Make More Contacts With This Method
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- Try this on your next road trip and see how many contacts you can make.
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"Even K8MRD can do it" = the best part of the video 😆😂
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If this gets K8MRD to start using APRS, I'll eat my antenna.
I have two radios mounted in my vehicle; a FTM400 mobile and a CB radio, last summer (2024) I drove across Canada to the west coast from Toronto. Before the trip I programmed repeaters that were going to be along my route in the FTM400 and named/marked them by the city/town they were close to. During the trip I monitored 146.520 and also scanned the local repeaters. I got zero response on 146.520 but made about ten contacts when using the repeaters. I also monitored the CB radio. On it I could hear many US stations booming out but very little local traffic. On the truckers channel 19 I would usually get a response when I voiced out.
I used this at my home base station before I moved. Hams passing through were always delighted to be spotted because they wre using APRS.
I need to make a shirt "So Easy K8MRD Can Do It". I've even said that in some of my own videos lol! Still hate you though.
I would buy that shirt!
I was on my way back from Dayton Hamvention to my home in central Kentucky about 15 years ago. I'm on I-75 south, and I pass a car with a ham callsign license plate, and an antenna on the back. I had my Icom handheld with me, so I thought, "what the heck, give this guy a call on 146.52, and see if he's monitoring." To my surprise, he came back to me, and we had a nice QSO. He told me he and his friend were also on the way home from Hamvention. I don't know why more hams don't monitor 52, especially when they are traveling. Most transceivers have a function that will monitor 146.52 as a priority frequency. Or, just put a sticker on your back window that says 146.52. Most hams that see that will know what it means. You don't even need to have a ham callsign license plate. Just say, "Black Camry heading south on I-75, are you up on 52?" If I hear you, I will respond. I always monitor 146.52 when I am at home. I have had the occasional request for directions, assistance from travelers, as I live a few miles from Interstate 75 here in central Kentucky.
I cant tell you how many times I pass a car with HAM plates but NO antenna. I call out on .52 anyway and rarely get anything. Can't understand why you have the plate and no mobile radio.
146.52 is just another crapshoot. A couple of decades ago, I ran a Yaesu 5100 mobile. I had it set for VHF and UHF simplex priority during full bandscan on both bands. I bagged my first, and yet to date, only terrestrial mobile to aeronautical mobile VHF contact on 146.520!
Over the last few years, I've monitored several HF /AM contacts but have yet to log one. Fingers crossed for my first commercial airline contact.
On my 1.25hr afternoon work commute, I monitor 20m, 146.52, and the ISS UHF downlink.
73 de NM9X
I'm planning to set up Voice Alert on my FTM-400 tomorrow, thanks! During a trip from Strawberry Plain to Murfreesboro, I picked up a skip just west of Crossville into North Carolina, and then I made a contact with an aircraft on 146.52 while I was east of Lebanon. It was a fun trip!
Always fun to get random long distance 2M contacts
Summary: Program in 144.39 MHz TSQL 100.0. Listen for packet. Respond.
Thanks!
Years ago, there was a voice recorder module that you could interface with your rig. Every minute to 5 minutes it would key up and give your call, saying, "Monitoring 52 Simplex"... The ham who was making and selling them is now a Silent Key, but I had one in an IC-22S in the family vehicle for years. You have to make some noise. Nobody is going to hear your receiver unless it's a superregen!
De WB2VUO, on 2 meters since 1966!
I have a FT5D and I hear the APRS packets all the time!
That's because the FT5 doesn't have the voice alert feature. If you have the volume up, it will hear all the packets. Both those close by and those coming through the digipeater.
Driving across Pennsylvania, I usually have 2-3 contacts on 146.520 😎 how often do you call out??
He said he was monitoring. Which explains the problem, give a call every 5 or 10 miles, and you’ll probably have more contacts than you can count.
That was my thought. If everybody is listening and nobody throws their call out, it is going to be very quiet.
@@BryanTorok Zactly!
Thank you for sharing this I have run voice alert on my APRS radio but I just did not know a non APRS radio can participate. Wow.
It's pretty cool that almost any 2M radio can participate :-)
Driving thru Las Vegas Nevada many years ago. Heard about Voice Alert. No aprs capable radio at that time but programmed existing radio, called "listening Voice Alert" . Local fellow heard the call and we had a nice qao
Thanks for the information. I'll add that to my VHF communication tool box on my next road trip.
Excellent video, I will most definitely be trying this out on my next road trip.
Thanks!
Good tip for last resort emergency contacts as well. Worthwhile place to try for help if you need it.
Thank you so much for the tip this is an awesome feature that I did not know was available. You spend money on these radios and I like it when people explain all the features that you may not know about I have an FTM 500.
Glad you found it helpful!
How often did you make a call on 146.520? I monitor many frequencies with my ICOM 4100a and I use the Near Repeater function.
