LGR - IBM PS/2 Model 60 Lives Again!
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2016
- Fixed up this classic piece of IBM PC history and figured I'd show it off inside and out! Here's the original video this is a follow-up to:
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*For those wanting to poke around the CNC folder:*
Here's an archive of the files! archive.org/details/lgr-cnc-model60
+Lazy Game Reviews Cool! Some source included! It looks like the machine was hooked to the COM2 port, which is hard coded with interrupt 0x2f8. kind of... bad idea... no config file. and there's a scary comment that kind of says they "hope" it works. this makes me laugh so hard knowing that this thing was used to send CNC data files to a machine that's worth in the 100 000$, and they have to recompile the thing whenever there's change in the pc hardware, which we'll agree did not happen often in the days before PnP but STILL. Incredible ;)
The data files are probably generated with another software.
You can write the CNC programs in notepad. That's what I did when I wrote cnc programs. The machine itself couldnt hold more than a few programs so you had to use a computer like this as storage. Even if the hard drive was only 15 megs it would be plenty because a cnc file would hardly take up a kB most of the time. I think the machine I mostly ran had 4 or 8 program slots in it.
I noticed the SCORBOT directory. That was software used to control a robotic arm, often used in industry and higher education for robotics training. They still make Scorbots today, except now they're controlled through weenie modern USB ports.
Fascinating, thanks for the info!
pretty cool stuff!
I wonder if the arms would still accept the Inputs from thid version
(weeine)
"Hear this thing turn off."
*see's the note that reads "Please do not turn off"*
o.o
+multani82 Even the computer sounded like it was going "Nooooooooooooo...." :P
+Fuzy2K "Clinteyyyyy, Cliiiinteeyyyyyy..."
+multani82 *sees*
I'm pretty sure a server somewhere went down when Clint turned it off.
that is quite funny.
*More info on the MFM hard drive:*
Many PS/2 Model 60/80 machines used ESDI drives instead of MFM, but that is not the case here!
Looking on the sticker you'll see IBM P/N 6373507, which is a Seagate ST-4053 MFM hard drive. There were also cards like the 90X6768 that supported MFM drives on MCA hardware.
+Lazy Game Reviews Very cool. I wish I can have that machine.
+Lazy Game Reviews I was just thinking about when you would follow up with your great haul the other day! Glad to see such a nice setup!
Dude, you could go surfing with this thing, it's so freakin' big!
+Lazy Game Reviews I have one question of this machine, I hope you can answer it. How many Watts do it use?
cool to see it alive . makes a lot of noise like me when I wake up
You should record the turning off sound and use that at the end of your videos 😋
+dondon4720 That's actually a great idea :D Clint should totally do that, in combination with the turn on sound just before the intro :D
You can get a similar experience using a more modern server chassis, I think. I got a server-type tower made by Chenbro a while back, and the fans in that thing are LOUD by modern standards. I actually ended up swapping them out, they were so bad.
Some company's servers probably died when he turned it off.
Ubisoft it's time for you to upgrade your damn servers!
Nah, that thing sounds way to reliable to be the uPlay server
+Jake Cobovic god died when he turned it off
I've used an old machine for CNC work before, and it's great. IT wasn't neaerly as old as this thing, but it's pretty much the same.
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Such memories!
The red huge power switch is pure authority
modern pc cases should have a big red switch like that, love it
What a BEAST of a machine!
My first PC was a LaserPal 286/16 from Sears :D
Nice! "The power package for the budget conscious" as their tagline went, hehe.
This was really cool to see - the modular PSU was epic!
And that massive number of expansion slots makes me a little too happy.
That switch and turn on/off sound was just plain awesome! It just screams power...even though it's so old.
It sounded like a spaceship powering up when you turned it on.
0:56 getting ready for take-off!
0:58 Fuck yeah, THAT'S what a proper computer sounds like.
0:58
Damn me, LGR. Can you just make one ASMR vid of computers, monitors, printers, whatever you have in there turning on, off and working. Only ASMR vid I'd ever crave.
