Do You Really Need To Upgrade Your Gimbal? DJI RS3 Pro vs. Original Ronin S
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- Camera gimbals are incredible tools and the technology just gets better each year, but how necessary is it to upgrade to the latest model if you’ve already got a gimbal that’s a few generations behind? This video compares the original DJI Ronin S to the updated RS3 Pro to see if the upgrade is worth the price.
I owe a huge thanks to @PeterLindgren1 for letting me borrow his RS3 Pro to compare with my original Ronin S. My video is less of an in-depth review and more of an overview of when/if an upgrade is worth it. For a full RS3 Pro review, check out Peter's video: • This is NOT Just A Gim...
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1:14 - RS3 Pro Features & Walking Test
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4:43 - Biggest Differences
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7:04 - Why Others SHOULD Upgrade
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Episode 303: Do You Really Need To Upgrade Your Gimbal? 
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Oh man that run still makes me sweat.
I'm impressed you ran all the way form Sweden to help! I won't even ask how you handled the whole ocean situation.
I thought you was a gym man 😁
I’m subscribing because you have the same last name.
Nice intro
I was so focused on him and the gimbal I didn’t even notice till he got close the first time. Lol. Good stuff.
the intro with Peter running is the best! 👏😂
He flew in all the way from Sweden and boy were his arms tired 😬
I have 3 gimbals - the Original DJI Roin S, the Ronin RS2 and the Zhijun Crane M2S. I can honestly say I enjoy using the Oroginal DJI Ronin S the most because it felt most sturdy, rugged and felt overall better built - yes, it's a little heavier and less compact and definitely needs a small extension pole, the grip handle similar to the one shown and fordable tripod legs, but it's still my favorite to use.
Damn I thought yall did that with some kind of editing lol, he’s real for that 💪
You absolutely hit the nail on the head with this, i've avoided the temptation to upgrade from the Ronin-S for the past few years but purchased the RS3 Pro as soon as it dropped mainly to pair with the Canon C70
Definitely a good choice for the C70 👍
Too fun and too true! Upgrade decisions are almost always complicated and ALWAYS very personal and surprisingly emotional. So fun to see Peter in this and watch you having fun together!
It's tough to distinguish the "the would be helpful for me" vs. the "I don't want to feel left out for not having the latest and greatest."
So fun and funny to see you both! Great video!
Hi Tom,
It was a great watch! I am not a photographer, and I really don’t know much about cameras, but I recently gifted one to my nephew. A dear friend of mine is a photographer and he helped me pick out the best one for my nephew. Since then ai Have been watching videos like these to understand more about cameras. I think my friend and nephew will appreciate this video a lot. I will definitely share this with them. Thanks a lot for sharing, it was a great watch.
watching two of my favourite RUclipsrs cooperating makes me even happier, well done
Glad you enjoyed it! Editing this video and seeing Peter in my studio was definitely a mind trip 😁
Thanks for the video, Tom! Also thanks to Peter for joining you! Appreciate the conversation about needing to upgrade gear whenever new gear is released. One minor correction. At 2:01 you mention the payload for the RS3 Pro being 6.6lbs. The RS3 Pro actually has a 10lb payload, while the RS3 (non-Pro) has the 6.6lb capacity. Thanks again for the video!
Oop. Thanks for keeping an eye out on the info!
This is a dope video! Loved the way this was shot. Also super random, but around 2:30 with the sound off it looks like you’re in a rap video 😂😂😂
Ahh, I should release my demo tape then!
Great video as usual and awesome how you integrated Peter...at first I thought his distant voice was someone's in the coffee shop I'm at; then I thought it was some random, noisy person near you; then i thought they were "photo"-bombing your video...then I figured they were a prop; then I was pleasantly surprised it was Peter!
Ahh, that's exactly what I wanted people to think 😁
awesome video! 100k is so close
Super great video enjoyed seeing you and Peter in the video.
It was so much fun to have him visit!
I can really relate to this video being I picked up a barely used ronin SC 3 months ago for 150 bucks and I'm really happy with it. All the RUclips pro loved it just 3 years ago. You and Peter look like your having a great time!!! Love it.
Peter is such a fun guy. The used market for gimbals is definitely great for buyers! Lots of high end stuff for really cheap prices. 😎
@@tombuck how much longer are the arms on rs3pro vs rs2?
