Flamenco Dance and Indian dance - Flamenco India - Roma/Gypsy concert - Oliver Rajamani and Ensemble
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Rajamani performs an original composition of his own, blending Indian and flamenco musical styles the Rajamani way. One can see the origins of the Roma and their history as well as the roots of flamenco dance coming from India. Rajamani and the Indian vocalist Nagavalli Medicharla sing a deeply spiritual poem of Meera (a Princess of Rajasthan India). The Indian dancer is Reetu Jain and the Flamenco dancer is Olivia Chacon.
According to Rajamani, this is immigrant music of the modern-day Indian as of the immigrant music of the Roma of old, being reinvented and interpreted. It is different from the fusion music of flamenco and Indian music and dance which is so commonly done with analytical percision today by many artists who are simply well versed in their traditions through years of rigorous training. This is not fusion music. This is an ongoing journey of music,lifestyle and tradition which has a common thread of history and culture.
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So much of similarities between songs, dances, and turns and flips. It's already been proved you Roma people are our indian origin brothers. ❤️🇮🇳
ITS SIMILAR BECAUSE FLAMENCO WAS BROUGHT TO SPAIN BY INDIAN ROMANI GYPSY FROM RAJAHSTAN.
Flamenco has its roots in Indian dance
@RORIK Europeans came from Africa through
the Near East just like Indians.
Arab dance
Angyliv way more Indian ... the hand movement and poses say it all
@@angyliv8040 did you run out of the mental ward?? do you feel lower uglier stupider than usual. India is the one with all inventions of Sitar Guitar Almost all every musical instruments and dance origins from tHOUSANDSS of years ago comes from India which Indian origin called gypsies a slur or proper name the Roma took to middle east north Africa and Europe. Arabs do not have dances much nor did jews but it was transferred there and arabs jews adopted indian dances which are very diverse and many many different types. and Flamenco rumba Belly dance its as Indian as it gets and there is nothing arab nor any kind of middle eastern so called about it. all the original belly dancers their clothes are Ancient really really old indian glamour and pants harem pants are ancient India folk clothes even which others copied. India is land of knowledge great oldest civilization, arts architecture , beauty clothes foods its riches culture in the world along with ancient certain central Asia also. if you want to be brainwashed because you look like and are a fool that is your problem but don't be an irritating trash troll here. this is for civilized cultured people and NOT your crap. you can claim pilaf is European or mid eastern its ANCIENT indian food loads of your European words human like ways your ancient ancestors learned from Indians thousands thousands of years ago.
Even the sumerians were not Hebrew nor arab not even Semitic. the Sumers are of Todays Indian certain states the Sumras, Sumeros Sumaras. the Sumerians and Indus Cilivilization peoples lived also in those days Mesopotamia parts of turkey (the indo aryan Hittites) Indo aryans are Indians not some garbage Nazi who stole the indian ancient so called swastizka used it for ugly inferior racist so called symbol. and Indians lived in parts of Caucasus all over central Asian regions or northwest todays china afganistan the indian subcontinent parts of south east Asian and also parts of Ukraine they then went to parts of Isreal spain and other parts of Europe and even parts of Siberia. so ignoramous don't embarrass expose your pathetic lunatic self here imbicile fooled fool
@@ayesha2963 that's what he is saying. And lessen your abusive language. It is not necessary
Hauntingly beautiful, the power of common roots being discovered, reuniting peoples split apart almost a thousand years ago! Thank you so much for this!!
Brilliant choreography to show the similarity and the sharing of gypsy roots. Beautiful music too. Congrats and thanks for sharing.
In this video the Indian dance is more refined and expressive while the Flamenco dance is blunt, but has still retained the elements of Indian root. Flamenco is so passive aggressive and beautiful.
Aggression because its a fusion of kathak and tandav dance form of india
Flamenco to me is an expression of repressed art rtrying to resist and burst.
Indian dance here is the refined calm poise of a free roaming wild horse, flamenco is the same horse captured and repressed wildly trying to free itself.
The repression is understandable if seen historically that the gypsies were discriminated and mistreated and relegated to enslavement or banishment from to their land of origin in music appreciating india to music repressing abrahamic faith lands of muslim and Christian Nations.
100%correct connection with india
Flamenco has roots from India. The gypsies came from India.
Cultural fusion is great, cultural appropiation it is not.
The Romani community is all over Europe. Hungary, Bulgary and Romania are the countries with the highest percentage of romani population in Europe, much higher than Spain (
this is so cool...flamenco originated from kathak dance.