Something I've considered, for sure!
+Lazy Game Reviews Do it entirely in your Duke Nukem voice!
+LittleNorwegians sounds like a ephemeral rift thing
+LittleNorwegians Yesss, and include the nice clunk of the power switch, too. The switch on this computer in particular sounds wonderful.
+Lazy Game Reviews Do it
Love the knowledge of the ancients on display.
My school had some of the EduQuest Model 40 machines (basically a one-piece PS/2 Model 40 sold directly to schools), and I do remember the floppy mechanism on them just being nicer than average. Other machines would load a disk with a pretty serious "thud", but the PS/2 would accept it with more of a "snik". And the heads had a minimum of gronk-gronk to them, mostly you were just treated to the whisper of the disk media spinning against the padding inside the disk.
Hey man I absolutely adore these videos, keep them up. I can't say there are many people on RUclips who get me on the edge of my seat watching things like this as you do.
Your enthusiasm for older technology is infectious!!! I love it!
That thing is honestly sexier than a few of my ex-girlfriends.
LGR this makes me so happy to see I’ve been following for a while but just now seeing it I just recently got a IBM ThinkCentre and this just makes me happy
Congrats on getting it working! The sound of this thing powering on and off is REALLY satisfying.
This is absolutely incredible, dude. I really enjoyed the video, just showing off a machine really quick. Nice and simple, really chill.
Around 1988-89 I was at a local college where the art professor had a PS/2 Model 60 in his office with a HUGE 4MB MCA memory card, 8514/A Graphics and monitor and a big IBM Postscript laser printer. Windows 2.1 was installed! I learned a lot about editing WIN.INI files by hand to get Aldus PageMaker *AND* Adobe Illustrator to *BOTH* print to the same printer with the same driver. I also learned a lot about finding the right memory drivers so that software could actually use that fancy MCA memory board. Apparently the professor had friends, high up at IBM and they couldn't find the drivers to make the memory work. One day I found the original disks that came with the machine. There were the drivers... Suddenly, you could use high-res 256 colors in Electronic Art's Deluxe Paint. I credit my extensive work with Amiga computers for the problem-solving skills. :)
I love this video! PC gaming and the PS/2 series don't usually go together, so I'm pleased as punch to see PS/2 stuff on your channel, of all places.
Wow, that is a beautiful piece of older tech. Even though I know it is now outclassed by anything that has been on the market for years, I still can recognize a beast when I see one.
I really like your recent videos! Keep coming with new oldies!
Wow, looks so clean and new on the inside... good job!
As a computer tech, i like seeing your reviews of old hardware. Keep 'em going!
Thanks for all the great content! I'm sure I speak for many here when I say that you're keeping my inner child of the 80s alive and well.
Awesome machine! Very nice to see one, never saw the insides of this model before :)
These 1980s IBM ps2 models were a one type fixed design. You couldn't just swap in a normal 3.5 ide hard drive from a AT pc. I remember working on these back in early 90s. Very complex and one off design for sure. Stock up on these now because parts are getting more and more scarce. Thx for sharing this!
I just picked up a model 57 and did not expect to find a 50 pin SCSI drive. Luckily SCSI to SD adapters are readily available!
I love seeing videos about old PCs like this. Can't wait to see more!
Your casual reviews are every bit as awesome as your well-produced affairs.
Thank you!
Great video! I enjoyed this immensely. I watched it twice so far and emailed it to all my geek friends. I'd never seen the inside the Model 60. Thanks.
Super cool! I would never have the combination of time, love, and resources for doing that myself, but i can watch this!
Another nice one. Man, your videos were an inspiration to build my '97 dream machine. I didn't feel the need to go all the way back to DOS machines, but I do have a soft spot for my first proper computer running on Windows 95/98 wit h3dfx VooDoo card. So I have built a super beefed up version of that computer that I couldn't afford back then and now I'm re-living the dream :P
Pentium 3 @450MHz
64 MB RAM
3dfx VooDoo 3 3000 (brand new!)
