+Lazy Game Reviews Cool! Some source included! It looks like the machine was hooked to the COM2 port, which is hard coded with interrupt 0x2f8. kind of... bad idea... no config file. and there's a scary comment that kind of says they "hope" it works. this makes me laugh so hard knowing that this thing was used to send CNC data files to a machine that's worth in the 100 000$, and they have to recompile the thing whenever there's change in the pc hardware, which we'll agree did not happen often in the days before PnP but STILL. Incredible ;) The data files are probably generated with another software.
You can write the CNC programs in notepad. That's what I did when I wrote cnc programs. The machine itself couldnt hold more than a few programs so you had to use a computer like this as storage. Even if the hard drive was only 15 megs it would be plenty because a cnc file would hardly take up a kB most of the time. I think the machine I mostly ran had 4 or 8 program slots in it.
I noticed the SCORBOT directory. That was software used to control a robotic arm, often used in industry and higher education for robotics training. They still make Scorbots today, except now they're controlled through weenie modern USB ports.
*More info on the MFM hard drive:* Many PS/2 Model 60/80 machines used ESDI drives instead of MFM, but that is not the case here! Looking on the sticker you'll see IBM P/N 6373507, which is a Seagate ST-4053 MFM hard drive. There were also cards like the 90X6768 that supported MFM drives on MCA hardware.
LGR this makes me so happy to see I’ve been following for a while but just now seeing it I just recently got a IBM ThinkCentre and this just makes me happy
These 1980s IBM ps2 models were a one type fixed design. You couldn't just swap in a normal 3.5 ide hard drive from a AT pc. I remember working on these back in early 90s. Very complex and one off design for sure. Stock up on these now because parts are getting more and more scarce. Thx for sharing this!
I've used an old machine for CNC work before, and it's great. IT wasn't neaerly as old as this thing, but it's pretty much the same. G0 X1.2 Y3.3 Such memories!
You can get a similar experience using a more modern server chassis, I think. I got a server-type tower made by Chenbro a while back, and the fans in that thing are LOUD by modern standards. I actually ended up swapping them out, they were so bad.
Hey man I absolutely adore these videos, keep them up. I can't say there are many people on RUclips who get me on the edge of my seat watching things like this as you do.
Man, that's seriously the coolest thing I've seen in a whlie. I was smiling throughout the video. If someone had shown me that hard drive and told me it's an electric coffee grinder or something, I probably would've believed it.
Wow, that is a beautiful piece of older tech. Even though I know it is now outclassed by anything that has been on the market for years, I still can recognize a beast when I see one.
My school had some of the EduQuest Model 40 machines (basically a one-piece PS/2 Model 40 sold directly to schools), and I do remember the floppy mechanism on them just being nicer than average. Other machines would load a disk with a pretty serious "thud", but the PS/2 would accept it with more of a "snik". And the heads had a minimum of gronk-gronk to them, mostly you were just treated to the whisper of the disk media spinning against the padding inside the disk.
Clint, you're such an awesome dude! Watching your videos gives me the warm feeling of knowing that not all the people in USA are braindead, and because of geeks like you there's still hope for your nation!
Another nice one. Man, your videos were an inspiration to build my '97 dream machine. I didn't feel the need to go all the way back to DOS machines, but I do have a soft spot for my first proper computer running on Windows 95/98 wit h3dfx VooDoo card. So I have built a super beefed up version of that computer that I couldn't afford back then and now I'm re-living the dream :P Pentium 3 @450MHz 64 MB RAM 3dfx VooDoo 3 3000 (brand new!) SounBlaster 128 PCi with the awesome 8MB wavetable (that the card that I had originally). A good PC for both DOS and Windows games from mid-90's (where my nostalgia hits the hardest). If I had this machine back in 1997 I would be in heaven, but a PC with half that power had to suffice up until 2001. Thanks again for the inspiration, Clint!
Around 1988-89 I was at a local college where the art professor had a PS/2 Model 60 in his office with a HUGE 4MB MCA memory card, 8514/A Graphics and monitor and a big IBM Postscript laser printer. Windows 2.1 was installed! I learned a lot about editing WIN.INI files by hand to get Aldus PageMaker *AND* Adobe Illustrator to *BOTH* print to the same printer with the same driver. I also learned a lot about finding the right memory drivers so that software could actually use that fancy MCA memory board. Apparently the professor had friends, high up at IBM and they couldn't find the drivers to make the memory work. One day I found the original disks that came with the machine. There were the drivers... Suddenly, you could use high-res 256 colors in Electronic Art's Deluxe Paint. I credit my extensive work with Amiga computers for the problem-solving skills. :)
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The startup - AH, MEMORIES. I visited a few server halls when I was a kid and I remember specifically one time I visited Volvo and needed ear protectors! I needed that trip today, thanks.