I never seen your channel but ai can hear the honesty in your review. You definitely don't get that in alot of reviewers.
Wow thank you! It means a lot to hear this, so I appreciate the kind feedback.
I don’t have the money for any of these cool things, but I can always appreciate the puns in your videos.
Peter was a surprise on your channel! Love it!!!
It was so strange editing footage with him in my studio! 🤯
I bet. Enjoy your content Tom. It’s always a pleasure.
Great video, the balance in comparison is excellent
Thank you! It's really nice to hear that, I appreciate the kind words. 🙏
You guys killed it with all of the great content you both shot during Peters' visit! I have the RS2 Pro and I would "like" to upgrade, but I don't "need" to upgrade.🤣
Thanks! Yeah, the new gimbals are great, but for me personally there’s no need to upgrade. Peter, on the other hand, totally benefits from the upgrade.
@@tombuck Agreed,Peter definitely would use the new gimbal with his workflow. On a side note,impatiently waiting for the FedEx truck to drop off the Rode RCP2!
Everybody knows who is Peter. He doesn't need introduction 🥰🥰
Very true.
Bro i was like what is that in the background, is that Peter 😂
Then I asked myself how many times did they have to do it to get it right 🎥 🧔🏻🤳 ……🏃🏼♂️ 💨
Surprisingly we only had to do it twice. Peter is a true pro (I'm the one who messed up the first take). 😬
GGGGGreat video, interesting that gimbals have come come a long way.
Very excited that ill be buying my first 1.
Love the video
Thanks man
Hopefully you have a lot of fun with it and it lasts you for many years!
Truly gives me anxiety to see you outside 😂 was happy to see you back in your studio safe and sound.
Let's just say it was all green screen VR 😁
Thank you for your Good presentation!!!✌
Thank you for the kind words!
Nice video (Great intro) I won a Zhiyun Crane M3 I only use my little ZV-1 on it but it's all I need. Glad you were honest about not needing to upgrade...
Those little gimbals are pretty nifty and definitely easier to travel with than my original Ronin!
I just got the M3. I hate my other zhiyun like the S. I think it’s a nightmare and can’t trust it. But the M3 kept me from buying DJI
Nice video Tom!... I have a DJI S2 and I think keep with for long time, maybe I will upgrade in a future with an DJI RS5. 🤷♂️
That's kind of the great thing about stuff like this: the longer you wait, the better it gets 👍
“Only *Swedens* the deal” might be my favorite you’ve done.
I have no right to be as proud of that as I am.
Now that you had the guy from the North running in the desert, time for you to go closer to glacier and run in the snow... no? great video, made me smile on a very average day... that's probably one of the greatest power you guys have 👍
I think a Eurotrip is definitely in order.
Tom, how do you continue to read my mind? I was having the same issue, I have the Ronin S and was thinking should I upgrade.... but after this I know I can invest that chunk of change in another part of my workflow to help the channel.... Massive thank you!
Thanks Aaron! The new gimbals are definitely better, but in my case, they're not going to make ME better. Rather than spending money, it'd be better to spend time practicing/learning more.
For someone like Peter though, the upgrade DOES impact the workflow in a big way.
I love the video. Did you use ADR? That talking near the light house has some really clear sound. Which mic? Great info! Thank you, sirs.
Thanks! That was with the Sony ECM B1M mounted on top of the camera. It has a noise cancelling option that works really well, but it does make the audio a bit “thinner” sounding.
The screaming swede in the background :)
Yes, I think anyone with a previous version should absolutely upgrade. Should I mention I'm in the market to buy a used older version?
i knew who he was. So i was taken back when you said a young youtuber who is helping. LOL
Your assistant is pretty funny. Y’all should definitely start a podcast.
He’s a great unpaid intern 👍
autolock is for delicate flowers. I've been trashing mine in backpack (without sections, just simple backpacsk) since 2018 and only thing needed change was battery handle. Got used one for 100eur and I'm not switching until there is some obvious difference.
I can change lenses while it's turned on (needs custom tuning in app for that trick tho), I can unpack and shoot in less than a minute... original S is the mvp.
