing d laws may NOT ALWAYS but , to an extent , do provide protection 2 those who knew them ...... understanding there's loopholes & money powered relation influence .
@@tinzi4x4 this is why you need to video tape them in all interactions, and simply say fuck the police, they do not care about you, and their job is not to protect you.
Sounds like the hospital did a lot of kissing the police or as it is called brown nosing. It is never the police fault, it's always the victim or the nurses. I'm so sorry the hospital folded. The nurse should sue. All these years and the Police don't know how to act????
This is what happens when you play nice and not SUE!! You dont even get an apology from the chief!!! This idiot chief should be fired!
I agree Kumar!
She won $500K
I agree
Kumar N -She was given an apology from the chief as soon as he was informed about the incident. The arresting officer didn't apologize.
Actually Kumar and Skippy she was given an apology learn your facts first
When Nurse Alex Wubbels protected her patient, it wasn’t just because of hospital policy. Nurses are bound by ethics. She has an ethical responsibility keeping all patient’s information confidential. Crossing that line is enough for state boards to strip a nurse of his/her license. If a police officer is assigned to work with nurses, they, too, must be required to attend the exact class required of nurses. If not, the same scenario Wubbels suffered, will only be the beginning.
Some police have no ethics
What cop had hurt feelings ? Oh please... This wasn’t hurt feelings. She was arrested AGGRESSIVELY.
Wow, did chief Brown really say that police work is a job of compassion & love?? What planet is he from? Did he see the despicable actions of his flunky? Get real
@Dara Ishee - YES, the chief saw the entire video and was very angry about what that scumbag did to the nurse. I heard that the scumbag was fired for what he did.
SLCPD had a policy in place, Det. Payne decided to ignore it. What assurance do we have that some other cowboy won't violate the new policy?
Exactly.
There was already a good policy in place. Payne ignored it and the law. Never heard the chief say the next cop to break the policy or law is fired.
"We are cut from the same cloth", really. Police are about absolute power.
Marita Gladson No they are not.
@Demo Rcr Do you honestly think law enforcement in countries like New Zealand, Denmark, Norway deal with anything like the police in the US have to? Is there a Newark equivalent in New Zealand? How about a Chicago equivalent in Finland? The police in the US are not perfect but to compare their job to police officers in small homogeneous communities is apples and oranges. New Zealand has a population of less than 5 million. The US has 330 million.
@Demo Rcr I've traveled all over the US and have been to some of the countries that I mentioned. Gang activity in some of them is close to zero. Easy to act professional when the population is not spitting at you are trying to kill you.
@Demo Rcr these leaders, judges and cops and hospital CEO s are Freemasons, cut from the same cloth, worshiping their god Lucifer.
Police are all about power, revenue generation and making sure that everyone that they interact with knows who's boss.
Hurt feelings on both sides?
I’m looking for the RUclips videos where cops were falsely arrested, handcuffed, and thrown in a squad car for doing their jobs.
Exactly! I only saw one person being harassed, pushed around and then arrested.
Good luck finding that, it doesn't exist.
You will not find such a video, but you will find an endless amount of videos where US police officers assault, falsy arrest and even murder innocent citizens.
This is SLC, these are hardly hardened veterans. More like little Hitlers playing cops and nurses.
Lmao
You may not get rich but you make a very good living. And cops unlike nurses are there to enforce laws and arrest. Nurses are there to help and keep their patients safe and keep their medical records secure. That Cop wanted her to break the law because he the cop wanted something. When she said no, I can't do that. He got pissed because she didn't do what he wanted. Sadly, this happens a lot with cops.
She was arrested, she was assaulted, illegally detained, and could say kidnapped by a thug. Not a police officer, a thug. This one instance defined this officer. Hundreds of good deeds will not make up for the one bad. Ask a officer if a good driver with zero offense excuses the one time he/she get caught speeding. No will be the answer.
This dog and pony show will not stop bad cops from being bad.
She was arrested by a police officer
A loving bond between Police and Nurses - you could have fooled me!!
As an outsider looking in at these idiots crawling up their own arses to make amendments for actions they committed against this nurse!! I watched this awful arrest when the video went viral on the internet!! I cannot believe that these officers are still employed!! The security guards who were on duty should have gone hands on with that pathetic officer who forcibly arrested her!! They too should have been sacked!! This would have never happened in the UK 🇬🇧.......!! They are all stuttering to make their excuses!!