Really nice machine. I had a model 60 myself back in the mid-90s when I was a teenager. It had the same configuration as your except for the hard drive being an 80MB ESDI drive. I traded a Tandy 1100FD laptop for it and got the machine along with a model M and 8512 monochrome display monitor and an external tape drive. The man was a manager for the old Waldenbooks chain of bookstores and they had upgraded to new hardware. They let him have the model 60. I remember having to deal with the battery issue one year after I had the machine. Since the CMOS setup was not stored on ROM, I remember my parents taking me to a local computer store to acquire a copy of the IBM Reference Diskette needed to give the machine its date, time, and config data back.
+JimPlaysGames Welcome to the late 80's man. Anyone who lived during that time has a bit of a love/hate relationship with the technology. Nothing as amazing as a solid IBM PC...but at the same time I'm not willing to give up my Lenovo Think products now.
The title of this video brings joy to many of us. PS/2 IBM computers were built to last. Love the quality of those machines and it's always good to see one functioning 100%. The granddaddies of modern PCs. Love the design language, the mouse is amazing and that power button that's just awesome. The blue eject button on the floppy drive, it even has 1.44 in white lettering on it. The slanted angles.
Great video! I enjoyed this immensely. I watched it twice so far and emailed it to all my geek friends. I'd never seen the inside the Model 60. Thanks.
That power switch is almost sexual in its operation. Every computer should have a big red switch on the front that looks and sounds like a breaker box switch, that is a world in which I would like to live.
0:58 Damn me, LGR. Can you just make one ASMR vid of computers, monitors, printers, whatever you have in there turning on, off and working. Only ASMR vid I'd ever crave.
I had one of these 286-12 mhz. My mom made me throw the case when i purchase my first Pentium, but i still have that IBM monitor in my storage room and still using the "King of Clicks" keyboard today! I love your machine.
Great to see the classics alive and well, especially when it can play Commander Keen: Goodbye Galaxy. That game was my childhood. I beat it more then 10 times back in the day and still played it. My uncle had a LOT of DOS games in his floppy disc containers and I had about 30 of them installed on my computer. He's a computer programmer so you can bet he had some great lunch breaks with all those DOS games, back then. I love your reviews of old computer stuff Clint. Keep up the great videos and fun.
Omg! Thanks so much for this Clint. I had this whole set up except the mouse back in the day. I remember it weighed a ton! I had to use a hand truck to get it up the stairs. LOL😝 What a blast from the past.
I had one of the later models back in the day after they were considered junk, and yes I swapped the SX33 with a DX2/66, maxed out the ram and filled it with as many drives as I could. What I created was a POS that also weighed a ton, but maaaaan was that thing cool in its way.
Years ago I had fond and assembled basically that same system with all those peripherals, only the tower was a Model 80, with the 386 cpu and a 387 co-processor. I found all that stuff on a trash-day after someone had cleaned out an abandoned, boarded-up house and all that PS/2 stuff and some more was all piled up in a heap on the sidewalk next to the trash cans, to be hauled away in a trash-truck. I dragged all that computer stuff home and sorted it out and got the Model 80 going ... it also had a card in one of it's MCA slots that had a 468 cpu socket and a couple of RAM slots, so that Model 80 was running as a 486 with a DX2 chip in that card's cpu socket. I tried a DX4 in it, but it made the system run erratically, so I kept the DX2 in that system and it ran great. I also eventually found a 14.4 K MCA modem and an IBM MCA sound card and it's driver programs that included all those 58 gazillion tiny .WAV files that each contained a single note from an actual recording of an actual musical instrument, and that thing played .MID files that literally sounded like actual live music instead of electronicky-sounding synthesized music. I eventually got that rig all fine-tuned and running IBM PC-DOS and IBM Windows 3.1 and it was totally awesome :-) You're not kidding ... those systems back in their day were insanely expensive. I dug through IBM's archives in their website and calculated that what I had found and assembled from a pile of discarded junk found on the sidewalk on trash-day into a working PS/2 system based on a Model 80 Tower, and the price tag for all the stuff inside that tower including the two 72 megabyte full-sized hard drives was $180,000.00... approximately... and that is in late-1980's prices!!... :-O
wow when you took the cover off and looked at the power supply i was shocked at the fact that molex has seemingly been around forever!! we still use it!!! thats insaine! its like the grandpa of end-user ports! not even the ps2 port has lasted this long with as much use!
Deja vu! I remember working at an office building where someone threw one of these away. That freakin' hard drive. Eagerly awaiting a video on the madness that was Micro-Channel Architecture!