If you drive and just listen, you'll score a big nothing but I find if you make yourself known and 'listening' on 520 you'll do much better. I'm convinced there are more Hams on 520 than one would think. Especially with tless activity on local repeaters.
in japan, there is specific freq for calling in vhf and uhf(145 and 433Mhz), and they are monitoring by most of the ham operator which i think great.
Nice tip.
Cool tip. Thanks.
I am still trying to understand the need, or why I would want to do this.
Brilliant!😎
Hey, come to Chicago! 146.520 is very busy here.
I drive several thousand of miles a year using both methods. Only 1 contact using the voice alert method. I did have someone contact me based on adding my listening frequency into my APRS packet. I have found CB is more road friendly, especially with fellow RVers. If I put another ham radio in my truck it will be HF and not VHF.
You can pass all the tests, invest in any amount of equipment, join clubs and support their repeaters but, if no one wants to talk to YOU, they'll never call.
IMMEDIATELY goes to chirp to punch this thing in.
Sounds like dual watch and a/b frequencies is going to make the magic on this one. Appreciate the tip.
Assuming he came over to CO on I-70, 5 bucks says his one contact on 52 was N0OER out of Junction City. He monitors that freq. more hours than Walmart is open.
Interesting, so for a yaesu ftm-500 set voice alert to Tone Sql with 100hz and you are good to go? Does this still work if you have APRS Mute on? or is it one or the other. Thanks for the knowledge transfer!
It should work with APRS mute
I have hrard of 'voice alert' before, but it wasn't explained very well. Your explanation was very good. So this FT5DR that i have can't do TSQL on it's B band?
So a 'voice alert' capable APRS rig must be capable of TSQL? I wonder how many rigs will have that listed in their specs?
The FT5 is limited and doesn't allow for voice alert. It is one of the things that annoys me about the FT5. The weird thing is that all of the Yaesu mobiles (300/400/500) will do voice alert. Not sure why they chose to leave it out of the FT5.
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Please don't kill me for what I'm about to say. At least the chicken band is more active LOL
Cell phones have destroyed VHF UHF phone. Before cell phones local repeaters were very busy.
Drive through Indianapolis.... 6.52 is very busy all day
What is the motivation for starting out simplex, as opposed to starting on a repeater and then moving to another frequency on simplex?
I think the idea of meeting on 146.52 is friendly for hams passing through areas outside their hometown where we might not know the local repeaters or have them programmed. Most people have a way to jump to 146.52 quickly.
Something I will have to try with my FTM-500.
Great radio to try it with.
I usually have multiple contacts on a road trip with just 146.52. I believe most hams, at least the ones I know, have 146.52 on there scan when driving. Thanks for the information though.
AND it helps to throw our call sign out every 15 minutes or so.
Yaesu FTM-200 and 300 also have voice alert.
And, FTM-400XDR, too.
Interesting idea. I don’t have a D-75, I have a D-74. Don’t think it will do APRS Voice.. Going road trip tomorrow may try TSQL 100 Hz see if I hear anything. I have a VX-6, great radio.
I don't own the D74 but it looks like it is an option according to this thread lists.tapr.org/pipermail/aprssig_lists.tapr.org/2019-May/048073.html
@@KM4ACKlooked at the d74 it does list APRS voice. I will try it
This is just confusing to me. I think that is because I do not understand APRS at all. Can you make another video (maybe with a chart I can see) to explain how all this APRS stuff works together? I have APRS in my radio but I can't use it because I don't know how. I did not know it could help me find other stations out there. My understand of radio is very basic.
I frequently monitor .520 from my home office and I don't think a day goes by that I don't hear traffic on the frequency. Maybe that's just a local thing though and not widely used??
It is certainly a local thing. I regularly hear traffic on 52 in my area of Middle Tennessee. Also, Huntsville, AL has a VERY active 52 crowd. Never been through that area that I didn't hear 52 being used.
My aprs channel is muted so I don't hear the packets. I wouldn't hear any voice traffic either. Can't have both I guess.
You should still hear the voice traffic assuming they are using the correct tone.
I use this all the time and rarely hear another beacon. Very few people are using this. Perhaps this will change.
We used to have those oval white stickers like EU countries that said "146.52"
I still have one of those stickers on my Jeep :-)
I will listen to 146.520
I don't monitor 146.52 on a drive simply because anyone would have to be super close for you to pick them up or you to get out to them. Especially since so many are on HTs. The range ain't exactly very far.
You might be surprised. I have had a few lengthy QSOs on 52 because we were traveling in the same direction on the interstate.
I had the same experience of 0 contacts monitoring as well calling out on .520 from a trip from NE to MN as well connecting to local repeaters on the way.
Also what BNC adapter are you using on your D75?
Give voice alert a try
@@KM4ACK
What BNC adapter are you using on your D75?