This is shocking, now you need a policy to explain the law and common sense to a corrupt police officer.
corrupt police and big ego is the problem
What is the point of agreeing a new protocol, when the LEOs ignored the existing agreed protocol? The Police will just ignore it again, when it suits them. As the lieutenant, told the Nurse, we can at illegally and you can contest it in court. What they are forgetting is that this cost money, which the cops will never have to pay or suffer the consequences off!
You mean "former lieutenant".
@@kurtvonfricken6829 He's not on the force anymore.
Nursing is a great profession that is lucrative, they are not cut from the same cloth. I was upset by the behavior of that police officer who traumatized Alex. She gave the police officer the laws of the hospital and the officer had none of them. Ms. Wubbles was arrested for something she had no control.
Coos should not be allowed past the lobby of a hospital. And under no circumstances should a nurse be allowed to draw blood from an unconscious person.
" he didnt even apologize to the team beating around the bush saying nothing!
The first question by the media to the chief of police was very well stated. Training the officers to adhere to the hospitals legal right and responsibility to follow patient care and privacy protocol already in place appears to be lacking. The chief became defensive with his response. 8 minutes in and I haven’t heard an apology from the chief.
I heard no apology, just we changed a policy that was broken by a policeman that was "stressed" that wasn't broken...he was making his own law...
This Press Conference is the ultimate example of "Missing the Point"
You're right, because it can happen again. Cops shouldn't even be allowed in hospitals, unless they have a justifiable reason to be there, not just show up in emergency the way they did.
This is all well and good as far as it goes. Nurses and LEO's must indeed be able to work together.
This policy is good as far as improving the interaction between medical personnel and LEO's.
BUT it SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN NECESSARY! There was already a policy in place that covered the situation. A policy that the arresting officer's own department had been involved in the drafting of. He was advised of that policy AND that it was approved by his own department. The hospital administrator was also contacted and he also told the arresting officer what was required.
So, we have established policy, covering the exact situation, and approved by hospital AND department officials. There was a choice by the officer to ignore everything and arrest the person preventing what he wanted. This is false arrest any way you want to look at it.
What I would like to see now, is the arresting officer charged with "patient endangerment" for removing a licensed caregiver from caring for an unconscious patient without ensuring the proper transfer of care to another licensed caregiver.
That's what I would like to see now.
Wow ... Everyone is back peddling so fast they are all breathless.
This is a total CYA from the Mayor to every official in the city. This is nonsense. There should be a demonstrated cleaning of house.
I hope these members of the Salt Lake City SS understand they could be brought into the E R on a stretcher and their life on the line and these same nurses will make a decision
3:06: “we are cut from the same cloth”
Really? Nurses are obligated and are held under extreme scrutiny in how they performed their jobs.
Cops, well , there are enough videos that show that most of then are in it for the thrill of the action and have an unbelievable amount of protection designed to help them keep the action going.
Cut from the same cloth?
No buddy, not even close by a thousand miles…
This was just a bunch of PR nonsense, full of hot air.
A new policy wasn’t needed. Police not following policy is the issue here. All three tyrants in uniform should have been terminated and charged with false imprisonment, and assault.
You know I can't believe the first chief officer had the audacity to say that we share the same field because it's nothing remotely the same. Nurses doctors and medical assistance took it ethical oath to defend protect and to protect the rights of their patients regardless if it's something they don't agree with their patients but they still respect that because it's that persons right to choose. They bring people back to life if it's that serious they mean the breaking bone and the assist on burns and bruises. Now the cops on the other hand, they put a gun on their hip and a badge on their chest and they think they're Above the Law and everybody else is beneath them when he has no more rights than I do to put his hands on me or anybody for that matter as he did Alex and I pray for that woman for her loyalty dedication and sacrifice for her patient. But as I was saying, the cops and I'm not judging all cops but within this country there's at least half the police force in this country or corrupt psychopathic with a very drenalin aggressive attitude and they demand you to do what they say to do when you have that right and you don't have to do what they say to do if you have not broken any laws and you can look all this up when it comes to your amendments and your constitutional rights, but when it comes to them instead of helping people and being what they were hired to do as protect and serve and to be peace officers not police officers because we don't need to be policed as human beings especially Americans in this country but when it comes to them throw the ones breaking the bones that the hospital nurses and doctors have to put back together they're the ones bringing people back to life because of a gunshot wound they did to a suspect for no apparent reason in the medical community are the ones banjan up all the bruises and scratches that the police officers put on there so call suspects with a gressive force and with prejudice.! No I don't care what day and officer has Karma he has no right whatsoever to put his hand on any human being or to extort money from them Rob them or imprison them for crimes that they haven't even committed as they write up some bogus charges so they can arrest people that they don't like. now I'm not saying everybody they rest is innocent because that's far from the truth but there are people who have fell victim to police officers Wrath because he's bullying them and pumping his chest in intimidation and aggressiveness and threatening so that they can go home and feel better about being themselves. There's no way in person man or woman should have that type of Authority or right to carry a gun in the badge that has a temperamental problem or maybe mentally insane because he can't handle insults or he can't handle a citizen know more about the wall than he does, but if a cop can't control his emotions when he's in the field he does not deserve a badge a gun or the fact to overseer and have authority over somebody else. if they learn to ask people to do something instead of demanding and telling them to do something, maybe they'll see it will go a whole lot easier than being an ass whole. God bless you Alex and I hope you can get over this because I know you might have fears when it comes to Cops now because of what this a****** did to you. just make sure you learn the law and your rights and protect yourself with intelligence because if they violate those rights they should be brought up on criminal charges as well as lose their job and the department County and/or state gets sued because of their actions and aggressive behavior and the lack of consideration and safety for others.