This is the most beautiful blend of Indian with flamenco i have seen. It is neither indian nor flamenco but a new sound and blend of its own. Full of beauty and passion of the divine. Truely can see the various forms of Indian dance and music having deeply influenced the birth of flamenco. Though traditional flamenco is beautiful it is Great to finally hear and see flamenco done with originality rather than the same old rhythms, dances and constant aggressive passion. Thank you
Started in India, traveling through Egypt until settlement in Spanish land
The Kathak from 🇮🇳 - similarly with the Flemings ( Romani / gipsy ) from Europe who originated from 🇮🇳 - has many commonality like some words, mode of worship etc.
There were many invasions by Turks, Moguls, etc who were converting peoples to Islam by force so to avoid this, peoples started migrating towards west, Middle East,central Asia, Russia and Europe and even to the American Continent.
No , they did not migrate because of Moguls . These people were taken as Slaves. People who would clean the shit at their palaces and clean the streets. Some may had other skills too. That is why these people became gypsies roaming from one place to another once those Empires collapsed , cloud no adjust to modern way of life. Mostly were untouchables by caste.
Muito lindo ouvir a cultura indiana e me traz uma felicidade enorme saber como a India tem tanta beleza na arte.
BOTH THE WOMEN DANCED SO WELL 👌👌THE BEST THING THAT IS TO BE NOTICED IS THE UNITY AMONG BOTH OF THEM. DOESN'T MATTER WHICH COUNTRY THEY BELONG TO. BOTH PRESENTED THEIR DANCE FORM SO BEAUTIFULLY 😊🤩
Same Romany/Gypsy roots
This gave me chills and at one point even brought tears to my eyes. Thank you SO MUCH for sharing it. It's just one more bit of proof positive that beauty, music, dance and art know no boundaries. ♥ ♥ ♥
I actually applauded when this was over. That's how good it was!
Fantastic video. No man is an island, nothing stands alone and everything is connected. Beautiful.
Desde Barcelona 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏bravo! Felicidades muy bien todos! 💕
Nice music composition. As I can recognise indian dancer uses technic of Kuchipudi? Altough costume is more like for kathak...but it matches in this fusion and looking for similarities between flamenco and indian style of dance. I'm kathak dancer and did fusion with flamenco as well, really like this work.
flamenco is largely influenced by romani (gypsies) who had their origin in Rajasthan.
feels like this is just the beginning of a new birth of music
Awesome convergence of Music, Dance, History and Anthropology.
dramatic, both in execution and guitar. thanks 4 posting juggaba snow. I am Gitano, and I know. Oliver Rajamani (hmmm,a trace of the raja within your lineage, perhaps?) Blessings from Samarqand.
very good performance by all dancers and musicians. very good effort to s how the similarities.
NO SE PERDERÁ UNA RAZA TAN FUERTE. SU AMOR A LA LIBERTAD Y A LA MUSICA, LES HACE IMPERECEDEROS.
My life....
is now complete.
Flamenco dance and Indian Dance
Thank You
We know the roots of Flamenco are Rahashtani and it feels so close to home as Mexican.
Beautiful. How a original dance form can mutate into spiritual and sensual firms.
This is beautiful graceful fusion of ancient culture and a good example of your culture. Thank you for sharing your art.
the roma visited chandigarh and delhi bfr that at indira gandhi's invite.they were so touched and happy. they danced!!
Beautiful, stylistic, understated with a brilliant narrative; I love this.
indian dance is known as kathak in this video.. it was the dance that was performed in temples and it depicts lord krishna and radha rani's tales as kathak means kath=story ak= teller.. and when the mughals invaded india , kathak became a court dance with a lil of its mughal's touch.. as there are two kinds of kathak , hindu kathak and mughali kathak! but there is not much difference between both so it is simply known as kathak!
Do not romanticize the violation of our culture by using the phrases like "mughal's touch".
Flamenco is fusion of tandav and kathak there is no touch of mugal
What mughal touch? Just making changes to suit mughal court instead of temples. Like replacing pranam with salami, more focus on shringar than bhakti, making it more showy etc.