SounBlaster 128 PCi with the awesome 8MB wavetable (that the card that I had originally).
A good PC for both DOS and Windows games from mid-90's (where my nostalgia hits the hardest). If I had this machine back in 1997 I would be in heaven, but a PC with half that power had to suffice up until 2001. Thanks again for the inspiration, Clint!
Omg! Thanks so much for this Clint. I had this whole set up except the mouse back in the day. I remember it weighed a ton! I had to use a hand truck to get it up the stairs. LOL😝 What a blast from the past.
Man, that's seriously the coolest thing I've seen in a whlie. I was smiling throughout the video. If someone had shown me that hard drive and told me it's an electric coffee grinder or something, I probably would've believed it.
Holy crap that giant thing is the hard drive? And the processor has no fan or heatsink? Dude. Strange things are afoot.
+JimPlaysGames with the insanely low frequencys the 286 chips ran at its no suprise realy.
+JimPlaysGames CPUs didn't need fans or heatsinks until the 486DX2 era.
+JimPlaysGames Welcome to the late 80's man.
Anyone who lived during that time has a bit of a love/hate relationship with the technology. Nothing as amazing as a solid IBM PC...but at the same time I'm not willing to give up my Lenovo Think products now.
Today:
44MB hard drives = 1cm x 2cm
+Can of Soda no, 128 gb micro sd-cards 1 cm * 1.3 cm or something like that
The startup - AH, MEMORIES. I visited a few server halls when I was a kid and I remember specifically one time I visited Volvo and needed ear protectors!
I needed that trip today, thanks.
Great to see the classics alive and well, especially when it can play Commander Keen: Goodbye Galaxy. That game was my childhood. I beat it more then 10 times back in the day and still played it. My uncle had a LOT of DOS games in his floppy disc containers and I had about 30 of them installed on my computer. He's a computer programmer so you can bet he had some great lunch breaks with all those DOS games, back then.
I love your reviews of old computer stuff Clint. Keep up the great videos and fun.
Ahh great video, brings back memories.. we had one these beasts at home back in the day (and later on even a Model 80). I did my first steps of programming on this machine and also played games (like crystal caves and commander keen). Although i was kinda jealous about my friends having computer with a sound card :)
I love this thing. the sound, the way it works and the looks!!
That power switch is almost sexual in its operation. Every computer should have a big red switch on the front that looks and sounds like a breaker box switch, that is a world in which I would like to live.
The sounds of the keystrokes, the flip of the switch, the machine turning on.. they sound so satisfying. Sweet jesus.
Years ago I had fond and assembled basically that same system with all those peripherals, only the tower was a Model 80, with the 386 cpu and a 387 co-processor. I found all that stuff on a trash-day after someone had cleaned out an abandoned, boarded-up house and all that PS/2 stuff and some more was all piled up in a heap on the sidewalk next to the trash cans, to be hauled away in a trash-truck. I dragged all that computer stuff home and sorted it out and got the Model 80 going ... it also had a card in one of it's MCA slots that had a 468 cpu socket and a couple of RAM slots, so that Model 80 was running as a 486 with a DX2 chip in that card's cpu socket. I tried a DX4 in it, but it made the system run erratically, so I kept the DX2 in that system and it ran great. I also eventually found a 14.4 K MCA modem and an IBM MCA sound card and it's driver programs that included all those 58 gazillion tiny .WAV files that each contained a single note from an actual recording of an actual musical instrument, and that thing played .MID files that literally sounded like actual live music instead of electronicky-sounding synthesized music. I eventually got that rig all fine-tuned and running IBM PC-DOS and IBM Windows 3.1 and it was totally awesome :-)
You're not kidding ... those systems back in their day were insanely expensive. I dug through IBM's archives in their website and calculated that what I had found and assembled from a pile of discarded junk found on the sidewalk on trash-day into a working PS/2 system based on a Model 80 Tower, and the price tag for all the stuff inside that tower including the two 72 megabyte full-sized hard drives was $180,000.00... approximately... and that is in late-1980's prices!!... :-O
That is a sexy machine and it sounds terrific when it boots up.