Is there even one black person in that hospital or even in that City this is so funny it's white people not get getting along with other White people
I would like to send somebody from 60 minutes and New York out to Salt Lake City somebody I really don't like who works for 60 minutes so they can be bored to death within 1 hour of Landing in that City
Consider yourself sued I read everything you printed and now my eyes are damaged
That hospital needs to review it's security. Wouldn't want to be a patient there. Thugs can just come in and assault nurses. The police chief should also resign and be prosecuted.
What was security supposed to do?
Cops are paying attention now when all of this happened. Ms. Nurse: sue them for millions and keep the hospital out of it because they don't any of your settlement.
classic tatic to shift the conversation away from who is being held responsible, to we have created a new policy. thankfully one reporter brought his brain to work and pointed out the existing policy was fine.
There was already a policy
Agreed by this hospital and Police Departments
Alex was advocating for her patient who was unable to do so himself
She followed up by speaking to nursing administration to follow hospital policy
my question is
where was Security
and The Code 10 10 team
this is another example of police protecting and collaborating their own
and abuse of power
Funny . POLICE is a job of love and service lolololololol
Actually Charlie he's right because it is a calling
@@glenndukes4936
Alot of people became cops because it's a job that's needed and secure. And pays good. Some it's a calling. Most it's not.
Nurses are good people
Not necessarily. I recently was in emergency, and this nurse, gave me a diagnosis on my condition. I told her, I never received a diagnosis from a nurse. She got unhinged and started justifying herself to me, etc, because she knew she overstepped her boundaries as nurse. She wasn't qualified to give me a diagnosis. I thought of reporting her, but let it go.
ALARMING BECAUSE THESE PIGS WERE CAUGHT ON CAMERA
Typical CYA. There was a blood draw policy that was ignored by this officer. Creating another policy that the officers will not follow doesn’t cure anything. Discipline bad officers. That will cure the problem.
NONE OF THIS WILL CHANGE ANYTHING
THE COPS ARE STILL TREATING PEOPLE LIKE SHIT
THIS DOES NOT PROTECT THE PUBLIC FROM THIS TYPE OF TREATMENT
I agree, this chief words should of been apologizing to the nurse and hospital for his officers horrific offenses and the traumatic event they put this nurse through, I’m sure if any of you ever been handcuffed you know what I’m talking about, I was once for a made up charge and I tell ya it’s something I never want to experience again, I really feel for this nurse, & that’s the problem with law enforcement they either hire or brainwash their deputies to have no sympathy or care about Joe citizens they are trained that we’re the enemy and they are god and can do whatever & wherever they want to us.
Well I say no more! I will do everything in my power to try and make a change at least a start in my community and WE THE PEOPLE can make a change, there’s strength in numbers people, but we all have to stop being couch advocates and put feet in the street, the constitution is made for us it’s time we start making law enforcement honor their oath to it!
It’s easy to voiceover opinion here and a day later go about our business and say “ boy I’m glad that didn’t happen to me” but what if one day it does or to our love one then I bet we do something about it.
I would like to see what we dish out in salaries to cops every year ! Every video I see of abusive cops there’s never just 1 at a seen always 2-3-4 or more for a minor traffic offense, so if this many cops have nothing better to do than to rush over to intimidate and that’s exactly what it is intimidation then there needs to be some thinning of the force.