I can't wait for the model 95 server video!! I remember when my dad was teaching me about computers back in 96-97 he started me on old acers with no hard drives and booting and using DOS, then up to a model 60 like this I think. I remember how huge the hard drive was in it and only like 15mb, then onto the 386/486 variants and stuff with Windows 3.1 and also 3.11 workstation and troubleshooting through DOS. Then he allowed me to use Windows 95 and up from there. I'm glad he went that route instead of straight to windows 95. Got a good base of knowledge through DOS. I could have sworn it was a model 60 but I do know it was in a very tall tower and had an incredibly physically huge hard drive
Once again LGR, once again you made me remember one game from my early childhood that was completely forgotten, crystal caves man, I used to play that game all the time so long ago, I might shed a tear or something...
I watched your first vid on the IBM lot. my dad used to programming for IBM's .when they got rid of the model 60 we had 34 of them at home for £1 go clear them. they are so well. built and tons of room inside for a modern PC build. if anyone has one and lives near Brighton in UK please let me know if love to have one again.
Love seeing (and hearing) this beast!! My first computer job around 95/96 was at a business only computer store and onsite service provider. We had rooms filled with these older pc's and servers. Most of them were too old back then and we would be upgrading and/or replacing them entirely with newer servers. Love those old 5 1/4 hard drives too, but I can't help but think of those awful Quantum Bigfoot drives that continued throughout the 90's.
"An event in unto itself! I think the room has more brighter!" -- this is gold Jerry. I mean for real, this guy deserves all the wealth ever for being so awesome. Hi!
+EikNachuiKRC "but why built a time machine out of an ibm ps/2?" "The way I see it, if you're going to built a time machine, you've gotta do it in style!"
My dad used to work with these PS/2 Models as an IT-Guy in the early 90s. Had to show him this video ;). Those machines were expensive as hell back in the day here in Switzerland.
I set one of these up to run some lab equipment back in the mid-90s. It was old then, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is still in use. It was a beast that just wouldn't die.
Man, hearing that thing power on and turn off gave me goosebumps, it's so satisfying. I wasn't even aware this stuff got my auditory rocks off... And man, knowing that you might've been screwed on that battery if people didn't still use cordless home phones upsets me. Once those are rendered positively obsolete or whatever, I can't see those batteries being manufactured nearly as much, or at all if not much else uses them. These computers, it seems, are destined for death at some point, and we're just prolonging the inevitable.
That is such a satisfying PC. The hum when it turns on takes me back to when I was 4 and my family got a Dell XPS with a Pentium 3. Not exactly old compared to a PS/2 with a 286, but it hummed just like one.
The fact that you found this near my area residence along with the rest of the lot mildly makes me jealous. I have been hunting for a Model M for years now.
Ahh great video, brings back memories.. we had one these beasts at home back in the day (and later on even a Model 80). I did my first steps of programming on this machine and also played games (like crystal caves and commander keen). Although i was kinda jealous about my friends having computer with a sound card :)
I'd love to overhaul one of those, with all that space inside it'd make for a beast of a gaming machine. Unassuming on the outside, beast on the inside.
I personally enjoy this type of causal, off the cuff, video just showing off an old system. It's very laid back and very fun at the same time. As for the computer, that's one beautiful looking beast you've got there. I've always liked IBM PS/2s but have always found the microchannel expansion slots to be frustrating since there aren't too many good sound cards you can add to it.
There's a stark beauty to these machines that nothing today exhibits....I remember my 286 from the early 90s: that professional business aesthetic...they had it down pat. I could look at them all day..
Damn near twenty years after I first switched on a computer (386 with Win 3.11, even came with Raptor, SimCity and I think Crystal Caves, since I know I played it somewhere) I still love the sound they make in the first few seconds after you flip the switch/press the button.
Dat start up and shut down sound....so nice. This was a bit before I got into computers. I think the first computer I had was a Pentium 3 Micron computer.
"Smooth sounding startup".. Yes you were holding the camera close to the chassi so ofc it was louder in the video than in actuality. But I found it ironic how you said that since for us, it sounded more like the world was about to explode. Not going to lie. I was terrified! D:
The inside of that thing is just beautiful. Everything exactly where it should be, no wirestrosity that needs entire other parts specifically to manage it. We gained alot when the industry opened up to more players, but we certainly lost elegance of design. Just imagine the nightmare of trying to build a modern gaming rig if one of your components needed a mounting device like that.
Floppy drive quietness is actually a feature of PC-DOS. Yes, those floppy drives are no doubt top-notch. But if you were to boot MS-DOS on that same machine, you'd probably notice more noise coming from that floppy drive on seek. It has something to do with the way PC-DOS moves the drive heads compared to MS-DOS. I believe PC-DOS instructs the floppy drives to move directly to a certain track, while MS-DOS steps to each track on it's way to the track it's looking for, making the drive noisier.