So a uv5r will not work 😢
Sure it will. Put it on 144.390 with tone squelch of 100. You will hear others running voice alert if they are within simplex range of you.
you need a baofeng sir
I do this on a basic dual band FTM-6000R. Got the idea from an older video from Jason I believe. I have made zero contacts but heard many packets with the 100hz tone! I call and invite them to join them on 146.52. Now I have hope that someone else might do the same. I talked to a long distance trucker once who told me he has made many contacts across the country using this VA technique.
Or he could use the ID-50 with 145.67 DV and wait for a beep of another dstar user nearby with callsign/name/location displayed on the screen and respond ;-)
I’m new to dstar and have the ID-50. Can you explain this?
@@willpierce4702 I was joking to some level being Mike/K8MRD loves to bash APRS. icom/dstar radios do something similar that is called DPRS and you can set the radio to beacon your location every so many seconds just like APRS. It's just an all digital packet that can also include audio. 145.67DV is the unofficial simplex call for d-star digital modes over the FM 146.520 equivalent. This works on any dstar capable radio with gps. Unless you disable it the other users call info will pop up on your screen with a beep, at least on the icom radios. Kenwood probably has similar just haven't used one to know for sure.
Will this beep happen on older DStar radios? I have an ID-880H. I have an older ICOM HT whose model number escapes me.
LOL MUPPET
In my car I have a cheap little qyt. This is my 17 yr old daughter’s car if she ever decides to get her license. Always monitor local club repeater and 520 never anything ever on 520
I have this feature turned on with my FTM-300 in my ride. I was surprised to see that it does work well. 146.520 is pretty active in my area but it's nice to know that there is another way to make contacts. But hey, what's that again about APRS being useless?
Mike's a good guy......just wrong about APRS :-)
If everybody is listening and nobody is calling then nobody will hear anything.
Your setup is not recommended IF you use the CTCSS on the APRS signal, as ALL receivers will open up and broadcast the APRS audio signal. This will end up with people leaving the APRS frequency due to regualer "noise". I would rather like to see all APRS signals WITHOUT CTCSS, you would anyways see that there is traffic on your display, and ONLY use CTCSS WHEN you actually want to send a voice message to other stations. So, using my method (which has been proved over many years) will only open the radio (squelch) when there is voice traffic, and not APRS beacons / traffic. 73s from Norway
I took the info direct from the creator of APRS, Bruninga, WB4APR/sk. You can read his documentation at www.aprs.org/VoiceAlert3.html The only time it opens the squelch is if you are within simplex range of the other station. The tone won't pass through a digipeater.
Why would I want to run APRS? It just tells everyone listening that I'm not home and they can break in th my house undetected. Sounds like a stupid idea.
Sounds like you need to invest in better protection for you home.
Or move to a safe residence
MRD can do it..😂
Blahahah haha
Why make it so complicated?
Seriously? Now you release this video. I literally just got home from a long drive this week from Ohio to Florida and back… monitoring 52. 😢🤷♂️ 🤣
Location location location
*Hambation
You might have had better luck on Channel 19! 😂
Terreble idea .. Leave the APSR freq alone.
This idea was introduced by the man who created APRS.
@KM4ACK "the msn" 🤣
All guys talk about on radio is the weather (often they are in the same area so it's silly), their elevation, and the antenna they set up 4 months prior. It's boring and all information that is readily available elsewhere these days. Then there's the majority of HAMs who are downright rude and entitled to anyone that hasn't been around HAMs for decades. Being licensed is a huge security risk too. Everytime you say your license you're telling everyone where you live. the younger folks understand this more than old guys. No one even cares about licenses anyways.
You're missing the chats on 7.200.
Majority? Troll much?
7.200 now that is some crazy stuff there.
That was as clear as mud
Maybe the documentation is more clear www.aprs.org/VoiceAlert3.html
All you have to do on any radio is tune to 144.390, and set it to CTCSS Encode and Decode, with a tone of 100. Doesn't matter if your radio does APRS or not. If there's a ham transmitting APRS beacons (or voice) with a 100hz tone who is in range, you'll hear him and he'll hear you when you transmit back. Essentially all you are doing is monitoring 144.390 instead of 146.520. Most APRS-capable radios will still decode APRS packets even if they aren't sent with a 100Hz tone and your radio has CTCSS Decode enabled.
APRS sucks and is stupid.
And who drives around with voice alert APRS while driving? Less than your 1 contact. Zero.
APRS is still dumb and still sucks.
I've never heard anyone on 146.52 ever. not even once. in several years of trying.
I have it set as my priority “home” on my FTM-6000 in my truck. I hear someone else about once a week in a 45 min commute to STL and back. Now if I call out each way on 146.52 I’ll get at least one new person a week. Lots of locals hear me and ignore since they know I’m looking for new contacts. Every now and then one of my local ham friends will get back to me and we will jump to another simplex frequency.
Seems like fishing. I can watch guys land fish after fish yet I go a month without a bite.
That's unfortunate , around buffalo NY it's active . A lot of other 2 meter simplex activity as well.