That booting sound...takes me right back to kindergarten/1st grade. Thank you, Clint!*tears of happiness" ^^
Great video and I love those old machines, especially the sound it makes starting up. The model M keyboard is something else again, those are GREAT keyboards. Where I work we deal with IBM's end of lease stuff and those keyboards show up once in a while so I use one at work (with a ThinkPad). At home I've got a new machine I built myself in my home office, it may have a i5 processor but it's also got a 1995 vintage Model M (which I'm typing on now).
Once again LGR, once again you made me remember one game from my early childhood that was completely forgotten, crystal caves man, I used to play that game all the time so long ago, I might shed a tear or something...
Love seeing (and hearing) this beast!! My first computer job around 95/96 was at a business only computer store and onsite service provider. We had rooms filled with these older pc's and servers. Most of them were too old back then and we would be upgrading and/or replacing them entirely with newer servers. Love those old 5 1/4 hard drives too, but I can't help but think of those awful Quantum Bigfoot drives that continued throughout the 90's.
Really nice machine. I had a model 60 myself back in the mid-90s when I was a teenager. It had the same configuration as your except for the hard drive being an 80MB ESDI drive. I traded a Tandy 1100FD laptop for it and got the machine along with a model M and 8512 monochrome display monitor and an external tape drive. The man was a manager for the old Waldenbooks chain of bookstores and they had upgraded to new hardware. They let him have the model 60. I remember having to deal with the battery issue one year after I had the machine. Since the CMOS setup was not stored on ROM, I remember my parents taking me to a local computer store to acquire a copy of the IBM Reference Diskette needed to give the machine its date, time, and config data back.
Great video! love this stuff.
I had one of these 286-12 mhz. My mom made me throw the case when i purchase my first Pentium, but i still have that IBM monitor in my storage room and still using the "King of Clicks" keyboard today!
I love your machine.
I had one of the later models back in the day after they were considered junk, and yes I swapped the SX33 with a DX2/66, maxed out the ram and filled it with as many drives as I could.
What I created was a POS that also weighed a ton, but maaaaan was that thing cool in its way.
1:00 listen to the beast slowly waking up
I LOVE THE ON/OFF SWITCH.. Nostalgia..
Love your vids keep them coming
Man I would love to record and capture all of these awesome sounds. The Power Off sound was insane!
Deja vu! I remember working at an office building where someone threw one of these away. That freakin' hard drive.
Eagerly awaiting a video on the madness that was Micro-Channel Architecture!
That is such a satisfying PC. The hum when it turns on takes me back to when I was 4 and my family got a Dell XPS with a Pentium 3. Not exactly old compared to a PS/2 with a 286, but it hummed just like one.
I can't wait for the model 95 server video!!
I remember when my dad was teaching me about computers back in 96-97 he started me on old acers with no hard drives and booting and using DOS, then up to a model 60 like this I think. I remember how huge the hard drive was in it and only like 15mb, then onto the 386/486 variants and stuff with Windows 3.1 and also 3.11 workstation and troubleshooting through DOS. Then he allowed me to use Windows 95 and up from there.
I'm glad he went that route instead of straight to windows 95. Got a good base of knowledge through DOS.
I could have sworn it was a model 60 but I do know it was in a very tall tower and had an incredibly physically huge hard drive
The power switch looks so satisfying to use.
The click of the power switch and that whir to follow is so satisfying.
That's one beautiful machine you got there.
That machine seems to be in absurdly good shape. I don't think I even remember machines I used in the 80s running that smooth,
Envy!
wow that thing is a total beast congrats on a good pc score
The fact that you found this near my area residence along with the rest of the lot mildly makes me jealous. I have been hunting for a Model M for years now.
oh the nostalgia as soon as you hit the power switch. I didn't realize how much I miss the rush of fans and power surging though these big old boxes.
Fantastic machine. Cheers from another Clint.
I dig the startup sound. You should do a HQ maybe ASMR video of a bunch of different machine's boot sounds, and beeps and such.