My very first PC was a Compaq Deskpro 286e with 1mb RAM that I got in 1994 (it was made around 1989 so it was already obsolete when I got it), I had Crystal Caves and Commander Keen on it so I'm used to the slow load times on your video, haha. One thing I was very proud of was when I got Wing Commander 2 to run on my 286 which came in 14 disks, it ran like a dog though but man I was blown away.
Great video and I love those old machines, especially the sound it makes starting up. The model M keyboard is something else again, those are GREAT keyboards. Where I work we deal with IBM's end of lease stuff and those keyboards show up once in a while so I use one at work (with a ThinkPad). At home I've got a new machine I built myself in my home office, it may have a i5 processor but it's also got a 1995 vintage Model M (which I'm typing on now).
That is one of the machines I found in regular service (well more or less: as a non networked standalone machine) when I started my job in 2000. Some other ones included a Macintosh Plus with PhoneNet ADB adapter and external hard disk, and a Macintosh SE used as a file server. In a closet I found a working recently decomissioned Apple IIc. In AD 2000.
Many years ago I actually was given an IBM 286 system identical to this case-wise - it was being thrown out by a TV station (scheduling and system control etc.) Except that it used SCSI raid 2 X30 Meg I believe, with a connector to an external box for two more drives. It had no software but (with difficulty) I was able to load DOS 5.0. Fascinating machine!
*For those wanting to poke around the CNC folder:*
Here's an archive of the files! archive.org/details/lgr-cnc-model60
+Lazy Game Reviews Cool! Some source included! It looks like the machine was hooked to the COM2 port, which is hard coded with interrupt 0x2f8. kind of... bad idea... no config file. and there's a scary comment that kind of says they "hope" it works. this makes me laugh so hard knowing that this thing was used to send CNC data files to a machine that's worth in the 100 000$, and they have to recompile the thing whenever there's change in the pc hardware, which we'll agree did not happen often in the days before PnP but STILL. Incredible ;)
The data files are probably generated with another software.
You can write the CNC programs in notepad. That's what I did when I wrote cnc programs. The machine itself couldnt hold more than a few programs so you had to use a computer like this as storage. Even if the hard drive was only 15 megs it would be plenty because a cnc file would hardly take up a kB most of the time. I think the machine I mostly ran had 4 or 8 program slots in it.
I noticed the SCORBOT directory. That was software used to control a robotic arm, often used in industry and higher education for robotics training. They still make Scorbots today, except now they're controlled through weenie modern USB ports.
Fascinating, thanks for the info!
pretty cool stuff!
I wonder if the arms would still accept the Inputs from thid version
(weeine)
*More info on the MFM hard drive:*
Many PS/2 Model 60/80 machines used ESDI drives instead of MFM, but that is not the case here!
Looking on the sticker you'll see IBM P/N 6373507, which is a Seagate ST-4053 MFM hard drive. There were also cards like the 90X6768 that supported MFM drives on MCA hardware.
+Lazy Game Reviews Very cool. I wish I can have that machine.
+Lazy Game Reviews I was just thinking about when you would follow up with your great haul the other day! Glad to see such a nice setup!
Dude, you could go surfing with this thing, it's so freakin' big!
+Lazy Game Reviews I have one question of this machine, I hope you can answer it. How many Watts do it use?
cool to see it alive . makes a lot of noise like me when I wake up
LGR this makes me so happy to see I’ve been following for a while but just now seeing it I just recently got a IBM ThinkCentre and this just makes me happy
"Hear this thing turn off."
*see's the note that reads "Please do not turn off"*
o.o
+multani82 Even the computer sounded like it was going "Nooooooooooooo...." :P
+Fuzy2K "Clinteyyyyy, Cliiiinteeyyyyyy..."
+multani82 *sees*
I'm pretty sure a server somewhere went down when Clint turned it off.
that is quite funny.
These 1980s IBM ps2 models were a one type fixed design. You couldn't just swap in a normal 3.5 ide hard drive from a AT pc. I remember working on these back in early 90s. Very complex and one off design for sure. Stock up on these now because parts are getting more and more scarce. Thx for sharing this!
I just picked up a model 57 and did not expect to find a 50 pin SCSI drive. Luckily SCSI to SD adapters are readily available!
I've used an old machine for CNC work before, and it's great. IT wasn't neaerly as old as this thing, but it's pretty much the same.
G0 X1.2 Y3.3
Such memories!
This was really cool to see - the modular PSU was epic!
And that massive number of expansion slots makes me a little too happy.
That switch and turn on/off sound was just plain awesome! It just screams power...even though it's so old.
What a BEAST of a machine!
Some company's servers probably died when he turned it off.
Ubisoft it's time for you to upgrade your damn servers!