Mughal dance is called as mujra which developed after kathak its dance of prostitute, kathak is temple dance
ROMANI PUNJAB INDIAN GYPSIES FROM RAJAHSTAN BROUGHT FLAMENCO TO SPAIN(ROMA)
Romani people bring flamenco dance to West, who r actually slaves send to west
Beautiful Indian Dance ♥️🚩
Magnifique merci ☺️
what is the name of the song that the woman starts singing at 1:33? someone please tell me I am in love with it! it's very beautiful and full of sweet melody
Hello the name of this song is
"Wake Up My Love"
The song is composed by Oliver Rajamani but the lyrics are taken from the poem of the Indian princess Mira who wrote spiritual love songs.
Wake up my darling with the flute
wake up my beloved
the night is over, morning has come
in every household doors are open
one can hear the cowheardess churning the curds
the jingling of bells
wake up lord it is already morning
the angels are standing at the doorstep
the cowboys are making noise
taking bread and butter in their hands
and so on the lyrics goes.........
@@oliverrajamani ¿es posible encontrar la canción? no la pude encontrar.. gracias!
This sounds like a morning wakeup song fir north induans, kind of like suprabatham is for South Indians.
Song - ruclips.net/video/0POCfxKeYpw/видео.html
Kathak also has very important foot works and turns, this was more like refined version of kathak and flamenco is much more refined with slight aggressive than graceful dance
thanksss! wonderfully similiar! the words too. and the end is fantastic as is the entire composition!!
the roma visited chandigarh and delhi bfr that at indira gandhi's invite.they were so touched and happy. they danced!!
wonderful some of my fam are roma and i try to incoapte into my dancing
THANK YOU MY BROTHER, RAJAMANI FOR SHARING THIS KNOWLEDGE OF THE ROOTS OF FLAMENCO MUSIC AND SINGING WHICH ORIGINATED IN OUR BELOVED INDIA. I AM INDEED VERY PROUD OF YOU. I ALSO LOVE SPANISH MUSIC AND SING ROMANTIC BOLEROS AND HAVE A GUT FEELING OF MY BEING IN SPAIN BEFORE AND AMONGST THESE GYPSY PEOPLE. EVEN IN FINLAND, I FELT THAT CONNECTION WITH THE ROMA PEOPLE THERE.
hariradhamadray
Is there a recorded version of this track I can purchase? I'm besotted with it :)
Anyone please inform
Es precioso!!!! Me pregunto ¿Es casualidad este parecido o los gitanos de España son originarios de India?
Los gitanos vienen de la india. Pero el flamenco (danza) tiene origen árabe mezclado con la cultura ibera. Una mezcla de culturas. Lo han hecho coincidir en coreografía.
@Angyliv Te equivocas, el flamenco no nació en España y menos en Andalucia lo que trajeron los árabes que esta documentado se llaman moaxajas y jarchas nacidas en el siglo IX y XI, el Flamenco es solo gitano porque uno de los grupos se les creyo naturales de Flandes por su gentilicio de flamencos, más de la mitad de este grupo avanzo hacia el Sur llevandose su gentilicio por eso al acento gitano se le llamo flamenco, como a su voz flamenco, bailes flamencos, trajes de flamenco, toque flamenco, ect....., asi fue como llego esta palabra a Andalucia por el nombre que portaban.
El flamenco no es una creo en España que por eso todos los payos de españa no son flamencos ni los arabes expulsados fueron conocidos flamencos en el mundo ¿podrias dejar de ser ya de una vez por todas tan antigitanos?
@@angyliv8040 Show me an Arab dance that closely resembles Flamenco like Indian dance does. Flamenco originated in North-West India and I'm afraid it's a fact you cannot change no matter how hard you try.
El flamenco (danza) tiene origen de la India.
@@adirnwkfbeikrjfkae4428 Pero que dices, si el flamenco solo fuese gitano entonces en Europa habría bailes más parecidos al flamenco ya que gitanos hay en todas partes y además los bailes de la India serían mucho más parecidos al mismo, pero sin embargo son distintos. El flamenco cómo cosa es español, ya que en su día el baile introducido por los gitanos no era flamenco, sino su baile regional que practicaban en la India, el cuál derivo en otros bailes al igual que el flamenco ya que este al estar expuesto a nuestra cultura + la de otros evolucionó, siendo hoy en día conocido como flamenco.
Maravilloso
Oliver is a genius.
Maravilloso, me ha encantado tanto la estética del baile como la música. Alguien sabe si está editado en DVD? Gracias
Wonderful, I loved the aesthetics of both dance and music. Anyone know if it is released on DVD? Thanks
Yes please
Se especula que los gitanos originaron desde India. Creo yo, personalmente, que los bailes son la mejor evidencia de esto.