Sorry for the rant I’m just upset at what these cops did to this nurse, my sister is a er nurse and know what she goes though everyday and to have a fucking pig like this pig YES PIG NOT A COP IN MY BOOK do to her what he did if I were there jail or no jail that cop would’ve picking up his teeth after he laid 1 finger on her! Exactly what the security should of done! Pussys! They should of took her to a private office and locked the door behind them
I’m done now sorry again for the rant!
And if the nurse should happen to read this my heart goes out to you and so sorry you had to go through this, I hope you sued the shit out of that cop shop! And if you can do anything on a personal level to that cop that laid hands on you I would do that also! Use this instance as a learning one , do everything to the fullest so no one will consider ever doing this to another nurse!
God Bless all & Be Safe!
How many times did they, the police, get away with bullying and violating patients, before the viral video?
as a retired medical personal this speech made me sick so wrong
NURSE: SAVES LIFE **
POLICE" DESTROYING LIFE!!!
can I read the policy?....
This is just Ridiculous how they are saying education needs to be had,,,, those cops OVER STEPPED!!!! Arresting the nurse!!!,, not education needed!!,,, that was wrong!!!!!
Fire every cop at that fiasco then spout your horseshit! draft a policy to circumvent an unconscious person rights to be violated!
A new policy...hmmm what exactly was wrong with the old policy?
The nurse should have sued. What happened is illegal.
My question is slcpd new blood policy violate human right laws?
Every cop that stood up behind that microphone is so full of crap they should be declared a fire hazard! It's not good.
Police need to stop abusing their position of power and ignoring the laws and constitution. They should KNOW the law. He should have lead with an apology. There have been numerous Supreme Court cases about this exact thing. Police should not get a free pass to break our laws.
Translation:::::: You the public will pay for this......WE THE ADMINISTRATION, are not responsible for anything......But we have learned NEVER TO TALK TO A COP!!! But you get to pay for us learning this lesson!
You've just ruined all relationships between police and nurses you took that out of the scope of trust and love you're a big bs-er and you should be fired
The nurse should have sued. What happened is illegal. When things are not done legally they don’t stand up in court unless someone lies. Nothing would have happened if the videos had not been released. The officer that arrested the nurse should have been fired.
There is already policies and Laws in Place it is called the 4th Amendment.
Nurse Wubbles knew the law, protected her unconscious patient, was incredibly professional-- chief!! Apologize Chief!!! Your people were unprofessional thugs!! The policy was in place, abide by the policy!! Explain the policy to YOUR officers!!! Keep your hands off the nurses!!
Hard to believe Officer Payne is still involved in law enforcement and has never admitted his own culpability
They certainty showed a lot of love and service to nurse Amy
What good is a policy when it is ignored? The nurse showed those cops the current policy both LE and the hospital had agreed to and they arrested her anyway.
I just see a bunch of people fighting not to fall asleep for speeches that were not necessary
Police didn’t issue an apology nor did they arrest the cop for assault who arrested the nurse.
This is only a example of the Police not following the Law and arresting people when they have NO CAUSE.
The problem I see here is these Captain ,Chief of police all sound good but they’re not the ones standing in the lobby violating someone’s rights, abusing someone, training their officers before they step into lobbies needs to be strictly in forced.
Keep the police out of hospitals period if they are going to act like that. That was an untrained officer. Never never use bullying tactics when you are dealing with another professional.
Not on the same team. Nurses and hospitals cannot arbitrarily arrest anyone. Police should be subordinated to hospital jurisdiction.
Love and service...work and happiness
Cops and nurses cut from the same mold is a joke. Does he really mean that?
Oh god... Don't kid yourself chief officer brown
Does Police know the laws or Police act as they please? And I did not hear any apology from the police chief but a speech that make they look good. A punishment would only be a PAID administration leave that put them above the law or any policies. I guess after graduating from police academy you can do whatever you please
Fumi Yama Officer Payne was fired and the lieutenant was demoted to officer. Nurse Wubbles received a settlement of more than $500,000.
Unfortunately... They don't know... The only words that Chief officer Brown is absorbing is #supportive for their own benefit...pft. Bunch of hoodlums and crooks.
@@MrPatt1983 stop repeating that crap, what she received is "damages" they deserve true punishment. One got fired but needs to be jailed the other demoted, temporarily, and still acts as an idiot but should have been fired and jailed...!!!
@@cq4fun Stop repeating the truth?