Nah, that thing sounds way to reliable to be the uPlay server
+Jake Cobovic god died when he turned it off
You should record the turning off sound and use that at the end of your videos 😋
+dondon4720 That's actually a great idea :D Clint should totally do that, in combination with the turn on sound just before the intro :D
You can get a similar experience using a more modern server chassis, I think. I got a server-type tower made by Chenbro a while back, and the fans in that thing are LOUD by modern standards. I actually ended up swapping them out, they were so bad.
0:58 Fuck yeah, THAT'S what a proper computer sounds like.
Your enthusiasm for older technology is infectious!!! I love it!
The red huge power switch is pure authority
modern pc cases should have a big red switch like that, love it
0:56 getting ready for take-off!
Hey man I absolutely adore these videos, keep them up. I can't say there are many people on RUclips who get me on the edge of my seat watching things like this as you do.
Man, that's seriously the coolest thing I've seen in a whlie. I was smiling throughout the video. If someone had shown me that hard drive and told me it's an electric coffee grinder or something, I probably would've believed it.
My first PC was a LaserPal 286/16 from Sears :D
Nice! "The power package for the budget conscious" as their tagline went, hehe.
As a computer tech, i like seeing your reviews of old hardware. Keep 'em going!
That thing is honestly sexier than a few of my ex-girlfriends.
Thanks for all the great content! I'm sure I speak for many here when I say that you're keeping my inner child of the 80s alive and well.
This is absolutely incredible, dude. I really enjoyed the video, just showing off a machine really quick. Nice and simple, really chill.
Love the knowledge of the ancients on display.
Wow, that is a beautiful piece of older tech. Even though I know it is now outclassed by anything that has been on the market for years, I still can recognize a beast when I see one.
It sounded like a spaceship powering up when you turned it on.
My school had some of the EduQuest Model 40 machines (basically a one-piece PS/2 Model 40 sold directly to schools), and I do remember the floppy mechanism on them just being nicer than average. Other machines would load a disk with a pretty serious "thud", but the PS/2 would accept it with more of a "snik". And the heads had a minimum of gronk-gronk to them, mostly you were just treated to the whisper of the disk media spinning against the padding inside the disk.
I love this video! PC gaming and the PS/2 series don't usually go together, so I'm pleased as punch to see PS/2 stuff on your channel, of all places.
I really like your recent videos! Keep coming with new oldies!
Congrats on getting it working! The sound of this thing powering on and off is REALLY satisfying.
Clint, you're such an awesome dude! Watching your videos gives me the warm feeling of knowing that not all the people in USA are braindead, and because of geeks like you there's still hope for your nation!
Another nice one. Man, your videos were an inspiration to build my '97 dream machine. I didn't feel the need to go all the way back to DOS machines, but I do have a soft spot for my first proper computer running on Windows 95/98 wit h3dfx VooDoo card. So I have built a super beefed up version of that computer that I couldn't afford back then and now I'm re-living the dream :P
Pentium 3 @450MHz
64 MB RAM
3dfx VooDoo 3 3000 (brand new!)
SounBlaster 128 PCi with the awesome 8MB wavetable (that the card that I had originally).
A good PC for both DOS and Windows games from mid-90's (where my nostalgia hits the hardest). If I had this machine back in 1997 I would be in heaven, but a PC with half that power had to suffice up until 2001. Thanks again for the inspiration, Clint!
Around 1988-89 I was at a local college where the art professor had a PS/2 Model 60 in his office with a HUGE 4MB MCA memory card, 8514/A Graphics and monitor and a big IBM Postscript laser printer. Windows 2.1 was installed! I learned a lot about editing WIN.INI files by hand to get Aldus PageMaker *AND* Adobe Illustrator to *BOTH* print to the same printer with the same driver. I also learned a lot about finding the right memory drivers so that software could actually use that fancy MCA memory board. Apparently the professor had friends, high up at IBM and they couldn't find the drivers to make the memory work. One day I found the original disks that came with the machine. There were the drivers... Suddenly, you could use high-res 256 colors in Electronic Art's Deluxe Paint. I credit my extensive work with Amiga computers for the problem-solving skills. :)
The startup - AH, MEMORIES. I visited a few server halls when I was a kid and I remember specifically one time I visited Volvo and needed ear protectors!
I needed that trip today, thanks.
Really nice machine. I had a model 60 myself back in the mid-90s when I was a teenager. It had the same configuration as your except for the hard drive being an 80MB ESDI drive. I traded a Tandy 1100FD laptop for it and got the machine along with a model M and 8512 monochrome display monitor and an external tape drive. The man was a manager for the old Waldenbooks chain of bookstores and they had upgraded to new hardware. They let him have the model 60. I remember having to deal with the battery issue one year after I had the machine. Since the CMOS setup was not stored on ROM, I remember my parents taking me to a local computer store to acquire a copy of the IBM Reference Diskette needed to give the machine its date, time, and config data back.