I have the RSC2 and don't use it often, but it is a remarkable piece of kit when I do. I really can't imagine the gimbal referred to here being significantly better. Usually using a Panasonic GH5 or GX85 w/Laowa 7.5 f2 or Oly 7-14.
All these gimbals really are cool devices when you just step back and look at how they're made and what they can do.
Game changer it will be a 4-axis or 5-axis gimbal. RS2 and RS3 are just an evolution of 3-axis gimbals where the operator's walking technique is the most important.
I used a gimbal once. Didn't really enjoy how cumbersome it was but just got the RS3 Pro for my Komodo and the possibility of the lidar focusing with some manual lenses.
They're come a REALLY long way in just a few years. Pretty crazy how much simpler (but advanced) things are now.
Nice and for sure. Upgrade, nope. If buting new, absolutely!
Yep, always best to buy the best when you need it (and then hopefully keep it/use it for a long time).
Wich mic do you use in this video bro ? Great one as always
This was a mix. For the desert and studio shots it was the Sennheiser MKH50, but for the part in Long Beach it was Peter's Sony ECM B1M (it was SUPER windy that day, so I'm impressed you can hear anything of what was said).
I subscribed to your channel recently, but that was BEFORE I realized how endemic the bad puns are.
P.S. still subscribed.
If they get worse will it become a pundemic?
I picked up my Ronin S used on the cheap. That thing is a tank!
They're really built well!
To add to Tom's take, here is my view for anyone who may want it. I started my channel with a DJI Pocket 2. I then went to an RSC2. I am now on the RS2. All this to say that you can do pretty much anything with whatever you have on hand as long as it has a baseline of quality. Most DJI products do have that baseline and have had it for quite a while. DJI is an iterative company, you see. They build good things and then add marginal improvements.
With that framework, consider the RS3 and RS3 pro in the context of the Mk1 and Mk2 lineup.
If you aren't going to take advantage of the featureset of the Mk3 product (auto locking-big whup, larger dimensional payload-actually cool) don't FOMO too hard. If you don't own a Gimbal yet, and are on a budget, the RSC2 is phenomenal, perhaps even better than the RS2 in some ways. If you do own one of the MK2 units, outside of specific needs, stick to that.
Great insight. I definitely realized that while the new gimbals are definitely better than my original, the biggest improvement to my work is going to come from me spending time practicing and experimenting with that I already have.
I have extremely weak noodle arms and I crave that weight savings over the original.
@@elliespohr What do you shoot with out of curiosity? The RSC2 or RS3 vanilla might be just the ticket.
@@POVwithRC I have the original Ronin S and a Sony A7III with various lenses. (I mostly do still photography, hence the lens selection.) 16-35 GM, 24 GM, 50 GM, 135 GM, Tamron 90, Tamron 28-75. There's always something else more important to buy or upgrade, but I still want that lower weight.
@Ellie Spohr Well, I can tell you this. The RSC2 handled my FX3, a Rode SVMX, and any of the GM wide triplets (14, 24, 35) or the 16-35 Zeiss. Just over 1600 grams for the gear if using the 14mm.
Therefore, easy to say that the gimbal itself is up to the task of running your gear, which will weigh less. Much less if no mic. You could beat someone to death with the SVMX.
The RSC2 weights 1300 grams or so.
RS3 weighs 1300 too.
Your S weighs 1800. Oof what a porker!
At the end of the day, you could grab the RSC2 and keep half the money in your pocket as it goes on sale to make room for the vanilla RS3.
I give you my disembodied voice on the internet guarantee that the RSC2 is absolutely worth your time if you are coming from a Mk1 S.
If I would make a video, it will be that one!! Thanks!!
2:00 shallow deep of field Tom. Cool. Which mic did you use for the exterior shots? It was really good. I'm sure it wasn't just the mic, but I'm curious. It was chevere (cool) to see a collaboration.
It was kind of a mix- for the desert and studio it was the Sennheiser MKH50 and for the beach it was Peter's Sony ECM BM1 (it was super windy, so I'm impressed that the mic was able to pick up anything!)