@@MrPatt1983 nothing wrong with the truth, the issue is addressing what the proper response should have been, so as to prevent anything like this from ever happening again. This course of action is not changing anything.
You can tell these people are in fear of their police department. I wonder what threats these pigs used on these people. These cops are apes. The Hospital's shouldn't let the pigs on the property for the safety of the staff.
Mike Brown is just trying to cover his department. All this seeking help is just a smoke screen. There was a policy in place...it had been done by the hospital and SLPD.
The failure of the officers involved to know the policy and law is inexcusable. The chief has a training problem in his department...his officers ar ignorant of the law. IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE !!! The lieutenant should have been fired. His ignorance of the law is profound. His actions warranted termination. Chief Brown needs to accept responsibility for the actions of his officers and his department.
The Chief should have apologize right from the jump to the Nurses and not thank his cops for doing a good job because they didn't in this case.
There was a policy agreed by the hospital and police. They didnt honor it. What makes u think they Will honor it the next time it happens?
She put out the video because the police were slow on the investigation
No need for a new policy, the original policy was very clear, the cops just didn't like the answer the nurse gave them. The 'cop' should have arrested himself and placed himself in a time out in the back of the cruiser for false detention/arrest or whatever that shit show was called.
When a cop goes to that hospital they should not be in hurry to help them.
The Chief needed to condemn the behavior of his policemen arresting this nurse, in the strongest manner possible, and offered an apology.
He said nurses are policemen are one and the same? Don't think so.
Just wait until one of those cops gets injured in the line of duty and is admitted to that ER. I'm sure they're going to get the very best medical care possible.
So what was compromised patient rights or police policies getting their way now from hospitals by going to the heads instead or arresting nurses.
Despite what anyone thinks, when a person gets arrested and are told that they have to submit to a blood draw or that if you don't piss in a cup then they will get a warrant and take you to the hospital and they will have you urine forcibly drawn with a catheter. As soon as they do something like that without your consent that is considered assault and sexual assault . You can file a lawsuit and win. I know of a couple of cases where the people filed and won. So have their badges taken and licenses revokes for everyone involved in the case. When a police officer does not know the laws that he or she have sworn to protect then that person should have his or her badge and weapons removed and should be prosecuted for any and all damages or harm they may have caused while they were sworn in to enforce the laws that have been set for the United States of America.
This guy is supposed to be a leader the chief of police there is no reason a nurse doing her job should have been treated like that at all. This so called chief is making excuses from the very beginning whoever was calling the shots on the police officer side that they should be terminated!!
500 pages of policy hmmm, what does policy 237 say? Don't know? Ok you may have missed that one, how about policy 17...don't know that one either hmmm. How do the police ever do anything in the SLC PD if they don't know policies? Probably need an annual test with a formal examining board challenging officer knowledge of the 'policies'.
There was no need for a new protocol. Problem was officer Pyne in the arse refused be advised on the perfectly reasonable existing protocol.
They should have criminal trespass all cops from the property. Better protection for patients And staff.
Why didn’t the chiefs just say his officer was wrong in what he did all this protocol cut from the same cloth is BS why wasn’t a supervisor called to make that call was that officer ever fired , suspend reprimanded If not that means the police Dept. Did nothing wrong and if that’s the case we do we need new PROTOCOLS ..???
How can the police understand a policy when they don't understand the constitution.
Wasn't the policy to uphold the constitution to begin with. If they can't follow those basic laws what is their to hold them to the "500 pages" they have now.
Smoke and mirrors. Police department needed to give the perception of taking action and it sounds like the new policy is basically putting a protocol in writing. I bet the policy is nothing but fluff. Police department should be grateful that the nurses association cooperated.
This chief failed. He had a month to think about his words. No wonder his employees are thugs.
this guy is the biggest flim flam liar cop I have ever heard of.
Maybe the Police should Remember one Big Fact, How you Conduct yourself now, May Reflect Later in the Treatment you may need.
You are wrong Nursing is caring consolation,They provide a shoulder to cry
Whereas the police is you are guilty until proven innocent There is no comparison
Was there an underlying agenda by these officers reguarding this particular patient?
Has the Salt Lake City pd explored the potential of a criminal motive by the two main officers involved? In the video released! Did they have an interest in that case? Figure out why they went awry?
They were trying to get the responsibility of the accident off them they were chasing a guy in a pickup truck that hit this guy head on
this was damage control for the cops with the face-saving non-apology. The fact that neither cop publicly apologized to Miss Wubbels doesn't make me feel good....