Holy crap that giant thing is the hard drive? And the processor has no fan or heatsink? Dude. Strange things are afoot.
+JimPlaysGames with the insanely low frequencys the 286 chips ran at its no suprise realy.
+JimPlaysGames CPUs didn't need fans or heatsinks until the 486DX2 era.
+JimPlaysGames Welcome to the late 80's man.
Anyone who lived during that time has a bit of a love/hate relationship with the technology. Nothing as amazing as a solid IBM PC...but at the same time I'm not willing to give up my Lenovo Think products now.
Today:
44MB hard drives = 1cm x 2cm
+Can of Soda no, 128 gb micro sd-cards 1 cm * 1.3 cm or something like that
The title of this video brings joy to many of us. PS/2 IBM computers were built to last. Love the quality of those machines and it's always good to see one functioning 100%. The granddaddies of modern PCs.
Love the design language, the mouse is amazing and that power button that's just awesome. The blue eject button on the floppy drive, it even has 1.44 in white lettering on it. The slanted angles.
Great video! I enjoyed this immensely. I watched it twice so far and emailed it to all my geek friends. I'd never seen the inside the Model 60. Thanks.
That power switch is almost sexual in its operation. Every computer should have a big red switch on the front that looks and sounds like a breaker box switch, that is a world in which I would like to live.
0:58
Damn me, LGR. Can you just make one ASMR vid of computers, monitors, printers, whatever you have in there turning on, off and working. Only ASMR vid I'd ever crave.
Something I've considered, for sure!
+Lazy Game Reviews Do it entirely in your Duke Nukem voice!
+LittleNorwegians sounds like a ephemeral rift thing
+LittleNorwegians Yesss, and include the nice clunk of the power switch, too. The switch on this computer in particular sounds wonderful.
+Lazy Game Reviews Do it
I had one of these 286-12 mhz. My mom made me throw the case when i purchase my first Pentium, but i still have that IBM monitor in my storage room and still using the "King of Clicks" keyboard today!
I love your machine.
Great to see the classics alive and well, especially when it can play Commander Keen: Goodbye Galaxy. That game was my childhood. I beat it more then 10 times back in the day and still played it. My uncle had a LOT of DOS games in his floppy disc containers and I had about 30 of them installed on my computer. He's a computer programmer so you can bet he had some great lunch breaks with all those DOS games, back then.
I love your reviews of old computer stuff Clint. Keep up the great videos and fun.
Your casual reviews are every bit as awesome as your well-produced affairs.
Thank you!
That booting sound...takes me right back to kindergarten/1st grade. Thank you, Clint!*tears of happiness" ^^
Omg! Thanks so much for this Clint. I had this whole set up except the mouse back in the day. I remember it weighed a ton! I had to use a hand truck to get it up the stairs. LOL😝 What a blast from the past.
I had one of the later models back in the day after they were considered junk, and yes I swapped the SX33 with a DX2/66, maxed out the ram and filled it with as many drives as I could.
What I created was a POS that also weighed a ton, but maaaaan was that thing cool in its way.
That machine seems to be in absurdly good shape. I don't think I even remember machines I used in the 80s running that smooth,
Envy!
That is a sexy machine and it sounds terrific when it boots up.
So how is the Hot Wheels PC doing? I'd love to see a video on it when it's done!
I've got an update in the works, stay tuned!
Lazy Game Reviews
Awesome! Keep up the good work mate! I look forward to it
Years ago I had fond and assembled basically that same system with all those peripherals, only the tower was a Model 80, with the 386 cpu and a 387 co-processor. I found all that stuff on a trash-day after someone had cleaned out an abandoned, boarded-up house and all that PS/2 stuff and some more was all piled up in a heap on the sidewalk next to the trash cans, to be hauled away in a trash-truck. I dragged all that computer stuff home and sorted it out and got the Model 80 going ... it also had a card in one of it's MCA slots that had a 468 cpu socket and a couple of RAM slots, so that Model 80 was running as a 486 with a DX2 chip in that card's cpu socket. I tried a DX4 in it, but it made the system run erratically, so I kept the DX2 in that system and it ran great. I also eventually found a 14.4 K MCA modem and an IBM MCA sound card and it's driver programs that included all those 58 gazillion tiny .WAV files that each contained a single note from an actual recording of an actual musical instrument, and that thing played .MID files that literally sounded like actual live music instead of electronicky-sounding synthesized music. I eventually got that rig all fine-tuned and running IBM PC-DOS and IBM Windows 3.1 and it was totally awesome :-)
You're not kidding ... those systems back in their day were insanely expensive. I dug through IBM's archives in their website and calculated that what I had found and assembled from a pile of discarded junk found on the sidewalk on trash-day into a working PS/2 system based on a Model 80 Tower, and the price tag for all the stuff inside that tower including the two 72 megabyte full-sized hard drives was $180,000.00... approximately... and that is in late-1980's prices!!... :-O
I love seeing videos about old PCs like this. Can't wait to see more!
wow when you took the cover off and looked at the power supply i was shocked at the fact that molex has seemingly been around forever!! we still use it!!! thats insaine! its like the grandpa of end-user ports! not even the ps2 port has lasted this long with as much use!