I have the aircross 2 from moza . I love it but I dropped it and it has some issues now. It still works well and it's very comosct. But the rs3 is even more co pact with the detachable battery. The thi go is I am most of the time aphotographer. Like 80 percent a photographer. But sometimes do both in the same day and want to be packed light, I don't like using apps for gimbals (the monitor will be so nice) and of course that it lock itself is so convenient as I need to change quickly between photography and filming. I could pack the gimbals very fast and easy in my backpack and use my camera for photography. But I don't know if I need the upgrade as I already have a quite good gimbal. But the ronin rs3 seems like a gimbal that can last me for years!
Subscribed because of this video
I'm really glad to know it was helpful!
lol the comedy party is creay funny :)))) thanks
This is crazy. I shot a short business video the other day with my Ronin S while waiting for the R3 and I’ve been conflicted ever since shoot day… LMAO!!!
Haha, I'm glad the original still got the job done for you! I think Peter's point is spot on: for someone who uses gimbal a lot, or whose business relies on it, the upgrade can be very smart.
idk if i missed it, but did you not talk about the core-element of a gimbal? aka how well it stabilizes?
Hi Tom, fun video :) I recently purchased the Zhiyum Crane M3. Have you tested it and if so, what is your comparison between the RS3 Pro and the Crane M3?
I've honestly only used the original Ronin and the new one 🤷🏻♂️
Looking at the SC for now but RS3 looks 👌🏼
It's definitely an awesome tool, and I'm always impressed by DJI's ability to add quality of life improvements to new versions of things.
I’ll be honest. I was focused on what you were saying and didn’t notice Peter until he was like right up on ya. Then I literally had to rewind to see if I missed the run..🤦♂️
Haha, I love that. I was hoping people would really think it was just someone being loud in the background 😁
Stop playing tom,your a rapper on the low low lol.Always dropping barz on us 💪🏾💯
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I have both and there's noting wrong with my Ronin S. Well I have the RS3 and not the pro. I got it because it's smaller, lighter, and the Bluetooth. Yes I could have made it work with my Ronin S but I feel it's just overkill for my Sony ZV E1.
For walking test, did you use warp stabilize in post production or is it just raw gimbal footage shot? It looks much smoother than mine..! Do you have your own specific gimbal settings?
It’s all the default gimbal settings, nothing special other than making sure it was balanced 👍
Hey, i like you RS Original Handle... where did you get that one from ? any link please ?
This is the one I have: amzn.to/48TphSQ
Unfortunately it doesn't look like they make it anymore, but you might be able to find something similar in the "related products"
I just bought the RS2 and it’s great. But what is the difference between the RS2 and the RS3 Pro?
To be honest, I don’t,now since I only used the original. I put a link in the description to Peter’s video, which is a more in depth review.
I proposed to my girlfriend on the bow of the Queen Mary. Must have been good luck, because we're still married 21 years later :D
Also, cool gimbal.
Really?! That’s an awesome place to propose.
The fucked up thing is that while the RSC 2 supports BMPCC 4K and even 6K Pro, the RS 3 Non-Pro does not support them, and DJI forces you to buy the RS 3 Pro instead, even though weight is far from being over the limit of the RS 3 Non-Pro. DJI has been getting more and more greedy in the last few years..
Thanks for your review. Please can Lumix gh5 and viltrox adapter with sigma 18-35 works with dji rs3 not the rs3 pro
That's still a relatively compact setup, so it shouldn't be an issue with the RS3 👍
@@tombuck Alright. Thanks so much
I've know these things are really expensive, But I'd have my good ol' tripod, Which I'm going to *hack* it as "a stabilizer" too. =)
hello from Ukraine 🇺🇦💪🏼)) need your advice. I am a professional director of photography, I have been shooting for 4 years on my old S, ia. completely satisfied. my hands are not from the ass and this steadicam completely satisfies me. and here is the question, will the new RS3 pro surprise me in terms of technical characteristics? How much better does it stabilize? does it have the same twitches as the S version? I don't want to spend extra money on a new steadicam if it's the same as the old one. but I don’t want to overpay for a built-in monitor or automatic blocking or the ability to press Rec or Stop via bluetooth) I do everything the old fashioned way.
Hey Mykola!
This is a bit of a tough question. Honestly, in terms of just stabilization, I don’t think there’s much of a difference. And if you don’t care about monitors/Bluetooth/etc, then there’s even less of a difference. Where the new gimbals might stand out is with how easy they are to balance and how much better they are at locking/folding up for travel. If those are pain points for you now, then and upgrade could be worth it. Otherwise the classic S is still outstanding.