Beautiful comparison.👌👍 Originating in Rajasthan, kalbeliya or lambada dance is a captivating art form that blends Indian and Gypsy influences, showcasing intricate footwork, storytelling, and passionate expression. The Lambada ( Roma) Gypsy tribe's vibrant traditions have significantly shaped and preserved flamenco as we know it today, captivating audiences worldwide with its rhythmic beats, graceful movements, and powerful expressions.
se podria decir que las canciones indues se pueden comparar con la guitarra flamenca sobretodo en los ritmos rapidos pero extrañamente tienen algo parecido y se pueden adecuar de manera armonica.
This is a dance performed by the Gopika girls for Krishna !!
Nice Oliver. Very nice. We must talk about a program of this quality here in NY.
👍👍👍👍👍🙏❤Wonderful dance
awsome blending.........eternal connection
They are such a good match ,equally proficient in their forms. Hope this gets more views & likes.Bravo!
I love this fusion! Another band I enjoy is Indialucia
Cross-pollination 🐝
This ‘Indian’ dance looks like a cheap stereotype… I’m not sure what style that dancer is trying to imitate (Kathak maybe?) but the lack of study is blatant to any discerning eye.
Bellísimoo!! Me gustó mucho, gracias.
Me encanta :D
Beauty of Hinduism ♥️
Very nice thank you,,,,,you guitar playing is great inspiration
C'est typique et pour moi ça a des parfums de nostalgie ! Toute mon enfance dans ce pays magnifique et mystérieux.!.
Qué bello.. ¿alguien sabe el nombre de esta canción? Gracias
Thumbs up and all ★★★★★★★ for you. I enjoyed it ♥ ♥ ♥
God performance!
when anyone sees ATS or fatchancebellydance Belly dancing, It is a combination of both beautiful artistry, the gypsies=Roma all mixed cultures they picked up as they mixed themselves but have roots to India,
Nice
fantastic combination
amazing
Who is the flamenco dancer here and where was this concert?
Illucinante. Gracias! Que belleza.
Duddddddeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
absolutely STUNNING
ESTA PRECIOSO ME ENCANTA FELICIDADES os quiero dedicar nuestro POEMA A MIGUEL DE LOS REYES grupo flamenco ALEGRIA DE MI TIERRA saludos ALFONSO ALEGRIA ESPAÑA
Flamco dance arabe berber nord afrecaine
I am so loving this!
This is how the evolution works.
My amazing culture!
Bravo Oliver Rajamani.
Amazziing music rajamani sir..
This is what i want to do...
Great performance
Beautiful and lively indeed....
beautiful
Beautiful!!!!
Lovely.
Very beautiful! I am impressed! Greetings from Riga, Latvia 🇱🇻 😍👍
Que te parese un rasta cubano tocando bajo , ha , estoy bromiando pero es buena idea mi hermano afrocubanspanishbrasiliindia styles .
That was so fucking awesome :) Great Idea !!!!
Beautiful !
East meets West, again...
Surreal!!!!
I think more than kathak the dance by gypsy makes a perfect example
Oliver Rajamani is doing a very nice thing.
Rajastán (India), Egipto, Península Celtibérica=Flamenco!!!
No.. esto no tiene nada Que ver con egipto o gente arabe
Both dances are so similar.
beautiful sync of East N west
congrats keep doing
Ah yes snake dance to make Shiva happy
Bcs they come from the same place
Whats the name of the song?
we are
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Flamenco
Dancer were
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Is the Indian Goddess with many arms perhaps depicting this kind of dancing with the flowing arm and hand movements?
Nope!Both are mutually exclusive.The goddess “Durga” at fundamental level is a fierce depiction of feminine energy against the evil demon with multiple hands showing her ability to wield multiple weapons.The classical dancing stems separately from the work of our ancient Indian sage Bharat Muni who wrote his musical treatise on dramaturgy and histrionics around 200 BCE
So much similarity!
Guessing the raga?
Todo el mundo intenta buscar el origen del flamenco. Unos dicen que viene de la India, otros de Egipto, del Magreb, de los cánticos Sefarditas, del romaní, del caló, de los antiguos pobladores del sur de España, etc...
Creo que todos tienen razón y todos se equivocan. El flamenco no es egipcio, indio, gitano, sefardí, magrebí, ¡no! El flamenco es más que eso! Es la suma de todos ellos. El flamenco es fusión. Es la música de Andalucía, nació al entrar en contacto con el sur de España, lugar de encuentro de todas esas culturas. Lleva su alma.