Deja vu! I remember working at an office building where someone threw one of these away. That freakin' hard drive.
Eagerly awaiting a video on the madness that was Micro-Channel Architecture!
I can't wait for the model 95 server video!!
I remember when my dad was teaching me about computers back in 96-97 he started me on old acers with no hard drives and booting and using DOS, then up to a model 60 like this I think. I remember how huge the hard drive was in it and only like 15mb, then onto the 386/486 variants and stuff with Windows 3.1 and also 3.11 workstation and troubleshooting through DOS. Then he allowed me to use Windows 95 and up from there.
I'm glad he went that route instead of straight to windows 95. Got a good base of knowledge through DOS.
I could have sworn it was a model 60 but I do know it was in a very tall tower and had an incredibly physically huge hard drive
The sounds of the keystrokes, the flip of the switch, the machine turning on.. they sound so satisfying. Sweet jesus.
Once again LGR, once again you made me remember one game from my early childhood that was completely forgotten, crystal caves man, I used to play that game all the time so long ago, I might shed a tear or something...
I watched your first vid on the IBM lot. my dad used to programming for IBM's .when they got rid of the model 60 we had 34 of them at home for £1 go clear them. they are so well. built and tons of room inside for a modern PC build. if anyone has one and lives near Brighton in UK please let me know if love to have one again.
You can hear the love in his voice =)
Awesome machine! Very nice to see one, never saw the insides of this model before :)
Super cool! I would never have the combination of time, love, and resources for doing that myself, but i can watch this!
Love seeing (and hearing) this beast!! My first computer job around 95/96 was at a business only computer store and onsite service provider. We had rooms filled with these older pc's and servers. Most of them were too old back then and we would be upgrading and/or replacing them entirely with newer servers. Love those old 5 1/4 hard drives too, but I can't help but think of those awful Quantum Bigfoot drives that continued throughout the 90's.
Man I would love to record and capture all of these awesome sounds. The Power Off sound was insane!
The power switch looks so satisfying to use.
Wow, looks so clean and new on the inside... good job!
"An event in unto itself! I think the room has more brighter!" -- this is gold Jerry. I mean for real, this guy deserves all the wealth ever for being so awesome. Hi!
What happens if it reaches 88mph 😱
+Johnny AFC You gonna see some serious shit.
+EikNachuiKRC "but why built a time machine out of an ibm ps/2?"
"The way I see it, if you're going to built a time machine, you've gotta do it in style!"
Funny. That's exactly what I thought when I saw that 1.21 GW PSU in it.
+Johnny AFC
It transforms into Super Pursuit Mode!
the real question is What will happen if it reaches 80286MPH? :^)
i hope that someone will get that reference..
Fantastic machine. Cheers from another Clint.
My dad used to work with these PS/2 Models as an IT-Guy in the early 90s. Had to show him this video ;). Those machines were expensive as hell back in the day here in Switzerland.
Even my USB floppy drives are louder, takes me back to people comparing the smoothness or how fast their CD drive ejected.
I set one of these up to run some lab equipment back in the mid-90s. It was old then, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is still in use. It was a beast that just wouldn't die.
Man, hearing that thing power on and turn off gave me goosebumps, it's so satisfying. I wasn't even aware this stuff got my auditory rocks off...
And man, knowing that you might've been screwed on that battery if people didn't still use cordless home phones upsets me. Once those are rendered positively obsolete or whatever, I can't see those batteries being manufactured nearly as much, or at all if not much else uses them. These computers, it seems, are destined for death at some point, and we're just prolonging the inevitable.
That is such a satisfying PC. The hum when it turns on takes me back to when I was 4 and my family got a Dell XPS with a Pentium 3. Not exactly old compared to a PS/2 with a 286, but it hummed just like one.
I love this thing. the sound, the way it works and the looks!!
The fact that you found this near my area residence along with the rest of the lot mildly makes me jealous. I have been hunting for a Model M for years now.
I dig the startup sound. You should do a HQ maybe ASMR video of a bunch of different machine's boot sounds, and beeps and such.