@@tombuck cool, thank you for your help) I’d rather spend money on other equipment) I decided the method of transportation with a super Manfrotto Cinematic Balance backpack)) and my hands are even, so I balance the camera on the ronin very quickly) 🙏💪🏼🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Hey! Was the outdoor audio on the rode video mic NTG or the wireless go?
It was a mix between the Sennheiser MKH50 and the Sony ECM BM1 👍
@@tombuck Thanks for letting me know. The isolation and audio was beautiful in this video. Im restarting my channel next month and I’ve been on a hunt for great audio with my Canon system. Im all in on Rode right now but I’ve been thinking about the 416 and the 50 but it’s not justified right now. Soon though.
To do vertical shots do you mount it vertical or use portrait in FPV?
If your camera has a vertical mount (or a cage with one), you can definitely do it.
Found a Ronin S for $100. Worth a go for my first gimbal or just save up for a Ronin RS3?
It’s not as slick to setup, but if it’s in good shape for that price it’s a total steal!
Tell us please the microphone system that you used on that video please!! Thank you anyways!
This one was a bit of a mess in terms of mics haha 😁
The intro in the desert and the ending in my studio were done with the Sennheiser MKH50 running through the FX3. The part where we're outside near the water was on the Sony ECM-B1M connected to the a7SIII (it was insanely windy so there's a lot of noise cancellation happening but it worked!), and then in between the intro and the beach where I explain a bit about the gimbals, I just used the Rode Videomic Go II via USB for a quick Voiceover.
@@tombuck thank you!! It sounds like you are in a recording booth near the water!! And o thought... I need this microphone...
Like for Peter :)
The biggest question for me…is the new Ronin RS3 Pro much smoother than the Ronin S? The resale value on the Ronin S is not great.
I tried a bunch of different running and rough movements, and it's definitely smoother than the original, but honestly I don't think it's a night and day difference.
@@tombuck Thanks, Tom. Great to know.
nice
I would love it if Peter Lindgren could Warp into other peoples videos dressed in his Combat gear as in his Forest videos, then take them back to Sweden as Hostages for a Nerf Gun war!
I would also love this 😁
Young up and coming RUclipsr 🤣🤣🤣🤣 a friend was about to give me his RSC2….I was going to take it and retire my Weebill S lol 😂 I am still going to do it because I don’t use a gimbal enough on fancy stuff…does it stabilize? Yes great then I am set. I agree with your thoughts Tom.
From what I know the RSC2 is absolutely awesome. Great gift to get!
@@tombuck He is a nice friend lol.....I he told me to borrow his 35mm 1.8 Sony lens and over 6 months later I still have it lol
Can you review the Blue Baby Bottle SL? 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
That's been on my list for a while! It always sounds great when I see it being used by others.
Running in the desert? Peter trying to kill himself? I hope you film that only once. Also, I really wish you had your 360 running while Peter was manning the camera in Long Beach. He must have been dying with all the puns.
As for the Ronin S, I have put so many hours on mine it is pleading with me to put it out to pasture. This Rs3 release is perfect timing.
The 360 would’ve been brilliant! And I think you’re like Peter in that the upgrade would totally be worth it for the kind of work you do 👍
YoU said it hold 6.6 pounds, should be 20 pounds for the RS3 Pro.
An AquaCadet?!
Yessir, since 2002!
Why am I watching this? Lol. I have a weebil s that is awesome yet full of cobwebs.
Nimble gimbals
Am I the only one who still use Zhiyun Crane (v2) in 2022 as a regular Stabilizer.
That doesn't mean I didn't want to upgrade, I just Broke AF. Ha ha ha..
If it works, it works 👍
i think ronin s more stable then rs3
I think a lot of it comes down to technique. Overall it's probably easier to get smoother shots with the RS3, but I'm more used to working with the original.
@@tombuckyes sir technically rs3 more advanced features then ronin s . But ronin s running smoothly in older firmware not with latest firmware.
;-)
Royally awesome... ship shape 🚢🛳 I hope the Queen Mum approves! 😂
Her and her corgis all approve I’m sure.