Me río cuando dicen que el flamenco es la música de los gitanos.
En la mayoría de las naciones europeas hay gitanos, ¿en cuántas se canta y baila flamenco?
Si no es cierto lo que digo, ¿por qué sólo se da en Andalucía? ¿Por qué no se ha podido trasladar a ninguno de los países que fueron parte del imperio español?. Se llevó la arquitectura, el idioma, las costumbres, las fiestas, la gastronomía, las creencias religiosas, etc...todo menos el flamenco.
¿Por qué?
Porque al igual que el flamenco, Andalucía sólo hay una.
Oleeeeeeee
Hi Andando
thks for laughing it is good for health and well being but hopefully you can also laugh at your own mind and observe it also for this makes one more wise it is said. Yes the art we call today as flamenco was born in Spain-Andalusian, but all things change and if one can stay in the present moment of the journey you can be with the unchanging music that is divine beyond time and space.
Flamenco came together in Andalusia but has strong roots in India via Romani genetics. Rajamani's flamenco India music is to enhance the Indianness of flamenco and to educate and create from a divine place.
The experience of the artform we call today as " Gypsy flamenco" was lived as a therapeutic ritual by the Gypsies who experienced persecution at the hands of the Spaniards when "Gypsy flamenco" was not in fashion. The Roma have also experienced persecution by other ethnic groups such as Middle Eastern cultures and other Europeans. "Gypsy Flamenco" is not just a cultural or national identity for the Romani people but it is a spiritual ritual and therapy that goes beyond land, nationality and more thus making it truely a Spiritual Gypsy musical experience of Spain.
True creativity is spiritual with divine awareness and does not belong to anyone but we must certainly not forget to give respect and credit in whatever way to the artist.
Everything in this world is a creation of many factors coming together and the one who can make spiritual magic in this union is blessed.
thanks for your comments and listening to the music. Good luck
Que el flamenco es de Andalucia, y que sólo se canta en el sur es una mentira muy muy grande! quien se ríe de ti soy yo, todos los gitanos de cada parte de España, tanto del norte como de la costa, somos iguales de flamencos que cualquier gitano Andaluz! si el flamenco fuese del sur, solo cantarían flamenco los gitanos Andaluces y ese no es el caso...porque todos saben perfectamente que cada gitano es flamenco y lo llevamos en los genes.. deja de decir tonterías, Anda. nuestra cultura, nuestras bodas, sabes cuanto dura? 3 días..de lo mas flamenco que te puedas encontrar! para tu información, y no hables antes de nada.. los gitanos de Francia, Portugal, Turquía, son flamencos a rabiar.. y si no me crees busca y lo veras.. y ni si quiera son Españoles.. como me puede ser esto, si según tu el flamenco es Andaluz? el flamenco no es ninguna mezcla, ni es de origen Árabe! ni andaluz.. si fuera árabe como dicen algunos, como es que no existe ni hay árabes que canten flamenco? porque sólo son mentiras que OS inventais por racismo y egoísmo. Andalucia, sólo ha tenido cuatro como mucho cinco cantaores payos.. los demás, copleros y de sevillanas, y eso no tiene nada que ver con el flamenco.. el flamenco nació entre gitanos, por mucho que te duela es la realidad! hasta en la india se ha encontrado cosas muy parecidas! su rasgo su acento es de la etnia gitana...y lo sabes muy bien
¿Pretendes decirme que todos los gitanos del mundo son flamencos? Creo que tu orgullo te impide ver la realidad. Estas fantaseando.
Andando Siempre Solo No, no estoy fantaseando.. quien fantasea, intentando no admitir la realidad eres tu.. Oliver rajamani, es de la tierra gitana, ( la india) de donde era nuestros antepasados. y ta ves en este vídeo, tocando flamenco, ves? como viéndolo no lo quieres ver? busca, gitanos de Francia Portugal, Turquía, y ta veras que te salen cantando flamenco puro.. si mintiera, no te diría que lo búsques" o pasate por mi canal..esto demuestra que es un arte de los gitanos y no de Andalucia, que mal te vas a quedar...busca te lo recomiendo...el flamenco es gitano, aunque te duela!!!
El flamenco y el indou esta muy parisido in la manera de bailar los gitanos vamos estao mas de mil anos in la india antes de estar in espagna