Ahh great video, brings back memories.. we had one these beasts at home back in the day (and later on even a Model 80). I did my first steps of programming on this machine and also played games (like crystal caves and commander keen). Although i was kinda jealous about my friends having computer with a sound card :)
I love how all IBM PS/2's have a similar sort of fan hum. It just sounds so nice paired with the machine.
oh the nostalgia as soon as you hit the power switch. I didn't realize how much I miss the rush of fans and power surging though these big old boxes.
1:00 listen to the beast slowly waking up
I'd love to overhaul one of those, with all that space inside it'd make for a beast of a gaming machine. Unassuming on the outside, beast on the inside.
Yeah, I've always liked that idea. I have even searched for new cases in that classic grey style, but nope.
I personally enjoy this type of causal, off the cuff, video just showing off an old system. It's very laid back and very fun at the same time. As for the computer, that's one beautiful looking beast you've got there. I've always liked IBM PS/2s but have always found the microchannel expansion slots to be frustrating since there aren't too many good sound cards you can add to it.
Thanks, and I quite like making them! Largely because it's very lazy and it fits my persona happily.
At 2:13 you can actually see that there seems to be a C source code file for the CNC program (CNC.C). I would love to see its contents!
There's a stark beauty to these machines that nothing today exhibits....I remember my 286 from the early 90s: that professional business aesthetic...they had it down pat. I could look at them all day..
wow that thing is a total beast congrats on a good pc score
That power on and off sound... wow, I don't know why but I find them extremely awesome. :)
Damn near twenty years after I first switched on a computer (386 with Win 3.11, even came with Raptor, SimCity and I think Crystal Caves, since I know I played it somewhere) I still love the sound they make in the first few seconds after you flip the switch/press the button.
Dat start up and shut down sound....so nice. This was a bit before I got into computers. I think the first computer I had was a Pentium 3 Micron computer.
"Smooth sounding startup".. Yes you were holding the camera close to the chassi so ofc it was louder in the video than in actuality. But I found it ironic how you said that since for us, it sounded more like the world was about to explode. Not going to lie. I was terrified! D:
I LOVE THE ON/OFF SWITCH.. Nostalgia..
$300 for that whole lot?! That's a steal!
The inside of that thing is just beautiful. Everything exactly where it should be, no wirestrosity that needs entire other parts specifically to manage it. We gained alot when the industry opened up to more players, but we certainly lost elegance of design. Just imagine the nightmare of trying to build a modern gaming rig if one of your components needed a mounting device like that.
4:37 Transformer Detected! Gosh that sounds awesome :)
Floppy drive quietness is actually a feature of PC-DOS. Yes, those floppy drives are no doubt top-notch. But if you were to boot MS-DOS on that same machine, you'd probably notice more noise coming from that floppy drive on seek. It has something to do with the way PC-DOS moves the drive heads compared to MS-DOS. I believe PC-DOS instructs the floppy drives to move directly to a certain track, while MS-DOS steps to each track on it's way to the track it's looking for, making the drive noisier.
Love this gold tech, Clint.
Wow, I thought my IBM AT was big but that thing is huge! Fantastic machine!
My very first PC was a Compaq Deskpro 286e with 1mb RAM that I got in 1994 (it was made around 1989 so it was already obsolete when I got it), I had Crystal Caves and Commander Keen on it so I'm used to the slow load times on your video, haha.
One thing I was very proud of was when I got Wing Commander 2 to run on my 286 which came in 14 disks, it ran like a dog though but man I was blown away.
Great video and I love those old machines, especially the sound it makes starting up. The model M keyboard is something else again, those are GREAT keyboards. Where I work we deal with IBM's end of lease stuff and those keyboards show up once in a while so I use one at work (with a ThinkPad). At home I've got a new machine I built myself in my home office, it may have a i5 processor but it's also got a 1995 vintage Model M (which I'm typing on now).
Now, the real question is: Can you manage to get ahold of a Microchannel Soundblaster to give it some real oomph? (Yes, they were a thing.)
I imagine I have more of a chance of getting struck by lightning.
+Lazy Game Reviews Ouch, that rare huh? Well, I only even know about them because my dad (who worked for IBM) got one for our 386 PS/2 at the time.
+Lazy Game Reviews Next LGR Thrifts: LGR finds an MCA SoundBlaster sitting next to twenty copies of Willenium and a beckoning cat clock
That is one of the machines I found in regular service (well more or less: as a non networked standalone machine) when I started my job in 2000. Some other ones included a Macintosh Plus with PhoneNet ADB adapter and external hard disk, and a Macintosh SE used as a file server. In a closet I found a working recently decomissioned Apple IIc. In AD 2000.
Many years ago I actually was given an IBM 286 system identical to this case-wise - it was being thrown out by a TV station (scheduling and system control etc.) Except that it used SCSI raid 2 X30 Meg I believe, with a connector to an external box for two more drives. It had no software but (with difficulty) I was able to load DOS 5.0. Fascinating machine!