The title of this video brings joy to many of us. PS/2 IBM computers were built to last. Love the quality of those machines and it's always good to see one functioning 100%. The granddaddies of modern PCs.
Love the design language, the mouse is amazing and that power button that's just awesome. The blue eject button on the floppy drive, it even has 1.44 in white lettering on it. The slanted angles.
Wow, I thought my IBM AT was big but that thing is huge! Fantastic machine!
I set one of these up to run some lab equipment back in the mid-90s. It was old then, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is still in use. It was a beast that just wouldn't die.
$300 for that whole lot?! That's a steal!
Dat start up and shut down sound....so nice. This was a bit before I got into computers. I think the first computer I had was a Pentium 3 Micron computer.
LOL to the floppy disk sound effects lol.
Even my USB floppy drives are louder, takes me back to people comparing the smoothness or how fast their CD drive ejected.
Love this gold tech, Clint.
That power on and off sound... wow, I don't know why but I find them extremely awesome. :)
There's a stark beauty to these machines that nothing today exhibits....I remember my 286 from the early 90s: that professional business aesthetic...they had it down pat. I could look at them all day..
This is so cool, great vid
I love how all IBM PS/2's have a similar sort of fan hum. It just sounds so nice paired with the machine.
you make the disk drive sound perfectly!
Clint, you're such an awesome dude! Watching your videos gives me the warm feeling of knowing that not all the people in USA are braindead, and because of geeks like you there's still hope for your nation!
That monitor power button is so nice too =D I had an instant flash back when i was pushing one of those monitors on.. back in the day.. =D
My very first PC was a Compaq Deskpro 286e with 1mb RAM that I got in 1994 (it was made around 1989 so it was already obsolete when I got it), I had Crystal Caves and Commander Keen on it so I'm used to the slow load times on your video, haha.
One thing I was very proud of was when I got Wing Commander 2 to run on my 286 which came in 14 disks, it ran like a dog though but man I was blown away.
I remember we had those back at my grade school in 1990, but I'm not sure which specific model of it. Loved those old IBM mechanical keyboards. Look at all those classic games I played :D! Memories
now that is a cool machine right there. what i would give to find some of those old ps/2 machines to play around with myself
Nostalgia'd hard. My grade school/middle school had a lot of these humming away in our computer lab and I thought they were the coolest computers ever as a kid.
My dad used to work with these PS/2 Models as an IT-Guy in the early 90s. Had to show him this video ;). Those machines were expensive as hell back in the day here in Switzerland.
I watched your first vid on the IBM lot. my dad used to programming for IBM's .when they got rid of the model 60 we had 34 of them at home for £1 go clear them. they are so well. built and tons of room inside for a modern PC build. if anyone has one and lives near Brighton in UK please let me know if love to have one again.
I got one of these as well recently, it just looks, feels and SOUNDS amazing! Of course i had to get a network isa card and run the mtcp pack on it, for some irc goodness.
Damn near twenty years after I first switched on a computer (386 with Win 3.11, even came with Raptor, SimCity and I think Crystal Caves, since I know I played it somewhere) I still love the sound they make in the first few seconds after you flip the switch/press the button.
That is one of the machines I found in regular service (well more or less: as a non networked standalone machine) when I started my job in 2000. Some other ones included a Macintosh Plus with PhoneNet ADB adapter and external hard disk, and a Macintosh SE used as a file server. In a closet I found a working recently decomissioned Apple IIc. In AD 2000.
Floppy drive quietness is actually a feature of PC-DOS. Yes, those floppy drives are no doubt top-notch. But if you were to boot MS-DOS on that same machine, you'd probably notice more noise coming from that floppy drive on seek. It has something to do with the way PC-DOS moves the drive heads compared to MS-DOS. I believe PC-DOS instructs the floppy drives to move directly to a certain track, while MS-DOS steps to each track on it's way to the track it's looking for, making the drive noisier.
You can hear the love in his voice =)
Miss that boot sound. Always reminded me of a spaceship. Epic!